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Hi, I'm hoping to get the new Windows Mobile 5 device dubbed the HTC Universal, AKA o2 xda Exec.
TomTom tell me TomTom Navigator 5 is NOT compatible with it.
www.mobilefun.co.uk state that it is compatible.
Some people on forums say they have 5.1 working with the device.
Other people state the Bluetooth won't lock in.
Does anyone here know the truth?
Yes it will work
It works. I use TT 5.1 about every day (via a bluetooth receiver). Here's the instructions to install the program.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28171&highlight=
Go about half way down.
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
Hope this helps.
Cool, thanks!
And finally... I assume the Universal can support 2 simultaneous bluetooth connections? E.g. can I use TomTom with the bluetooth GPS at the same time as speaking on a bluetooth car kit?
To keep things simple
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
Received my T-Mobile UK MDA PRO today. I can confirm that TomTom 5.1 DOES work great on it with any bluetooth GPS device, although it was a few hours before I stumbled upon a thread in this forum which had instructions on how to get it working
jasjar works fine with tt5.1 and can connect at same time with gps,headset and many bluetooth devices
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mikeycollins13 said:
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
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Yes it does. I have 5.0 running on my JASJAR now. Haven't upgraded to 5.1 yet in case it breaks something.
just replace the tomtom navigator.exe with the 5.1 version, all done.
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
Re: How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
mikeycollins13 said:
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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It does work, if you follow the guide in this thread exactly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
However, I had to use COM4 instead of COM0.
I also had a problem where I connected everything to the right COM port, could see TomTom accessing the GPS device by the LEDs, but still "no GPS device found!" - it seems TomTom likes your GPS device better if it's actually locked onto a signal (so go outside!), give all this a try
...talking of TTN5....
Has anyone had any success getting TT working with the Wired GPS mouse? Is there a way to connect it to the Exec...?(mini USB to serial connector?)
If the 2 can be physically connected, does the software see it/connect up properly?
TIA
cheers
Paul
FYI, I emailed TOMTOM about the installer crashing, and guess what they said. "TOMTOM 5 is not supported on the IMATE JasJar."
What a load of cobblers. It works perfectly well if you install it using the cab files. TOMTOM support is the biggest load of s**t I have ever come across.
JJ works fine with the following:
1) Navigon MN 5
2) TT 5.1
3) OnCourse Navigator
4) iGuidance
These have been tried and tested.
Just cause it's not supported it doesn't mean they don't think it'll work. it just means that they won't help you fix it if it goes wrong becuase they have not tested on that platform. always worth a try regardless of what the vendor or devlopers say!
Another MDA Pro with TT5
I just got an MDA Pro a couple of weeks ago, and being the fool I am, bought a copy of Tom Tom 5 from Fleabay (doh!).
On receipt, I could not get the software to load from my PC, and when trying to copy over the cab files manually, the ttn.cab file will not load on the PDA. On closer inspection, this has got something to do with 'Bekonl' so appers I have wasted some money on cracked software that does not work.
Is this right? Or if I can obtain an alternative ttn.cab file, will it load, if so will it be locked? I was just looking for a reasonable low priced SatNav solution - but this is proving to be harder than I thought!
For those of you coming from a WM2003 device you can simply install TomTom on a memory card on that. Take the memory card out and put in Universal. It works. That's it.
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
Tuscan said:
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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If the ttn cab fails to install try this;
uninstall all tomtom entries from remove programs.
Remove sd card from device
install gps.cab
soft reset (this is the important bit)
install ttn.cab
JJ
JJ works fine with Oziexplorer, Tomtom5x
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I know that Garmin said that there GPS 10 is not compatible with 9100.
But I manage to make some settings so i could pair the units together.
Only one problem.. when I try to install basic map and other maps my computer wont find the device.
It says that the unit is not connected...
My Qtek S100 workes directly.. but I have just upgraded to 9100 and would like to get it to work..
Any suggestions?
Not much for help here with me, buddy.
I found that most of the gps software I had tried would not allow me to use my BT GPS...finally, Pocket Streets allowed me to set the com port to what I was able to set as the outgoing port on the 9100...it works fine....
I have a lot of useless mapping software now, and Pocket Streets isn't all that I would hope, but it will do for now...
I've heard rumors, on here, I think that TomTom will work, but I don't have that kind of money...
If you can get them to pair, that's great, but the software you use will need to be able to see the GPS at the outgoing port that you create on the 9100...
hope this helps a little.
im having a nightmare!!! after reading through hundreds of forums to get tomtom 5 on the xda mini s i finally manged to install tomtom 5.21 on my device but now i have a problem, a couple of forums advised to just install 5.21 not version 5 (not compatible with wm5). 5.21 installs perfectly, i have all the maps and voices, but now as i have obtained the tomtom 5.21 update when i get past the voice section it tells me to enter a product code, i only have a copy of tomtom 5 so i havent got a product code. is there anyway round this????? ive tried a crack 5.21 but it just tells me when i try to install it on my device "tomtom failed to start"
anyone got any step by step suggestions its driving me crazy!!!!
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im having a nightmare!!! after reading through hundreds of forums to get tomtom 5 on the xda mini s i finally manged to install tomtom 5.21 on my device but now i have a problem, a couple of forums advised to just install 5.21 not version 5 (not compatible with wm5). 5.21 installs perfectly, i have all the maps and voices, but now as i have obtained the tomtom 5.21 update when i get past the voice section it tells me to enter a product code, i only have a copy of tomtom 5 so i havent got a product code. is there anyway round this????? ive tried a crack 5.21 but it just tells me when i try to install it on my device "tomtom failed to start"
anyone got any step by step suggestions its driving me crazy!!!!
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I do not think you will find a hack for this at the moment...
Just use your original product code, but that is just a beginning of nightmares. Bluetooth does not work with GPS devices. That is a present from Microsoft. You would think with new version compatibility would improve. Well, let's just wait for M-soft updates.
@peralex:
That's complete nonsense!
You just need to pair the wizard with the gps, assign a new outgoing port (COM6 by default) DO NOT CHECK THE SECURE CONNECTION CHECKBOX!
Turn off the wizard, turn it on, now start TTN5.21 WITHOUT manually enabling BT. (TTN enables it for you) Then select 'other BT GPS' on COM6 and voila, wait for a fix and navigate away.
@Topicstarter
Your TTN5 product key should work with 5.21.
well thats the thing i need a crack so i dont have to enter a product code, because the ttn5 is a copy i dont have a product code!
Wow, I did not know that you have to go through the whole voodoo ritual to enable simple GPS, but thanks, I will try it.
peralex said:
Wow, I did not know that you have to go through the whole voodoo ritual to enable simple GPS, but thanks, I will try it.
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Remember to stick a needle in your styrofoam dummy gps receiver before switching the real thing on!
By word simple I did not mean "styrofoam" and from respect to this forum I am not going into BS with you MoFo.
I've been using the Atom since early Jan and TomTom 5.21 is the program thats not working, it's also a program that I really badly need.
But I am having big problems trying to get it to work
I've got a crack version and it installs fine but when it comes to selecting a voice.. it always freezes and goes no further.
I've been trying for days and nights but i'm getting nowhere
Can someone please help or advise me!!
Many thanks.
peralex said:
By word simple I did not mean "styrofoam" and from respect to this forum I am not going into BS with you MoFo.
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Dude, keep your shirt on. Try reading a post for a change before losing the temper and you would have noticed the trailing smiley in my post.
Invisible Sense said:
I've been using the Atom since early Jan and TomTom 5.21 is the program thats not working, it's also a program that I really badly need.
But I am having big problems trying to get it to work
I've got a crack version and it installs fine but when it comes to selecting a voice.. it always freezes and goes no further.
I've been trying for days and nights but i'm getting nowhere
Can someone please help or advise me!!
Many thanks.
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Writing a little step by step guide for a working TTN 5.21 installation, I'll post it in about 3 or 4 hours, I'm at work now... I'll try and answer all PM's as well by then.
TTN 5.21 on wizard (originally SD install of 5.0):
- Insert Memorycard into PPC and ,in case of WM5, cancel installation.
- Connect PPC to PC and run the 5.21 update (available on tomtom.com)
- When installed, activate (or "activate" :wink: )
Use GPS instruction above and navigate away. Easy, isn't it?
If it's not working, post it, I'll see if I can help.[/b]
i installed tomtom 5.21 on sd card, then start the 4 (i think) cab files from folder 2577, place then on device. you will have to do a reset with one of the files, it tells u when. then goto programs and run tomtom. thats it. been working all day no probs, just need a phone that works now.?
dont forget the blue tooth peairing, like u have been told above.
there are many guides on TTN5 on WM5 on this forum, i have read & added to some of them.
* 5.21 IS Version 5, so your version 5 key should work fine
* Bluetooth should be paired, open a port, then add in TTN as "other BT GPS on port XX"
* If TTN hangs when you start do a google for tomtom5 currentmap.dat (or search this forum)
* you DO NOT need to install 5.0 then upgrade
* you CAN just install the 4 CAB files direct to your PDA without using a PC
FOR THE PPL THAT NEED THAT"""FILE"""" TO MAKE IT WORK
email me [email protected] and il email it to you
I thought i should post in this thread being as tho I had loads of problems getting thins to work on my wizard but now it's done it works a treat. Here's how i did it:
1. Installed the 4 .cab files from the "2577" folder into the root of my mini s
2. coped the GB map onto my mini sd card
3. updated to 5.21 (i've read that you dont have to install version 5 first but i did and it work for me). To update i installed the 2 .cabs files
4. soft reset
5. create a "tomtom" folder and put it in "my documents"
6. in the "tomtom" folder put your voice files that you want to use also make sure that the "currant map" file is in there
7. pair your gps receiver with your mini s. Create outgoing port 6 then tick the serial port box.
8. start tomtom and setup etc choose "other gps unit" and select port 6
thats it it worked for me. tomtom will switch on your bluetooth automatically. it took me a while but it's simple once your've done it. I'ce hard reset me mini s a couple of times now and reinstalled tomtom and it's worked no problems.
cheers
I am having major problems with TT5 and my mini s. I have tried everything suggested and can get TT5 working but not 5.1 or 5.2 (just freezes when selecting a voice). However TT doesn't see my bluetooth gps. COM6 just doesn't appear in the list of COM ports available in the TT gps setup.
Any ideas?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I had the same problem but then did the following:
1. On your desktop, launch Notepad.
2. Type & \Storage Card\XXXXXX_map\ (don't forget to add the final back slash and have a space between the "&" and the first backslash. (XXXX = the name of your map directory on ur SD card)
3. Save the file as CurrentMap.dat. Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
4. Create a folder on your KJam \My Documents\TomTom
5. Copy your newly created CurrentMap.dat file from your desktop into \My Documents\TomTom on your wizard
Soft reset - hopefully it now works!
thanks for all,
finally, i had got it working.
BUT what folder i can Delete after all working?
thanks
Hi all. I’m having a real problem with my xda mini s and Bluetooth. After reading through the advice her got it working with Tomtom turning on Bluetooth and connecting to the receiver. After the mini s was turned off overnight Tomtom wouldn’t turn on Bluetooth, and turning it on manually was no good, as Tomtom wouldn’t connect to the receiver (see earlier post).
After much messing around did a hard reset and reinstall and all was fine, until the next day, when after the mini s was turned off overnight Tomtom wouldn’t turn on Bluetooth, and turning it on manually was no good Etc Etc!!
Does anyone know what is going on as I don’t want to have to do a reinstall ever morning!! Should I have kept my XDA2?
Hope you can help, as I don’t have much hair left as it is.
I've been just about everywhere trying to get an answer to this, but no joy so far. I have just bought an O2 XDA Mini S PDA (ROM 2.21.4.1 WWE) running Windows Mobile 5 and a BT77 GPS receiver from Ebay. The problem is I can't get them to pair via bluetooth - this is what happens:
1. the XDA detects "BT GPS" (with a question mark icon)
2. the setup process invites me to select this device
3. I am asked for the "0000" access code
4. I then select "Serial Port" service (the only option)
5. Moving on to COM Ports tab - I create a new Outgoing Port and allocate it to COM 6 or 7 (I've tried both)
I've tried, methodically, every permutation available via the setup facility(secure/insecure pairing via check box, deletion and reset of XDA and GPS in between each try, COM 6/COM 7, etc.), but the GPS device does not pair (i.e. GPS BT indicator continues to flash every 3 seconds or so).
I know that the BT77 is OK because I've had it working nicely in Autoroute 2005 with a BT dongle in my laptop. Incidentally, I have TomTom Navigator 5.21 installed on the XDA.
I've scoured the online forums for an answer to what seems to be not an uncommon problem, but I can't find one. Is there perhaps a utility to fix this or a registry setting which can be changed maybe - I'm completely stumped!!! Can anyone help.............please?
Dave
i am having the same problem... tried installing BTH but that program does not even bother to show up
:?:
I guess the com 6/7 is unavailable. In my o2 mini with windows mobile 2003, i use com8 to pair, and working perfect. Try some software, such as gps viewer, to indicate the available com.
okay.. thanks.. will try now
sorted!!
I've found out how to fix this, but I had to buy GPSDash to do it (you may not if you can get a free version):
To get XDA to pair with BT77 via bluetooth -
1. use XDA bluetooth settings to set "BT GPS" to use COM7 - the BT77 will not pair by doing this;
2. install GPSDash2 (I did it by copying CAB file to memory card touching it with stylus in File Explorer or Total Commander 2 or and change settings of GPSDash to use COM7 (this is a handy app, but it's really
there to enable TomTom to find BT77 - not sure HOW it works, but who cares!!);
3. Run TomTom and configure GPS settings to use "Other GPS" and COM0;
4. find navigator.cfg (installed in \Program Files\Navigator) and copy it to PC;
5. using Ultraedit (hex editor),change 0 in "COM0" to 7 and then overwrite navigator.cfg on phone with
new version;
6. Run TomTom - it should pair with the BT77
Like I said, I bought a copy of GPSDash for a few quid - it's a nice little app to have for SatNav anyway, but you might be able to get a trial version or something - you don't have to run it or have it sat in memory for the GPS to pair, but it being there makes all the difference!!
Hope this sorts it for you
D
i, as an electronics engineer, have experienced that if anything can go wrong it will go wrong. thats exactly what happened with my installation of ttn5 n pairing of bt77.
now i can proudly say that i have done it and its working fine except for the POIs which i deleted myself. anyway, while pairing the bt77, i just chose factory reset for ttn5 and it detected the device automatically. but i think the Bluetooth tools are really handy by thus german dude. i havent tried but i think he will answer questions in english, supposedly.
i think i will pass on my knowledge to others so .... ask! 8)
n yea.. thanks to tomtom, i hope i never get lost again :lol:
still cant get it
i have followed instructions above but still no luck
i have gpsdash2 working great but tom tom wil still not pick up my bluetooth gps....
PLEASE HELP!!!
Have spent a long time trying to get my tomtom5 navigator working on my mda and now have it all going lovely - however I cant get my bluetooth reciever to be seen by tomtom. It is one of the BT-77 one that you see loads of on Ebay - did used to have it working with my old phone but not this one?
Any ideas - cant give up now!
Thanks
ROger
I have the same problem with an xdalls with a BT338 bluetooth gps.
I can get it to pair up. Tomtom5 does not see it though. Been thru all the settings that i can thing of.... i have the blue light flashing fast and then just logs off.
Paul
I have the BT-77 (also from ebay) and it works perfectly with the TomTom 5.21 software...
I had trouble with it initially too- it's to do with setting the right COM ports.
To get things working, I downloaded and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools:
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ Download version 1.0.1.2
Delete any existing pair that you may have with the GPS receiver...
Re-pair the device with the above software installed, and now you will get an iconic menu, use the serial port option and select an available COM port. Complete pairing procedure as per on screen instruction.
Now start up TomTom and go to GPS options in preferences- select 'other bluetooth device' and now you should see the something called 'BT on COMx' x being the port you assigned earlier of course. Complete configuration.
Wait for the receiver to get a fix and you should be ready to go.
I've used the Pocket Bluetooth Tools many times on different variants of the Magician and has work everytime.
Hi
thanks for the info - but still nothing
cant cope anymore
will buy a whole new system i think!
Thanks anyway
Roger
HELLO!
Well at last it works - not really sure why?
But I dont care it works!
thanks for the help
Roger
Hi!
Just registered to try and find out how to get my MDA II working with a bluetooth GPS and I find this thread. Thank you for the link to the bluetooth tools it seems to have worked a treat.
Cool. Glad it is working for you guys.
The software also works well with using Bluetooth and ActiveSync.