Hi, I have no idea about programming and absolutely clueless about Android devolopement. I have been using x1 before the x10, and there somebody made Android 2.1 which starts off from the SD card. Even if we cannt get the phone rooted can do something like what they have done??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=622
If I sound like an idiot could the mods delete this thread please.
I believe that the X1 is WM6.5 ?
I don't think that Android and WM Devices have the same methods to root a phone...
chandyperry said:
I believe that the X1 is WM6.5 ?
I don't think that Android and WM Devices have the same methods to root a phone...
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anything related to the first post?
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I understood that he thinks that it may be possible to put 2.1 on the X10 with the X1 SD card method. And I answered that those 2 phones ave different OS, so for me it's not possible... that's all...
Ask jerpelea. He is a master chef and I saw him on this forum recently. I'm gonna try his x1 eclair port tonight but I'm willing to bet its great (just like everything he's made that I've used)
I thought we might be able RUN Android 2.1 from SD card just like we did in X1. I know that would not be a ROM and probably we would waste RAM too, but we might have the 2.1 anyway. In X1 they had lot of problems with drivers and everything (stuffs I don't understand ) but this is already an ANdroid phone, so drivers shouldn't be the problem (also because we already have the X10 ROM). Moreover we don't even need to map any keyboard, like we had to do in X1, cuz it has no keyboard
Theres no haret on linux..though as root you could have your system or data partition on the sdcard with no problems,just modifying the initrd..
And run windows 95 emulated too
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Who is Haret??
just kidding, so I guess the answer is no not possible.
(now is the time for someone to say WAIT THERE MIGHT BE A WAY).
Ok so nobody said "wait a minute ..... we can do this...". Fine I will say it myself.
Wait a minute I think this could be done. See if we put DOSbox (win 3.1) as an app then start the haret from SD. And then we can get even Android 2.2.
So who knows how to do it??
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Ok so nobody said "wait a minute ..... we can do this...". Fine I will say it myself.
Wait a minute I think this could be done. See if we put DOSbox (win 3.1) as an app then start the haret from SD. And then we can get even Android 2.2.
So who knows how to do it??
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So you are saying to run android 2.x on top of dosbox which is on top of android 1.6?
Ok so nobody said "wait a minute ..... we can do this...". Fine I will say it myself.
Wait a minute I think this could be done. See if we put
So you are saying to run android 2.x on top of dosbox which is on top of android 1.6?
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DosBox to run 2.2 is a BAD idea sorry...
You can maybe boot 2.2 but the performance on dosbox is realy crappy.
Another ting, will the camera work, sound, gps, 3G, mic? +++
And the last thing i think dosbox is only read-only.
Try it and give us feedback. Maybe we can use it GL
Just my 2 cent:
Dosbox would only be needed to START booting linux, so the linux image then shoud run natively. A performance problem should not exist.
On my X1 haret.exe was only used to pass over control to the booting process. afterwards WiMo 6.5 was not running in background, the full ram was handed over to Android/Linux.
So the question should be, if dosbox would prevent haret.exe from initiating the booting process (as the adresses needed are "shielded") ....
Bax
Makes alot of sense
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Just my 2 cent:
Dosbox would only be needed to START booting linux, so the linux image then shoud run natively. A performance problem should not exist.
On my X1 haret.exe was only used to pass over control to the booting process. afterwards WiMo 6.5 was not running in background, the full ram was handed over to Android/Linux.
So the question should be, if dosbox would prevent haret.exe from initiating the booting process (as the adresses needed are "shielded") ....
Bax
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To me this all seems to make alot of sense. Dosbox.apk on SD card, Run haret, Boot Android 2.X. No altering of scripts shoould be needed for native android phones correct?
So why would this not work? Should be safe to try atleast and also alot easier than rooting the phone at this point. Am I right?
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Should be safe to try atleast and also alot easier than rooting the phone at this point. Am I right?
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And will be soooo slow as a pig riding a donkey
Should be safe to try atleast and also alot easier than rooting the phone at this point. Am I right?
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And will be soooo slow as a pig riding a donkey
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Why do you say that? I have a old touch cruise running ecleir with no issues why would this be a problem on the x10?
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I just found a alpha version of dosbox for android, the only problem is that it does not support software keyboards. Is there any way to control the phone via a computer so we can try to boot haret?
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I found a way to use the keyboard now but it covers up half the screen so im typing blind but it works! Just need to tell dosbox where to find haret now which i dont know how to do yet but im gonna figure it out!
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I keep geting a promt sayin "this program can not be run in dos mode" is there a way to work around this?
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I keep geting a promt sayin "this program can not be run in dos mode" is there a way to work around this?
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Not to screw your hopes, but dosbox emulates msdos (x86) and therefore nothing compiled for arm is going to work (not winmo or haret)
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Hey, the ROM for the Palm Pre is out.
http://palm.com/ROM
http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pre_p100eww/webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar (source)
If someone gets the ROM, wouldn't it be kinda cool trying to get it on the HTC devices?
Since I have no skills in programming or porting, I want to say that I'm interested in the thought. So who else is with me?
http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/184378-ok-rom-comes-30.html
Seems interesting. i cannot help but i would be interested in seeing this ported too. The only issue is that it is limited to devices with a keyboard as webOS does not have a software keyboard.
yes, but since they have "cracked" the OS, some have managed to build a "hello world" app. So touch keyboard are probably not that hard for the developers on xda
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yes, but since they have "cracked" the OS, some have managed to build a "hello world" app. So touch keyboard are probably not that hard for the developers on xda
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i tried to boot it on my touch dual... placed all nessecary files in /lib put the files onto a microSD, changed the haret default.txt, and booted it... it worked fine, without GUI tho. it ran fsck, started alsa up and ended in runlevel 2 at a login prompt. kind of weird... might have got the wrong rootfs by mistake, im gonna check that.
edit: indeed it was at the beginning of the boot sequence ( i created the nessecary /dev nodes using mknod ) i keep getting an error from the lib ld.so, that libgoodabort cannot be loaded. it stops after that point....
webOS seems to be a very nice fingerfriendly OS...
How much is actually the chance that webOS could be able to port to WM devices? Is webOS based on *nix like Android?
hmm, is webos going to be the new android for our devices? we may never know...
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i tried to boot it on my touch dual... placed all nessecary files in /lib put the files onto a microSD, changed the haret default.txt, and booted it... it worked fine, without GUI tho. it ran fsck, started alsa up and ended in runlevel 2 at a login prompt. kind of weird... might have got the wrong rootfs by mistake, im gonna check that.
edit: indeed it was at the beginning of the boot sequence ( i created the nessecary /dev nodes using mknod ) i keep getting an error from the lib ld.so, that libgoodabort cannot be loaded. it stops after that point....
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dude, how did you extract the content from the .jar? Extracted nova-cust-image-castle.rootfs.tar.gz from webOS.tar only?
EDIT: yes.. that's it, I'll try to run it like a virtual machine, but I don't think it will be easy!
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dude, how did you extract the content from the .jar? Extracted nova-cust-image-castle.rootfs.tar.gz from webOS.tar only?
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yep thats the files you need i guess. the other files are just bootloader stuff
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hmm, is webos going to be the new android for our devices? we may never know...
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think so! although its not open source (but the kernel is), it shouldnt be too hard to get it to work.... maybe only on omap devices though...
and yep, its *nix... java based as well apparently
i would loove to see webos come to our devices
Since WM can already multitask, wouldnt it be easier for some developers here to make a Windows mobile version of Tealos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-adhk9BDnw
Make it a little more stable & with much better icons.
We wouldnt get the universal search that webos have or the notifications area at the bottom but we would still have multitasking plus everything else WM has that WebOs lacks
this will be a treat whenever it happens...but multiple resolution and everything might take some time...goodluck guys
sounds wicked!
I would love to see this happin... as don't think I could leave tha WM OS having other OS's and UI's just just more braging power for us! lol plus No expendable memory on pre meen I probly won't buy one... don't know why they do that! smartphone should come with two SD card slots minimum! one mainly for programs and second for swopable file storage (needed to drop a post so I can find this thread again)
wow
Epic grammar skills.
Hum. This could be interesting to test this OS on a htc touch hd (palm pre is not sold in france...).
Does somebody or a team tries to really do it?
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Epic grammar skills.
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LMAO! yea sorry lotsa misstypes.. i do use xda 99% of tha time on my touch-vogue.. and mainly use tha standerd windows keyboard wit keys tha size of my stylus tip lol but my txt'n grammer is way more legable now, beleave me..(or jus google me)..lol
SORRY OFF TOPIC!!!!
WEB OS ON WM WOULD BE THA SH#T! PLEASE GET THIS WORKING I MEEN DAMN!!!!
Yea guys this would be stella!!! more bragging rights for us on why were better then the cryphone lol.... but in general the palm pre OS does like bad ass an I wouldnt mind running it/messing with it on my htc fuze!!! hope this gets done!
Awesome! I hope people get this working... It would be awesome to get it working on my Samsung i730, but I'm pretty sure the phone doesn't have much of a userbase anymore....
i'm kind of a junkie when it comes to phones, and i was contemplating getting a palm pre, but the hardware keyboard is terrible, so i wouldn't want it... but i really like the os. its just that the phone itself is crap.
here's a question though.. i read that the palm pre can do data, and phone at the same time... if it were at all possible to run the palm os rom on a cdma sprint tp, would we be able to actually use evdo rev a features, such as that?
Palm WebOS is opensource
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yep thats the files you need i guess. the other files are just bootloader stuff
think so! although its not open source (but the kernel is), it shouldnt be too hard to get it to work.... maybe only on omap devices though...
and yep, its *nix... java based as well apparently
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Since June 18, 2009 Palm was make Palm WebOS to OpenSource software http://pdnblog.palm.com/2009/06/palms-open-source-portal-is-now-available/
There are Palm WebOS opensource versions landed at: http://opensource.palm.com
Go to http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html to download Palm WebOS by versions, there are 1.0.1-4 versions are available to download. The latest is: http://opensource.palm.com/1.0.4/index.html
so, is it enough to start work out to port Palm WebOS to another one?
I have a BlueAngel device and wanted to port the nice OS to my device, anyone want to do it?
Is there a way i could duel boot windows mobile and android OS on my hero?
Thx lots
"sry if there is already a thread about this"
windows mobile died didnt it
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Is there a way i could duel boot windows mobile and android OS on my hero?
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No________
Why would you want to downgrade to WinMo?
just to do it
As far as I know there is no way to dual boot the two.
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windows mobile died didnt it
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after wp7 comes it will.
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Why would you want to downgrade to WinMo?
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i admit it would be a fun idea to play with but id prefer to get webos on the hero.
Is there any duel boot anything?
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Is there any duel boot anything?
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I believe there's an Ubuntu port that can be dual booted on WinMo.
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I believe there's an Ubuntu port that can be dual booted on WinMo.
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Erm, so you're going to emulate Windows mobile to emulate ubuntu. Doesn't sound like it will... work decently.
There isn't a way to get Windows Mobile on android; if you wanted windows mobile, you shouldn't of bought a android phone.
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Erm, so you're going to emulate Windows mobile to emulate ubuntu. Doesn't sound like it will... work decently.
There isn't a way to get Windows Mobile on android; if you wanted windows mobile, you shouldn't of bought a android phone.
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there isn't a way? You tried?
I'm pretty sure if someone is committed, they'll find a way
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there isn't a way? You tried?
I'm pretty sure if someone is committed, they'll find a way
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This, and his 10chars.
bikcmp said:
Erm, so you're going to emulate Windows mobile to emulate ubuntu. Doesn't sound like it will... work decently.
There isn't a way to get Windows Mobile on android; if you wanted windows mobile, you shouldn't of bought a android phone.
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I was replying to someone else. Not sure why you quoted me on that one. I have no intention of ever running WinMo again, it even says so in my sig.
However if someone else wants to emulate WinMo on the hero I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to try. A lot of times people do things 'just to see if they'll work'....so lose the attitude.
yeah there isn't really a reason i want to just to see if there is a way and to see how it runs and such
how about throwing windows 98 up on that ***** and breaking out a nice bluetooth mouse and keyboard
after wp7 comes it will.
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From what I know, w7 will stripe data across internal storage and sdcard, so you would need another sdcard for android
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First let me say thank you to the xda community. I have enjoyed several android rom on my HD2 and will continue to support and test roms hoping to make a permanent transition one day.
Now on to the meat of the thread. Since there are still several flaws in most builds still why not create a app that shuts down or suspends the session of android os without having a power cycle or hard reboot. This would allow the use to take full advantage of both OS surly making it the ultimate device.
Great. Now YOU go make one then.
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Great. Now YOU go make one then.
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Think its a pretty valid question. This would be good but don't think it is possible as Android can't access NAND yet and I'm guessing thats where the windows Kernal is so don't think it's possible. I may be totally wrong tho.
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Great. Now YOU go make one then.
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This is pathetic comment..
BTW for TS (thread starter) u post on the wrong section, there's question section..
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Think its a pretty valid question. This would be good but don't think it is possible as Android can't access NAND yet and I'm guessing thats where the windows Kernal is so don't think it's possible. I may be totally wrong tho.
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I thought the android os is already running on top of the windows mobile OS making the phone a virtual machine.
No. It shuts down wimno when haret is loaded.
In theory, it's a great idea...but it's not really possible
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I thought the android os is already running on top of the windows mobile OS making the phone a virtual machine.
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Nah, when you run Android, Windows Mobile shuts down completely...Windows Mobile is just used to initialise some of the hardware first
linux virtual machine?
Thanks for helping me clear that up.
i was hoping for a meld of the two os like a virtual machine.
Has someone investigated that?
Thanks
Yes, but you'll have to pay for a license
I guess nobody cares anymore now that HP killed it...
Yes,I think less people to try the system..
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Yes,I think less people to try the system..
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I do want to try this out.
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Has someone investigated that?
Thanks
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No shure but the Hero has lot of hardware limitations...so i think's this is a NO)) to bad, because it's a great phone... Sense 2.1 isn't to optimized for it to run properly...
PS: i'll keep you guys posted on how WebOS is when i get my tablet delivered
Stefan
I would rather like to see win6.5 or win7.. though m using android but I still miss and llike windows mob... but atlast nobody cares to port windows so forget abt WebOs..
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I would rather like to see win6.5 or win7.. though m using android but I still miss and llike windows mob... but atlast nobody cares to port windows so forget abt WebOs..
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Well Why not buy a windows phone?...The htc HD2 can run windows and android to, u can use even MIUI on it
As for webOS, it's very fun to use and stable...don't know why hp stopped producing tablets and the Pre3 because the os is smooth and stable
For the moment i just installed preware on it, and will run a 720p video to see how it works
Stefan
Yesterday i've found BOCHS, a DOS emulator for Android, iOS and PC. It's capable to run every Windows (from Windows 3.1 or lower to Win7 starter), Ubuntu or every x86 based OS. So, as we know, the Note cant be downgraded other than 2.3.4 GB. So, i want to try the early build of Android (1.6 Donut) in his x86 version and see what happens. I'm downloading the iso right now. I will tell you what happens later. I'm not a developer, just a normal "Romflasher" user. Sorry my bad english!
Tested Ubuntu 12.10 and booted, but seconds later it says he needs a new kernel. Tested 98lite (windows 98) and booted fine and working almost everything so i hope it will work too.
Hey, because YOLO right? :laugh:
Good luck :fingers-crossed:
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Hey, because YOLO right? :laugh:
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Marco Yolo...?:silly:
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Marco Yolo...?:silly:
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YoLOL
What do you mean about "Yolo"? Anyway, it booted (using QEMU), its a bit slow but works nice, Wifi doesnt work (probably because Qemu doesnt support internet sharing) the resolution its 800x600 16bits and it cant be changed... Turns really Slooooooow when you try to power of it (because the blurried background)...
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i just installed windows 95 on my note
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What do you mean about "Yolo"? Anyway, it booted (using QEMU), its a bit slow but works nice, Wifi doesnt work (probably because Qemu doesnt support internet sharing) the resolution its 800x600 16bits and it cant be changed... Turns really Slooooooow when you try to power of it (because the blurried background)...
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And the winner of this experiment is???
You better save some time and go for a beer with friends...unless you are not working on 4.3 jb version leaked from toilette cleaner at google
I am just wondering how was donut or cupcake better even from s60 nokias at that time...what feature we could use out of it....
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And the winner of this experiment is???
You better save some time and go for a beer with friends...unless you are not working on 4.3 jb version leaked from toilette cleaner at google
I am just wondering how was donut or cupcake better even from s60 nokias at that time...what feature we could use out of it....
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Seriously, i didnt wanted to get a fully functional android 1.6 working in our note. I was bored, so i've found this app and i've thougt it was funny having that OS in our note, it wasnt a real experiment or something, just a funny try. Its obviously today, in 2013, this android version is obsolete...
well, going back oldskool is good
but it does takes time to render the "from the future" hardware that our Gal Note have
its safe to say that running older OS doesnt hurt ur phone, it just hurt ur brain hahaha