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JasJar Broken

Hi to all,
i'm in a deep trouble with my jasjar, after 2 months of work it simply stopped to use internal speaker & mic for phone calls, but it plays the usual ringtone...
it can't play mp3 and so on, but it plays the ringtones but not the alarm or sms things... so my question:
is the speaker really broken or what?
i noticed that sometimes with jasjar in portrait mode it works... no way in landscape, so i was thinking of some electrical connections between the lcd and the turning pieces...
i'll probably return to the assistance but i'd like to know your experiences...
sorry for my english and thanks to all in advance.
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so long and thank for all the fish
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matteo

Doesn't seem like a hardware problem. Did you try doing a hard-reset? Just press on "clear storage" in programs. Should restore your device to factory state. Hope you have backed up your PIM data through activesync. If you haven't then just copy the pim.vol file on your device to your computer. You can replace it after a hard-reset and all your PIM data will be restored.
Post your results here after the whole process.

universaldoc said:
Doesn't seem like a hardware problem. Did you try doing a hard-reset? Just press on "clear storage" in programs. Should restore your device to factory state. Hope you have backed up your PIM data through activesync. If you haven't then just copy the pim.vol file on your device to your computer. You can replace it after a hard-reset and all your PIM data will be restored.
Post your results here after the whole process.
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i forgot: i've already tried an hard-reset and then a rom upgrade.. nothing seems to change...
it sounds strange to me too, cause the speaker is not gone at all, but it is a difficult thing to manage ...
what about electrical connections between the screen and the keyboard device? is it possible that it screwed up from a turn to another?

Matteo,
When my speaker and mic did not work (and ringtone did work!) I tested the sound with the wired headset. Everything worked.
Then I pulled the headset out again and the speaker sound is back. So it was a contact. But it felt like a software problem.
The Jasjar thought that my headset was still in.
Even the "speaker on" button did not react.
Does it change in "speaker off" when you click it during a call?
I think it will help to plug in and out the headset.
But give it a shot.
Huib

^ that's exactly what happened to my old imate jam. I did this and it worked! As far as i can remember, i was on the plane (14-hour flight) while using the jam as my mp3 player, the battery just died (after warning ofcourse) and when i tried to power it back on, the speaker is messed up.

pinoy said:
^ that's exactly what happened to my old imate jam. I did this and it worked! As far as i can remember, i was on the plane (14-hour flight) while using the jam as my mp3 player, the battery just died (after warning ofcourse) and when i tried to power it back on, the speaker is messed up.
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Then it could be a software error in stead of a loose contact.
The PPC thinks that the plug is still in and needs "reprogrammed" by putting it back in and pulling out?
The fact that the "speaker on" button can not toggle itself anymore is a clear signal. In my case it could have been, because I pulled it out while Skype was hanging, so again no option to "tell" the Jasjar it is pulled out?
But of course an ordinary loose contact is still possible?
Huib

herpi said:
pinoy said:
^ that's exactly what happened to my old imate jam. I did this and it worked! As far as i can remember, i was on the plane (14-hour flight) while using the jam as my mp3 player, the battery just died (after warning ofcourse) and when i tried to power it back on, the speaker is messed up.
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Then it could be a software error in stead of a loose contact.
The PPC thinks that the plug is still in and needs "reprogrammed" by putting it back in and pulling out?
The fact that the "speaker on" button can not toggle itself anymore is a clear signal. In my case it could have been, because I pulled it out while Skype was hanging, so again no option to "tell" the Jasjar it is pulled out?
But of course an ordinary loose contact is still possible?
Huib
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I dont think this is the problem....he's reflashed the rom, done a hard reset...nothing has helped
I guess your hardware has indeed coughed up!
S

OK, then still we have not heard from Matteo, if he tried to move that plug in and out.
If he hears the ringtone and cannot speak/use the mike then he can be concentrated on that plug. Certainly if his wired headset works.
But if he reflashed we can be sure it is no software. (Still after reflashing some settings remain intact. )
Right/wrong?
At least in my case, with the same symptoms, it worked.
Huib

Hi man, thank u for ur reply...
u'll probably won't believe to me but when i saw ur post i did the plug in&out trick with the wired headset... nothing changed.
Today after some bluetooth problem with my old jabra it started again to work perfectly.. sounds strange? sounds impossible but that's it....
maybe the wired connector was having problem, but i think there is a more complex situation, maybe somethin' about the software but i can't say that for sure...
i didn't try yet a reset or so on.... i'm scared
thank u all guys, u'r the best...!
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so long and thank for all the fish
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matteo

Matteo,
I am happy you solved it.
It is always a problem to start a discussion with the supplier about problems like this.
Good luck in the future!
And Buon Natale e felice anno nuovo
huib

JASJAR PARTS
I have a complete JASJAR worth of parts available.
Complete motherboard, not working
Complete screen, LCD is cracked, works, with 5% of the screen bleeding.
Full case, no cracks.
Speakers, mic, camera, etc.
All covers in good condition.
I will probably part them out soon on Ebay.
I used this unit for parts to build up another good JASJAR, but it may be useful for someone.
Tim

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tdrager said:
I have a complete JASJAR worth of parts available.
Complete motherboard, not working
Complete screen, LCD is cracked, works, with 5% of the screen bleeding.
Full case, no cracks.
Speakers, mic, camera, etc.
All covers in good condition.
I will probably part them out soon on Ebay.
I used this unit for parts to build up another good JASJAR, but it may be useful for someone.
Tim
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Hi Tim!
I really need one d-pad button (if it is a seperate thing then the big one without the center button). If you can sell it to me, please send me a mail.
THX

FWIW, my Jasjar has been acting strange lately with sounds. The other day I thought my speaker was toast and found that, upon going into Sounds & Notifications, all the checkmarks for sound were unticked. Turned the sounds back on and, wow, they worked.
All my mailboxes disappeared yesterday (Besides Hotmail, Outlook, Texts, MMS), so I think WM 5 might just like to play tricks with the registry. It's a long shot, but check those sounds & notifications settings - it saved me a heart attack.

Again.. Speaker Gone
Hi to all, first of all happy new year.
After several days without problem my jasjar re-started to think it's headset is still plugged-in.
No sound except for the ringtone. No effects on the speaker on in call...
Obviusly the plug-in plug-out trick of the headset doesn't help.
So, if it worked for several days it's not an electrical problem.
Hard-reset doesn't help... is there a way to tell JJ to not use the headset or something like that?
what do u think about?
thnks to all
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so long and thank for all the fish
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matteo

It's seems like your headset jack is creating the probelm. The only way right now is to send it for repair. Unless you can do the repair yourself.It seems like the headphone jack , one of the contact point is connected telling your JJ that there's a headset inserted. I might be wrong though.

Thank for your quick reply,
is it possible to do some software trick to disable at all the headset?
or is it possible to attach another jack with pin connected in some way to tell JJ to not bother...
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matteo

SOOOOOOOO Frustrating
I have the same problem and cannot get my sound back!! I am able to take the Universal (XDA EXEC) apart, and can access the headphone jack, but i cannot tell what it is that I need to change to get my sound back, If anyone has some insight, please help out, thanks

earphone problem

ok this is a bit funny
handsfree earphone works,,,but the ear phone in the mda compact doesnt work
the normal sound speaker works,,just not the phone speaker
ok it works stuttery when i press up on the slide switch and i can hear the caller kinda stuttering
wierd software rpoblem i think
its not hardware problem as the slider makes it work,,if i constantly press up o the slider but then i hear the caller and the beep beep it makes to tell you its at full volume

My qtek s110 is doing the same thing after i dropped it, could i have knocked the contacts?
Can anyone explain why the volume slider would make it work.
Cheers

I think its a hardware prob only! Cz if the volume slider is getting the sound volume increased, you guys still couldnt get the full volume right? If so, its probably the speaker or its contacts getting the problem!
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solution for no noise problems
Hey guys and girls, I also had problems with “no noise from the earpiece only.. and were puzzled with the problem for few days….until found the reason behind it.
As I am a lover with high-tech devices, I really wanted to fix this problem by myself (not prepared to pay few hundred dollars for repair from technicians).
I also want to contribute something on this site, as I have read great information’s from this site.
Here it goes.
I had this "no noise issue" problem with one of my device (have 2 sets of o2 mini) had no sound on the earpiece only (meaning speakerphone, hands free mic all works perfectly).
Now, to make everything short, I have done a great research with few personal technicians and even official technician from O2 Company and found the answers for this problem.
The fault actually lies with what is called the "Audio Daughter Board". It is a removable internal PCB that the speaker contacts to receive its audio signal from the phone. The board has a connector that is soldered to it which sits on another connector that is soldered to the main board. Both of these connectors can become removed from their respective solder connections usually as a result of a fall or physical impact. Usually all that is needed is a touch up of the solder points.
This Audio “daughter board” is connected with black connector at right hand side only, and the rest of the board with double sticky tape.
Most likely, the black connector has been disconnected to the “daughter board during drop of the device, as you need to solder the parts back (black connector has 14 legs, 7 on the left and 7 on the right) to get your earpiece sound back to normal.
I have done it, so can you (very small legs, so has to have delicate hands).
Now, mine works like a charm…. So happy…
After all, it was neither the programs, nor the legs of the earpiece, but the actual connection between the boards itself.
Hope my information helped.
Cheers
PS: I have updated my device to 2003 second edition with radio 1.13.00 but have no idea where to get pda programs. Can anyone let me know where to find such good programs?

It works!!!! Thanks

Your a genius
Hi im so happy it worked. I bought even a new speaker but this was noit the problem.
The internal speaker is now working but i found another problem with the ring tone liudness which i have to clarify now. So the serach will start again for me.
Again thanks.

Hi need help from all of u.
Hi my o2 mini have this problem, i can't hear anthing from the caller but they can hear me.may i know how to get the problem done, hope all of u can help me thank You.

bluehanul76
You really rock m8.
I was very doubfull that this would work. I have tried everything else people has suggested to no avail.
BUT I thought I have nothing to lose in trying you suggestion.
And it worked. It really worked.
Thank you very much.

Sorry for what am i going to say, maybe i did not get things clear...
How on earth can you solder the black connector both on the main motherboard and on the audio daughter board? Am just asking cause my magician had a broken earpiece and when i open it to replace it the phone died. Strange thing is that when i remove the storage card it comes alive again but no sound from the earpiece. So this solution is great although i had to make the question just to know how to handle things.
Thanks guys
Got it guys, the one connector on the main board was detached completeley and got stuck into the other. That is why i thought that it was one piece.
Man , i said to myself how come these people got it soldered , they must all have personal nano robots lol
Update:
Burned the small black connector tha sits on the main rboard
Any chance for someone to know what sort of PCB is this so i can purchase one?

Firts of anything sorry for my inglish but i´m portuguese and my inglish is a litle rusty.
I known there are a lot of people whith this problem and i had to. I tried a lot of things and i find a solution. The major problem of the this is that the black conector don´t conect very well whith audio bord, and i do a trick, so i thake a litle peace of cotton roll in powertape (like one that is on back of keybord) and a put it as way that when e close it make pressure in de audio border conector(in left of earpiece) agaist de front cover.
I hope I can help
enduromen

i have the same problem, and i will try to do as instructed. if it succeed everyone have a drink on me

Hello.
I have the same problem ina Qtek s100 but , like I dont know very well how to do look for the hardware piece that you send me the picture file because i cannot download it from XDA, it dont appear. If you send me to [email protected] I will be gratefull.
Thank you

help! no sound

hi
i have a cingular 8525. i have no sound out of the loudspeaker and when i connect a USB headset i dont have sound either. i replaced the speaker thinking that it was that if anyone could please help me.
thanks
brandon

djstimpy said:
hi
i have a cingular 8525. i have no sound out of the loudspeaker and when i connect a USB headset i dont have sound either. i replaced the speaker thinking that it was that if anyone could please help me.
thanks
brandon
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Welcome to XDA-Dev
Not enough info given.
Is there any sound at all out of wither speaker for any function whetjher it be phone / notifications etc etc.
Did you ever have any sound and if so when and how did it stop.
Have you done a HARD reset or not
Did you flash a new ROM / install a new programme and so on
Mike

i get sound out of the head speaker when calling but when i change over to loudspeaker it doesnt work. well i bought it used n it had this problem. i have done a load of hard resets and ive changed the rom so many times but nothing has yet worked.

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i get sound out of the head speaker when calling but when i change over to loudspeaker it doesnt work. well i bought it used n it had this problem. i have done a load of hard resets and ive changed the rom so many times but nothing has yet worked.
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Hi
Well I just looked at the board again (it's been a while). Unfortunately, in my view, it is not possible to work on the speaker circuit other than in very crude fashion. The board is multi layer and hence you cannot trace the connections easily, if at all without a diagram. Checking circuit integrity is virtuallty impossible without proper test equipment. Even repair shops won't bother - they will just get a new board. Another frustration is that it is very difficult to work on the circuit whilst it is switched on.
So after that ramble, I'm afraid if you have checked the new speaker and it's connector block then there's not much else you can do. It is possible that part of the circuit is blown, possible through a dodgy mini usb connection!
I would certainly believe it to be hardware if you've done hard resets and tried different ROMS. In fact any ROM should work.
Mike

i was afraid of that =( well i guess i got screwed on that part thanks for the info.

Tytn mute, Help needed

First of all Hi to the whole community by a new noob member.
I upgraded to WM6 thanx to you 2 weeks ago.
Now the problem :
My Tytn is mute.
No sound at all.
No ringing, no playing, no sound at all.
Can someone help me?
It worked fine till yesterday.
It has not been hitted.
I tried Soft and Hard reset, same problem.
It seems an hardware problem (I thought it was a SW problem before hard reset)
Olipro and WM6 Htc version (Italian) on board.

devilman said:
First of all Hi to the whole community by a new noob member.
I upgraded to WM6 thanx to you 2 weeks ago.
Now the problem :
My Tytn is mute.
No sound at all.
No ringing, no playing, no sound at all.
Can someone help me?
It worked fine till yesterday.
It has not been hitted.
I tried Soft and Hard reset, same problem.
It seems an hardware problem (I thought it was a SW problem before hard reset)
Olipro and WM6 Htc version (Italian) on board.
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Do you get in-call sound?
Mike

no, no sound at all.
No ringing when i receive a call, no sound when playing back videos or songs, no music on games, no system sounds... MUTE
It seems something connected with the speakers, but the really strange thing is it worked till yesterday...

devilman said:
no, no sound at all.
No ringing when i receive a call, no sound when playing back videos or songs, no music on games, no system sounds... MUTE
It seems something connected with the speakers, but the really strange thing is it worked till yesterday...
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What I'm trying to get at is, is it just the rear speaker or the front earpiece as well? The things you mention use the rear speaker. If you dial your Hermes from another phone and pick up can you hear sound through the earpiece speaker?
Mike

yes, it's only the rear speker.
The earspeaker works fine.

devilman said:
yes, it's only the rear speker.
The earspeaker works fine.
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Ok. With luck it's just the push on connector for the speaker that's come loose. Not uncommon. If you are not worried about the warranty then see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1376254&postcount=2
Mike

first of all thanx a lot for tour help.
2 more questions :
1) the phone is 3 weeks old : do tou think the problem could be the one you mention with a new cell like mine?
2) The phone is under warranty (i dont have problems opening things ) Do you think it is better to bring it to an assistance centre or not?

devilman said:
first of all thanx a lot for tour help.
2 more questions :
1) the phone is 3 weeks old : do tou think the problem could be the one you mention with a new cell like mine?
2) The phone is under warranty (i dont have problems opening things ) Do you think it is better to bring it to an assistance centre or not?
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If it's only 3 weeks old then I would certainly get it checked under warranty. IF it's the connector then it might not have been firmly pushed on from the start. If the speaker is blown then definitely go for warranty as the speaker is not easy to get a hold of.
So although it's an easy fix just remove the back and you see the connector, it is too much to risk your warranty if it turns out to be more serious! Only problem may be returning the ROM to an acceptable one before getting a repair.
Mike

yes, this could be a problem.
I hope they will not make objection for WM6 (it's the HTC official relaease) but i think i shiul reinstalla the old bootloader, am i wrong?
is it possible ? where do i find it here ?
I'd really like to make it by myself, the problem, i think, is that the little label "void" has to broken and with it the warranty, hasn't it?
Where can i find an How TO disassemble the Tytn?
Again, thank you very much.

Loudspeaker no longer working

I've got a bit of a problem with my hermes. For quite a long while now the speakers have just not been working. The speaker for the phone works but the ringer and loudspeaker don't work. Initially after a soft reset it would work for about half an hour again and then stop working.
I don't think it's software related as I have flashed my phone a couple of times since it started.
If anyone could help me out with this at all I would be incredibly grateful as it is intensely annoying not being able to hear calls coming in.
Thanks,
Stuart

I had a similar problems with the speaker. It was because there is a cable from the speak to the mainboard that can become disconnected. I dropped my phone and the connector became lose. If you take you keyboard part of the phone apart you will see the small cable running from the speak to a port on the board, just reconnect it and it should work.

Tim is right. Do a search and it will lead you to a thread with pics so you can see how to fix it. It's a simple repair. I've had to do it twice on mine in a year.

Thanks a lot guys.
I'll try and find that.