While playing with my HD2 I discovered a workaround for the SMS thread loading time/tap to compose delay. This is VERY bodge-job, but also goes to prove that the HD2 is MORE than capable of loading long conversations quickly, but there's just a coding error on HTC's behalf.
Firstly, you might want to time how long it takes you to open a long thread normally. With one of my contacts I get a whopping 21 seconds.
Ok so here's the simple workaround:
Open up your SMS thread
Straight away, hit the send key/button
It should ask you if you're sure you want to send a blank message - wait half a second or so (dependant on your thread size), then press "No"
Tadaaa! Your thread should be FULLY loaded, and you can begin typing
If you don't wait half a second or so before pressing no, it seems to give a graphical glitch which keeps the SMS slider faded for a little while and doesn't allow you to tap to compose as quickly.
My guess is that by fading out the SMS thread with the confirmation dialogue, you are essentially disabling the graphical loading bar/transition of messages into the thread, and as a result, the loading time is FAR quicker.
I think it goes to prove that the problem is a GUI coding error.
Anyway, I hope this helps others until HTC get off their backsides and fix this.
Thanks.
The same can be achieved by clicking on one of the loaded messages in the thread so that a menu pops up..then cancel out of it.
Alternatively, when on the HTC Sense message tab, click ALL Messages and just open the message you want to reply to.
Russinating said:
While playing with my HD2 I discovered a workaround for the SMS thread loading time/tap to compose delay. This is VERY bodge-job, but also goes to prove that the HD2 is MORE than capable of loading long conversations quickly, but there's just a coding error on HTC's behalf.
Firstly, you might want to time how long it takes you to open a long thread normally. With one of my contacts I get a whopping 21 seconds.
Ok so here's the simple workaround:
Open up your SMS thread
Straight away, hit the send key/button
It should ask you if you're sure you want to send a blank message - wait half a second or so (dependant on your thread size), then press "No"
Tadaaa! Your thread should be FULLY loaded, and you can begin typing
If you don't wait half a second or so before pressing no, it seems to give a graphical glitch which keeps the SMS slider faded for a little while and doesn't allow you to tap to compose as quickly.
My guess is that by fading out the SMS thread with the confirmation dialogue, you are essentially disabling the graphical loading bar/transition of messages into the thread, and as a result, the loading time is FAR quicker.
I think it goes to prove that the problem is a GUI coding error.
Anyway, I hope this helps others until HTC get off their backsides and fix this.
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Thanks cool method
Its also mentioned in tip 57 in the hints and tips thread.
Whenever I am sending an sms to someone, the previous message in the thread seems to highlight black automatically and typing seems to stop working until I press back in to the text box, the keyboard however is still visible when it happens.
Seems to be happening every time I send an sms.
Not a big deal but it does get annoying.
Anyone experienced this issue?
Yes me to have this bug!!
I'm so tired of this crapy hotfixes that does not fix any hot things at all.
Now there's a new SMS hotfix that should be applyable on my device accordning the homepage, but nah.... not for my device it says when i'm trying to apply it.
elkyelky said:
Whenever I am sending an sms to someone, the previous message in the thread seems to highlight black automatically and typing seems to stop working until I press back in to the text box, the keyboard however is still visible when it happens.
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I believe everybody experiences this issue, which seems to a feature and not a bug. The fact is that the SMS selected is the one you just tapped in the SMS tab. Apparently it is meant to be this way, so you can fully read the SMS before answering... Just think if an SMS is really loooonnngg and exceeds what can be shown in the sense interface, you'll have the opportunity to see the full SMS before answering. The real problem, though, is that the SMS is only selected once all SMS are loaded, which can be a very long process, if you have more than 50 SMS with the same person. Most of the time, you already began writing a new SMS, so it "disturbs" the process.
ToddeSwe said:
I'm so tired of this crapy hotfixes that does not fix any hot things at all.
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Well, apparently, the 1.66 ROM or the latest SMS hotfix does fix the not sent SMS problem and the laggy SMS loading... Those were major issues, this one is just a not very good "feature" that, I believe, we'll be able to deactivate some way. Am I wrong?
rzasharp said:
I believe everybody experiences this issue, which seems to a feature and not a bug. The fact is that the SMS selected is the one you just tapped in the SMS tab. Apparently it is meant to be this way, so you can fully read the SMS before answering... Just think if an SMS is really loooonnngg and exceeds what can be shown in the sense interface, you'll have the opportunity to see the full SMS before answering. The real problem, though, is that the SMS is only selected once all SMS are loaded, which can be a very long process, if you have more than 50 SMS with the same person. Most of the time, you already began writing a new SMS, so it "disturbs" the process.
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Yes your right. I just tried selecting an older SMS on the SMS tab and it has just scrolled up the thread and highlighted it once all of the messages were loaded.
That is an annoying feature in my opinion. Any known way of disabling it?
right, htc call this a feature...lol
it is the first sms which is loaded, so i too dont know why it cant be highlighted first before loading the complete thread.... then i could call this a feature too.
to avoid it, dont press on the sms in sms tab, but press inbox and select the thread you want to read or reply...
I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
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I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
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No it isn't doing that for me.
wotsreallygood said:
I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
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ive read some posts asking for this, but why would someone write 12# in a sms?
even if this "bug" is present, i will never face it...
Bimme said:
ive read some posts asking for this, but why would someone write 12# in a sms?
even if this "bug" is present, i will never face it...
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He is talking about the button labelled '12#' which takes you to the numbers and other characters.
lol
ok my fault, sry for this...
the '12#' bug only occurs (for me) if you are replying to a text, have XT9 on and press the '12#' key when the predictive row is onscreen offering alternative words - then when the '12#' key is pressed the cursor jumps to the start of the box.
this is happening on my device, i can understand how this can be annoying but is a non issue for me.
hi,
on the '#12' thing, i can confirm what fray_bentos wrote, but because im not using t9 i never faced this 'bug'.
on the issue that after reading all sms the last one is selected even if you already started typing, i think that is a good example why one should not try to stop complainers the quick way. first a lot of people complain about that they have to wait for all sms (in thread) to be read by the system, before they can start answering. so htc try to do somthing on it and release a quick hotfix, not testing it enough (maybe because the time to release is to short). and now people complaining about the fact that they are interupted in typing a message.
i can live with it (until the next 'hopefully better tested' fix is comming) because i find out that you can still continue to type your message, the focus of your input window is not changing. simply continue typing, and after finish touch the input window once, all your text will appear than at once.
regards mad
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Well, apparently, the 1.66 ROM or the latest SMS hotfix does fix the not sent SMS problem and the laggy SMS loading... Those were major issues, this one is just a not very good "feature" that, I believe, we'll be able to deactivate some way. Am I wrong?
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I have never had the problem with sms not send or stuck in out box.
But the sms history loading fix is to me a hide away fix that realy don't fix the problem, when you have a bunch of sms in history it's impossible to type a sms while this history is loading even though you now can get the keybord up and showing it self You can't use it until the history is loaded, because the device is to slow to type on while it does.
I had this in 1.48 too. It's not new but is very annoying.
fray_bentos said:
the '12#' bug only occurs (for me) if you are replying to a text, have XT9 on and press the '12#' key when the predictive row is onscreen offering alternative words - then when the '12#' key is pressed the cursor jumps to the start of the box.
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happens to me every time
I also have both these problems. It selects a message halfway through me typing which is soooo annoying! I also can repeat the problem with 12# though i dont use XT9 so its not a big deal for me. The first problem is though. Its turning into a real joke that after several rom updates and hotfixs they still haven't got SMS working properly.
This is the best gadget I have ever owned but probably the worst phone lol
bzdemes said:
I also have both these problems. It selects a message halfway through me typing which is soooo annoying! I also can repeat the problem with 12# though i dont use XT9 so its not a big deal for me. The first problem is though. Its turning into a real joke that after several rom updates and hotfixs they still haven't got SMS working properly.
This is the best gadget I have ever owned but probably the worst phone lol
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I agree.
It'll probably be version 5.22 before these issues are finally resolved. Until then, we're nothing more than a large group of beta testers.
Thanks for the replies.
I wonder when they will get it right. Maybe on the 3.22 ROM
It's hard for me to understand how all these issues can keep on being in the sms software. Isn't anyone at HTC using their own phone? If they do it shouldn't take too long to get annoyed of the software and wan't to change it a little...
Okay so I just have a few general questions. I have searched around. Spent a lot of the past few days looking around. But just some general questions.
1) Is there anyway to make the start menu anything sort of organized? I just don't know what to do with that thing. It's getting very full, lol.
2) I have read plenty of stuff on different keyboards. I know there's the swype keyboard and a few others I guess.
a) But is there anyone who's made a keyboard, or anything, to just have the regular keyboard without the arrows, lol?
b) Is there any better way to get to specific parts of text without the arrows? Like the iPhone Magnifying glass or something?
3) People all the time say that they can pretty much find an app for anything. Well I'm not a business professional. I have O-Market installed. But are there any other places to look for just some cool apps and time killers?
Edit (4) Umm, is there anything to be done for messaging. I've done some reg tweaks and stuff, but what bothers me is when I click on a new message in the messaging tab (the one where you can scroll through your 25 most recent messages) and I HATE how I've either got to start typing and then get interrupted when it selects the message I clicked on, or I have to wait for it to select the message and then start typing...
Any way to make it NOT select the message, lol? I already know what message I'm responding too dang it, lol.
Hopefully I can get some answers, or links to answers for these. Thanks a lot guys .
4) You can flash your ROM to Energy ROM and it'll eliminate that problem.
I keep going back to Energy after experimental flashing with other ROM, but I go back to Energy for that reason alone.
1) Start Menu is something I don't really use, ever.
Cookie's Home Tab allows you to have more than 1 apps panel, up to 5 panels, I think.
I have 3 4x4 panel tabs I can just access from home screen, nearly every program/contacts I use are on it.
Awesome. If I could get any responses to the other questions that would be great .
But thank you very much. I was looking at Energy, I will probably flash to that. I have CHT right now, so I might have to think about some more tab pages.
Do all roms do that with messaging?
Anytime i try to type a text using swype it says type to add text but when i tap the screen or start typing no words show up. The cursor normally blinks to let you know you can type but my cursor just stays on the screen an i cant input anything for a good 15 seconds. If i try to hand to take the keyboard off the screen it takes even longer for the keyboard to start performing like it is suppose to. Sometimes i just start typing and i can type a whole sentence and the words will come up after im done typing and other times it wont come up. I text faster and im more accurate with swype than the full qwerty keyboard so i dont wanna give up on it but it is a nuisance having to wait so long just to type a text. Does this happen to anybody else and is there a way to tweak it to perform like normal.
It usually happens when you have a long string of text messages. You will see the scroll bar on the right growing smaller as its "catching up" to where you are in the str4ing of text messages. This is the case with mine, so usually when i get around 50-60 texts from one person i will delete the thread so that i dont have to play the waiting game. Not sure of any other way around it that i have come across.
You can always have your text messages backed up on MS MyPhone and then archive older messages on the website. Messages archived on the site will be deleted on the phone.
ttownfeen said:
You always have your text messages backed up on MS MyPhone and then archive older messages on the website. Messages archived on the site will be deleted on the phone.
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T-Town, WA?
donkeypunch85 said:
T-Town, WA?
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Close...well, not really AL
oh ok thanks for the replies. The HD2 is by far the best WinMo phone I have ever had.
Hopefully this hasn't been noted already. I use the stock messaging widget and click on it to quick-view my new texts, then hit reply to enter the "quick-text" which pre-fills in the recipient.
The problem I'm having is that when I use Swype as the input method in this box, it seems to lag and sometimes puts spaces in the wrong places, or punctuation before a word (as opposed to after). It appears that what's happening is that I'll 'swype' a word, it will bring up the selection list, and I'll hit a period. Normally this would insert the first-selected word and then a period, but in the quick-text, it appears to enter the period before auto-selecting the word from the list. This also happens where it will type the first letter of a word, put a space, then the rest of the word combined with the following word. For example "how a reyou" shows up often. The overall response time of using Swype as input for this seems slow and laggy.
I'm just curious if anyone else has encountered this or if there's a fix.
I think I've seen a screenshot of someone's phone trying to type in Skype in the stock Moto messaging widget and having a ton of gibberish in the input box, so I don't think it's just your phone.
I guess I'm kinda glad about that. Hopefully they fix it. I've just been trying to avoid using it, but it's so convenient.
When I first started using swype I was having all kinds of spaces and lag. Now that I'm running launcher pro everything is running smooth and I haven't had any lag problems. I also messed with some of the settings for swype.
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