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Since HTC/Sprint released a new ROM - how long will it be before somebody releases a custom/cooked/optimized ROM? Has there been any work done in that direction yet?

zelet said:
Since HTC/Sprint released a new ROM - how long will it be before somebody releases a custom/cooked/optimized ROM? Has there been any work done in that direction yet?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318038
Progress is being made! I wish I could help, but I'm not that good at cooking sweet ROMs. I'll just be patient and wait for the good stuff to come. It's only a matter of time

im sorry i know this is probably the stupidest question ever and some of you all thinkin damn whats he doin on these forums but i like learnig new things whats a ROM? sorry....

raidens330ci said:
im sorry i know this is probably the stupidest question ever and some of you all thinkin damn whats he doin on these forums but i like learnig new things whats a ROM? sorry....
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Hehe, he all have to start somewhere right?
An easy way to explain it is if you think of your device as a regular home computer. A "ROM" would be a piece of software that includes the operating system, drivers, and can include added applications. Basic, but do you follow?

kinda like emulators and roms? like a N64 emulator and it plays N64 ROMS.. ROMS are the games..? the games (APPS((roms) and the cell(titan((emulator))

raidens330ci said:
kinda like emulators and roms? like a N64 emulator and it plays N64 ROMS.. ROMS are the games..? the games (APPS((roms) and the cell(titan((emulator))
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Well, no, not exactly. That would imply that your device is somehow emulating an OS within an existing OS.
The ROM is "package of sotware", including a "native" Windows CE OS and drivers/software for your specific device.
Without a ROM, your phone would be inoperable. It would be like having a computer with an empty hard drive.

ohhh ok gotcha so why are people tryin to change up the rom? what are they tryin to do cuz the only thing i plan on doin when i get the mogul is getin the Iphone theme lol but if there addin cool stuff i would def be interested

raidens330ci said:
ohhh ok gotcha so why are people tryin to change up the rom? what are they tryin to do cuz the only thing i plan on doin when i get the mogul is getin the Iphone theme lol but if there addin cool stuff i would def be interested
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That's a question with about a hundred different answers.
Primarily, people change around or "cook" ROMs to make their device better. This can include, making it run faster, lighter (less bloatware), more stable, etc.
Also, for some devices that can support it, stepping up the OS is another reason. For example, you may buy a phone that was purchased running Windows Mobile 5. But after some time Windows Mobile 6 was released on other, similar phones. So, some developers or "chefs" on this site take basically an image of the updated OS from one phone, tweaks it, adds some things, takes away others, and voila! A phone with an updated OS, running better than ever.

sweet something to look forward to especially since im puttin the iphone theme on my phone and thats takes alot of memory to run

Athena Android Project 1.0

Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.

good job seeing my post 15015 years ago people!
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ltxda just likes to steal my thunder =p

ltxda said:
Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
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What about the vanilla AP4 that does not require repartitioning?

eaglesteve said:
What about the vanilla AP4 that does not require repartitioning?
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OFF TOPIC ALERT....OFF TOPIC ALERT!!!!
It should not require the new SPL. Final determination will be posted upon release of course.

boinger66 said:
good job seeing my post 15015 years ago people!
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ltxda just likes to steal my thunder =p
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LOL!
Hey I don't even think I ready your post...but glad you're part of the team, so don't complain!
Anyhow, we have some resources and not just an idea.

How do u think do this?
Will i need to flash my device new?
When it is so, for me -1
When i can have AP4 and Android TOGETER on one device +1

crazy cat said:
How do u think do this?
Will i need to flash my device new?
When it is so, for me -1
When i can have AP4 and Android TOGETER on one device +1
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Should be able to run both on your device but not at the same time.

Multi-boot or liveCD ISO concept desired
Guys,
It would be great to have both PK 4.0 and Andriod working at the same time in either a multi-boot scenario, or in a vm / overlay based solution. If we could launch the Andriod solution from miniSD or ext rom, that would be awesome. Especially for the 1.0 versions. Later 2.0 or stronger could completely replace a PK based ROM, if we had all of the tools and applications ported over to support andriod as a daily user / solution.
I know that these thoughts may seem a bit different that what was mentioned in the past, but I think that they would allow for better acceptance and utility until the Andriod solution picks up more steam and acceptance amonst the community...
There are also some WM based applications that I wouldn't want to loose or to have to port over at this time.
Hope this helps,
Bob

ltxda said:
Well people. We've released AP4.0 and everyone is trying it out.
What we want to try next is Android.
Keep your eyes open. We're going to start putting things together for this project soon.
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Go A-Team! haha

I had to go and find out just what android was but now I know, I think it is excellent and has oodles of potential

ltxda said:
Should be able to run both on your device but not at the same time.
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This sounds good!
When you can create a "Bootloader - screen" where i can select, wat OS i want use i vote +1!

There atleast is a definate potential for a bootloader piece like the pc has of lilo or grub for the ppc it will all be determined based on what we can create and develop

Hi
I mentioned once before that android could be cool
It would be great

Perfect idea! I you need testers let me know! Two OS versions on a machine AP4 and Android, whats next?

QAN said:
Perfect idea! I you need testers let me know! Two OS versions on a machine AP4 and Android, whats next?
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iphone port

Great idea
What is this? The enterprise.... Go where no man has gone before I I captain ltxda

linux would be a good idea also

scopy60 said:
linux would be a good idea also
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Qtopia is beginning to appear on one or two devices, main problem it appears is secrecy from HTC on some of their hardware from what I understand. But htc are supposed to be involved in android, so it should be a bit easier..

scopy60 said:
linux would be a good idea also
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android is based on linux i believe

bob_beringer said:
Guys,
It would be great to have both PK 4.0 and Andriod working at the same time in either a multi-boot scenario, or in a vm / overlay based solution. If we could launch the Andriod solution from miniSD or ext rom, that would be awesome. Especially for the 1.0 versions. Later 2.0 or stronger could completely replace a PK based ROM, if we had all of the tools and applications ported over to support andriod as a daily user / solution.
I know that these thoughts may seem a bit different that what was mentioned in the past, but I think that they would allow for better acceptance and utility until the Andriod solution picks up more steam and acceptance amonst the community...
There are also some WM based applications that I wouldn't want to loose or to have to port over at this time.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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It will be released so WM is preserved and you will be able to boot to Android then go back to WM. Not sure of all the specifics yet as those will be worked out. Great minds think alike.

WM 6.1 ROM

Exist any WM6.1 ROM for HTC Dream ? Please dont ask me why I need this.
Thanks.

No, not going to happen, been asked many, many, many times already.

why not ? where is the problem to cook non official ROM ?

For one, its a waste of a perfectly good phone to put that CRAP on it. If you want a piece of crap, buy a piece of crap.
Second, the required drivers simply don't exist.

What do you men crap ? OK, the second explanation is better.

I think lbcoder got it right. windows mobile IS Junk. I have a Kaiser in addition to the G1. The Kaiser has great hardware minus the KB, small screen, and quiet speaker, but it has a horrific OS e.g. It's slow, locks up, restarts itself for no reason.
The G1 however has a great OS that needs little or no changing at all, but dumbed down hardware.

marek1 said:
Exist any WM6.1 ROM for HTC Dream ? Please dont ask me why I need this.
Thanks.
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Since your question is completely asinine I'm going to ask you why you need this: Why do you need this?
Edit: Oh and You're Welcome.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429808
Bottom line is if you want WinMo, buy a WinMo phone. Most of the hackers working on HTC Dream are working on Android.
Oh yeah and use the search.

lbcoder said:
For one, its a waste of a perfectly good phone to put that CRAP on it. If you want a piece of crap, buy a piece of crap.
Second, the required drivers simply don't exist.
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I concur. I couldn't imagine going to winmo after being blessed with android.

he he he he....
I guess we want what we don't have? Many folk are working on porting Android to our WM devices.... Maybe it's just the challenge of it all?

cr1960 said:
he he he he....
I guess we want what we don't have? Many folk are working on porting Android to our WM devices.... Maybe it's just the challenge of it all?
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Now that I think about it; I sure wouldn't mind the ability to dual boot. Not even sure why but maybe just for that hell of it.

Makes no sense
I had the T-mobile Dash before the G1 and wound up giving the dash to my wife. I was helping her learn to use it and only then did I realise how goofy the setup of it all is. They say the beauty of it is that it tries to emulate the Windows experience, but if my desktop worked like that...I'ld have a mac.

wm1 said:
I had the T-mobile Dash before the G1 and wound up giving the dash to my wife. I was helping her learn to use it and only then did I realise how goofy the setup of it all is. They say the beauty of it is that it tries to emulate the Windows experience, but if my desktop worked like that...I'ld have a mac.
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Best post in this thread. Completely true and funny as hell.
That being said I'm STILL excited to see what WinMo 7 brings to the table.

Would it be possible to run MOTOBLUR on the Hero?

Just wondering if anyone had tried porting it or anything like that. That would be neat.

Go ahead and try it. Let us know how it works out for you...

I'll try and fiddle around with it.

There was a thread about it and someone was working it, but its under all these topics. Would be nice to have though.
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

I don't think any true "porting" would be necessary. If we were to push/pull the right apks/libs, it would probably fire right up. They have a system dump of the Motorola Enzo in the general Android development forums that I was looking at last night... the system/app directory seemed to contain multiple apks related to the blur interface...
I didn't look to far into it... unsure if it'll run on 2.1 currently. I'd rather work on porting Windows Mobile Classic.

I attempted and got it booting, but didn't have time to fix the issues.
Once we get FriendStream I think blur is useless.

illogic6 said:
I don't think any true "porting" would be necessary. If we were to push/pull the right apks/libs, it would probably fire right up. They have a system dump of the Motorola Enzo in the general Android development forums that I was looking at last night... the system/app directory seemed to contain multiple apks related to the blur interface...
I didn't look to far into it... unsure if it'll run on 2.1 currently. I'd rather work on porting Windows Mobile Classic.
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ahhhh WinMo... how I loved thee. I really do miss my HTC Touch (Vogue) its cuz of zenulator an co. that I jumped on the android ship

Kcarpenter said:
I attempted and got it booting, but didn't have time to fix the issues.
Once we get FriendStream I think blur is useless.
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Maybe, but FriendStream honestly kinda sucks compared to MotoBlur in my opinion. Not as feature rich.

do they even have motoblur yet running on anything 2.1? Don't think the droid has it...

If you are going to try. Go download s_blur on the G1 forums, it would give you a good starting base, then take it appart pull its kernel out, put our kernel in.
I had to stop when I was having issues with my linux liveCD and using CPIO. Can't unpack/repack the files with out that. and for some reason it just wouldn't work for me. I was going to try again one day because it would be cool.
But anyways:
Once you get our kernel in it, it will boot. but just about everything force closes.

Where do you get FriendStream?

TheBiles said:
Where do you get FriendStream?
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I think only the legend Rom has it working.

schizopunk said:
Maybe, but FriendStream honestly kinda sucks compared to MotoBlur in my opinion. Not as feature rich.
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?, I haven't found it to be anymore feature packed (From what I tried on the Moto Backflip), FS is more compacted whereas MB is split (widget wise).

I think its better split up cause if you follow a lot of people its hard to manage that with FriendStream, I dont know.

if it was possible to port onto the HTC Touch then its possible for our phone it just requires a dev with the knowhow and the demand for such a rom. lets be honest as much as our devs love to tweak their phones they also need some love in the form of donations because this work isnt easy. I was building my own roms for my Touch before the Hero came along and it was tedious work. That said if its ever done I will try this out as I just bought my girl a Moto Cliq and she seems to LOVE it. I honestly tho will never buy another phone that isnt made by HTC

I was fiddling around with this too. I got it to boot and connect to Sprint.... but that's all I got it to do.

HeroMeng said:
I was fiddling around with this too. I got it to boot and connect to Sprint.... but that's all I got it to do.
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You act like that's a bad thing. I know nothing about building roms, but a start is a start. Anyhow, a blur rom would be awesome to have. I personally like the look of motoblur.

I had this running on the touch vogue when it first came out. It's ok but sense is way better for me and really don't do the social networking thing. Now if it had anti-social networking I'd be using it right now.

[Q] Honeycomb on Hero?

can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??

If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..

RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874

hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?

I would say try it.

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I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.

Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system

yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?

sjknight413 said:
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.

If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...

mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems

elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.

maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux

elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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????
the G1 is already running it!!!

hiato said:
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the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!

Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App

Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.

but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner

Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!

no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner