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Are we allowed to advertise items for sale?

Without getting banned I'd thought I would ask the question first!
If I had a new XDA Trion for sale, could I advertise it here rather than put it on eBay?
I've done a quick search through the forum & couldn't find any rules.
Thanks
Jamie

jamiee said:
Without getting banned I'd thought I would ask the question first!
If I had a new XDA Trion for sale, could I advertise it here rather than put it on eBay?
I've done a quick search through the forum & couldn't find any rules.
Thanks
Jamie
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It is good that you asked, alot of people think that trying to sale you phone on here is not good. But i think that sometime it is ok, but then sometimes not!!!
I think that if you write some thing and let it go for people to read, then ok, but some people i have seen will try and keep it at the top of the list and it just bugs people!!!
But if you are nice and dont bug people, i dont think anyone would moan about it!!!
so a long story short, i would do it but if some one does not like it, take it out!!!

jamiee said:
Without getting banned I'd thought I would ask the question first!
If I had a new XDA Trion for sale, could I advertise it here rather than put it on eBay?
I've done a quick search through the forum & couldn't find any rules.
Thanks
Jamie
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There is truth in what Funman says. In general we do not allow selling of devices on the forum except now and again when someone is letting it be known their older device is now for sale. Occasionally it's ok on a device specific board if it's for spare parts. Also I think it best that such adverts are kept away from device specific boards and put in General or Off Topic. If I were you I would PM Flar our admin for official guidance.
Mike

Thanks for the advise. I think I'll just eBay it. I don't want to risk getting banned!
Thanks again.

Senseless and juvenile threads, why is there no moderator here?

Lately this forum has been littered with senseless and useless garbage. People are starting threads only to say stuff like "I got Froyo...not!". I thought the point of this community was to share information and be helpful to others in need. Who is the moderator here (do we even have one? I have yet to see one post), and why is all of this nonsense allowed to fly?

here...here.

Amen, this **** is getting really old.
YOU ARENT FUNNY OR ORIGINAL.
Theres at least 3 or 4 topics on the first page with this bull****, why hasnt it been cleaned out?
My topic was deleted immediately after my problem was solved, yet all these 12 year olds run rampant here in the General section, completely unchecked.

Funny, i reported to moderators the same thing you are saying a few minutes ago... i mostly just ignore those kind of posts, but it's getting very old to come in here and just read senseless threads all over it.

If they where at least original but three threads for the same stupidity, seriously?
Vibrant vibrating nicely now,Kthx!

I think the moderator is also a developer. Properly moderating this forum would probably require at least one full time salaried employee.
I agree though, this is quite possibly one of the worst boards I've ever read. If you check out the other sections of this site it seems pretty normal, vibrant section is like west Baltimore. No idea why that is, different overall demographic I guess, lot of kids, who knows.
Its fun to read over coffee or while bored at work, and there are some decent posters, but overall the vibrant general board is pretty well a mess.

I happens...as a long-time lurker and now registered, it looks like the "android-forums" are leaching over. I just do not click on topics that seem to fit into this thread's category.
Yea, it has gotten old.

You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...

watcher64 said:
You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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Are you serious?
Please let me know the exact post count/contribution threshold that you have deemed appropriate for deciding whether or not a useless, off-topic post, belongs anywhere other than the Off-Topic board.
In fact, what I find most annoying, is people who have inflated egos and think that they are better and can decide who is a worthy contributor.

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You know what I find even more annoying ....
People that do not contribute, have been here only a short time, that think they know what is best for this board ...
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What's worse is a senior member not realizing that what the op is saying is completely true. You don't have to be here for a long time to know what's right, that's common sense.
If I was allowed to moderate this thread, just logging in once a night to delete/ move threads should be enough to keep it clean. Then, when I get tired of doing so, why not allow someone else to do it? Just a thought.

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Are you serious?
Please let me know the exact post count/contribution threshold that you have deemed appropriate for deciding whether or not a useless, off-topic post, belongs anywhere other than the Off-Topic board.
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Never said anything about off topic posts, or even post count .....
But to make a thread like this is just as bad ...
But like any "community" you have different types of people, and unless the "majority" sees the problem then just whining about it does nothing but annoy the rest of us.
It is the old "If you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" stance, there are contact pages to send messages to the board owners/admins for this kind of thing.
This board has been here for a long time, and it was originally for people who were DEV's and People wanting to learn not for instant gratification.
I do agree that the "BS" threads are annoying, but does this thread not fall into that same category.

watcher64 said:
Never said anything about off topic posts, or even post count .....
But to make a thread like this is just as bad ...
But like any "community" you have different types of people, and unless the "majority" sees the problem then just whining about it does nothing but annoy the rest of us.
It is the old "If you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" stance, there are contact pages to send messages to the board owners/admins for this kind of thing.
This board has been here for a long time, and it was originally for people who were DEV's and People wanting to learn not for instant gratification.
I do agree that the "BS" threads are annoying, but does this thread not fall into that same category.
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I have contacted moderators/admins.
But it comes down to what constitutes deletion of a thread. Like I said earlier, I started a topic in Q&A recently with a bug question. I solved my problem, but in solving it, another question arose. However my thread was deleted before I could even come back to check it again.
If my thread, after having my problem solved, was deemed unnecessary, then why not all these garbage threads, with no point or reason?

Well said op big +1 from this vib/xda user.
And all the "bricked" threads.. Dont people have scrole wheels on thier f_ing mouses?

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I have contacted moderators/admins.
But it comes down to what constitutes deletion of a thread, like I said earlier, I started a topic in Q&A recently with a bug question, I solved my problem, but in solving it, another question arose. However my thread was deleted before I could even come back to check it again.
If my thread, after having my problem solved, was deemed unnecessary, then why not all these garbage threads, with no point or reason?
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Mainly because this is a public forum, and yes they are annoying, and a lot of useless crap, but everyone has a right to post , UNLESS the "gods on high" deem it unworthy, not sure why your thread got deleted, did you ask for it to be, was it a double post...
Yet here as with life there is/are double standards, so again making threads whining about it, is about as annoying and as the "nonsense" threads.
Are people unable to NOT READ nonsense threads, someone twisting your arm making you go into them, does search not work for you.
You do realize that what keeps a lot of the "nonsense" threads up in the list is people going into them complaining about them, people going in and saying "delete this thread" every few minutes does not help anything except keeping it at the top.
Ignore them and they will go away ...

I agree. The general forum is no longer worth reading.

both sides of fence
hell i just got rick rolled in a froyo thread but my fault for reading the thread. but i see both sides of the argument if you get annoyed from what people post don't read, but there are those who do like to abuse their posting rights and post stupid stuff but the rick rolling i got to give them kudos haven't been rick rolled in like a year so, touche on that one but yeah i would like to see more legit posts from people and not just some stupid gag post.

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hell i just got rick rolled in a froyo thread but my fault for reading the thread. but i see both sides of the argument if you get annoyed from what people post don't read, but there are those who do like to abuse their posting rights and post stupid stuff but the rick rolling i got to give them kudos haven't been rick rolled in like a year so, touche on that one but yeah i would like to see more legit posts from people and not just some stupid gag post.
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You really can't control , or I say should not have to control, what and where people post, but you can control responses to those posts, if you ignore them , they fall off the radar, if you keep posting in them to complain they stay at the top.
Just as much as the people posting the crap , the people responding to the crap need some self control.
So again "if you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem" .
but I agree, have not been "rick rolled" in quite some time, silly , useless , but still some funny stuff ....

I liked the shroom thread.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Not a lot going on in vibrant land lately so not a lot of relevant worth reading topics or posts to water down the spam and trolls.
Once rom development picks up the vibrant boards will be flooded with topics and posts by people who can't read or follow directions and have no reason to be mucking around with their phones in the first place and demand help for problems they can't describe in coherent sentences. Like every other part of the forum.
Hopefully the development out weighs all of these things, which is what kept me coming back with my G1 and MyTouch 3G. Just report the thread/post and move on. What more can you do? Feeding the trolls never helps.

it's just the world we live in. as technology becomes the norm for most kids growing up, there will always be a clash. back in 96 it wasn't this bad. Kinda like dealing with your little brother we'll just have to deal with it. The only help we can get is some decent moderation here but they are not willing to do their job. Oh, they are busy? Then why not get someone for free [people do it for free ya know] to moderate the damn place?
sane1 - dude I like your avatar

Moderators???

Where are you guys? I have known XDA to be a place of organization... a place to be used as a top-notch resource... but 3/4 of the threads in this Atrix forum are rediculous! It is non-stop, people posting each and every little issue or question in a brand new, seperate thread! Please help clean up this forum, myself, and a ton of other people are counting on this place as a main source of information for our device!
Thank you very much.
And to the trolling posters out there:
-It doesn't matter which phone you came from! It doesn't need to be a thread!
-If you really don't like the Atrix and are returning it - go for it! Nobody cares what you are going back to. This is a place for people who have, and plan on keeping the device!
-If you dislike an aspect of the device, you don't need to make a thread about it!
-If you have a very general question, use the search function first please!
-If the search function fails, try google!
-If you don't own the device, please don't post your trolls here!
-If you are thinking about getting the device, read the Engadget review, it is helpful.
-If you are posting a comment that seems to be very general, chances are - it is! Try attaching that comment to a thread already in existence (ie, if you want to talk about a particular case under the accessory forum, post it to case thread, instead of asking a specific question on a specific case in a new thread.
-Please read the OP! Chances are, your question's answer is in that post...

Lots of whiny little *****es lately... +1 OP

joewoo said:
Lots of whiny little *****es lately... +1 OP
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Seriously!
And to break my own rules, I am coming from the Inspire forums... which are completely moderated, organized (and de-*****ed). It's enough already - this is a place for people who plan on having the Atrix for some time and want to discuss and make their experiences better.

So much *****ing and fanatism! I agree. Some moderation is needed urgently!
By the way, Atrix is a great phone as well as many other Android devices. 1,000 posts of comparison are not enpugh for people to understand what the phone is and how it works?

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Lots of whiny little *****es lately... +1 OP
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Completely agree with this. Another +1

well said OP!
I'm sat here using a wildfire, waiting (not so) patiently for the Atrix to be launched in the UK. I assumed that the wildfire board was so bad because it was a cheap phone, but no, this board is going the same way!
hopefully it will get sorted out before I get mine, and the fan boy agitators move back to their own turf

Make a dev tread clearer..

Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
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Question,
Is it possible for a topic starter in a dev tread to clean his own tread in the futere?
Mayby it's a idea to ad that option if a topic starter asked that.
And that they can only clean his/her tread?
I think it make yours and theirs live a lot relaxer.
You don't need to watch every tread. And the dev can keep his tread cleen without spamming and the same question over en over again.
Sorry for my typo.....
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The response.
12aon said:
Do you really think this is a good idea. Members get into fights, even topic starters. This could easily be misused, and I'm certain it will lead to more aggravation than it will solve.
Sent from the future using a surfboard
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My answer.
streamnlnl said:
Yes, I really think this is a good idea.
You can make rules before you ad the option. Like new members.
The dev need (for example) a least 100 post* before they can ask you for the option. Then you can screen the past of that person . And if they misbehaving. Then we (the not dev people) have many options to contact you. And after you warning a dev. The next time he goose across the line, he lost that option for good ...
But this is just my opinion. And again, I thinks this good really worked.
Thanks for answer me.
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Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.

streamnlnl said:
Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
The response.
My answer.
Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.
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No, rules are fine as is. And this is in the wrong section

Yeah I think this is a good idea

I think the idea is good in theory, however I don't see it being as good in practice. First, the devs rarely post anyway. I don't think they also want the responsibility of cleaning their own threads. To be honest, it is usually not the devs complaining about off topic. It's the senior members who have self assigned themselves forum police. I can definitely see something like this getting out of hand or misused.
I think the 10 posts minimum to post in the dev threads is both part of the problem and solution. Now we have noobs posting new threads wherever they can just so they can get a question answered or get their post count up. The problem is that they didn't LEARN anything by that rule. At the end of 10 forced posts they are still wanting an answer to their dev questions, so they post it in a dev thread anyway.
With xRecovery and the increasing ease of modifying your phone, more and more less experienced people are hacking their phones. Those people are inevitably going to have more questions, and the current "devs only" approach leaves them no option but to post in the devs thread.
I think the recent trend of linking a discussion thread to the dev thread is a more feasible and fair way to go. It would be better if somehow xda could link the discussion thread, rather than having a link hidden amongst the posts.
JMHO

Something such like this isn't possible, only if you would create in the Admin Control Panel a special usergroup to move devs to it. Just to much work for such a little thing.

this is not a good idea
and this would be apparent if people have been here for a length of time
im gonna give a scenario here
ok developers can mod their own threads. what if that same dev then does something bad and underhanded, and then a member in the threads knows and posts it in the thread (this has actually happened before). the dev then goes and deleted all traces of this from the thread so the moderators never know of the developers wrongdoing
in a perfect world this maybe a good idea
however at the minute no. this would allow a developers too many tools to cover up any moment of ill judgement

Not a good ideal for me. I'm sorry
Sent from my X10 using XDA App

Selling my dock

No sales outside marketplace

They sell for $150 new... I want it, but not for more than retail.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761727-REG/ASUS_TF101_DOCKING_Eee_Pad_Transformer_Docking.html

You're free to order it from there and wait a month if you want. Mine is indistinguishable from new. I paid $149 + tax + 2 day shipping, so I want $160 shipped for it. You'll have it by saturday if you order it from me.
They're $180 on ebay, but I figured I'd offer it to the community at a fair price before gouging people on there.

Selling here is against forum rules. Use the trade section please.

Sorry, didn't realize. Posting there now, this thread can be deleted.

stuntdouble said:
Selling here is against forum rules. Use the trade section please.
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I don't see a reason why you should try and be a moderator and scare the OP away like this. He would get more attention from the TF101 section whereas, personally people including myself don't go to sections outside our perspective devices.
If you have a problem with it then just use the report feature, you don't have to call him out on it. It's not like he did it intentionally.

I've found it for as cheap as $113 + $11 shipping and it was in stock last night, several other places had it in stock for under $140

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I've found it for as cheap as $113 + $11 shipping and it was in stock last night, several other places had it in stock for under $140
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That's great, they don't anymore as far as I can tell.

zephiK said:
I don't see a reason why you should try and be a moderator and scare the OP away like this. He would get more attention from the TF101 section whereas, personally people including myself don't go to sections outside our perspective devices.
If you have a problem with it then just use the report feature, you don't have to call him out on it. It's not like he did it intentionally.
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I'm not 'trying to be a moderator' nor am I trying to scare anyone away. Rules are there for a reason. And I did report it. As ALL users are meant to read the rules before they even post, and I believe that's one of the reasons they limited people's abilities to post to various areas, etc, people should all know these basic rules.

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I'm not 'trying to be a moderator' nor am I trying to scare anyone away. Rules are there for a reason. And I did report it. As ALL users are meant to read the rules before they even post, and I believe that's one of the reasons they limited people's abilities to post to various areas, etc, people should all know these basic rules.
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Limited posting? what? Dev forums always had a 10 post count required to post.
The post you made is just as meaningless as going into a thread into dev forum (or any other forum) and posting "wrong forum" just to raise your post count.
It's obvious that the OP didn't mean to break the rules intentionally. It was a mistake. People make mistakes, its apart of society.

I guess I'll just post this and leave it at that. Please read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
Thanks.

dont want to trash this thread, but stores are getting more and more stock nowdays. the dock has been priced under $120 shipped in some online stores. you might want to lower the price

10 character mispost

I'm debating whether or not to buy a dock. I have a laptop but I'm always too lazy to unplug it(it's running windows server dual boot with win7) so I got the TF so I could bring it to class and stuff

Wish youd decided to sell 2 days ago. Just paid 180 for one on ebay and they still havent shipped it...

144$+Tax Walmart online In Stock. Comes to under 160$ Shipped.

stuntdouble said:
I guess I'll just post this and leave it at that. Please read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
Thanks.
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lol, i was gonna post the exact same thing on a different thread, where zephiK, defender of n00bs criticized me for trying to be a mod as well...
sadly, a mod has already locked that thread, rightfully.

finalhit said:
lol, i was gonna post the exact same thing on a different thread, where zephiK, defender of n00bs criticized me for trying to be a mod as well...
sadly, a mod has already locked that thread, rightfully.
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Defender of n00bs? Not really.. just don't like people posting 'absurd' posts not helping out the OP regardless of the situation. I'm all about helping people and if that's not something you don't want to do. And you want to criticize how the OP posted it without posting any informative response to it then its simple. Don't respond back to it.
It's so meaningless to go into somebodies thread and post "wrong forum," "oh you're breaking the rules"
unless they did it intentionally, i don't think that it's such a huge problem. thats a moderators' job. you just do you and let the mods do their job, as a user you could just report their post and the mods will get to resolving the problem.
Just my two cents.

actually he did help out by directing OP to the rules. and the OP read and followed. pretty darn helpful i you ask me.
if someone can't follow rules how do you expect them to follow your advice when they post OMGGG IM BRIKKED!!!

No sales threads outside the marketplace, you know the rules
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