This is getting frustrating. I rooted my hero and installed the Damagecontrol 2.0.8.1 ROM specifically because I figured that 2.1 fixes the issue with sending mail via Exchange. The phone still does not send mail. It at least gives an error message, but the message is completely devoid of any real info.
Does anyone have any way to get the phone to send email? I can't believe that this has not been fixed in a whole year.
-Randy
Did a search on this forums only and came up with 7 threads.
Mail Exchange
I didn't read any as I don't use exchange.
But you might want to start there.
If that isn't enough, try search the whole of CDMA.
Thanks,
Bubba.
P.S. might try posting in Damagecontrol dev thread also.
None of those threads mention anything about the sending issue.
I can't believe no one else is using exchange sync.
-Randy
zesta said:
None of those threads mention anything about the sending issue.
I can't believe no one else is using exchange sync.
-Randy
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I am using exchange on Fresh 2.0d with no issues. My exchange server is running exchange 2003.
I have mail and contacts sync'd through exchange.
I'm having the same issue on my Exchange server. It has to do with plain text, if you reply to an email I bet it works. You're probably running something like Mail Marshal which is blocking the email. After you've sent a new email check the sent on your Outlook, and you'll see it's there. It's this leak because it worked fine for me on 1.5
It has to be your specific exchange server setup. I'm using Exchange Server 2007 via ExchangeMyMail and no issues.
I use both a 2003 server and a 2007 server and I have no issues sending or anything. Biggest issue I have is that GAL doesn't come to the phone, I have to search to find names instead of browsing a list.
I agree it has to be your particular setting. Have you tried checking/unchecking the ssl connection option? I think I recall reading that you could receive but not send depending on that option and how your server ia setup.
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I have had no problems with the 1.5 or 2.1 software in connecting to my exchange server. What does your mail administrator say? They could easily pull the server log files to see what is going on.
I am the mail administrator
Additional research shows that it is a problem specifically with HTC devices. They are not properly implementing the protocol.
The app is setting the "Content-Transfer-Encoding" to "utf-8" which is invalid.
My mail server is Zimbra 6.x, which uses the Exchange 2003 protocols. My guess is that the true Microsoft servers either have specific support for the non-compliant HTC devices, or just happen to work because Microsoft isn't closely following their own standards (which happens more than one would think).
Looks like there is an unofficial patch to work around this specific issue.
Maybe some enterprising person can fix HTC's buggy app for them and include it in a custom ROM. I really like the HTC mail app otherwise.
-Randy
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I am the mail administrator
Additional research shows that it is a problem specifically with HTC devices. They are not properly implementing the protocol.
The app is setting the "Content-Transfer-Encoding" to "utf-8" which is invalid.
My mail server is Zimbra 6.x, which uses the Exchange 2003 protocols. My guess is that the true Microsoft servers either have specific support for the non-compliant HTC devices, or just happen to work because Microsoft isn't closely following their own standards (which happens more than one would think).
Looks like there is an unofficial patch to work around this specific issue.
Maybe some enterprising person can fix HTC's buggy app for them and include it in a custom ROM. I really like the HTC mail app otherwise.
-Randy
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do you have access to this unofficial patch. I'd like to try it out.
From what I've learned, this isn't specific to HTC, it's an Android thing. There was only partial support for security policies in 1.5 and now more complete support in 2.1. I've been successfully sending/receiving Exchange emails, contacts, and calendar items (sending and accepting) in both 1.5 and 2.1.
In 1.5 I had to have the Exchange admin change the mobile device support setting to allow all devices. In 2.1 he was able to change it back and my Hero then enforced a security policy that made me enter a PIN every time I unlocked my phone.
There were some general Android-specific issues before, but this is specific to HTC's broken mail application.
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do you have access to this unofficial patch. I'd like to try it out.
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http://bugzilla.zimbra.com/show_bug.cgi?id=41145
All of the info and the patched file is there.
I am the Exchange 2007 admin here and I've never had an issue with my phone, on 1.5 or on 2.1 now. Both Damage's and the Fresh roms work fine to sync mail, contacts, and calendar items. I can send and receive just fine.
The global address list will not show up as a list, you will always have to search. That's the way it is implemented in OWA.
I would think that if you are not using Exchange Server, but someone else's implementation, it's not HTC that's at fault... It's more than likely the faulty implementation of the exchange clone.
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I am the Exchange 2007 admin here and I've never had an issue with my phone, on 1.5 or on 2.1 now. Both Damage's and the Fresh roms work fine to sync mail, contacts, and calendar items. I can send and receive just fine.
The global address list will not show up as a list, you will always have to search. That's the way it is implemented in OWA.
I would think that if you are not using Exchange Server, but someone else's implementation, it's not HTC that's at fault... It's more than likely the faulty implementation of the exchange clone.
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I am using an Exchange Server that patch above isn't something I can use. I can receive emails, reply and forward but here's the zinger. when I compose it sends and the program known as mail marshal see's the email and stops it from sending. But when I go to my computer look in the sent folder the email shows up immediately. We've set Mail marshal to low and apparently the issue is with the Mail Format, and since I'm on 2003 the mail app doesn't let me change this option. I used Touchdown to see if this was the case, and BINGO I was able to compose without issue. Now I don't like the functionality of touchdown very much so I refuse to use it. Do you guys know of a workaround to change the mail format that's grayed out in the settings?
HTC's implementation is obviously wrong, as indicated by the details that have already been listed.
It looks like Exchange Server is either not checking for valid message headers (which doesn't surprise me), or is specifically allowing the invalid Content-Transfer-Encoding header.
zesta said:
HTC's implementation is obviously wrong, as indicated by the details that have already been listed.
It looks like Exchange Server is either not checking for valid message headers (which doesn't surprise me), or is specifically allowing the invalid Content-Transfer-Encoding header.
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I see a different error, but my error is with MailMarshal. Does anyone deal with MailMarshal?
I ran into this issue at work with MailMarshal. You need to add an exception into MailMarshal to allow incorrect types through.
I did this a few months ago so I don't remember off the top of my head exactly where the change was made. (Not at work right now)
I'll let you know if I remember.
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I see a different error, but my error is with MailMarshal. Does anyone deal with MailMarshal?
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This is what I had to do to get it working.
sorry...can't post links yet.
Go to mailmarshal site: m86security dot com
click on support and search for Q10166.
Read that article, it should help if you want to implement it.
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This is what I had to do to get it working.
sorry...can't post links yet.
Go to mailmarshal site: m86security dot com
click on support and search for Q10166.
Read that article, it should help if you want to implement it.
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Thanks I'll do this when I get to work tomorrow.
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I'm not sure if this is the right topic, or if this belongs in the 'Upgrades' topic, but here it is nonetheless...
First, thanks to all participants of this forum; I have found a wealth of useful info here!!
I recently upgraded my XDA to a "4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US" ROM cooked at Yorch's kitchen, and everything seems to work great, however, I cannot take advantage of Exchange 2003's "up-to-date" SMS notifications to trigger ActiveSync.
From the research I've done into enabling this functionality, it seems that the ActiveSync app on my XDA does not include the necessary options; specifically, the 'Mobile Schedule' config drop downs are missing the "after new items are received" (or something like that) options. Also, there is supposed to be a "Device Address" text box on the Server tab which allows you to input your SMS address.
Has anyone had any experience with resolving this issue?
Many thanks,
Daniel
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Hey Daniel,
I have it working over here. You have to get your PPC syncing with the server first. Once you sync then you should get prompted for syncing only when there are new messages. If you get this and choose yes then it will ask for the mobile address. If everything's upgraded correctly and you have synced one time then you should be able to go into activcesync and also choose this option. The only other thing is make sure in AD that you have your account specified to allow Notifications.
Andy
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I'm not sure if this is the right topic, or if this belongs in the 'Upgrades' topic, but here it is nonetheless...
First, thanks to all participants of this forum; I have found a wealth of useful info here!!
I recently upgraded my XDA to a "4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US" ROM cooked at Yorch's kitchen, and everything seems to work great, however, I cannot take advantage of Exchange 2003's "up-to-date" SMS notifications to trigger ActiveSync.
From the research I've done into enabling this functionality, it seems that the ActiveSync app on my XDA does not include the necessary options; specifically, the 'Mobile Schedule' config drop downs are missing the "after new items are received" (or something like that) options. Also, there is supposed to be a "Device Address" text box on the Server tab which allows you to input your SMS address.
Has anyone had any experience with resolving this issue?
Many thanks,
Daniel
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Hey Daniel,
I have it working over here. You have to get your PPC syncing with the server first. Once you sync then you should get prompted for syncing only when there are new messages. If you get this and choose yes then it will ask for the mobile address. If everything's upgraded correctly and you have synced one time then you should be able to go into activcesync and also choose this option. The only other thing is make sure in AD that you have your account specified to allow Notifications.
Andy
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Thanks for the reply, Andy. I can successfully sync manually (or using the 'every 5 min.', etc. scheduled sync), and my account has both user-initiated synchronization and up-to-date notifications enabled, but I never receive a prompt to sync only when there are new messages, nor do those options appear in ActiveSync.
I did not update my Radio Stack...still 6.18; could this functionality be tied to the newer Radio Stack?
If you or anyone else has any other ideas, I would greatly appreciate it!
Regards,
Daniel
In Active Directory, does the user's account have up-to-date notifications enabled? You will need the newer radio stack for it to work 100% correctly as you are supposed to have the always on gprs in order for it to function correctly.
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In Active Directory, does the user's account have up-to-date notifications enabled? You will need the newer radio stack for it to work 100% correctly as you are supposed to have the always on gprs in order for it to function correctly.
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Yes, the user's account does have up-to-date notification enabled in AD. I think I understand what you are saying regarding the radio stack, but I believe this would hinder the device's attempt to syncronize after receiving the SMS notification, which it doesn't appear is happening since I can't even set the option to sync when new items arrive...does that sound right?
Regarding the Radio Stack Upgrade, it sounds like it can be far more dangerous than the ROM upgrade, plus there seems to be some uncertainty as to whether or not the official T-Mobile upgrade will work once the Radio Stack has been "unofficially" upgraded...is this correct?
Thanks again for your assistance!!
Daniel
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Yes, the user's account does have up-to-date notification enabled in AD. I think I understand what you are saying regarding the radio stack, but I believe this would hinder the device's attempt to syncronize after receiving the SMS notification, which it doesn't appear is happening since I can't even set the option to sync when new items arrive...does that sound right?
Regarding the Radio Stack Upgrade, it sounds like it can be far more dangerous than the ROM upgrade, plus there seems to be some uncertainty as to whether or not the official T-Mobile upgrade will work once the Radio Stack has been "unofficially" upgraded...is this correct?
Thanks again for your assistance!!
Daniel
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Yeah there is some uncertainty but I'm sure when it comes out that there will be someone to figure out how to to it. No it won't hinder it. What is puzzling me is that you don't even have the option to set it to update email upon new emails. You should have an option in there for it once you sync with the Exchange 2003 box. Have you sync'ed wirelessly or are you doing all this via a sync cable?
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Yeah there is some uncertainty but I'm sure when it comes out that there will be someone to figure out how to to it. No it won't hinder it. What is puzzling me is that you don't even have the option to set it to update email upon new emails. You should have an option in there for it once you sync with the Exchange 2003 box. Have you sync'ed wirelessly or are you doing all this via a sync cable?
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That's what is puzzling me, too...
I can sync with the server both wirelessly and via the sync cable.
I've also gone over the Exchange Deployment guides to make sure everything is set up properly on my Exchange server & my ISA (firewall) server, and everything appears to be correct.
Thanks again,
Daniel
Are you connecting directly to the exchange server or are you going through a front-end exchange server? And you still don't have on the schedule tab a when new messages arrive? What version of activesync are you using when syncing via cable? Is it 3.7 or greater?
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Are you connecting directly to the exchange server or are you going through a front-end exchange server? And you still don't have on the schedule tab a when new messages arrive? What version of activesync are you using when syncing via cable? Is it 3.7 or greater?
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I am connecting directly to the Exchange server (with IIS installed), and I still don't have the "when new items arrive" option on the schedule tab, nor the "Device Address" text box.
I am using ActiveSync 3.7.1...I just downloaded it again from MS yesterday, just in case, and re-installed it, but it made no difference.
Thanks,
Daniel
Any errors in the event log on the exchange server? I would go into system manager and change the logging level on the msexchangeactivesync stuff to log maximum. Then sync again and see what it logs.
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Any errors in the event log on the exchange server? I would go into system manager and change the logging level on the msexchangeactivesync stuff to log maximum. Then sync again and see what it logs.
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Unfortunately, I've already tried that. The only messages being logged on the server are:
Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync has been loaded: Process ID: [1720].
OMA Categorizer succesfully initialized.
And those are after a re-boot. Nothing logs when I synchronize successfully after initiating the sync from my XDA.
Thanks for your help; I really do appreciate it...any more ideas are welcome!!
Regards,
Daniel
I also had this issue and could not get it to work. Microsoft support told me that auto notification of emails required a smartphone and just having Exchange 2003 and Mobile 2003 would not do it.
Well I have Mobile 2003 and Exchange 2003 and it will work. I'm checking to see if I can find anymore options that would keep you from getting the phone to do like it's supposed to with exchange 2003.
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Well I have Mobile 2003 and Exchange 2003 and it will work. I'm checking to see if I can find anymore options that would keep you from getting the phone to do like it's supposed to with exchange 2003.
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Ok, that's fair. It won't be the first time Microsoft support is wrong! :wink:
If you can figure out anything, please let me know.
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andygee said:
Well I have Mobile 2003 and Exchange 2003 and it will work. I'm checking to see if I can find anymore options that would keep you from getting the phone to do like it's supposed to with exchange 2003.
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Ok, that's fair. It won't be the first time Microsoft support is wrong! :wink:
If you can figure out anything, please let me know.
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Are you having the same exact problem? That your's isn't allowing you to receive notifications?
Andy
That is correct. I had Microsoft walk through my setup and verify all settings and I couldn't get notifications. After working on the problem for over two weeks with three developers from Microsoft they determined that the current code only supported the smartphones. I currently have all XDA's setup to auto synchronize with the server every 15 minutes since I don't have auto notification working.
I have the option "When new items arrive" as well. I'm using the 4.0.1 ROM with the lastest TMobile RS 6.24.01. I also just updated a friend brand new XDA to the 4.0.1 ROM but left his RS @ 6.18. When setting up his schedule I noticed that the "When new items arrive" option was not there, so I sync'ed and the options were there. Maybe the difference is in the different ROM versions?
I've got a rather unusual update on this issue. While attempting to get the up-to-date notification working with my XDA & my Exchange server, I was also getting set up with an Exchange hosting service (because I am tired of administering my own server).
I'm still waiting for them to enable my mobile access, but meanwhile I started to attempt to connect from my XDA anyway. While I haven't been able to successfully connect to the new server, this attempt did make the missing options appear in ActiveSync on my XDA. Tonight, I switched back to my own server, and now (with no server changes, mind you), the options are still there & my up-to-date notifications are working!!
The only thing that I can think of that might have caused this issue is my ISA Server. When I synched with the Exchange server for the 1st time, a required registry entry on the ISA Server to enable up-to-date notifications had not been created. After researching the issue, I added the entry and bounced both the ISA Server & the Exchange Server. Of course, the missing options still did not appear in ActiveSync, so my guess is that maybe something was cached from my initial synchronization that didn't reset until I attempted to connect to a different server.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and input; it is greatly appreciated.
Now if someone can tell me where to get that 4.0.1 ROM, I'll be set... :lol:
Regards,
Daniel
I had the same issue
Hi,
unfortunately I didn't notice this thread before, I had the same problem.
After several hours of research I got the problem solved by totally deactivating Exchange Server synchronization, deleting all the sync folders in the Exchange store (via WebDAV), deleting the old and creating a new partnership with ActiveSync and activating server snyc then again.
Don't know which of these actions corrected the problem but there seems to be a bug in Exchange that it doesn't update the Up-To-Date-Notification settings correctly (without newly setting up the synchronization).
Best,
jeff
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jeffxyz12 said:
Hi,
unfortunately I didn't notice this thread before, I had the same problem.
After several hours of research I got the problem solved by totally deactivating Exchange Server synchronization, deleting all the sync folders in the Exchange store (via WebDAV), deleting the old and creating a new partnership with ActiveSync and activating server snyc then again.
Don't know which of these actions corrected the problem but there seems to be a bug in Exchange that it doesn't update the Up-To-Date-Notification settings correctly (without newly setting up the synchronization).
Best,
jeff
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I'm having a problem with messages not being sent to my phone, the reason, I think, is I did a hard reset on my device and the partnership between my phone and my Exchange server is screwed up. Can you describe to me the exact process you used?
Hello,
My MDA is set up to grab my exchange email, etc over the air through activesync. When I set up the account on the MDA, the setup wizard told me that I could set the account to grab new messages as they arrive. That of course sounds great so I chose that option.
Anyway, occasionally (not always) when I receive a new message on the exchange account, I get a text message silmultaneously with the same from address and subject as the new exchange email that arrived. I assume that "directpush" works by sending out these texts to trigger an activesync. However, as I mentioned, i don't ALWAYS get these texts. Also, it appears that I occasionally get texts a day after the message arrives in my inbox and even after I know I've read and deleted the message from my MDA.
Regardless of the sporadic nature of the texts, shouldn't the MDA keep them hidden from me? It's a little frustrating having to go thru and delete all these erroneous messages.
Any suggestions as to how I can clean this mess up?
First you need to provide more information.
What Rom are you using?
Only AKU 2.x Roms support Direct Push and then you need to have the correct version of Exchange Server (I think 2k5 sp2).
Direct Push does not use SMS but rather a heartbeat via GPRS.
I believe the old version of AS with Exchange Server used SMS (1.x Roms).
Thanks for the response.
I'm using xelencin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300
I have "direct push" turned on via the comm mgr. My office uses exchange 2k3, not sure what service pack. I don't believe there is such a thing as 2k5.
I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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The thing is, it works. I get mesages delivered to my phone nearly instantly. However, my SMS box is full of useless crap and this dilutes the usefullness of SMS in general.
That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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Ok, that makes sense. I'll get a hold of the exchange admin weds and see if he can do anything for me.
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
Steven
chow
pmow said:
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
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Interesting. I removed the relationship from activesync (activesync basically now asks me to set up sync with a pc or exchange server), but I'm still getting the texts. Sometimes, I'm getting duplicate texts. They're all coming from "701" if that helps.
HALP!
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This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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Is there anyway for me to check the version of exchange as a user?
Ya, the SMS thing is a concern for me. I had to sign up for a text plan on tmobile so that I don't end up oweing a fortune at the end of the month!
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
Also, I just re set up my exchange OTA active sync. I get a "pop up" saying that I can synch as items arrive. When I go into "schedule", there's a link there to set that up which then asks for "Text messaging address for this device". Previously, I put in [email protected] which seems to work, but maybe I need to enter it differently some how?
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
I have an idea.
It appears that even the new versions of exchange have the feature "AUTD" which does the SMS message triggered update. I set up the exchange account for "auto update" 2 times now, but haven't set it up a 3rd. Is it possible that when the user configures the auto update feature, it triggers the AUTD sms messaging bit on the server? Since I've done it twice, I'm now getting two sms messages per incoming email. However, previously, when i had pocket outlook configured to handle the auto-update bit, it was concealing one of the two identical SMS's, but not the other.
I'm sure I explained this horribly, but it was worth a shot.
Not sure why I didn't notice this earlier...
I'm getting texts related to ALL of my email accounts configured on the device. This includes the exchange account mentioned earlier, but also two GMAIL accounts. For what it's worth, I set these two gmail accounts up through the tmobile set up wizard and later deleted the accounts from the device in an attempt to test things out. When the accounts were setup, they seemed to be grabbing the mail through a tmobile proxy or something instead of directly from the gmail servers.
No idea why I'm getting these messages, but this is getting crazy!
Stranger and stranger! I think that I would contact T-Mobile asap and cancel that SMS. I personally have never had any need for Texting, etc but people have different needs.
What I would start out with is to hard reset the phone after syncing it. Then I'd delete the partnership with AS. I'd setup my Exchange by installing your Exchange server's Security Certificate on your device(which you should keep on your SD card), configuring the AS on the device, never connecting to the PC. Wait a while to setup your GMail accounts, etc. ... one step at a time.
Good luck!
Steven
chow
RESOLVED!
Ok, I think I figured it out.
T-mobile apparently uses these text messages to trigger email synchs.
I logged into my tmobile account and decided to pay attention to the "t-zones" section for the first time. "Setup My E-Mail" takes you to a page that allows you to configure email accounts for your device. It also allows you to check your email for those accounts. Anyway, there's an "Alerts" section that you can configure and it appears to relate to these texts that I've been receiving. Even my exchange account was configured here and was setup to send the text messages.
Additionally, it appears that I wasn't being charged for the texts. None of them have shown up in my online bill.
I believe that ALL of this was the result of using the tmobile email setup wizard that's included on the phone xelencin's cooked rom.
Whew, I feel like I've solved a puzzle.
Good for you! Makes sense now...
I've never run that email wizard myself, always manually create the accounts.
Steven
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Getting a weird behavior on the EVO with Active Sync.
I remember using it on my Hero with my company's Exchange server a while back, and everything worked.
With the EVO I can get e-mails, push works great, but when sending an e-mail I'm running into a weird issue.
Immediately after hitting send, the phone will complain that the message could not be sent. "Unable to send e-mail" or something like that.
If I go into the Outbox I can see that the e-mail is there. The phone will flash the message every few seconds, meaning it's trying and failing.
The strange part is, the e-mails are actually going through. The first time this happened my e-mail was sent to a work distribution list 15 times before I realized what was going on and deleted the e-mail from the Outbox.
That was with stock ROM and no mods. Today I tried sending an e-mail after rooting the EVO and using Damagecontrol ROM. The issue is still there. I can reproduce the problem just by sending an e-mail, it will be in the Outbox, will go through over and over until I delete it from the Outbox.
It seems like the phone is not getting confirmation from the Exchange server (or ActiveSync rather) that the message is getting sent properly.
I'm not sure exactly how ActiveSync pushes the sent e-mails back to Exchange. It uses the same SSL connection used for push and sync, but does it put it in the Outbox and then try to sync that folder with the server and the server is supposed to delete it from the Outbox once it is sent?
The sent e-mails are showing up in my Sent Items folder, every single one, so if I got 5 copies in my test, I will find 5 sent e-mails in the Sent Items folder.
Weird
I would talk with your IT dept and find out if there are any other smartphone users having the same issue (and if so, which platform), or if yours is an isolated case. I would also try synching your Exchange mailbox with a different android device (and then a different platform) to see if you can replicate the problem; you can also try synching someone else's mailbox on your device.
I don't have a solution for you, as I've never heard of this happening on any smartphone platform.
However, start with basic troubleshooting and you should be able to narrow down the source of the problem.
I am having the same exact issue!!!! Finally someone I can relate with. I have tried everything and no other users on my Exchange server are having this problem.
I have downloaded Moxier Mail from the market and I am using that just for the email and it works fine but I would really love to get this resolved.
Someone help!!!!
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I would talk with your IT dept and find out if there are any other smartphone users having the same issue (and if so, which platform), or if yours is an isolated case. I would also try synching your Exchange mailbox with a different android device (and then a different platform) to see if you can replicate the problem; you can also try synching someone else's mailbox on your device.
I don't have a solution for you, as I've never heard of this happening on any smartphone platform.
However, start with basic troubleshooting and you should be able to narrow down the source of the problem.
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Thanks khov07. I have talked to my IT guy. I did try to configure the account on my Hero last night and got the exact same issue. Most of the users here use their iPhone's without a problem.
Now that I have found that the Hero has the same issue, I will go back to my IT guy and we'll try and see if we can find anything useful in our Exchange logs.
Since there are barely any configuration options in the e-mail client, it all probably boils down to a communication issue between the server and the client. Hopefully we'll be able to find the problem and correct it.
Edit: There's another user that has a Moment, I'm not sure if he uses ActiveSync on it, but I'll check with him to see if he has any issues.
Co-worker with the Moment can send e-mails without a problem, but he uses Moxier. So there's something going on between the HTC Mail App and the Exchange server.
OP, I would ask a co-worker if you could borrow their phone (or perhaps your IT dept has a spare for testing) that is non-Android and try synching your mailbox to that device, see if the problem resurfaces.
Finally, take a look at those Exchange logs. You may be limited, however, based on the version of Exchange your enterprise is running, i.e., 2007 vs 2003. Exchange 2007 has significant improvements in mobile device management over 2003.
khov07 said:
OP, I would ask a co-worker if you could borrow their phone (or perhaps your IT dept has a spare for testing) that is non-Android and try synching your mailbox to that device, see if the problem resurfaces.
Finally, take a look at those Exchange logs. You may be limited, however, based on the version of Exchange your enterprise is running, i.e., 2007 vs 2003. Exchange 2007 has significant improvements in mobile device management over 2003.
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That's a good idea. Would rule out a problem with my account.
We do use 2007, we could never get this running on 2003.
Thanks
OP: Let us know your progress, as someone has reported the same issue on this thread. I myself am interested in knowing the root cause.
I am still having the issue and would love a resolution.
Thanks in advance,
Well something is definitely f'd up with the ActiveSync client that HTC includes.
I have just put Froyo (EvolutionV8) on my Evo and configured my exchange account on it. I can send e-mail without any problems.
Some Exchange servers have the issue, as most users are not having any problems, but the few of us that are will probably keep having the problem. I haven't had much time to do any troubleshooting on this.
It's good to hear the the issue isn't on Froyo, but I think the HTC Mail client has some extra security features that I would like to take advantage of. I was hoping the recent update would solve the problem, but no such luck. Maybe when the 2.2 official HTC update is released it will fix the problem.
same problem here
I have the same issue on send and rcv, send usually works ok, but checking mail just goes over and over till exch server stops trying. Bugs the hell out of me, im running exch 2007 from 1and1. Would be nice to find a fix to this.
B
same issue here people, on a HTC Wildfire with 2.1 original FW.
sucks...
I have the same issue with exchange and the old touchdown. 6.2 touchdown fixed it for me. must be an exchange update that messed everything up for htc
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2.2 includes some additional security features not present in 2.1, such as PIN security enforcement.
I have noticed many ActiveSync issues can be cleared up by wiping out the synch on the device, AND wiping out the local cache on your device. I usually see issues with Droids (all three) synching to Exchange - contacts don't show up, or calendars don't populate, etc.
Also, check to see if your exchange account is synched with any other devices. I have also seen odd issues with synching when your mailbox already has a device partnership with a WinMo device. If it does, delete all of them (server-side), wipe out the account on your phone, wipe out the local cache, reboot, wait 15 minutes, and try again.
Evo's should synch just fine with Exchange.
I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.
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I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.
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It does support exchange activesync. In fact it is THE only push email technology the phone supports (both Hotmail and Gmail use EAS).
thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.
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thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.
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That means your Focus currently already supports push email from your Exchange server. What you need is to talk to you IT admin about how to configure it (you will need to connect to an external exchange server address that is accessible via internet, not your desktop Outlook) and if you are allowed to do so (some companies add additional permission policy to limit the access). A new phone doesn't solve you any thing. EAS is not a new technology. It's been here about 5 years since old Windows Mobile 5.0.
So what specifically do i need to request since the current setup works with WM 6.5, iphone, and android.
There is nothing special need to be done on Focus. Exchange Active Sync is the same as on WM. iPhone or Android. The only thing that WP7 lacks, from what I read, is email encryption. If your company requires email encryption policy, it will not work. But again, Android never really supports email encryption either. So, if you have Android working (not using 3rd party software like TouchDown), you should be fine.
What exactly is your problem with your Exchange Sync. Outlook Hotmail connector has nothing to do with it. It is only required if you want to sync your non-Exchange Outlook calendar and contacts to hotmail.
Actually, I have only tried it with WM 6.5 and iPhone. Email does require encryption. When I try to add the settings to the focus it just says it outlook account info is incorrect. I had heard 3rd hand that people were able to get android going so thanks for the heads up. I was about to order an atrix.
I guess iPhone 4 is my only real option...
I'm willing to bet you just have the settings incorrect and your focus will work perfectly.
I work for Microsoft and I've had WM5, WM6.5, all of the iphones, and now a Samsung Focus all connected to corporate restricted exchange.
Our corporate policies are very strong, and yet our phones work fine. I can't read an encrypted message on the phone (but no phone other than the old WM can do that), but as far as connecting and downloading mail I think WP7 does it best. The only feature I believe is currently missing is threaded view, which I would assume is coming at some point.
My WP7 phone is currently connected to two separate exchange servers (MS corp, and outlook.com, which is similar to hotmail). So it's all possible.
What is it you're trying to do, and what's not working? Hotmail should work 100% since I believe they've rolled out direct exchange support for all accounts.
Thanks for helping.... Email works fine with hotmail, yahoo, and gmail. Its only when I try my outlook exchange mail that I have any issues. I have tried all of the possible permutations for setup.
I am not the only one with this problem
answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-sync/does-windows-phone-7-sync-to-outlook/48ae2598-f773-4b4c-87cc-54d8c5c012d2
pocketnow.com/windows-phone/how-to-sync-windows-phone-7-with-outlook
They both seem to point out the deficiency with the phone.
So you have ecncrypted corporate email and dont have a problem?
You've lost me a little bit. Which are you trying to sync to Outlook (the desktop application), or Exchange (the mail server system)?
If you're trying to sync to Outlook, then i think you're out of luck. But, if you're trying to sync to Exchange (which is what 90% of people will have Outlook sync to), then it should work. I read both of the articles you linked, and they refer to Outlook data syncing, not to exchange. At least from what I gathered.
The phone can sync any mails with exchange, but there are two limitations. Specific private encrypted mails can't currently be read on any phone I believe (I think WM6.5 was the last OS to support them), and the WP7 device doesn't support full OS and storage encryption. It is possible for an Exchange admin to require that setting, although it's not common. A future release should include device encryption.
So, if you have a requirement on the second, then it sounds like WP7 won't current work for you. But, if it's not device encryption that you're looking for, then it sounds like WP7 should work fine.
Thanks for your help. I am trying to synch with exchange. I'll keep trying to configure it. I've asked our IT guys for help, but they have never even seen a phone with 7.
When I setup the account, there is a setting for logs. Do you happen to know where those end up and how I might get to them?
I don't know where the logging goes, but perhaps the error message your getting can be helpful?
I ran across this page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...exchange/7ccd6098-f9b5-44c7-84c6-2fd9e6a097f9
Which appears to hit some of the issues you're facing, and might provide some validation to the settings you're using.
Turns out your hunches were right, after escalating the issue for a week, the IT team came back and said "ooops" we forgot to add you to the list.
I put in the settings and everything works great. Thanks for challanging my assumption.
Howdy...
I'm using the standard email client (not Gmail) on my note 3...
My issue is that when I delete an email through either my laptop client, or my email's webclient (I use Fastmail.fm), the emails don't delete on my Note 3.
The result is that I can delete a bunch of old messages and spam on my laptop, but they hang around on my phone.
I've used K-9, and it works perfectly, deleting emails on the phone as I delete them on the laptop, but I was hoping to use the stock email client so I could have Galaxy Gear notifications from the email.
Has anyone else seen this issue? Or know how to fix it?
Thanks!
Best,
Ben
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ben1000 said:
Howdy...
I'm using the standard email client (not Gmail) on my note 3...
My issue is that when I delete an email through either my laptop client, or my email's webclient (I use Fastmail.fm), the emails don't delete on my Note 3.
The result is that I can delete a bunch of old messages and spam on my laptop, but they hang around on my phone.
I've used K-9, and it works perfectly, deleting emails on the phone as I delete them on the laptop, but I was hoping to use the stock email client so I could have Galaxy Gear notifications from the email.
Has anyone else seen this issue? Or know how to fix it?
Thanks!
Best,
Ben
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Hi Ben,
Since you are using a stock email client on your notebook, how have you enabled the syncing with your Note 3. When using GMail and other email clients, there's an API within the device which queries the email server requesting new notifications based on what you've triggered your device to query. With a stock email client, this does not always succeed as some ISP's have crippled 3rd party applications from querying their servers.
Hope this helps!
I'm not sure what you mean by a 'stock email client on my notebook'. It's Apple Mail, but I can use my webclient too..
As I mentioned, I'm not using an ISP. I use fastmail.fm
I have enabled 'syncing' on the phone... or else I wouldn't be getting new mail at all, I suppose...
So, getting new mail is not an issue. The issue is that mail deleted on my laptop is NOT deleted on my phone. So, if I delete 100 spam emails on my laptop, they are still on my phone. Again, only with the standard email client. It works perfectly with K-9.
Sorry if I've misunderstood your response. Can you elaborate what I may be doing wrong?
Best,
Ben
cellrama said:
Hi Ben,
Since you are using a stock email client on your notebook, how have you enabled the syncing with your Note 3. When using GMail and other email clients, there's an API within the device which queries the email server requesting new notifications based on what you've triggered your device to query. With a stock email client, this does not always succeed as some ISP's have crippled 3rd party applications from querying their servers.
Hope this helps!
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I started having problems with the stock email app on my note 2 & gave up on it & went over to using K9 so when I got my note 3 I expected problems with it but gave it another chance & it's completely screwed up. It constantly downloads mails I've deleted & shows them as unread & sometimes displays only old mail from about a year ago.. its a total mess... its doing that "your password has changed couldn't connect" thing that it also did on my note 2... I've now deleted all the accounts off it & only use K9.
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ben1000 said:
I'm not sure what you mean by a 'stock email client on my notebook'. It's Apple Mail, but I can use my webclient too..
As I mentioned, I'm not using an ISP. I use fastmail.fm
I have enabled 'syncing' on the phone... or else I wouldn't be getting new mail at all, I suppose...
So, getting new mail is not an issue. The issue is that mail deleted on my laptop is NOT deleted on my phone. So, if I delete 100 spam emails on my laptop, they are still on my phone. Again, only with the standard email client. It works perfectly with K-9.
Sorry if I've misunderstood your response. Can you elaborate what I may be doing wrong?
Best,
Ben
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Hi Ben,
Based on your initial post, I though there were two issues:
Problems with your Apple Mail syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Problems with the K-9 application installed on your Android device syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Sorry for any confusion my post may have caused! This will be the best way to explain things and let me know should you have questions...
K-9 is an email client which you have installed on your Android device. This client has been configured during its initial setup so when you receive new mail, it is delivered to K-9 on your Android device. Syncing has been turned on so what you do with the remote client (K-9) will reflect on the server (fastmail.fm) and vice-versa. There is usually some type of setting triggered where on conflict, the server takes priority.
The above as you've suggested is working correctly but the problem here is with your Apple Mail:
Apple Mail is your client application within OS-X which supports the handling of email. During the configuration of this application, you have entered all your server settings for fastmail.fm so this client (Apple Mail) will query and pull email from the fastmail.fm server either real time, in specific intervals (5 min, 10 min etc...) or simply when you click a "Check Mail" button.
The problem you have is whenever you update Apple Mail, the changes are not reflecting (or syncing) to your device. I do not know much about Apple Mail but your issue would lead me to the conclusion you have disabled this ability within your Apple Mail program. I would double check your settings and make sure you have enabled your Apple Mail program to propagate changes to the server. This will allow changes made to email within your remote client to update server-side and should reflect across all your devices which are configured with the fastmail.fm email account.
The only issue is Apple products are very strict with their security measures so I know the Apple Mail client will download from the server but I'm unsure if it allows a post-back to update the server regarding changes made through the Apple Mail client. I'm sure it's a simple fix within the settings but if not, I'm assuming it has to do with a layer of security being implemented by Apple but not being an Apple user myself, someone else would need to clarify.
Hope this helps!
Howdy...
There's nothing wrong with Apple Mail... Working perfectly.
Nothing wrong with the webapp from Fastmail. Also perfect.
Nothing wrong with K-9. Works perfectly.
The issue is with the stock Android Mail app on my Note 3.
Cellrama... I sincerely appreciate your efforts, but perhaps you could confine yourself to just dealing with that issue, as I seem to be having a very tough time explaining the situation to you... There's nothing at all wrong with the laptop, webapp, or K-9. They have all been working as they should for several years now...
My only issue is that I would like to receive email notifications on my Gear.. So, I have to use the default Android email client.
But, as was stated by the other poster, it seems not to work correctly. When iMAP email is deleted, that delete should sync across all clients. With me, it's syncing perfectly with every client except Android Email.
I apologize if my initial post confused you. I'm new to this forum, and I don't seem to be having much luck describing the problem in a way you are able to understand, so again, I apologize.
If anyone else has a solution to the issue, I would greatly appreciate your input.
Best,
Ben
cellrama said:
Hi Ben,
Based on your initial post, I though there were two issues:
Problems with your Apple Mail syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Problems with the K-9 application installed on your Android device syncing with fastmail.fm and vice-versa
Sorry for any confusion my post may have caused! This will be the best way to explain things and let me know should you have questions...
K-9 is an email client which you have installed on your Android device. This client has been configured during its initial setup so when you receive new mail, it is delivered to K-9 on your Android device. Syncing has been turned on so what you do with the remote client (K-9) will reflect on the server (fastmail.fm) and vice-versa. There is usually some type of setting triggered where on conflict, the server takes priority.
The above as you've suggested is working correctly but the problem here is with your Apple Mail:
Apple Mail is your client application within OS-X which supports the handling of email. During the configuration of this application, you have entered all your server settings for fastmail.fm so this client (Apple Mail) will query and pull email from the fastmail.fm server either real time, in specific intervals (5 min, 10 min etc...) or simply when you click a "Check Mail" button.
The problem you have is whenever you update Apple Mail, the changes are not reflecting (or syncing) to your device. I do not know much about Apple Mail but your issue would lead me to the conclusion you have disabled this ability within your Apple Mail program. I would double check your settings and make sure you have enabled your Apple Mail program to propagate changes to the server. This will allow changes made to email within your remote client to update server-side and should reflect across all your devices which are configured with the fastmail.fm email account.
The only issue is Apple products are very strict with their security measures so I know the Apple Mail client will download from the server but I'm unsure if it allows a post-back to update the server regarding changes made through the Apple Mail client. I'm sure it's a simple fix within the settings but if not, I'm assuming it has to do with a layer of security being implemented by Apple but not being an Apple user myself, someone else would need to clarify.
Hope this helps!
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ben1000 said:
Howdy...
I'm using the standard email client (not Gmail) on my note 3...
My issue is that when I delete an email through either my laptop client, or my email's webclient (I use Fastmail.fm), the emails don't delete on my Note 3.
The result is that I can delete a bunch of old messages and spam on my laptop, but they hang around on my phone.
I've used K-9, and it works perfectly, deleting emails on the phone as I delete them on the laptop, but I was hoping to use the stock email client so I could have Galaxy Gear notifications from the email.
Has anyone else seen this issue? Or know how to fix it?
Thanks!
Best,
Ben
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Ben,
When you setup your fastmail account, did you set it up as a "POP" account or an "IMAP" account? POP accounts will only pull a copy of the email from the server to your device, but will not push changes made on your device back to the server. IMAP, however, is a two-way email protocol that will push changes made on your phone to the server. It looks like Fastmail supports both POP & IMAP, so I would try following the instructions listed here.
Howdy...
Thanks, but it's IMAP. I assume that if it weren't, it wouldn't work perfectly with Apple Mail, WebMail, and K-9.
It seems no one really wants to admit that this is an Android problem... No worries, I appreciate the help, and will look elsewhere... I appreciate the time you took to reply...
Best,
Ben
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Ben,
When you setup your fastmail account, did you set it up as a "POP" account or an "IMAP" account? POP accounts will only pull a copy of the email from the server to your device, but will not push changes made on your device back to the server. IMAP, however, is a two-way email protocol that will push changes made on your phone to the server. It looks like Fastmail supports both POP & IMAP, so I would try following the instructions listed here.
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ben1000 said:
Howdy...
There's nothing wrong with Apple Mail... Working perfectly.
Nothing wrong with the webapp from Fastmail. Also perfect.
Nothing wrong with K-9. Works perfectly.
The issue is with the stock Android Mail app on my Note 3.
Cellrama... I sincerely appreciate your efforts, but perhaps you could confine yourself to just dealing with that issue, as I seem to be having a very tough time explaining the situation to you... There's nothing at all wrong with the laptop, webapp, or K-9. They have all been working as they should for several years now...
My only issue is that I would like to receive email notifications on my Gear.. So, I have to use the default Android email client.
But, as was stated by the other poster, it seems not to work correctly. When iMAP email is deleted, that delete should sync across all clients. With me, it's syncing perfectly with every client except Android Email.
I apologize if my initial post confused you. I'm new to this forum, and I don't seem to be having much luck describing the problem in a way you are able to understand, so again, I apologize.
If anyone else has a solution to the issue, I would greatly appreciate your input.
Best,
Ben
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Ben,
Your initial posts refers to multiple devices and what works/doesn't work. I fully understood your post and was trying to provide you a little background information. I apologize if you took offense but when I ask what stock email client you're using on your notebook and the response received by you is you're unsure what I mean but you use "Apple Mail"... Well that's an email client!
The issue is when using the stock email application provided by Android, when you make changes through your Apple Mail program, this is not syncing to your device or to your Galaxy Gear for that matter. The simple answer is... With your stock Android application, as long as you have enabled IMAP, email should sync effortlessly. This has already been suggested by another member. If it is not working, you will need to check the settings in your Apple Mail client as well as your stock email application within Android. There is most likely something on the server which is blocking your sync. I would even log into fastmail.fm through your web browser and check the settings on their server to ensure everything is set correctly. As for the Galaxy Gear device... Well, I would not buy this as I've heard more bad than good and one review set focus on it's poor ability to sync email.
Hope this answers your question with more clarity.
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ben1000 said:
Howdy...
Thanks, but it's IMAP. I assume that if it weren't, it wouldn't work perfectly with Apple Mail, WebMail, and K-9.
It seems no one really wants to admit that this is an Android problem... No worries, I appreciate the help, and will look elsewhere... I appreciate the time you took to reply...
Best,
Ben
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I think it's more to do with a settings issue server-side (in the settings on fastmail.fm) or through one of your clients which is used to access your email. You rely on a web-based email solution (fastmail.fm) which you access using one of many programs installed on an array of devices. The problem here is when using the stock Android application for mail, any modifications made to mail through your notebook running "Apple Mail" will not propagate across the server and update live on your device using the stock Android mail app. You already have stated every other application and program work but it's just the stock Android mail application.
This would lead me to believe the stock Android mail app does not support fastmail.fm. Many API's developers now use are custom and specific to targeted applications such as an API call to communication with GMail and their array of services. I agree you're issue pertains to the stock Android mail app. Is this an Android problem??? Just as much as it is a fastmail.fm problem. Fastmail.fm is not your most popular email program therefore, developers will not be flocking to purchase custom API's for implementation into their software.
You have answered your own question circuitously! I use the stock email app for GMail and Outlook without problem so the developer has implemented the proper API's to interact with IMAP on these specific servers but I will assume has opted against this for a less popular web-mail server.
Hope this helps!
Actually, I think it's far more likely that Apple Mail, Fastmail, and K-9 all work perfectly, and that, as has been suggested by others many times on this forum and even on this thread, the stock Android app is flawed... This would make sense, since I'm sure Google would rather you use Gmail than some other provider.
Thanks for your time, but there are many assumptions in your email that are wrong... but let's just call it quits at this point. No need to reply, as I won't be checking.
I truly appreciate the time and detail you put into your post, and I'm sure you'll help many others.
Best,
Ben
PS: I've been using the Galaxy Gear for about a week, and find it a wonderful companion. I highly recommend it. Is it perfect? No, but I believe it's the best smartwatch out there currently, and it has exceeded my admittedly lowered expectations...
cellrama said:
Ben,
Your initial posts refers to multiple devices and what works/doesn't work. I fully understood your post and was trying to provide you a little background information. I apologize if you took offense but when I ask what stock email client you're using on your notebook and the response received by you is you're unsure what I mean but you use "Apple Mail"... Well that's an email client!
The issue is when using the stock email application provided by Android, when you make changes through your Apple Mail program, this is not syncing to your device or to your Galaxy Gear for that matter. The simple answer is... With your stock Android application, as long as you have enabled IMAP, email should sync effortlessly. This has already been suggested by another member. If it is not working, you will need to check the settings in your Apple Mail client as well as your stock email application within Android. There is most likely something on the server which is blocking your sync. I would even log into fastmail.fm through your web browser and check the settings on their server to ensure everything is set correctly. As for the Galaxy Gear device... Well, I would not buy this as I've heard more bad than good and one review set focus on it's poor ability to sync email.
Hope this answers your question with more clarity.
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I think it's more to do with a settings issue server-side (in the settings on fastmail.fm) or through one of your clients which is used to access your email. You rely on a web-based email solution (fastmail.fm) which you access using one of many programs installed on an array of devices. The problem here is when using the stock Android application for mail, any modifications made to mail through your notebook running "Apple Mail" will not propagate across the server and update live on your device using the stock Android mail app. You already have stated every other application and program work but it's just the stock Android mail application.
This would lead me to believe the stock Android mail app does not support fastmail.fm. Many API's developers now use are custom and specific to targeted applications such as an API call to communication with GMail and their array of services. I agree you're issue pertains to the stock Android mail app. Is this an Android problem??? Just as much as it is a fastmail.fm problem. Fastmail.fm is not your most popular email program therefore, developers will not be flocking to purchase custom API's for implementation into their software.
You have answered your own question circuitously! I use the stock email app for GMail and Outlook without problem so the developer has implemented the proper API's to interact with IMAP on these specific servers but I will assume has opted against this for a less popular web-mail server.
Hope this helps!
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ben1000 said:
Actually, I think it's far more likely that Apple Mail, Fastmail, and K-9 all work perfectly, and that, as has been suggested by others many times on this forum and even on this thread, the stock Android app is flawed... This would make sense, since I'm sure Google would rather you use Gmail than some other provider.
Thanks for your time, but there are many assumptions in your email that are wrong... but let's just call it quits at this point. No need to reply, as I won't be checking.
I truly appreciate the time and detail you put into your post, and I'm sure you'll help many others.
Best,
Ben
PS: I've been using the Galaxy Gear for about a week, and find it a wonderful companion. I highly recommend it. Is it perfect? No, but I believe it's the best smartwatch out there currently, and it has exceeded my admittedly lowered expectations...
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There's no assumptions in my email which are wrong but hey... everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you read a bit closer, I agree with what you've stated! Your response mirrors mine in that the Android email app is flawed. Whether this is due to lack of API implementation or forced by other more dominant email providers, that's anyone's guess.
Glad you like your Galaxy Gear. I cannot comment but based on reviews, I would tend to shy away myself but that's great it works for you.
Thanks and have a good night!
ben1000 said:
Howdy...
Thanks, but it's IMAP. I assume that if it weren't, it wouldn't work perfectly with Apple Mail, WebMail, and K-9.
It seems no one really wants to admit that this is an Android problem... No worries, I appreciate the help, and will look elsewhere... I appreciate the time you took to reply...
Best,
Ben
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Ben,
Just want to clarify to make sure we didn't miscommunicate. I wasn't asking if Fastmail is IMAP...i know that it supports both IMAP & POP. My question was did you set it up as an IMAP account on your phone. When adding an email account via the stock email app on the Note 3, after you enter your email address & password and pressing the "manual setup" button you'll be asked if it is a POP account, IMAP account or Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync account. If your server supports IMAP and you set it up as an IMAP account on the phone, it should work. It's a universal protocol that is supported on both ends. Sorry if I misunderstood your response...just wanted to make sure I was clear.
Thanks,
Ed