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Can you post your usage and your battery life ?
Just as DUKE09 posted in the past in the Elf forum, I'm reporting the information needed to understand our usage:
- Things that you made with touch (gaming, video,gsm, music etc.) + how long? (hour plz)
- Whether if you switch off your touch at nights or not?
- Fully discharge and charge ?
- Total time to reach at zero level ? (touch turns itself off)
- Settings for HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
- Background applications
- Band (GSM or 3g)
- BT ON or Off
Mine are:
- No gaming no video or media, 1h30min phone call per day, 5 sms, plus Active sync via BT
- Charged during the night
- No full Discharge
- Dunno when it will be completly discharged (i need it for work)
- Registry settings all three configured with Default = 3 (my BT headset never disconnects even if the dual is in standby), I've played a little bit with those parameters and i found that with Default = 4 my battery drains really fast.
- Sometimes I use PocketCM and FullScreenKeyboard, both in background
- Disabled 3g, via Band menu in the Phone Settings (setting Band to GSM) and HKLM\Software\OEM\UMTS\OpMode configured to 1.
- BT always on
With those settings at the end of the day my Dual is at 60-65%
Please post your comments here !
Thanks in advance,
Raid.
You certainly doing better then me! my Dual at the end of a working day is at measly 30-40% but then again I do have it on set 3g all day, listen to about 90 min of music via bluetooth headset and surf the web for about an hour as have unlimited data plan with 3
Hhmmm!!! I going to try your power management reg tweak, I'll let you know if it makes any difference, if does nice find Raid!!
Fully charge in the morning, turn on Bluetooth 24 hours, MSN for 2 hours using 3.5G, Web browsing using 3.5G half an hour, talk on phone average of 15 mins at the end of date left 30 percent.
@gfreek
I think that the default setting is "3" for all power parameters.
I've modified those to "4" due to random disconnects of my old Nokia BT Headset (maybe is not compatible). But then I've found that the problem was the BT headset and not the Dual, and I've switched back to "3" due to an heavy battery drain. I dunno if your ROM has "3" by default.
Looking at the first two posts I think that using the Dual in a "normal way" for that kind of device, we have to charge it at the end of the day....no chances...
Has the Touch Elf a better battery life ?
Regards,
Raid.
I have Qtek 8500, Qtek S200, HTC 710, HTC Touch Dual ... all Device have simulare batterie drain!! I think ... HTC Touch Elf too. Only resone why i think Touch Elf is in the moment batterie friendlyer ... you can install a CPU Scaler to save your batterie. I use all Device in the always online mode (need Exchange Sync or Blackberry ... both are simulare in Batterie drain!)
Hi raid, I can confirm my dual default for all three was set to 4, I've now set it 3 like yours, let see if makes a difference on mine.
raid said:
@gfreek
I think that the default setting is "3" for all power parameters.
I've modified those to "4" due to random disconnects of my old Nokia BT Headset (maybe is not compatible). But then I've found that the problem was the BT headset and not the Dual, and I've switched back to "3" due to an heavy battery drain. I dunno if your ROM has "3" by default.
Looking at the first two posts I think that using the Dual in a "normal way" for that kind of device, we have to charge it at the end of the day....no chances...
Has the Touch Elf a better battery life ?
Regards,
Raid.
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Hi raid, I can confirm my dual default for all three was set to 4, I've now set it 3 like yours, let see if makes a difference on mine.
Ok gfreek ! I'm waiting for the results !
ok raid here's my findings with this tweak:
BEFORE:
Battery Level after a working day = 30-40%
(based on the below settings/usage)
AFTER:
Battery Level after a working day = 50-55%
(based on the below settings/usage)
Settings/Usage:
Band - 3G
Web - 1 hour day
Music via BT Headsets - 90min
Calls - about 20-30min
So as you can see raid this little reg tweak does have an overall effect on battery level! Just curious raid did you try setting yours to 2 or 1 on these registry? did they any more difference? or should I just stick to 3.
those registry settings, what are they doing?!
Did you guys notice any instability afterwards?
I didn't try to set them to 1 or 2.
Referring to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273990&highlight=keep+wifi+standby+bluetooth+Power
I think that with 1 or 2 we get more power consumption...
The strange thing is that with "4" BT should be off during the standby, instead we just get battery drains faster !!
Maybe the power states are different on the Dual ?
Many thanks gfreek !!
Please, if any other can confirm what we have tested, it will be much appreciated...
Settings work for me. Went from 25% left end of day to 60% left.
Also this helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305332
Anyone more tips ?
Admins, I think this thread should be a sticky !!!
Please ANY DUAL OWNER, try those power registry settings !!!
Just to have more feedbacks....
Many thanks to gfreek and steven !
Another Reg tweak to increase battery life even further!!
Hi guys I have tested this and found a nice little increase in battery life on top of the reg tweak Raid posted here! You're likely get 10-15% increase on battery life with this tweak, it may not seem like much but a power user like me, it does make a difference
With the combination of these reg tweaks settings at the end of a working day my Dual is at 65%-70% before it was 30% - 40%
Settings/Usage:
Band - 3G
Web - 1 hour day
Music via BT Headsets - 90min
Calls - about 20-30min
Please post your comments here!
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
P.S. Raid Since I flashed to HTCAsia WEE ROM, to maintain long battery life, I have had to revert to 4 instead of 3 (that I had on my previous Orange UK ROM) on the the following reg tweaks you posted on this thread: -
Settings for HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\Default
Do you know what is PPTP or L2TP???
Why you think, it can helps to save Power?
PPTP and L2TP is a Tunneling Protokol! You only need them, if you open a VPN Tunnel to a Privat Network. If you change settings and you doesnt use the buildin VPN functions, you will save what??? Nothing ... yes ... nothing is the only right answer!
If some guys want realy check his power consuming ... please use a Amp Meter and a Datalocker for long time messurments!
Next ... if some guys change here Radio Rom ... possible they save Power! What Radio Version was in his Dual???
This are importent questions!
Sorry for my bad English but this tweaks are pure nonsens!!!
NetrunnerAT said:
Do you know what is PPTP or L2TP???
Why you think, it can helps to save Power?
PPTP and L2TP is a Tunneling Protokol! You only need them, if you open a VPN Tunnel to a Privat Network. If you change settings and you doesnt use the buildin VPN functions, you will save what??? Nothing ... yes ... nothing is the only right answer!
If some guys want realy check his power consuming ... please use a Amp Meter and a Datalocker for long time messurments!
Next ... if some guys change here Radio Rom ... possible they save Power! What Radio Version was in his Dual???
This are importent questions!
Sorry for my bad English but this tweaks are pure nonsens!!!
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LOL! NetrunnerAT I can see you are very opinionated person! FYI yes I do know what PPTP and L2TP are!!!! what part you don't understand when I said I TESTED these tweaks, in fact tested it over week with and without the reg tweak just to make sure they really did make a difference, I know on paper these tweak should not make a blind bit of difference but they did!! maybe I've got a very special dual MY PRECIOUS!!!!
Realy???
Very Strange ... for Windows CE 5.0 you can buy a Technical Document for the Registry Hives. They are simulare. It say ... if you Open a Tunnel, you can disable the Powermanagement. The reason is easy ... VPN Tunnel need a up and running connection. If your device close it, for saveing power ... the session keys are invalid. New IKE exchange is needed!! A normal Handy doesnt use it!
Italian touch dual:
before:30% at the end of the day
after:40% at the end of the day(i obviously tried the mod for several days to avoid casual alteration due to a different usage of the device)
1hr phone
.5hr web
some casual gaming/mp3/movie
2g/3g auto select, so it eventually switch when there's 3g coverage
usually recharge when batttery approximately goes to 10%
BT always on
now, could anyone kindly explain what these registry mods really do??
i haven't noticed any issue till now.
same for me
i have abt 10% more battery.
i realized, that bluetooth really sucks battery. If I disable bt i have 60-70% left at the end of the day. with bluetooth 30-40%.
butr isn't that a shame? a new battery which I have to charge every day? what do i have to do in 6 month? charge it three times a day?
arjov said:
now, could anyone kindly explain what these registry mods really do??
i haven't noticed any issue till now.
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what keys you mean?
The BT Settings change the Working Profile of the BT Stack.
well first of all i apoligize for my english..
so.. i have problem with my herald with battery drain.. i dont know what's the problem. ive tryed pdaviet 1933 and 1938 bulids, 3 versions of Touch-it and my own touch-less compilation but i every rom average power consumption is ~200ma instead of 30 (from wizard or universal) and battery is dying in 10-12 hours...
i am sure that is not any of 3rd party apps that i installed.. some process must use cpu all time. sometimes (but rarely) it falls to ~50ma (checking with acb powermeter) but i dont know when or why...
i cant find any wm5 rom in net :/ i mean ANY.. i want to try is this problem exist only on wm6 and maybe it is possible to cook wm6 rom with some files from wm5..
my unit have signs of fall and maybe it is hardware problem but i googled problem and i see i'm not alone
please - if someone have wm5 rom on harddrive please upload it and send me link.. well i cant use rapidshare at home..
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/TaskMgr/
this task manager let you see the processes
i know this prog and killed every process that is not needed for system to work.. :/
i have tried to disable some devices and services but i doesnt have much time to test every single file.. first of all i want to try wm5 to check that the problem exist there or not..
Which Radio ROM are you using? That might be the problem.
no, thats not problem - ive used some 2.9x (i dont remember) and now 3.0x but powerconsumption is too big even in flight mode. its diffrent kind of problem..
ivanmmj said:
Which Radio ROM are you using? That might be the problem.
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Yes, that can be one problem. Older radio versions can result in unneccessary power-drain. But mine reads +105 to +115mA when idle. CPU usage is 2-4% when idle. I don't know the stats of wizard/universal, but, battery life of my unit is just fine. Lasts me a full working day with ~10% left to spare
My radio is the latest(03.07.90)
so imagine that wizard (almost same hardware) can have power consumption less than 30mA.. so can live 3-4days...
and service manual for herald claims that power consumption in idle mode must be less the 50 (as far as i remember) or you must replace MB
my battery is ust 5days old(bought a new one few days ago from boxwave)
edit: WM5 dopod official ROM is there on the FTP(i hope so)(uploads>herald)
<i'm stupid> i didnt checked uploads folder... :S thanks! currnetly downloading but i am going to work :/
thats not battery, bt, wifi, 3rdparty software or hardware problem. all heralds wm6 have huge power consumption and i dont know why... i'll check wm5 tomorow..
@slimag: first check if this drain is there in wm5 too If yes, I'll be going straight back to WM5, if it can give me 3days battery life
kdskamal said:
Yes, that can be one problem. Older radio versions can result in unneccessary power-drain. But mine reads +105 to +115mA when idle. CPU usage is 2-4% when idle. I don't know the stats of wizard/universal, but, battery life of my unit is just fine. Lasts me a full working day with ~10% left to spare
My radio is the latest(03.07.90)
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The newest radio actually drains more battery...
I've had my Herald at 8mA...
Most of the time it's between 30-200mA when I'm overclocking...
ivanmmj said:
The newest radio actually drains more battery...
I've had my Herald at 8mA...
Most of the time it's between 30-200mA when I'm overclocking...
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But, ivan, even with the flight mode, it is reported that there is not (much) change in mA consumption
kdskamal said:
But, ivan, even with the flight mode, it is reported that there is not (much) change in mA consumption
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Everyone's best guess is that it's a bug with the radio attempting to regain a signal even when in flightmode.
so which radio do you recomend? i had 2.97 before and onestly i dont see any diffrence after upgrade. i'll try 2.94.
and the funny thing - i disassemled my herald and clean every part and now its not 180-200ma but 100-150
next day. next rom, next radio... no diffrence :/ i didint checked wm5 yet but i flashed my herald with 2.94 radiorom and powerconsumption is still at ~180...
whole day and lowest point was 130ma.. quite anoying..
slimag said:
next day. next rom, next radio... no diffrence :/ i didint checked wm5 yet but i flashed my herald with 2.94 radiorom and powerconsumption is still at ~180...
whole day and lowest point was 130ma.. quite anoying..
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Have you checked the WM5 rom and experienced the same drain?
kdskamal said:
Have you checked the WM5 rom and experienced the same drain?
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no :/ i've got crazy week and passed only 2 of 6 exams yet... i've got 3 cooked roms (on my own) and thats wm5. i tried once to flash with wm5 but i'm stupid and i've forgot to cut out spl/ipl and then there were new problems with my pc (graphic card just comited suicide..) so i dont know yet..
couple things ive seen..
1) 2.94 radio is batteryfriendly and reception is good.
2) sometimes after reset before i go to bed power consumption is less than 30 (~10mA) and then i receive sms and it jump up to 100mA... :/
3) the only process that take cpu (about 5%) is Shell32.exe . i'm not sure is this primary process but in wizard it takes no more cpu than any other process at idle...
i really need more time.. i've got tousands of ideas for a custom good rom and no time at all...
slimag said:
no :/ i've got crazy week and passed only 2 of 6 exams yet... i've got 3 cooked roms (on my own) and thats wm5. i tried once to flash with wm5 but i'm stupid and i've forgot to cut out spl/ipl and then there were new problems with my pc (graphic card just comited suicide..) so i dont know yet..
couple things ive seen..
1) 2.94 radio is batteryfriendly and reception is good.
2) sometimes after reset before i go to bed power consumption is less than 30 (~10mA) and then i receive sms and it jump up to 100mA... :/
3) the only process that take cpu (about 5%) is Shell32.exe . i'm not sure is this primary process but in wizard it takes no more cpu than any other process at idle...
i really need more time.. i've got tousands of ideas for a custom good rom and no time at all...
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Maybe you just have a faulty phone. It's not happening to most of us and it's across multiple ROMs.
sooo i passed already only two exams and 6 more are waiting for me but i cant wait..
i tried today to flash my device with wm5 once again and i cant make it works... device doesnt boot up (unlike my ported wm6.. it hangs on boot screen for now but i think i can bring it to live in few days)
i cut out wm5 os and make nbh again like for wm6 with htctool and wm6 works but wm5 shows only first boot screen after format fat and after reset its.. well.. its just dont turn on at all.. only way is to go to bootloader again and flash with another rom..
maybe wm5 doesnt wor with ipl/spl 4.xx?
does any one ported any wm6 rom? i'm currenlty trying to make a paradox (from wizard - 37,4mb ram free) works but im thinking about using some files from wm6.1 for hermes.
what files from herald are necessary from xip and from oem drivers?
currently im doing some researches with battery drain caused by camera driver (sk35..) maybe i'll cut out camera from final rom (i dont use it at all)
Hi, I'm new in this forum, and I don't speack English well, so I want to excuse me!
I have the new Touch HD, at the beginning I changed immediately the original ROM with a new one, I installed a lot of programs, and everything woked very well for two weeks, but then I had a big problems with battery...a the first the battery was very good, -10/15% per day, but suddenly after two weeks the battery lose 1% of its charge every 2/5 mintes...if I disconnect the power when the battery is 100%, after one hour without use (and also without wifi, BT and GPS), I have 70% of charge!
I try to change the ROM, a friend suggested me a new upgrade for Radio, but I didn't resolve my problem!
Now I buy a new battery online in htcstore, but if I put my mobile in "Fly mode" the battery work very very good!
I want to say that here normally I have the signal indicator with 2/3 nicks, so the signal is good!
Someone can help me?...someone have my same problem?
Thank you so much fo everything!
Greetings, Eddy
the battery will be used up quickly if your fone is constantly searching in and out for a 3g signal, regardless of 2g signal strength
have you got wifi on?
bluetooth?
a gps app running?
what other apps do you have running in background? some really poll the cpu a lot and will lead to battery drain
other than a dodgy battery, it must be some software running that is using up the battery
Thank you for aswering!
In background normally I have SMS o Contacs, but also if I close every programs in background the battery doesn't work well!
No, Bluetooth is OFF, GPS and WI-FI are OFF, I use telephone just with gsm!
Also when I write message, normally I write a message so long (3/4 messages), after wirting, the battery lost 10%, and I didn't have this problems at the biginning!
I left my mobile on also during the night, and in the morning I had again 100% of charge...now 100% it's a far dream!
try turning off the autoadjust for the screen and setting it at a medium setting, also make sure the backlight turns off after a minute or less.
its a huge screen and will burn up power, although saying that i watched a full length film on my HD the other day and only used 20% in 1.5hrs
if no progs are running in the background and its not a display issue (how have you checked whats running btw? need more than just WM taskmanager, try mem maid or similar) and the problem is not there when in flight mode. then i can only assume its the rom you are using, try another with a different radio rom in it
i found roms with 1.10 radio to be better than 1.09. try this rom (mulitlanguage) works good for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465637
edit: have you got HDTweak installed? its good to configure the data to auto turnoff after 1 minute or so (even in gsm gprs could be running)
I tried to setup the new ROM but I didn't resolve the problem!
If I leave my mobile only with GSM on, without use it, without call and sms, the battery lost 2% in 30 minutes, and it's not normal!
If I use it, change settings, write message, the battery lose 5% in five minutes!
I don't know what I have to do...this mobilie now can't live without a power connection!
I want say also that at the beginning some application in my HTC wanted "HTCAPI.dll" because they didn't found into the mobile...so I found this dll online and I did copy/paste into the directory!
It can gave me problems with battery?....I don't know how it's possible, but I don't know!
Try to buy or borrow another HD battery and compare them. You should know the problem then.
Of course, I alredy bought it online, and I'm waiting to get the shipping!
But it's very strange that a battery stop to work suddenly, but I know that there are a lot of people who have my same problem!
If i were you, i would flash back the original rom and do a hard reset. Then, without installing anything on the device, see if the problem persists.
Thank you ardsar...I want to try....can you tell me, what I have to do to obtain the original product?...without hardspl and new rom?...like the first time that I turned on this HD! Thank you so much!
For example, I have your same SPL and ROM at the moment!
Hi Ardsar, I flashed my ROM and SPL (brand), and now my mobile is like the original but....do you know Teeter?...I played 2 minutes, I completed 3 levels, and from 85% the battery is now at 79%...
Hi guys...yesterday I did a lot ot tests, but without positive results, but I fund out new problems:
1)The bettery lose a lot of charge also if my Blackstone is offline, when I use it with TouchFLO, Teeter, SMS, Settings...everytime!
2)I have near to icon of signal, the simbol of GPRS, but sometimes it changes with the simbol H and with this new symbol, the signal falls and to resolve it, I have to wait a long ore reset the mobile.
Now I'm not sure that the "target" is the battery...I don't know, I changed also the Radio ROM with new last, but the problem is not over!
Before put it into garbage case, someone can suggest me something to try?
...I will never bring it to Assistence HTC, because I will have to wait some months, and I didn't pay 500€ to have it "under repairing"
Do you have SK Tools 4.4.6 or another battery monitor installed?
With SK Tools, you can see under the sys info the current battery use. My usage is in standby with lighted display -100mA. What's normal?
My battery is also very empty. Last evening i had 54%. This morning, the phone was off, no power any more.
No, now I will try this tool!
But I think that you also have problem with battery, becase the firsts days that I had my HD, I left my mobile on the whole night with 100% and in the morning I had 100%...I had 99% at lunch time!And a lot of friends that have this mobile have the battery so strong, like me at the beginning...so...I'm getting angry
i have this problem too. had my HD for 2 weeks coming to 3 now and my battery seems to deplect very fast, totally different when i had it. could be becoz of the wallpaper and 3rd party theme i had
For me, it seems it's a software or anything else that needs so much battery power, perhaps the hotfixes or something else.
Sadly, the whole battery monitor progs don't show the needed power per running process, only the current usage. Can anyone with a "good" battery life cann post his current usage? (For expample with SK Tools System Information/battery supply)
Is the backup battery always at 0%?
Battlog
How about this. You can log your activities and see how much battery current (discharge) each application is using by the ma figure. It produces a .log file but if you change it to .txt you can open it up in a text editor.
Hope it helps.
EDIT: Just found out there is better info on it here on XDA Raphael forum. Credits to PalladiumTD for this app.
Today I tried a new battery, and also with a good battery, I have the same problem...so I think that I have to send my mobile to HTC service and ask for a new one, because it can be an internal problem, maybe of motherboard, radio, or I don't know...but it's sure that is hardware problem!
Did you a hard reset and installed nothing else?
Yes, I did...I alredy unpacked it and monday I will send it to HTC service....I hope that they will sed me a new one....a friend said to me that maybe this problem for them is called DOA (dead on arrived) and in this case they have just to change it!I hope so!....but I don't like...!
I know that I can reset it pushing the volume control ecc.....someone knows it exactly?Thank you!
People with the Htc Hd2 have probably noticed that the battery life is horrific.
As i only really need one day or use out of the phone i found a way that gave me close to 50 hourse with normal usage wich i think is very impressive for a 4,3" screen and a 1gzh Qual snapD proscessor.
what to do:
- Go to settings and home and deactivate HTC sense and ativate Windows Standars.
- Also turn the background lighting to constanly 30% and not on auto (you can go as low as you find appealing, but 30% was perfect for me)
this does mean you have to give up the Htc sense which might not be appealing for some people, but for me it was just fine.
(PS) i had the well known SMS problems aswell, but since i deactivated the HTC sense all my messages have been sendt on time and i have recived all my phone calls, i have tested this for a week now so its all confirmed!
you could get more then 50 hours because my "normal use" contains a lot of phone calling wich drains a lot of battery and even after 50 hours i still had 30% left on the battery. each time!
Cptruck said:
People with the Htc Hd2 have probably noticed that the battery life is horrific.
As i only really need one day or use out of the phone i found a way that gave me close to 50 hourse with normal usage wich i think is very impressive for a 4,3" screen and a 1gzh Qual snapD proscessor.
what to do:
- Go to settings and home and deactivate HTC sense and ativate Windows Standars.
- Also turn the background lighting to constanly 30% and not on auto (you can go as low as you find appealing, but 30% was perfect for me)
this does mean you have to give up the Htc sense which might not be appealing for some people, but for me it was just fine.
(PS) i had the well known SMS problems aswell, but since i deactivated the HTC sense all my messages have been sendt on time and i have recived all my phone calls, i have tested this for a week now so its all confirmed!
you could get more then 50 hours because my "normal use" contains a lot of phone calling wich drains a lot of battery and even after 50 hours i still had 30% left on the battery. each time!
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but I think the HTC sense is very important, it's a main fuction of HD2, I like it.
I wish the factories can develop a more capacity battery
Yes disable Sense and install SBP mobile shell. Faster and lower ram usage =)
Cptruck said:
People with the Htc Hd2 have probably noticed that the battery life is horrific.
As i only really need one day or use out of the phone i found a way that gave me close to 50 hourse with normal usage wich i think is very impressive for a 4,3" screen and a 1gzh Qual snapD proscessor.
what to do:
- Go to settings and home and deactivate HTC sense and ativate Windows Standars.
- Also turn the background lighting to constanly 30% and not on auto (you can go as low as you find appealing, but 30% was perfect for me)
this does mean you have to give up the Htc sense which might not be appealing for some people, but for me it was just fine.
(PS) i had the well known SMS problems aswell, but since i deactivated the HTC sense all my messages have been sendt on time and i have recived all my phone calls, i have tested this for a week now so its all confirmed!
you could get more then 50 hours because my "normal use" contains a lot of phone calling wich drains a lot of battery and even after 50 hours i still had 30% left on the battery. each time!
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With htc sense disabled I cant go to settings. When I click STart button/settings nothing happens
mrfredde said:
Yes disable Sense and install SBP mobile shell. Faster and lower ram usage =)
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HTC Sense checks for location, shows weather animations, clock animations. That all uses battery.
SPB is more efficient and yet more customizable.
danielherrero said:
With htc sense disabled I cant go to settings. When I click STart button/settings nothing happens
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Same thing happens here sms won't open either. But for me its just after i installed SBP mobile shell.. Weird ! :O
mrfredde said:
Same thing happens here sms won't open either. But for me its just after i installed SBP mobile shell.. Weird ! :O
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The settings shortcut will not work in the start menu when Mobileshell is installed, just go through mobileshell's menus to get to the settings. Have you installed the disable HTC messaging cab for when you have sense disabled? This will allow you to use/go to messaging (if you disable HTC messaging you will have to install the Arcsoft MMS client in order to send/receive MMS)
I also disabled senses, because my SMS messages were not arriving?! Very strange..
But with senses off everything goes well.. I hope there will be a fix for sense soon, because it truly is a great piece of software!
(i miss the MP3 player, photo slider, facebook updates on my contact and the direct link to opera )
Disabling sense?
What are the exact steps to disable HTC sense? I goto the today settings but I cannot see any option to disable sense, all I see is two tabs one for changing the background when the device is locked and the other for adding/removing tabs! Please help!!!
Btw if I install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 then is Sense automatically disabled? I suppose it will be since SPB replaces it but with Windows one can never be sure!
iqsoft said:
What are the exact steps to disable HTC sense? I goto the today settings but I cannot see any option to disable sense, all I see is two tabs one for changing the background when the device is locked and the other for adding/removing tabs! Please help!!!
Btw if I install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 then is Sense automatically disabled? I suppose it will be since SPB replaces it but with Windows one can never be sure!
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I haven't done it but I can see how it could be done.
When you get to the Today screen you mentioned, there are two tabs at the bottom left. The first says Appearance and the second says Items. Go to Items which is where you'll see all the today settings listed. It also says that checked items appear on the Today screen. The only one checked in that list is HTC Sense. Presumably, that's where you untick it.
*If anyone knows this to be wrong, please correct me. I wouldn't want to be giving out incorrect information.*
Quick one to all who have disabled sense - is HTC Keyboard still working after?
I am also considering turning of sense.
What should I setup to have windows phone 6.5 home screen? (Zune like)
Thx
Just as a matter of interest, why don't you all just try it and see if this works or that works?
If it's not to your liking then re enable sense!
I am dissatisfied with the hd2 battery, don't know what to do, mine only lasts for 1.5 day for normal usage. I think htc should work more on developing the battery technology, something like SAMSUNG phones.
About the tips and ways to have more battery life, I don't know what is the point here:you deactivate all features you have in a bloody expensive phone, and make it like a Nokia 1100 to have more battery? u can simply buy a Nokia 1100 and save ur money while you enjoy 4-5 days battery life!
What I am saying is that if we have to deactivate htc sense, weather animation, location services and make the screen less bright to use the phone for 3 days, then why should I buy a phone which has these capabilities?!
I want a long time battery, while I wanna enjoy my device. I am waiting for a better battery to be offered from htc, something like 9-cell battery for laptops.
1.5 days is fantastic for a smartphone which provides the functionalities of a laptop
id be happy if mine would last the day instead of charging it when i get home at 5pm
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I am dissatisfied with the hd2 battery, don't know what to do, mine only lasts for 1.5 day for normal usage. I think htc should work more on developing the battery technology, something like SAMSUNG phones.
About the tips and ways to have more battery life, I don't know what is the point here:you deactivate all features you have in a bloody expensive phone, and make it like a Nokia 1100 to have more battery? u can simply buy a Nokia 1100 and save ur money while you enjoy 4-5 days battery life!
What I am saying is that if we have to deactivate htc sense, weather animation, location services and make the screen less bright to use the phone for 3 days, then why should I buy a phone which has these capabilities?!
I want a long time battery, while I wanna enjoy my device. I am waiting for a better battery to be offered from htc, something like 9-cell battery for laptops.
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Very nicely said with Nokia 1100 example... nothing to add here buddy!!!
I disabled data connection overnight (BsB Tweaks, then shut off data connection) and I only lost 5% battery for 6-7 hours. Turned it on in the morning and barely used the phone and I've lost over 50% in about 11 hours. Only used about 10 minutes of talk time, no web checking. I have outlook and hotmail configured. MS Push was disabled. I have the Docs Indexer disabled installed.
To my sudo-quick-test it seems 3g is killing the phone.
to save battery life i off all the auto updates. i update 'em manually, with this and my ROM/Radio i can last 2 days average and 3 days max
I also thought battery life was a disaster then read in some post that bluetooth was draining batt, tried to turn it of and voila. before it was beetween 0-10% when i was home by 5 and now it is 35-50%.
I don´t like that i "can´t" use the things that is availabale on phone because that´s why i bought it. I had it for about four months now and it feels like nothings ever gonna happen that´s solves the problems, this, the sms prob and that it freezes is my things that can driving me insain, but somehow i just love it anyway
i thing people have to understand that battery technology has not really been developed or improved recently.. so you're using a high tech device with a old/low tech battery, so unless they make the battery big/fat, ur probably only gonna get a day or so of battery life. good example is hd2's standard n extended battery. the extended battery is somethin like 2000+ mAh, but its fat. spoiling the sleek look of the hd2. and bout samsung, its probably cause their screens are bit smaller n the batteries are around 1500mAh compared to hd2's 1230mAh? One thing i dont understand though is why the hd2's standard battery couldnt be buffed up just a tiny bit to at least 1500mAh..
When I flashed CleanEx it improved my battery time. Touch X-Treme did the same thing. Also you should deactivate all auto-update stuff.
Then it could be that your HTC HD2 lasts a day
I know theres alot of topics about battery drain, and some methods have worked for some, but I am still stuck in the loop.
I'm using Back to the Future (XBmod-Yuki/7740) - and have tried The Camera Trick, 2.12 Radio, and Registry tweak (battery indicator) and all have failed, i get around 8-10 hours battey on minimal use, (Facebook app for 30min and 8/9 text msgs) [note: 3g and Data on]
and I was wondering is anyone noticing any difference on other wp7 roms? or is that rom specific?
Thanks in advance
Apparently i've got the same issue as you, I got 3 hours off it with intensive use today ( 2.12 radio, no battery fix, but it was draned down to zero )
I'm also using the back to the future rom ( But it's registered as 7720 )
My device is eastern europeian.
I'm back on winmo
i will try wp7 again (HD2O) (7740) but with different SD cards, hopefully i get a lil better life
ill let you knw how that goes
bash18 said:
I'm back on winmo
i will try wp7 again (HD2O) (7740) but with different SD cards, hopefully i get a lil better life
ill let you knw how that goes
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And i'm gonna get an android SD these days to compare.
with lightly use, my HD2 WP7(Back to the future 7740) ate battery so quick. I'm trying to flash pdaimatejam's v2. Hope to get some changes.
Okay to CONFIRM
Booted pdaimatejam's v2 on lexmar 8gb (class 4 )
Radio: 2.12
and so far used 10hours
and still 54% battery remaining
3g and data is ON!
Location OFF
Live Tiles disables (have to manually update hotmail etc, no push)
Tooks round 40pics, used FB app (Biggest drain)
and few small video clips (2.mins each)
also 70-100 txts snt and recieved
im happy now
yeah i was struggling with battery life for a while too.
the camera trick seems to have helped a lot. i get almost 2 days with normal use with location, 3g and data all turned off. i am going to do the registry trick, then turn location, 3g and data back on to see if anything changes.
EDIT: the registry editor that works with mango does not allow me access to these registry files. oh well.
Android SD was still not the best I've tried. while the ROM had more battery life then yuki's back to the future, it still left me 30 minutes before I was ready to let it go.
Today on WP7 i got 3.5 hours with: the camera trick,(Switch to video and leave it running, right?) also no 3g no Wi-Fi and no Location/Bluetooth. Brightness all the way down ( snowy weather ) . Where can I find the instructions/guide to installing pdaimatejam's or is it included in the download?
Do we have to use camera trick every time we reboot HD2? How about the reset command from MDLDR menu? Do we need use it every time we replace battery?
larryexchange said:
Do we have to use camera trick every time we reboot HD2? How about the reset command from MDLDR menu? Do we need use it every time we replace battery?
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reboot should be fine, bt i tried the HD20 rom over last few days (radio 2.15) and battery drain whilst standby is AMAZING! with 3g on over night it drained like 5-7% battery, but when using browser, whats app etc battery drains too much :S