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Hi all,
again, i dont like starting new threads, but I havent found anything about this keyboard bug im experiencing
I'm on 1.48.405.2 (71294)
So i'm SMS-ing with XT9 on and word completion:
If im typing away and end something with a QUESTION, like
"What are you doing today?"
I normally click the "12#" to change to symbol to select the question mark "?"
BUT i noticed EVERY SINGLE TIME when there is a WORD COMPLETION SUGGESTION hovering over the word and you CLICK "12#", the cursor will POP UP to the line ABOVE! (if i've gone past 1 line of text)
A word completion suggestion popup must be there before clicking "12#" for the cursor to pop up. But this is pretty basic for anyone typing a question.
this is SO annoying when i'm trynig to type fast and add a "?", cause then the cursor keeps popping up and screwing up my message...
Also another bug i noticed is when I receive a SMS, and in HTC Message i click on the message to go to Windows messaging..
Sometimes when i start to type (and it clearly says its oN XT9), no word completion pops up!
It's very intermittent, but the XT9 will be selected but just not work...
Anyone else experiecne this?
And better yet, does ANYONE HAVE A SOLUTION/REGISTRY TWEAK?
That cursor popping up when wanting to type a symbol is super annoying...
I installed the Less sensitivity cab but im not sure if that caused this?
Why don't you just hold down the 'k' key till the question mark pops up?
I'm facing the second problem of yours too. Sometimes the T9 is 'on' but it is not functioning. This is really annoying. I have to close the message go to home screen and come back into the message again to get it working.
I've been getting the Xt9 thing too at random times. Although I never goto the other symbols keyboard to do the '?'.
thanks for the replies guys
least i know im not the only one
yeah..i COULD hold the "k" to get the "?" ...i guess i can do that from now on.
But i find the 2 clicks is faster than holding the K...maybe its just me
Anyways, hopefully HTC is aware of this so they fix this..
The keyboard is used all the time so this is a pretty annoying thing to see
has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
My keyboard annoyances are accidentally turning off XT9 modemany times when trying to press the A key. Why did they have to put the XT9/ABC key right under the A key?
Also I get the XT9 turning off bug too from time to time even though it is turned on.
unque1 said:
has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
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I get this problem sometimes. Its bloody annoying!
I usually go to menu>quick text then press back and usually that sorts it.
Hope they find a permanent fix to stop it happening though!!
unque1 said:
has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
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Yeah i get that one too. It's really REALLY annoying...
I am experiencing both of these issues too, very annoying!
unque1 said:
has anyone had the issue of replying to a text and it just comes out as numbers ??? you then have to go into the text option Turn on Turn off an option then press done and then letters will appear ?
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I have the same problem sometimes. I uses the Phonepad and sometimes it will only type numbers.
I have talked to HTC (danish) and they will try to look at it.
Sometimes the XT9 doesnt show words at all. Ive got those two problems
Its a joke man i can believe theres so much issue with there sms functions
- im a Texter and this isnt good - please keep me updated as whatever they send you im going to forward to HTC uk!
These faults need to be bombarded over to HTC for a imminent fix !
WHAT HAPPENED TO THERE TESTER ????
I have reported this to HTC support, but didn't hear anything back, in fact I didn't get an auto-responder either so I hope they got my email.
i have same problem .....
when a message comes i reply key pad types ok
but when again message come i reply key pad starts typing digits
problem is with phone pad and compact qwery pad ......
i have mailed HTc via support
but have not got a response yet .?
I also experience that sometimes the XT9 doesnt work even though it is marked as "on". Also, Im not able to add new words to T9.
Any news about the problem. Any solutions???
Whenever I am sending an sms to someone, the previous message in the thread seems to highlight black automatically and typing seems to stop working until I press back in to the text box, the keyboard however is still visible when it happens.
Seems to be happening every time I send an sms.
Not a big deal but it does get annoying.
Anyone experienced this issue?
Yes me to have this bug!!
I'm so tired of this crapy hotfixes that does not fix any hot things at all.
Now there's a new SMS hotfix that should be applyable on my device accordning the homepage, but nah.... not for my device it says when i'm trying to apply it.
elkyelky said:
Whenever I am sending an sms to someone, the previous message in the thread seems to highlight black automatically and typing seems to stop working until I press back in to the text box, the keyboard however is still visible when it happens.
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I believe everybody experiences this issue, which seems to a feature and not a bug. The fact is that the SMS selected is the one you just tapped in the SMS tab. Apparently it is meant to be this way, so you can fully read the SMS before answering... Just think if an SMS is really loooonnngg and exceeds what can be shown in the sense interface, you'll have the opportunity to see the full SMS before answering. The real problem, though, is that the SMS is only selected once all SMS are loaded, which can be a very long process, if you have more than 50 SMS with the same person. Most of the time, you already began writing a new SMS, so it "disturbs" the process.
ToddeSwe said:
I'm so tired of this crapy hotfixes that does not fix any hot things at all.
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Well, apparently, the 1.66 ROM or the latest SMS hotfix does fix the not sent SMS problem and the laggy SMS loading... Those were major issues, this one is just a not very good "feature" that, I believe, we'll be able to deactivate some way. Am I wrong?
rzasharp said:
I believe everybody experiences this issue, which seems to a feature and not a bug. The fact is that the SMS selected is the one you just tapped in the SMS tab. Apparently it is meant to be this way, so you can fully read the SMS before answering... Just think if an SMS is really loooonnngg and exceeds what can be shown in the sense interface, you'll have the opportunity to see the full SMS before answering. The real problem, though, is that the SMS is only selected once all SMS are loaded, which can be a very long process, if you have more than 50 SMS with the same person. Most of the time, you already began writing a new SMS, so it "disturbs" the process.
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Yes your right. I just tried selecting an older SMS on the SMS tab and it has just scrolled up the thread and highlighted it once all of the messages were loaded.
That is an annoying feature in my opinion. Any known way of disabling it?
right, htc call this a feature...lol
it is the first sms which is loaded, so i too dont know why it cant be highlighted first before loading the complete thread.... then i could call this a feature too.
to avoid it, dont press on the sms in sms tab, but press inbox and select the thread you want to read or reply...
I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
wotsreallygood said:
I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
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No it isn't doing that for me.
wotsreallygood said:
I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
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ive read some posts asking for this, but why would someone write 12# in a sms?
even if this "bug" is present, i will never face it...
Bimme said:
ive read some posts asking for this, but why would someone write 12# in a sms?
even if this "bug" is present, i will never face it...
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He is talking about the button labelled '12#' which takes you to the numbers and other characters.
lol
ok my fault, sry for this...
the '12#' bug only occurs (for me) if you are replying to a text, have XT9 on and press the '12#' key when the predictive row is onscreen offering alternative words - then when the '12#' key is pressed the cursor jumps to the start of the box.
this is happening on my device, i can understand how this can be annoying but is a non issue for me.
hi,
on the '#12' thing, i can confirm what fray_bentos wrote, but because im not using t9 i never faced this 'bug'.
on the issue that after reading all sms the last one is selected even if you already started typing, i think that is a good example why one should not try to stop complainers the quick way. first a lot of people complain about that they have to wait for all sms (in thread) to be read by the system, before they can start answering. so htc try to do somthing on it and release a quick hotfix, not testing it enough (maybe because the time to release is to short). and now people complaining about the fact that they are interupted in typing a message.
i can live with it (until the next 'hopefully better tested' fix is comming) because i find out that you can still continue to type your message, the focus of your input window is not changing. simply continue typing, and after finish touch the input window once, all your text will appear than at once.
regards mad
rzasharp said:
Well, apparently, the 1.66 ROM or the latest SMS hotfix does fix the not sent SMS problem and the laggy SMS loading... Those were major issues, this one is just a not very good "feature" that, I believe, we'll be able to deactivate some way. Am I wrong?
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I have never had the problem with sms not send or stuck in out box.
But the sms history loading fix is to me a hide away fix that realy don't fix the problem, when you have a bunch of sms in history it's impossible to type a sms while this history is loading even though you now can get the keybord up and showing it self You can't use it until the history is loaded, because the device is to slow to type on while it does.
I had this in 1.48 too. It's not new but is very annoying.
fray_bentos said:
the '12#' bug only occurs (for me) if you are replying to a text, have XT9 on and press the '12#' key when the predictive row is onscreen offering alternative words - then when the '12#' key is pressed the cursor jumps to the start of the box.
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happens to me every time
I also have both these problems. It selects a message halfway through me typing which is soooo annoying! I also can repeat the problem with 12# though i dont use XT9 so its not a big deal for me. The first problem is though. Its turning into a real joke that after several rom updates and hotfixs they still haven't got SMS working properly.
This is the best gadget I have ever owned but probably the worst phone lol
bzdemes said:
I also have both these problems. It selects a message halfway through me typing which is soooo annoying! I also can repeat the problem with 12# though i dont use XT9 so its not a big deal for me. The first problem is though. Its turning into a real joke that after several rom updates and hotfixs they still haven't got SMS working properly.
This is the best gadget I have ever owned but probably the worst phone lol
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I agree.
It'll probably be version 5.22 before these issues are finally resolved. Until then, we're nothing more than a large group of beta testers.
Thanks for the replies.
I wonder when they will get it right. Maybe on the 3.22 ROM
It's hard for me to understand how all these issues can keep on being in the sms software. Isn't anyone at HTC using their own phone? If they do it shouldn't take too long to get annoyed of the software and wan't to change it a little...
Every time I sent a text, when I tap on the button 12# to use the signs and numbers, the cursor automatically dislocate to the beginning of the message. This is really annoying and mess up the texting process. Does anyone have the same problem? is there a fix for this?
please help... Many thanks.
Confirmed
A workaround is to make sure there is a 'space' after your text before selecting 12#. Not sure how viable that is for you.
I have noticed the first time you select 12# all is fine.
However after additional texting, reselecting 12# produces your issue!
You can aslo easily click at the end of your text and you will still be in the numeric keyboard. Of course you can also stay in the default text keyboard and hold down the 'q' key to get to number '1', w for 2 etc.
niteowl360 said:
A workaround is to make sure there is a 'space' after your text before selecting 12#. Not sure how viable that is for you.
I have noticed the first time you select 12# all is fine.
However after additional texting, reselecting 12# produces your issue!
You can aslo easily click at the end of your text and you will still be in the numeric keyboard. Of course you can also stay in the default text keyboard and hold down the 'q' key to get to number '1', w for 2 etc.
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Thanks for the tips. I wish the texting on this phone could be like the iPhone. The iPhone texting is the best so far I've used. Very responsive and smooth. Accurate texting correction too. sigh...
More texting tips
Sure thing.
Also check out the link below for some useful tips on improving texting and adding common used text or email addresses etc to the XT9 My Words, hidden on the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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Sure thing.
Also check out the link below for some useful tips on improving texting and adding common used text or email addresses etc to the XT9 My Words, hidden on the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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ohh, I tried all those already. But its seems the same. No improvement. The biggest bothersome and most annoying is that curser keep going back to the beginning.
Thanksssss niteowl.
kandekid said:
ohh, I tried all those already. But its seems the same. No improvement. The biggest bothersome and most annoying is that curser keep going back to the beginning.
Thanksssss niteowl.
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Are you sure you're not tapping the ' > ' arrow button underneath at the same time?
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Are you sure you're not tapping the ' > ' arrow button underneath at the same time?
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Yes, I am very very sure. I even try it slowly too and the curser still dislocate to the beginning.
kandekid said:
Yes, I am very very sure. I even try it slowly too and the curser still dislocate to the beginning.
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I've noticed if messaging is in the middle of suggesting a word it will go back to the beginning, if not it won't.
do you guys think hard reset will fix the problem? I'm tempted to do it but worry that it could be a waste of effort since after a hard reset i have to set up the phone all over again from scratch.
kandekid said:
do you guys think hard reset will fix the problem? I'm tempted to do it but worry that it could be a waste of effort since after a hard reset i have to set up the phone all over again from scratch.
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It will be waste of time. All you got to do it complete the word and if any suggested words are still showing press the correct one. Then press 12#
johnk1973 said:
It will be waste of time. All you got to do it complete the word and if any suggested words are still showing press the correct one. Then press 12#
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I can confirm that this works... It is still a bug! The cursor should not go to the start of the message...
DeadVirus said:
It is still a bug! The cursor should not go to the start of the message...
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Of course it is, but at least you now know how to avoid it.
if anyone know the solution to this, please post and share. thanks so much guys!
I also get this problem quite often.
I am wondering if the Rom update that was posted to the HTC HK site (in English) will fix this problem.
The update seems to deal with their sms system, so I am sure we are not alone in this problem.
SaintlyNYC said:
I also get this problem quite often.
I am wondering if the Rom update that was posted to the HTC HK site (in English) will fix this problem.
The update seems to deal with their sms system, so I am sure we are not alone in this problem.
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Hi, the 1.66 ROM doesn't fix it, I put that on at the weekend & still having the same issues. Battery life seems much better though
I didn't have this problem until I applied the sms hotfix from the HTC site. Have noticed it only affects the sms texting, emails and documents are unaffected.
I'm also having problems with the cursor but in a different behavior...my cursor goes ahead of my last text like about 17 spaces ahead, but when i type again, the letters (characters) will still appear after the last text that i typed, but still my cursor is ahead. it only happens when my dialogs in a contact reaches to 10 above and i am already typing at the second onward lines of my text message. it is difficult specialy when i'm deleting, i can't delete accurately. like this:
note: " l " is the cursor
" . " as the no. of spaces
"when are you going home? please
drop by the............ l "
and then
"when are you going home? please
drop by the store...........l "................and so on...
does anybody experienced this?
before my sms client is v1.5 (the stock client?), now v1.8....still the same.
This is for those who don't feel comfortable upgrading to a cooked ROM and want to preserve their warranties. If this has been mentioned, mods, feel free to delete thread.
So when Swype is used to create text messages, it needs all messages from that contact to load prior to being used. Any contact conversation that has over ~100 texts (inbound/outbound) will require a dumb amount of time to load prior to you using Swype. I absolutely love Swype and all qwerty methods of input seem ancient and insufficient after using it.
So, since I realized the loading of messages was the culprit, I simply switched over to traditional mode. When you receive a text, click the messaging home screen tab, go "All Messages", "Menu", "Settings" and choose "Traditional Mode". I'm sure many of you are aware that it exists and have been using it. So, when replying, I tap the messaging home screen tab, go to "All Messages", "Inbox", tap on the new text, "Menu" and "Reply". This allows Swype to only load that specific text, eliminating the lag or wait time typically needed in "Conversational Mode". I am now using Swype with contacts who have +1,000 messages with zero lag.
This may seem like a few extra steps just to reply to a text, but ultimately, it comes down to what you want out of it. I tend to be a rather lengthy text messenger and can fly with Swype, so the time it takes to navigate to a reply is far less than the time it would take to type out a message using an input method other than Swype.
This thread is only for those who are waiting for a firmware/Sense UI fix from HTC TMOUS and I don't deem this any type of permanent solution. I apologize if this has already been mentioned and if so, as previously stated, mods please delete/lock. Hopefully this sheds some relief to those of you irritated with Swype and the fact that it takes so long to load in "Conversational Mode".
If you want to keep conversation mode.
When you go to your messages and it is starting load, quickly hit send then say no to sending a blank sms message. Amazingly it has been completely loaded.
Hmm. I have heard of that method as well, but didn't seem to work for me. Hopefully others will find either way useful.
It works for me but I've noticed that the more messages you have in a thread, you have to do it more than once to get all the texts to load. I just really hate the traditional mode. What I really dont get is if we have a workaround for this then why cant the app do it automaticaly?! Maybe someone can or already did discover a reg tweak to change this! Time to search the forums!!
Why can i never just get a cool phone and it just WORK?!?!
So i have the Note,and it is buggy as all hell.
The typing is about as accurate as my old HTC Touch HD.
When i click on the search forum tab the text entry screen pops up, i type 1 letter then the text entry screen just vanishes.
I was trying to set up an order for broadband on the phone and when i try to center the chat screen so i can type it keeps vanishing half way off of the screen and wont center
when chatting with another company their text would show but my entry window would not.
And WHY is this keyboard soooooo un-accurate. i never had issues with my iPhone text entry and the buttons were no where near this large. Am i typing too fast?
any suggestions?
thanks
johseph said:
Why can i never just get a cool phone and it just WORK?!?!
So i have the Note,and it is buggy as all hell.
The typing is about as accurate as my old HTC Touch HD.
When i click on the search forum tab the text entry screen pops up, i type 1 letter then the text entry screen just vanishes.
I was trying to set up an order for broadband on the phone and when i try to center the chat screen so i can type it keeps vanishing half way off of the screen and wont center
when chatting with another company their text would show but my entry window would not.
And WHY is this keyboard soooooo un-accurate. i never had issues with my iPhone text entry and the buttons were no where near this large. Am i typing too fast?
any suggestions?
thanks
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I personaly don`t have that issue. Try going in recovery and clear the cache and reboot. If that doesn`t help do a factory reset (*2767*3855#), backup your files first!. If that doesn`t help reflash the rom of your country/region with Odin.
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Firstly, this is in the wrong section. Secondly, if you cant ask a question in a civilised manner. Then Dont!