corporate security issues - Imagio General

Hello,
Hello Everyone,
I am very glad to be returning to a winmo phone, after having been forced to use blackberry for a while. I have used many windows phones in the past, so am sort of familiar with rom flashing and registry edits.
Just got an HTC imagio, and am using it with corporate exchange server, connected through VPN. I have a couple issues that I am hoping someone can help with. The corporate security policies block me from adding additional email accounts (such as gmail) to my inbox. If I add the gmail account before installing corp stuff, then the gmail account becomes 'locked' (can't send/receive mail). Any ideas about registry edits, or other changes, that would allow me to unlock the gmail account?
Another thing, the corporate security policy prohibits me from using wifi. Any ideas how to reactivate it?
I am looking for a registry editor that works well on the imagio, and would appreciate suggestions.
Thanks!

hey everyone,
I have been trying to find registry settings that may be associated with the 'email account lock'. If you have time, please verify whether your non-email-locked phones have the following registry settings:
\\registry\HKLM\software\microsfot\inbox\svc\hotmail\UserCannotCreate, decimal value=1
\\registry\HKLM\software\microsfot\inbox\svc\ActiveSync\UserCannotCreate, decimal value=1
If you guys do not have these keys, or values are set differently, please let me know!
thank you!!

dm396 said:
\\registry\HKLM\software\microsfot\inbox\svc\hotmail\UserCannotCreate, decimal value=1
\\registry\HKLM\software\microsfot\inbox\svc\ActiveSync\UserCannotCreate, decimal value=1
If you guys do not have these keys, or values are set differently, please let me know!
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Hey -
Well, I have both of those registry entries, exactly as you list them, and my phone is not locked in any way. Keep up the search!

Thanks for checking...

hey, I can install third party apps, so is anyone familiar with an email client app that would work well on Imagio? that would be a little clunky I realize, but would solve issues in the short term...

dm396 said:
hey, I can install third party apps, so is anyone familiar with an email client app that would work well on Imagio? that would be a little clunky I realize, but would solve issues in the short term...
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you could just check your email from a web browser. or setup your gmail to forward to your exchange account.

interesting. I just setup forwarding...which is not totally ideal, but pretty good. I do use the gmail web access on imagio internet explorer, but that is kind of sucky. I am hopeful about finding a client that works, or even better...a way to 'unlock' new accounts on the phone.

Didn't mean to post in this thread, moderators please delete.
Although I will comment and say thanks for identifying which registry keys to edit. My company issues a policy to lock the phone, and this helped to remove the policy requirements.

Related

Newbie XDA Mini

Hey all, and I'd like to say I have never seen a forum with so much info on it before....this place is great.
I have two questions regarding my new toy.
1) I read a thread on the site a day or so ago, but clever IE on my desktop has cleared my History so I can't see the pages I've visited - The page had a post from someone listing a whole host of registry hacks and which keys need adjusting etc to make the changes stick. If anyone knows of a thread with a list of all the hacks and the keys to change could you please link it here.
2) I have configured my Gmal account on my XDA and am able to connect and send/recieve ok however I have a slightly different question: I use a forwarded email address from my domain name which forwards my domain name email to my Gmail account, and then on Outlook on the desktop, I use the Reply Address feature to hide the Gmail address so that people see the domain address.
Is there anyway to do this on the built-in Outlook style email client on the device as I've looked about and can't see anything.
Many thanks for any help anyone can provide.
With regards to registry tweaks, the following won't be the exact page your looking for but it's very comprehensive and is regularly updated (so it will more than likely cover all the settings you saw)...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
Yep keitaro's link is good.
Include this one also http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard_Tweaks
and the big all tweaks topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38957
Brilliant - The 2nd one is the thread I was after.
Thanks very much

Free Exchange mail service with Outlook over HTTPS and ALIAS'S

No more free accounts, refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305612 for updated information if you want an account. Thanks.
DeniaL said:
I run an exchange server and I am welcoming pocketpc users that are in need of an exchange account to activesync with. This service also offers Direct Push for those of you that have have this on your PocketPC. As well as the ability to sync all of your contacts, calander events, and task wirelessly onto your Outlook desktop instantly.
Anyone that still needs a Exchange account, I can provide one for them. I will be providing up to 50 or so accounts for free, donations will be and are always appreciated. My constraint right now is how much hard drive space I have. If I can get enough donations for a bigger hard drive I would be able to give out many many more accounts. Also, my service will include Exchange over HTTPS as well if you want to use the server with Outlook on whatever computer you want to. I can provide these settings for people that want the service. Just PM me with the e-mail address you want. Domain is @getztek.com .
So if you like the service and feel that you can contribute, please send paypal payments to [email protected]. If you think you can donate in other ways, please send me an email!
Please submit the information in this format:
First Name:
Last Name or Initial:
E-Mail address requested:
Password:
Also, please give me at least 24 hours to set this up as it is a free service and I do have a job/life. Thanks!
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I will be happy to use your service, but I have two questions...
Does your service support sending email using another email adress (so that the receiver sees my primary email instead of the email with your domain)?
Does it require vpn to reach exchange server via desktop outlook?
I will be the most happiest person to use the Direct push service if get one.
Thanks in advance
--tux
tjmvdz said:
I will be happy to use your service, but I have two questions...
Does your service support sending email using another email adress (so that the receiver sees my primary email instead of the email with your domain)?
Does it require vpn to reach exchange server via desktop outlook?
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No it doesn't support sending e-mail using another e-mail address but I can setup an e-mail forward so that everything that comes in to your exchange e-mail box gets forwarded to your other e-mail account as well as staying in your exchange account.
It does not require VPN to use Outlook on your desktop.
You just have to setup Outlook to connect to the Exchange server using HTTPS. There is a guide here showing what you have to do to setup Outlook properly...
http://www.petri.co.il/configure_outlook_2003_to_use_rpc_over_http.htm
This is obviously for a different domain but the configuration is the same.
tux_tux said:
I will be the most happiest person to use the Direct push service if get one.
Thanks in advance
--tux
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Send me a PM with the info as asked in the topic.
Now I am able to sync all my stuff.
How to setup Direct push on wm5 for getztek
1. Download the root cert and copy to \My Documents\filename.cer
2. Start -> File Explorer -> \My Documents (execute filename.cer)
3. Start -> Setting -> System -> Certificates [root tab] and check for the same.
4. Do a soft reset.
5. Start -> Programs -> ActiveSync -> Menu Configure Server
a. Server address: mail.getztek.com
b. Tick on ssl connection
c. Username: name
d. Password: *******
e. Domain: getztek.com
f. Next -> Finish
g. Sync & Njoy
Thanks for Denial activating my account and helping me configuring the same.
--tux
no problem tux...enjoy the account.
CAL's
Don't you need to own a CAL for each user? The CAL's are around 40 dollars a person.
bumpity bump
HAHA
Arn't you the guy that asked if i could help setup your exchange server?
austindkelly said:
Arn't you the guy that asked if i could help setup your exchange server?
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I don't think so. I had asked for help setting up SSL on the server...but that's about all.
what version of exchange are u running
grinny11 said:
what version of exchange are u running
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Exchange 2003
Bumping the post because of alias's
DeniaL, may I ask what kind of Junk filter setup you use? In particular, does it add a Spam tag to the subject line and can filtering be turned off or otherwise adjusted by the end user? I currently heavily pre-screen my email before forwarding it into my not very good Hosted Exchange account (third one I am on...alas!)
I made a fairly lengthy post re some of the header issues coming out of Exchange accounts which trigger false postives. Won't repeat it all here, but my thoughts can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1146784#post1146784
I would be happy to donate, I don't need "free". Just want something a bit cooler and better than the hosted services I have used so far!
I do understand that you are developing this out right now and it is subject to available funds. But if possible, can you give me a rough ball park on the amount of storage you can offer? A PM would be fine if you prefer not to post that estimate here. Many thanks.
This is Exchange 2003 with the messaging service pack 2, right?
flamingcrumb said:
DeniaL, may I ask what kind of Junk filter setup you use? In particular, does it add a Spam tag to the subject line and can filtering be turned off or otherwise adjusted by the end user? I currently heavily pre-screen my email before forwarding it into my not very good Hosted Exchange account (third one I am on...alas!)
I made a fairly lengthy post re some of the header issues coming out of Exchange accounts which trigger false postives. Won't repeat it all here, but my thoughts can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1146784#post1146784
I would be happy to donate, I don't need "free". Just want something a bit cooler and better than the hosted services I have used so far!
I do understand that you are developing this out right now and it is subject to available funds. But if possible, can you give me a rough ball park on the amount of storage you can offer? A PM would be fine if you prefer not to post that estimate here. Many thanks.
This is Exchange 2003 with the messaging service pack 2, right?
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I am using Trend Micro's Antivirus/Antispam suite. I'm blanking on the exact name right now but it works very well. It doesn't add the "spam" tag, it just creates a folder in your outlook called "Spam." It moves any suspect e-mail into that folder. I rarely have an issue with false positives. Let me know if there is anything else I can do for you. How much storage would you need? If you could give me a ballpark, i'll just let you know if that if do-able or not.
Sounds good. But can the end user elect to turn off filtering to the Spam folder within the OWA Options/Rules if desired?
Also, have you seen the problem of legit mail sent from a Pocket PC through Exchange being falsely flagged as Junk when it arrives (unless the other person also uses Exchange)? This is a known and documented issue, but has not been addressed by any Exchange service I have used to date. It is an issue with the headers looking like forged Outlook Spam, plus it having the appearance of bulk mail, even though it's not.
Because of this I only use Exchange to receive forwarded mail for Direct Push. Never to send. I hope that can change some day!
Storage-wise I currently have a commercially hosted Exchange acount with 1GB. I only use part of it, but it does leaves room to archive and grow. So, 500MB to a 1GB would be ideal.
TIA
flamingcrumb said:
Sounds good. But can the end user elect to turn off filtering to the Spam folder within the OWA Options/Rules if desired?
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Yes, I can disable this.
Also, have you seen the problem of legit mail sent from a Pocket PC through Exchange being falsely flagged as Junk when it arrives (unless the other person also uses Exchange)?
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No I have not heard of this issue. I send people e-mail ALL the time EVERY day and have never had e-mail incorrectly flagged as spam. I'm not denying that it is indeed an issue, but I have not experienced it.
Storage-wise I currently have a commercially hosted Exchange acount with 1GB. I only use part of it, but it does leaves room to archive and grow. So, 500MB to a 1GB would be ideal.
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That's not a problem.
Thanks! Sounds like it is a sys admin thing (not a user OWA setting). Correct?
Got a quick question I am going to PM you. Hope that is OK.
Many thanks to DeniaL for helping me pinpoint/confirm a weird interaction between Exchange and another mailserver I use. (This was a generalized thing and not specific to DeniaL's server).
Just wanted to drop in a quick plug for DeniaL, saying this is a nice person who knows the tech stuff and seems very straight up.
This is a very kind offer for some free Exchange accounts. Jump on it while the offer stands ...and though DeniaL does not require it, please, please do make a donation for your account. It's not only basic decency, it might even mean the service can be sustained and/or expanded.
Personally, I can afford (and really need) a commericial account with a formal support channel. Plus I don't want to be taking a slot from someone else who may really need a free service.
But, Hey Denial. if you do ever choose to offer a commerical hosted Exchange service, please let me know! I would be happy to pay for your expertise!

Question about Email forwarding

So I work for a Company and we use email pretty regularly to communicate.
I am a store manager and the company is really **** about letting us set up to recieve emails to our phones. We use Microsoft outlook and it is an intranet bassed email service (I cant email my store or other stores from an outside email, it has to be from a store location). I have tried to creat a rule to have them forwarded but they dont forward.
I figured this is were some of the greatest and able bodies are, anybody have a solution? I'm just trying to get the stores email forwarded to my gmail account so I dont miss stuff on my days off. Anybody have any ideas??
Hope this is the correct forum for this
Well if your using outlook at your store, why don't you create a new account in your pocket outlook with your account info. You can find all of it in your settings, then set it to recieve at certain times only.
OR
There is an option to forward an email to an account once recieved. I'm using Outlook '07 so my setup may be a bit different but most outlook versions should have the same options. If you still can't find the rule setup for it just let me know.
mrmikemcguire said:
So I work for a Company and we use email pretty regularly to communicate.
I am a store manager and the company is really **** about letting us set up to recieve emails to our phones. We use Microsoft outlook and it is an intranet bassed email service (I cant email my store or other stores from an outside email, it has to be from a store location). I have tried to creat a rule to have them forwarded but they dont forward.
I figured this is were some of the greatest and able bodies are, anybody have a solution? I'm just trying to get the stores email forwarded to my gmail account so I dont miss stuff on my days off. Anybody have any ideas??
Hope this is the correct forum for this
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Well, there are a few things that come to mind.....
I am a District Manager for a restaurant chain so my first response is to say enjoy our time off
Second, I will probably sound like a jerk but there are reasons that companies limit email access to the physical location of a business, it is much more secure.
Knowing all of that, I personally forward all of my work mail to gmail and use the IMAP access so I do not have to remember if I have checked it or not. I generally get between 30-60 emails a day.
Your email may not be able to be forwarded due to how it is set up. I worked at a place where we did that and the email server we used would not allow an email from the units to be sent to any other domain other than our internal one.
My last thought it that if you are unable to find the email server settings on your own and set your email program on your phone up then you probably should not be messing with it. They are pretty easy to find but you do open your work network up to potential infection of malware or a virus. I know I would get pissed if one of my managers did something like that and caused us to have issues. Beware that they can and do track which IP addresses connect to the email server though.
-asb
Thanks guys,
I appreciate the help. I have put a rule in outlook to forward them to my gmail but it doesnt work.
Believe me, i understand the reason for limiting the location to the stores for email access. I do know that its definately possible because a couple area managers and my DM have it to their phone. I'm honestly not trying to deceitful, and I do enjoy my time off, but I have issues where i dont get important emails so i just wanted to forward them..
I didnt think about setting it up in the phone, i'm going to look into that. Where would i find the settings at in outlook? I know that I using it through my INTRANET and i use outlook through web access, so there isnt a "tools" tab that i can go into to get settings.
I'm going to play around with it.
Thanks again
Well.. some thoughts about the access...
If you you use web access then you know the server address already.
I would start off using the url as the pop3 access.
I'm replying from my phone but I will put up a mini guide later.
-asb
mrmikemcguire said:
Thanks guys,
I appreciate the help. I have put a rule in outlook to forward them to my gmail but it doesnt work.
Believe me, i understand the reason for limiting the location to the stores for email access. I do know that its definately possible because a couple area managers and my DM have it to their phone. I'm honestly not trying to deceitful, and I do enjoy my time off, but I have issues where i dont get important emails so i just wanted to forward them..
I didnt think about setting it up in the phone, i'm going to look into that. Where would i find the settings at in outlook? I know that I using it through my INTRANET and i use outlook through web access, so there isnt a "tools" tab that i can go into to get settings.
I'm going to play around with it.
Thanks again
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Can you create and send a new email to the Gmail account you are trying to forward these messages to? If you cannot then you must first find out if your network is blocking Gmail or if it is a routing issue. If you can successfully send an email to the Gmail account then the problem is merely in the settings of outlook (insert any email client here).
Almost always the outlook application must remain running for the rules to be honored. Creating and managing rules can be tricky. Make sure there are no stop processing rules entries prior to the forward all email rule you created. Also make sure there is not a stop rule in the forwarding rule or any after it will fail as well.
Ok, you said that you use outlook web access to check your email in your location. I would take a look at the url in the address bar. That will most likely be your access point that you will use later.
If you are on an intranet though you might be out of luck.
For example, one company I worked for had things set up like this:
Intranet with everyone having an ip address of 10.10.10.***.
We had an internal DNS server to resolve our intranet based web site and our email server.
Our email server was 10.10.10.101
Our internal web server was 10.10.10.102
Now, for outside access, we had an external IP that was something like 12.225.125.188.
If you only access your email from on the intranet (not INTERNET) then you need to find out the external IP address. You might be able to get it from a higher up but most likely you will be shot down.
Now, for simplicity sake, how about either letting the people at your location check email and call you if something major is going on email wise or just call them a few times each day?
Without the magic numbers (external IP) you won't be able to get access no matter what you try. There is also the remote possibility that the higher ups with access on their phones are using blackberries and the service associated with that or a VPN solution to get on the work intranet.
With out physically looking at the numbers and the set up it would be hard to figure out all of the details so my post is just full of WAG (wild ass guesses).
Just to finish it up, think about this...
Deliberately trying to circumvent your networks protections even accessing email against your companies policies can put you in not only work related trouble but also legal trouble.
-asb
Appreciate the help. I figured if the process wasnt to intracate I would set it up. Appears that it's more trouble than what it's worth.

Syncing With Two Exchange Servers

Guys,
I have two exchange servers accounts and I do need to sync both accounts (emails, calendar, notes etc), however I just can't do it.
Through the ActiveSync I just can't create a new server.
Then I tryed to simply create a new account using the "mail setup", but the message I receive is "account already exists. Only one Exchange account can be configured".
Well, since I do not trust that much on Microsoft I Googled this subject and found the below (I also found references to this "solution" here at XDA):
"... to sync two exchange servers, put this in the device's registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\EnableNonLocalCrossPollination]= (DWORD) 1
This key will most probably be there already, but if it is, its value will be 0. If so, change it to 1.
Soft reset, then, setup activesync ON THE DEVICE (If you try setting up on the PC, it will still fail).
I'm now syncing an Exchange connected PC with with another Exchange Server directly - work like a CHARM.
(thanks to Chris de Herrera for the registry key hint)".
I did the registry's modification but nothing changed. I'm still not being able to sync with to different exchange servers account.
Have you guys faced this issue? Any idea on how to solve it?
Regards!
Hi!
I tried and faced the same result as you. Unfortunately I have no idea how to solve this, but I would desperately need the function too!
Cheers
Guys,
Any idea?
This issue has been discussed a long time over the web and there is no secure answer.
The "solution" I have found, at least for me, do not work. I have tryed and nothing.
Am I doing something wrong with respect to the mentioned "solution" or it really doesn't work? Is there any other way to make the simultaneously syncing feasible?
Regards!
No ideas on how to make two exchange servers acounts working on the HD?
No one? No shortcut? No detour?
I am quite sure this is not possible as the same with a windows PC!
Its possible
I synced with two exchange servers for a while. Buts its only possible if you use activesync by usb for your second exchange.
And how have you did it, mate?
BlueTec said:
I synced with two exchange servers for a while. Buts its only possible if you use activesync by usb for your second exchange.
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well, there is a leak news state that wm7 can sync with 2+ exchange servers
also extensive customized folders.
this is great new feature.
in wm6.1, impossible.
Thanks John! Finally a peremptory answer
I was just wondering if it was possible with wm 6.1, especially after the information I have obtained (as per my first post here).
So, let's wait for wm 7.
Regards!

Problems setting up my Hotmail account.

I recently updated my ROM from o2 stock 1.43 to stock 1.72. Since then I've been unable to set-up my Hotmail account. This has been doing my head in for a few days now, I've searched the forum but can't find anything that's relevant.
Here's my problem step by step: I select Add mail account then other, as Hotmail isn't listed. I then enter my e-mail address & password and click next. What happens next has never happened before when I've tried to set my hotmail account up from within a phone and has left me bewildered??
My Opera 10 browser now launches and takes me to the online Hotmail website??? WTF!!! After exiting the opera browser, I return back to the add mail account screen and I'm promptly back at square one?
Any help/ advice would be much appreciated.
Thx.
can you not input the settings for smtp, imap, pop3 etc manually???? im not sure which hotmail uses hence why i mentioned them all.
There is a few threads about hotmail mate
I wouldn't bother setting it though Sense...
Open Windows live and do it from there......
If you must then you will need mail.live.com. that is they worked for me the last time I set it though Sense...
I do have one question for HTC... Why the F**k are you selling a windows device that doesn't have the hotmail setting in Sense???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Oh you may want to update your version of Windows Live from the Marketplace
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can you not input the settings for smtp, imap, pop3 etc manually???? im not sure which hotmail uses hence why i mentioned them all.
There is a few threads about hotmail mate
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Thx for the reply.
I've tried to input the settings manually but after entering my e-mail address, password and clicking manual set-up the same thing happens i.e opera browser fires up and takes me to the web based Hotmail???
give Neville.Holland reply a go, I no that works
Neville.Holland said:
I wouldn't bother setting it though Sense...
Open Windows live and do it from there......
If you must then you will need mail.live.com. that is they worked for me the last time I set it though Sense...
I do have one question for HTC... Why the F**k are you selling a windows device that doesn't have the hotmail setting in Sense???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Oh you may want to update your version of Windows Live from the Marketplace
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Thx for the reply.
I'm not even given the opportunity to enter any settings manually as soon as I've entered my address and password and either clicked manual setup or the next button, my opera browser launches and takes me to the web based hotmail.
I totally agree with you that the Hotmail setting should be on the phone.
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give Neville.Holland reply a go, I no that works
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But I've setup my Hotmail account previously on this phone (HD2) via the Add Mail Account screen and never had any problems up until now.
Thanks for the suggestion tho', I may need to try that.
Can anyone help with this please? It's seriously doing my head in!
Me too, but I've fixed it
Hi,
I had the same problem when updating OS, what previously was a simple task became impossible, and as for taking me to the website, WTF barely covers it!
The answer is in the post from Neville.Holland, simply re-install 'Windows Live' from Marketplace and obey all the instructions, once the 'old WL' is removed and the phone restarts you'll find 'hotmail' is there in your list of email accounts as it was before...
Hooray
when inputing the email address at the start, just misspell it (notmail.con for instance) which prevents the wizard recognizing it. fill in all the rest of the details manually, then save it, then edit it and correct the address.
That's a weird problem, but sam's suggestion should definitely work. If not give provisioning a try. Just look around XDA and you'll figure it out.
Budski GB said:
Hi,
I had the same problem when updating OS, what previously was a simple task became impossible, and as for taking me to the website, WTF barely covers it!
The answer is in the post from Neville.Holland, simply re-install 'Windows Live' from Marketplace and obey all the instructions, once the 'old WL' is removed and the phone restarts you'll find 'hotmail' is there in your list of email accounts as it was before...
Hooray
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thats the right answer
i had the same problem mine was a hotmail.co.uk address. so i entered it in sense as hotmail.com it then took me to the live log in screen where i changed it to hotmail.co.uk it then saved that and synced all my emails and left them all working fine on sense.
Manual Hotmail Email Setup
samsamuel is right on! Hope I'm not raising the dead post here, just thought I can up some details for reference on manually setting up a hotmail email account as lots of light roms are without the windows live package (it's not quite a small install and it needs to reside on the device) and I've read through and met some probs on my own when installing the cabs...
So as samsamuel said, just mistype the "@hotmail.com" part when you set up your hotmail account manually in Messages. You'll skip the windows live wizard (which I don't even have installed anymore). Here are the settings that worked for me (diamond on wm 6.5):
Incoming mail server: pop3.live.com:995
Account type: pop3
Outgoing (smtp) mail server: smtp.live.com:25
CHECKED "outgoing server requires authentication"
CHECKED "use the same user name and password for sending e-mail"
Under "advance server settings": CHECK BOTH "require SSL for Incoming AND Outgoing email"
After all that, right before it starts to sync, just stop send/receive and go back to the account setting and fix the mistyped "@hotmail.com" earlier.
That's what worked for me; incoming and outgoing tested. And I'm not sure about this, but for people who want to sync more than the 50 email limit (when you setup via windows live), you might be able to do it by setting the period of download to "from the past 30 days" or I guess "all messages". I don't have that many emails as I don't use hotmail that much so you better try it out if you're interested (it might take some time to sync though if you have lots of emails... so 3g or wifi it).
thanks for the help, samsamuel!

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