ok, so i searched the forum and couldn't find what i was looking for; therefore, i decided to make a thread (i apologize if there is such a thread already available)
So, I have the N1 rooted and have CM5.0.7-t1 installed and the Iphone 3GS (my dad's) is on stock (not jailbroken or anything). Both phones are connected to the same network. I used Speedtest app on both phones. I ran the app few times on both phones from the same location (1 floor above the router) right next to each other. Both were connected to the same server location.
The Iphone's speed is ~17000kbs download and ~4500kbs upload. While the N1, from the exact same location, speed is ~9000kbs/~1700kbs. In fact, even when I'm right next to the router and have full bars connecting to wifi, the fastest I can get with the N1 is ~16000kps/~1800kbs.
That's a huge difference and wanted to know why that's happening.
But which one loads up webpages faster? I can care less what these speed apps say when I compare to other phones. Let's put them to the test and well see who's is faster. And usually its this bad boy.
no one else can duplicate this (of course you'd need to have both Iphone and N1)?
i just find it hard to believe that even though the N1 has a better processor, the wifi speed is significantly reduced compared to Iphone 3GS while connected to the same network
Speedtest app on Android only goes up to 10MB though as far as i can see on my screen. Mine maxxed out at 9600kb/s on a 20MB connection
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So, I have the N1 rooted and have CM5.0.7-t1 installed
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That version is a test version for mytouch3g / dream phone not for nexus one. You should try with CM5.0.6... the wireless module are different on N1 that support wireless N (fastest) and the older dream/mt3g doesn't support
As you can see here:
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ok I don't understand why people keep trying to compare the two for accuracy or some **** Its really starting to bug me. The Nexus is made by HTC the iphone is made by Apple you can't compare the **** get over it. If your using the iphone 3gs you have old technology get use to it, right now the only reason why the iphone is faster is because I believe its using is it N or G with wireless routers? The Nexus one is getting and update soon which will enable one of the two on the phone. Sooo you can keep trying to find flaws in the nexus and spend the rest of your life doing so or you can chose a phone or how about build your own phone and shut up.
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ok I don't understand why people keep trying to compare the two for accuracy or some **** Its really starting to bug me. The Nexus is made by HTC the iphone is made by Apple you can't compare the **** get over it. If your using the iphone 3gs you have old technology get use to it, right now the only reason why the iphone is faster is because I believe its using is it N or G with wireless routers? The Nexus one is getting and update soon which will enable one of the two on the phone. Sooo you can keep trying to find flaws in the nexus and spend the rest of your life doing so or you can chose a phone or how about build your own phone and shut up.
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Can i correct you? cyanogen mod (the right version for N1 not for other devices) already have the module for wireless N... his test is totally wrong because is using wrong ROM version...
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ok I don't understand why people keep trying to compare the two for accuracy or some **** Its really starting to bug me. The Nexus is made by HTC the iphone is made by Apple you can't compare the **** get over it. If your using the iphone 3gs you have old technology get use to it, right now the only reason why the iphone is faster is because I believe its using is it N or G with wireless routers? The Nexus one is getting and update soon which will enable one of the two on the phone. Sooo you can keep trying to find flaws in the nexus and spend the rest of your life doing so or you can chose a phone or how about build your own phone and shut up.
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you need to calm down..he was trying to figure out why he wasnt get full speed on the nexus, not trying to find a flaw.
mobile speed tests are inaccurate. In any instance without looking at specs, wifi on my nexus is STUPID fast, I mean immediate loading literally. Then of course you see the nexus one's specs and it supports wireless b/g/N connectivity, it's without doubt one of the fastest devices on wifi to date. hell even on tmo's HSPA+ network it's faster.. comparing an ifag to the nexus are u crazy? not even worth the comparison
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Can i correct you? cyanogen mod (the right version for N1 not for other devices) already have the module for wireless N... his test is totally wrong because is using wrong ROM version...
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So they already have it enabled, so therefore his test is wrong and he just needs to get a life and stop comparing the two either you want to use the phone or you don't its that simple. All these comparison and threads being started comparing another phone to the Nexus need to quit cause its just annoying.. to come and look through forums of comparisons when your trying to see if a question you wanted to ask is on here.
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So they already have it enabled, so therefore his test is wrong and he just needs to get a life and stop comparing the two either you want to use the phone or you don't its that simple. All these comparison and threads being started comparing another phone to the Nexus need to quit cause its just annoying.. to come and look through forums of comparisons when your trying to see if a question you wanted to ask is on here.
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Yes, i don't know if it's enabled on desire rom too, but i'm sure for 5.0.6 with default cyanogen kernel it work!
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Can i correct you? cyanogen mod (the right version for N1 not for other devices) already have the module for wireless N... his test is totally wrong because is using wrong ROM version...
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not using the wrong rom as cyanogen released his test version of 5.0.7 for N1 yesterday; and yes the wireless N is active on cyanogen's rom
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you need to calm down..he was trying to figure out why he wasnt get full speed on the nexus, not trying to find a flaw.
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You need to find another way to get your post count up buddy.... fail
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So they already have it enabled, so therefore his test is wrong and he just needs to get a life and stop comparing the two either you want to use the phone or you don't its that simple. All these comparison and threads being started comparing another phone to the Nexus need to quit cause its just annoying.. to come and look through forums of comparisons when your trying to see if a question you wanted to ask is on here.
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dude, if you find this annoying, then don't post on the thread; i didn't go out of my way to compare the phones; just happened to have both phones at hand and just decided to see how the two differs; i'm not spending hours and hours trying to find out which is better; the simple app took less than 2 minutes to run multiple times
i think it's a valid question to ask as to why the N1, using speedtest app, isn't going as high;
you need to chill out
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You need to find another way to get your post count up buddy.... fail
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coming from the person who just complains about other peoples posts.. real cool buddy
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coming from the person who just complains about other peoples posts.. real cool buddy
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I can complain if I want to and You aint gon do **** about it, let alone. You are comparing two damn phones an iphone a nexus, your trying to figure out why one is performing better than the other? Correct? your comparing so STFU stop comparing and get over the speed test results you want to compare speeds lookup the chipset information and find out their stats on the iphones wifi chip and the nexus...done and over with no damn comparisons needed...then you have other things in the way such as what os the two are running and what the internals have, thus kernal updates and further updates. If you don't like what I'm typing I could care less go cry me a river...
and then out of all the phones you have you compare those two? Really? so out of the hero and other phones you just come in here and decide the two phones that everyone compares? right? get a life you failed at this post and you need to find something else to compare cause this thread was another Apple fan boy comparison failure..
Nokia 5300
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Sprint Hero << Out of all these damn phones you've had you compare the Nexus and The Iphone? ROFL
Speed tests on mobile phones are always limited by the CPU and RAM being the bottleneck. That is the answer to this thread. Each phone can only handle data at a certain speed.
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I can complain if I want to and You aint gon do **** about it, let alone. You are comparing two damn phones an iphone a nexus, your trying to figure out why one is performing better than the other? Correct? your comparing so STFU stop comparing and get over the speed test results you want to compare speeds lookup the chipset information and find out their stats on the iphones wifi chip and the nexus...done and over with no damn comparisons needed...then you have other things in the way such as what os the two are running and what the internals have, thus kernal updates and further updates. If you don't like what I'm typing I could care less go cry me a river...
and then out of all the phones you have you compare those two? Really? so out of the hero and other phones you just come in here and decide the two phones that everyone compares? right? get a life you failed at this post and you need to find something else to compare cause this thread was another Apple fan boy comparison failure..
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Sprint Hero << Out of all these damn phones you've had you compare the Nexus and The Iphone? ROFL
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IM NOT DOING THE COMPARISON! i didnt start the thread you dumbass.
Ok, might have been able to get some valuable information out of this thread but I'm guessing the attack of the 14 year olds has ended that possibility. Later dudes.
wow, you guys are all acting like little children. who cares if he's comparing to an iphone. a comparison is a comparison.
I posted a thread about slow upload speeds on the nexus a while ago. I can't get over 2500kbps no matter what I do, yet an itouch on the same network can go to 5000+ easily. I'm using Verizon FiOS. There's obviously something causing slower upload speeds on the N1. Does it really matter much in every day browsing? No. But does it exist? Yes.
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So basically I'm phone-savvy and all (maybe not at as much as the devs here) and bought the HTC Hero around 6 months ago.
I made a big mistake.
First of all, I'm on T Mobile US and I got the unlocked European version and though I knew 3G wouldn't work I just said "who cares" but now I realize that 3G is actually quite a big jump from the slow EDGE.
Second, I'm not quite satisfied with the HTC-ized Android. And plus we still haven't gotten a 2.1 update.
Third, it just doesn't feel that good of a phone as do several others.
Sure it can do just about everything, but hell even the iPhone is simpler to use and easier. By simplicity I'm talking about the time it takes to achieve a task which is on average longer on my HTC Hero (at least for me).
Now the 2.1 update has been pushed back further and I'm very disappointed with HTC. All in all I think I'm going to trade in my phone for something else, maybe a blackberry or an iphone or just sell it and wait for something else.
I don't want to start a flame war, and I'm glad those of you who are satisfied with the HTC Hero have a phone you enjoy... but for me, I guess it's over.
I'd also like to thank all the developers who worked so hard to make my Hero that much more usable and interesting. Thanks guys!
I have to disagree. I have been working in the wireless industry since 1999 and also consider myself to be phone savvy. I've been using smartphones since the Motorola MPx200! The Hero is HANDS DOWN one of the BEST phones I've ever had. I'm using mine in the US on AT&T (Telus Hero, so 3G works). I don't think it is slow at all. If you don't like the HTC "stuff", load a Vanilla ROM. I had a Magic before my Hero and only had EDGE on the Magic, so I can see where that would bother you. But that's not because it's a Hero, but rather because you are using it on the wrong network. When the official 2.1 comes out and the devs have access to the proper kernel, these phones are going to fly! It's a pity you can't get 3G on it, because I think you would have a much better opinion of the phone.
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Well, not really.
You should have known a smartphone relies on a decent data connection. Downloading one or two emails and updating the weather app is about as much as I can take on GPRS/EDGE.
You aren't satisfied with the Sense UI? Did you even watch any online videos before you bought the phone? Surely you didn't just walk in to a purchase like this blind. The 2.1 update is going to be Sense UI too so why are you holding out for it? Why don't you just put a vanilla 2.1 ROM on your Hero and have it now without Sense?
eatmydave, speed really isn't the issue. My Hero is running perfectly fine, and as for data I'm mostly on a WiFi which is why I got the Hero from Europe and back then the Telus Hero wasn't out. Personal opinion, I just didn't have a satisfactory experience with the phone. I'm not bashing on the phone at all It's great and a lot of people love it... just not me.
kadison, getting defensive much? Yes, really. Read the above section. I knew that I'd only have EDGE and sure I didn't think it would be that slow but I'm on wifi most of the times anyway.
And of course I saw videos before buying the phone I'm not bashing on the Sense UI, all I'm saying is that it's more eye candy than it is useful. At least for me.
Custom ROMs were the only reason I put up with it for so long anyway. But in the end, this phone just isn't for me.
The reason I posted this was to possibly warn future buyers who are like me. Sure a lot of other people love this phone, but a few are dissatisfied.
Oh yeah, no one would really want to buy the Hero now since they have the Legend or whatever out. HTC is just using their marketing techniques (pushing 2.1 further and further back) so some people give in and buy their new hand sets.
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I have to disagree. I have been working in the wireless industry since 1999 and also consider myself to be phone savvy. I've been using smartphones since the Motorola MPx200! The Hero is HANDS DOWN one of the BEST phones I've ever had. I'm using mine in the US on AT&T (Telus Hero, so 3G works). I don't think it is slow at all. If you don't like the HTC "stuff", load a Vanilla ROM. I had a Magic before my Hero and only had EDGE on the Magic, so I can see where that would bother you. But that's not because it's a Hero, but rather because you are using it on the wrong network. When the official 2.1 comes out and the devs have access to the proper kernel, these phones are going to fly! It's a pity you can't get 3G on it, because I think you would have a much better opinion of the phone.
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Even I do disagree.
HTC Hero is a great phone. Its proved that It can handle 2.1 ver well including 3D Gallery n Live wallpapers. Its just missing the 2.1 Update from HTC. But not doing that might make HTC to loose some customers.
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First of all, I'm on T Mobile US and I got the unlocked European version and though I knew 3G wouldn't work I just said "who cares" but now I realize that 3G is actually quite a big jump from the slow EDGE.
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I run on edge most of them, and for day to day usage, you wouldn't notice much difference with Edge vs 3g vs HSDPA. The web is a bit slower, but I use opera mini so pages are small.
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Second, I'm not quite satisfied with the HTC-ized Android. And plus we still haven't gotten a 2.1 update.
Third, it just doesn't feel that good of a phone as do several others.
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The lack of 2.1 is annoying, but give Villain a whirl. I'm running 5.3 it's the first time I'm happy with a 2.1 rom. I had been running the Mr Bang performance rom for a few months previous as I felt it was the best 1.5 rom.
I to got the urge to move to something else, but there will be bigger upgrades around the corner.
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kadison, getting defensive much? Yes, really. Read the above section. I knew that I'd only have EDGE and sure I didn't think it would be that slow but I'm on wifi most of the times anyway.
And of course I saw videos before buying the phone I'm not bashing on the Sense UI, all I'm saying is that it's more eye candy than it is useful. At least for me.
Custom ROMs were the only reason I put up with it for so long anyway. But in the end, this phone just isn't for me.
The reason I posted this was to possibly warn future buyers who are like me. Sure a lot of other people love this phone, but a few are dissatisfied.
Oh yeah, no one would really want to buy the Hero now since they have the Legend or whatever out. HTC is just using their marketing techniques (pushing 2.1 further and further back) so some people give in and buy their new hand sets.
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No, I'm not being defensive. EDGE is crap and on average you get less than the speed of a 56K modem. The times I find I really need a decent data connection is when I am not near any WiFi, say if i'm lost somewhere or need to find a nearby business or shop. Doing this on EDGE is a real ball ache and if I knew that's all I'd ever have I'd reconsider my phone/network choice.
Sense ties the OS together visually but I wouldn't call it eye candy because IMO Android needs this. It also provides quite a few useful widgets and shortcuts, meaning you don't have to go hunting in the market as soon as you get your phone for something as basic seeing the weather, bookmarks or connectivity toggles on a home screen.
I agree no one who can afford a Legend or Desire would buy a Hero now. Furthermore the only reason to buy a Legend is because you have a soft spot for aluminium or can't cope with the physical size of a Desire - there's only a £15 price difference between the two phones on devicewire.com!
HTC are dragging their heels with the Hero's 2.1 update but it'll be here eventually.
It seems to me that despite what you said you did want to start a flame war. Why even post something like this? We are all on this forum because we love our Heros and want to get the most out of them. You've gotten 6 months of use out of a phone you wanted so much you imported it, there's no use complaining now about how it's not up to scratch. So what if 2.1 hasn't come through the official channels yet, this is an open source project and if you're relying on official roms, then I truly believe you are not realising the full potential of what your phone can really do.
Maybe you should just join the ranks of the drones conforming to consumer commercialism and buy an iphone
stop this!
Please, could somebody close this Thread???
I don't like (and prob many other people) this kind of discussing on this Forum from the Hero. there is a general discussion forum where you can talk about this, but in MY opinion, this forum is for people who definately like their HERO and want to use all of it's functionalities.....
If you don't like the phone, stop complaining, get the hell out of here, buy yourself an Iphone, and bugger off......sorry for being rude!
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Please, could somebody close this Thread???
I don't like (and prob many other people) this kind of discussing on this Forum from the Hero. there is a general discussion forum where you can talk about this, but in MY opinion, this forum is for people who definately like their HERO and want to use all of it's functionalities.....
If you don't like the phone, stop complaining, get the hell out of here, buy yourself an Iphone, and bugger off......sorry for being rude!
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You need to think about these two words 'discussing' and 'discussion' - oh look, well I never, you used those two words in your comment.
Think about what those words mean, and then, the answer to your upset will be found
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Please, could somebody close this Thread???
I don't like (and prob many other people) this kind of discussing on this Forum from the Hero.
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This is a valid topic imho, if he doesnt like his product which he has bought with his hard earned money, this is his prerogativ.
Nobody had to respond to his post, people could just let it die, but people keep posting, therefore, its a valid topic.
If i had known about HTC's unfriendly update/customer policy, i wouldnt have bought it either.
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I don't like this kind of discussing on this Forum from the Hero. Bugger off etc
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I sat here for far too long constructing a long scathing reply but I decided i'm not going to waste any more of my time on it! So:
OP - If you really hate your Hero so much that's your choice. You have a right to your opinion and the world would be a dull place if everyone liked the same thing.
Pietje - Grow up.
Looking at the numbers in his handle, one has to assume he has a fair bit of that to do.
Yeah does seem like this has turned into more of an argument.
All I'm saying is that I, personally, didn't like the Hero. Never said anything about the Hero being bad or anything. It's all a matter of opinion. I have friends who love their Motorola Razrs and laugh when I tell them I paid 600 dollars for a phone, they just say "what's the point of using internet on your phone?" so yeah there are people like that also.
As a device Hero is definitely great. As something I would like/want/need/use, it's not. Just not for me.
I'd appreciate it if people didn't try to argue their points here, I'm not disagreeing with anyone.
Cheers!
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Motorola Razr
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I never understood the appeal of those phones!
Well I have to completely disagree with you I got my Hero in April and I love it I am running Kimera's overclocked ROM so I basically have a Legend and my Hero does do everything I love to show off with it and everyone thinks its so cool and its so fun to just play with and i absolutely HATE Apple
@MentalDeath - Agree on all accounts. Especially the Kimera ROM.
why did you not just get a htc magic (mytouch 3g) its same specs as hero bar the camera and would work on T-Mobile with 3g
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does this work?
In the hidden test menu, under phone information(*#*#4636#*#*), it's possible to select cdma as network. Would some of those settings enable 3g, for european heros in the states ?
In the hidden test menu, under phone information(*#*#4636#*#*), it's possible to select cdma as network. Would some of those settings enable 3g, for european heros in the states ?
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No I dont think this will help as that do not have the bands the US carriers use
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?
The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
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actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.
Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~
Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.
lolcopter said:
yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.
Anyone jumping on one of these phones when they come out? I am thinking about getting the thunderbolt seeing as its all based off the dinc and they have has some success modding that.
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Anyone jumping on one of these phones when they come out? I am thinking about getting the thunderbolt seeing as its all based off the dinc and they have has some success modding that.
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I personally do not find anything on the next gen phones ( at least the ones displayed at CES ) that I would trade my fascinate in for. I am going to wait for a bit.
4G just isn't in my area yet. I am between 2 markets.
Where I live I dont get 4g but I travel a lot and some of the places I go have 4g. I am interested in the thunderbolt because it has the large screen and its not motorola.
I have 4g coverage in my area, work and home. But going to hold onto the Fascinate until something peaks my interest. Seems like all the 4g phones have 4.3" screens. Seems kinda big to me...
jv
I am interested to see how the orion and tegra 2 do. I already have heard many say there is a large battery drain with the tegra 2.
Upon further digging the snapdragon isnt the same as the dinc, its a next gen one, still not dual core though, heres a comparison against the samsung for 3d
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...htc-desire-hd-vs-samsung-galaxy-s/#more-17339
Considering 4G won't be in my area until end of year, I'll start looking then.
However, my next phone will have to have these conditions:
1. Dual Core
2. Rear Camera of 8MB or >
3. Front Camera of 2MB or >
4. Android 2.4 or >
5. USB connection
6. SD card support
7. Ability to become PC. i.e. Moto's Atrix laptop doc or similar doc that would allow connection to full screen/keyboard (or phone would be kb/mouse).
I think these requirements are easily doable by end of the year. Plus, I don't think battery is going to be very much affected as some think by dual core. Most phones now use a 1500mh battery whereas the notes for dual cores so far are 2000mh batteries. So, I'm betting life is roughly the same.
Though, by next year we need to see a newer technology for portable devices.
Yeah, I really like the Atrix, its got all the stuff, and 1gb of ram. For some reason no one else is making that much ram on the phone. I just dont like how moto locks their phones, I get 2 upgrades a year since I have two phones so I am planning, right now, on getting the thunderbolt and then something around september.
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I'm going to wait for the hardware to mature first.
1) 4G is not available in my area.
2) Battery life? Everyone is focused on 4G and dual-core... nobody has said a peep about battery life.
3) I'm in love with the Samsung Fascinate hardware. Going to an LG or HTC phone feels like a step backwards.
4) Hackability. I want to only buy phones with lots of custom ROM support, and will wait to see how the modding / ROM scene develops first.
5) I don't buy new phones. I wait at least 2 months, then buy used devices. I can use the phone for several months, then sell the phone as used for about the same price I paid. Doing this allows me to frequently switch devices, so I can switch hardware almost at-will at no cost to me.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnCYASmJQAUhdGlsbDVVZFpyNnRQWTF2RE9IZUxvN3c&hl=en
Theres a full comparison of known stuff at this time, battery life is mentioned in there
I've just come to the conclusion that I am getting an HTC when my time is up. I really love this phone but the lack of updates from Samsung is just too much. This is my 4th samsung. I had the i760, the omnia 1 and 2 and now the Fascinate. I will not throw any more money to them.
just my 2 cents.
jv
what the hell is fido? and where u get it?
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I will not throw any more money to [Samsung]
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Yeah, the lack of post-launch updates is incredibly frustrating.
But they just make such sweet hardware... SUCH sweet hardware.
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what the hell is fido? and where u get it?
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Good question and I don't know ... it was bestowed upon me!
jv
kent1146 said:
Yeah, the lack of post-launch updates is incredibly frustrating.
But they just make such sweet hardware... SUCH sweet hardware.
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I honestly love the phone. Not that I wanna be a poser froyo boy but I think we deserve to have the latest and greatest. This phone has such potential but when you see what's coming out as far as in OS improvements and your not sure if or when it is going to be put on your phone I can't stand it. Oh well. I have one more year for a new every two so I'll just enjoy this pohone until I can get a 4G phone.
jv
Although I'm fairly sure 4g is available in my area (I live in Chicago), I'm totally content with my Fascinate at the moment. I'm planning on waiting a while for the next wave of 4g phones before I consider making the switch.
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Although I'm fairly sure 4g is available in my area (I live in Chicago), I'm totally content with my Fascinate at the moment. I'm planning on waiting a while for the next wave of 4g phones before I consider making the switch.
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Yeah, going to have to be sure the next phone is going to last me a few years seeing as Verizon is getting rid of it's new every two program. I wonder what they are going to replace it with, "Get Screwed every two"?
jv
big thing I am looking at with the thunderbolt is the xda community and mods possible with it, all htc phones have had great support from xda. Modding is my #1 reason for getting a phone, I thought the fascinate would have a great community since it was all unlocked and open sourced, but that fell short. Not slamming JT or Dirrk, geeknik...etc, they have all done outstanding work, but I thought it was going to be like the original droid crazy, w/ custom roms left and right. I know the HTCs pretty much carry that and I am guessing they will be able to port anything over. My 2nd phone down the road this year will be based on HW, something crazy again, I dont like having a slow phone.
My brother-in-law Facebook'ed a message earlier this morning.
He is a die-hard Apple fanboy, has been waiting for a Verizon iPhone for the past 3 years, and just got his Verizon iPhone 4 yesterday. 2 months ago, I convinced him to buy an Android phone, and taught him how to root it and play with custom ROMs.
"Not impressed with the iPhone, hate the stock OS. Wish I could put a custom ROM on it."
That makes me happy.
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.
me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning
I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.
I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.
A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
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ok, so i am going to upgrade my phone soon, i have 3 choices and i am not sure which one to get; Motorola Milestone X, Samsung Galaxy S, or HTC Merge.
any thoughts?
I'd look up each on xda development website and see which has better ROM choices and which development teams are involved.
From that information I'd pick the one that has best and most options.
Good luck
V's CDMA Hero
I try to get a phone thats on Xda cspire really doesnt have any good phones that has development on here , you should wait till they release 4g
Are you talking about the Galaxy S 2, or just the Galaxy S? If it's the Galaxy S 2, go with that. I know people will come in and say Sammy is slow on updates, but I don't think they will disappoint with the S 2. Coupled with the last 2 Nexus phones have been Samsung, I think it shows Samsung's dedication to Android.
Otherwise, I'd get the Milestone X. I'm getting tired of HTC's shenanigans, so I'm looking to other manufacturers from here on out.
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I'm getting tired of HTC's shenanigans, so I'm looking to other manufacturers from here on out.
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What shenanigans? I've heard much worse about the Samsung Galaxy S (Epic) compared to the HTC hero. GPS problems causing the phone to restart and difficulty developing. They only just got CM7.
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What shenanigans? I've heard much worse about the Samsung Galaxy S (Epic) compared to the HTC hero. GPS problems causing the phone to restart and difficulty developing. They only just got CM7.
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I sold my epic and went back to my hero because it tons of problems my hero is way better
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im going with the motorola photon. not alot of development going on but thats not really a problem when the phone is beastly out the box(so i hear dont own one myself).but getting one in two weeks. im going to root it and run it stock, until some genius unlocks the bootloader without losing 4g.
I'm very seriously considering going with Sprint's version of the Samsung Galaxy SII, the Epic 4G Touch. I played with it at a friends' house and, even with the stock ROM, it is UNBELIEVABLE how much faster and better all around it is than our little workhorse Heroes.
I was not, however, too crazy about the Evo 3D. Even with a custom ROM, it seemed slow and sluggish by comparison to the stock Epic 4G. In the exact same location, the Epic 4G loaded everything faster, had much faster results on speedtest, and switched between apps much quicker. Plus the Epic is thinner and lighter, with a bigger screen.
I really don't know anything about the Photon. A 1ghz Tegra 2 is kinda slow these days, though. I looked at one in the store briefly, but the style was not very attractive to me. The piano black edges clashed with the matte black body. And they are fingerprint magnets.
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I'm very seriously considering going with Sprint's version of the Samsung Galaxy SII, the Epic 4G Touch. I played with it at a friends' house and, even with the stock ROM, it is UNBELIEVABLE how much faster and better all around it is than our little workhorse Heroes.
I was not, however, too crazy about the Evo 3D. Even with a custom ROM, it seemed slow and sluggish by comparison to the stock Epic 4G. In the exact same location, the Epic 4G loaded everything faster, had much faster results on speedtest, and switched between apps much quicker. Plus the Epic is thinner and lighter, with a bigger screen.
I really don't know anything about the Photon. A 1ghz Tegra 2 is kinda slow these days, though. I looked at one in the store briefly, but the style was not very attractive to me. The piano black edges clashed with the matte black body. And they are fingerprint magnets.
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I have an Evo 3D, and while it's definitely a step up from the OG Evo, HTC has killed the capability of the phone with their Sense UI. I don't get any FCs, but there is a lag when the the carousel is spinning. The frame rate of the spin is not very fluid. The only reason I have the 3D is because I was having issues with my Evo 4G, and it was replaced with a 3D. If I were in the market for a new phone today, I would go with the Epic Touch 4G, and not look back. But, I hope the Galaxy Nexus comes to Sprint, as I think I'm done with carrier customizations, since I always revert back to near vanilla Android (CMx) anyway. I just hope the 4th gen Nexus goes to Sprint (not due for an upgrade until Jan 2013), and has a LTE radio. I'd like for it to be a world phone, but will be satisfied with LTE and Jelly Bean, or whatever Googles uses for the letter J.
I own an evo as well haven't had not one issue. Slow ha never. If you on a Evo3d and its slow I'd definitely say its user error.
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I own an evo as well haven't had not one issue. Slow ha never. If you on a Evo3d and its slow I'd definitely say its user error.
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Compared to a SGS2 it is awfully slow. Just go to a retail store and compare the two. After seeing these two side by side outside of a store, I wanted to get an idea of what they were like in store, just in case you were right. You're not. Even in store, the difference is significant! It's really night and day. The SGS2 is significantly faster when loading web pages, has apparently a better radio because its speedtests were faster than the evo, when both were done side-by-side, and the SGS2 took and stored pictures about half a second faster.
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Compared to a SGS2 it is awfully slow. Just go to a retail store and compare the two. After seeing these two side by side outside of a store, I wanted to get an idea of what they were like in store, just in case you were right. You're not. Even in store, the difference is significant! It's really night and day. The SGS2 is significantly faster when loading web pages, has apparently a better radio because its speedtests were faster than the evo, when both were done side-by-side, and the SGS2 took and stored pictures about half a second faster.
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Lol man everyone has there opinion, but to say I'm wrong lol that's a little different. I actually own a Evo3d you don't own either phone correct?? And you went to a store a played with two demos and did a comparison which IMO isn't accurate because you dont know how the phones were setup. And as far as speed tests go IMO there garbage. Real world performance is what matters. But to save a back and forth about a phone you currently don't own I'll post this. You get what ever phone works for you. And that's all that matters.
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laie1472 said:
Lol man everyone has there opinion, but to say I'm wrong lol that's a little different. I actually own a Evo3d you don't own either phone correct?? And you went to a store a played with two demos and did a comparison which IMO isn't accurate because you dont know how the phones were setup. And as far as speed tests go IMO there garbage. Real world performance is what matters. But to save a back and forth about a phone you currently don't own I'll post this. You get what ever phone works for you. And that's all that matters.
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I don't think you read my first response. I played extensively with two of my friends' phones, one an SGS2, one an Evo 3d, both of which have cm7 loaded on them. I rebooted them both before I did a comparison. The SGS2 was _considerably_ faster in every respect. Then I went to a Sprint store to see if it was just some random thing. In the store, after rebooting them, the SGS2 was _significantly_ faster as well with both having stock roms that were wiped clean the night before my arrival.
All off the differences were real world differences. I think it's interesting to see speedtests act so differently, too, since both phones were priced at the exact same $199.99 level. The SGS2 was about 35% faster, repeatedly, when they did side-by-side comparisons. That matters to me, especially when every other phone operation was better, both under CM7 and stock.
The only thing I'm seeing in your response is that you haven't played with both phones and you think yours, without having done an empirical test, simply "must" be just as fast. Go compare for yourself, buddy.
As far as me reading your post incorrect that's a negative, your second post is greatly different than your first. How then could I have misread your first post and got the meaning of your second post when there obviously not the same. If what you posted in your second post was the point you were trying to make then don't you think you should have posted that instead?? "Its a rhetorical question" Also if that's all you get from my first post then hopefully you can gain a little more from this one. A good friend of mine has the sgs2 so I had the pleasure of handling the phone unrooted. Then just to spite me because I give him such a hard time about it he went and paid someone else to root it and put cm7 on it. After that I had the pleasure of handling the phone while being rooted. I will definitely say the sgs2 is a top noch phone but its not faster IMO than the Evo3d. As far as app loading,web page rendering, phone call connection, multitasking, multimedia upload & download, bootup time, shutdown time, etc. I've ran the sgs2 threw the paces of how I would use my phone and I would definitely still choose the Evo3d. So to shed a little light on the dark thought that you have of me just thinking "my Evo3d is faster" lol without giving the sgs2 a fair shot, I have spent enough time with the sgs2 to know that I would not want one. A fast phone yes but just not faster than the Evo3d. Its just my opinion. Also as I previously posted just get what phone you like best and if it works for you that's all that matters.
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""shooter on Deck""
laie1472 said:
As far as me reading your post incorrect that's a negative, your second post is greatly different than your first. How then could I have misread your first post and got the meaning of your second post when there obviously not the same. If what you posted in your second post was the point you were trying to make then don't you think you should have posted that instead?? "Its a rhetorical question" Also if that's all you get from my first post then hopefully you can gain a little more from this one. A good friend of mine has the sgs2 so I had the pleasure of handling the phone unrooted. Then just to spite me because I give him such a hard time about it he went and paid someone else to root it and put cm7 on it. After that I had the pleasure of handling the phone while being rooted. I will definitely say the sgs2 is a top noch phone but its not faster IMO than the Evo3d. As far as app loading,web page rendering, phone call connection, multitasking, multimedia upload & download, bootup time, shutdown time, etc. I've ran the sgs2 threw the paces of how I would use my phone and I would definitely still choose the Evo3d. So to shed a little light on the dark thought that you have of me just thinking "my Evo3d is faster" lol without giving the sgs2 a fair shot, I have spent enough time with the sgs2 to know that I would not want one. A fast phone yes but just not faster than the Evo3d. Its just my opinion. Also as I previously posted just get what phone you like best and if it works for you that's all that matters.
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I encourage you to re-read what I said. You're mistaking my second post for my first one. This is now my fourth on the subject. It appears you completely ignored most of what I said.
Your story is convoluted and sounds pretty far-fetched. At this point, it looks like a fairly weakly-fabricated "me too." You have over 200 Thank Yous here (which, I agree is meaningless in the grand scheme of things), but you really expect me to believe the story you concocted with such poor grammar and a lack of basic punctuation? No offense, but is English not your native language? Perhaps that's why we're not understanding one another.
You don't have to believe me, but real-world usage, as well as all of the reviews with benchmarks show that the SGS2 eats the Evo 3D for lunch in almost every benchmark. That translates to real world performance, at least in how I use my phone. Perhaps you don't use yours as a multimedia device. That's fine, not everybody does. It's ok if you don't want to believe that, but it is the case as every professional review site will attest.
sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I sold my epic and went back to my hero because it tons of problems my hero is way better
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Well you have no credibility left!
ganjah said:
I encourage you to re-read what I said. You're mistaking my second post for my first one. This is now my fourth on the subject. It appears you completely ignored most of what I said.
Your story is convoluted and sounds pretty far-fetched. At this point, it looks like a fairly weakly-fabricated "me too." You have over 200 Thank Yous here (which, I agree is meaningless in the grand scheme of things), but you really expect me to believe the story you concocted with such poor grammar and a lack of basic punctuation? No offense, but is English not your native language? Perhaps that's why we're not understanding one another.
You don't have to believe me, but real-world usage, as well as all of the reviews with benchmarks show that the SGS2 eats the Evo 3D for lunch in almost every benchmark. That translates to real world performance, at least in how I use my phone. Perhaps you don't use yours as a multimedia device. That's fine, not everybody does. It's ok if you don't want to believe that, but it is the case as every professional review site will attest.
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How many thanks I have is unimportant I also checked your profile and it seems most of your posts are just complaints and requests this helps insure that this is my last post on this subject. Also if you believe what I wrote or not doesn't concern me the least, such matters are pointless just like your posts. I understand that some people have trouble focusing there thoughts so I'll leave you to yourself so you hopefully get it all worked out. I really hope you do. Have a good one.
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""shooter on Deck""
You ignored everything I said, absolutely everything.
You gave no evidence for your claims except for your fake story. I noted that every review that compares both phones shows the difference I saw. This isn't opinion. It's fact, proven by multiple benchmarks and side-by-side comparisons.
I'll make this easy for you. Watch this video. It's real world performance. There's a distinct advantage for the SGS2.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2-video
I can understand if you prefer the Evo 3D for whatever reason. It's entirely acceptable to do so. However, to claim that its performance is better than the SGS2 is, simply put, wrong on almost all accounts. I didn't expect someone with so many Thanks to be such a jerk. It's good to admit when you're wrong. You might try some humility sometime.
I heart my NS4G that cost me $30. Paying $200 for a phone at this stayof the game is rather pointless imo, but I am enjoying browsing these hero threads without being bombarded by repeat ICS posts
Edit: that should be stage of the game
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lol @ the guy that thinks the evo3d is as good as the sgs2
and lol that he thinks its faster