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37 hours and still at 74%

Morning all.
just thought I'd share the above with you. Been 37 hours since I charged my phone and my batery is saying 74%. I've sent maybe 50 texts, had 20 mins of phone calls, push email for about 12 hours and bluetooth about 12 hours.
The secret, is to only turn on things you need when you need them!!
I'm using PhoneAlarm to change the status of my phone depending on where I am/what I'm doing.
it's unlikely that anyone is going to phone me at 3 in the morning or send me a text (I prefer not to be woken up) so at midnight my phone goes into flight mode, and turns back on at 6.30. I don't turn the phone off as then the alarm doesn't sounds. I don't need push email when I'm at work so between 8am and 5.30 pm, push email is disabled. Also I don't need bluetooth when I'm at work (I only use BT to connect to my car)...and so on .
I can easily turn the various functions back on with a button here and there, but the batery life I'm getting far outweighs any inconvenience of having to hit a button to turn things on or off.

Just be in touch that the battery drains faster at the end than at the beginning... so i don't think you would have 37 hours -- 3/4 so you could stay 37 x 4 = 148 hours with your phone...
But i agree... the battery is cool !! I don't even imagine with a good extended battery to 2500 mAh !
Ciao
Fred

I agree it does drain faster towards the end, but still...3 days battery life is more than acceptable.

That's pretty good! The best i got was 59% after 1.5 days.. then it less than 10 hours later i was up to 10%.
Battery life is dreadful.

62 hours
54%

I've been using HTC products for a long time. Surprisingly HTC HD has the best battery.

Yet another useless topic, lots of topics about the HD battery, please use them instead of opening more topics, that would make this forum easy to search.

PJMDS said:
Yet another useless topic, lots of topics about the HD battery, please use them instead of opening more topics, that would make this forum easy to search.
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he's just sharing.
cheers and happy new year dude.

Wow, is that HD running on Kryptonite???
I would love to get a battery that lasts 48 hours
Maybe a stupid question, but how do you manage that the phone switches to flightmode on a fixed time?

Not useless - Add to Tips and Tricks List
I was unaware of this approach for turning various services on and off and to me it makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure I would have seen it if it had been buried in another post... I would recommend this get added to the Tips and Tricks list as its a real winner!

eAzYE666 said:
Wow, is that HD running on Kryptonite???
I would love to get a battery that lasts 48 hours
Maybe a stupid question, but how do you manage that the phone switches to flightmode on a fixed time?
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He mentionned Phonealarm, so i think that's it.
Ciao
Fred

frederikk said:
He mentionned Phonealarm, so i think that's it.
Ciao
Fred
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Is this a free program? It sounds like a good idea for me too... turn WiFi and Bluetooth off during the day Mon-Fri and during the night!
Bound to save a bit of power, and then I could hopefully charge every 2 days instead of every night!

Try using http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows_mobile_pocket_pc/phoneweaver.
It's not free but works great and has also large buttons to toggle bluetooth and wireless.

just tried phonealarm too, but somehow it will not switch profile on fixed times?
are you running it with TF3D? if so how do i enable it
also with the default skin pressing the wireless button activates bluetooth and not wireless.

Yeah i tried PA too and it don't switches alarms on time too - how did you set it up ? Also the location in extras dont work - did you get it up and running ?

I use the bugger too much to get anything over a day and a half.

kremator said:
Yeah i tried PA too and it don't switches alarms on time too - how did you set it up ? Also the location in extras dont work - did you get it up and running ?
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PA won't work with Manila, it only works if the TodayPlugin is running.
For a better solution try SPB PhoneSuite.
http://beta.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/phonesuite/
Runs as service and works fine under manila.

As I said earlier try using http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows...pc/phoneweaver.

Vanstra said:
As I said earlier try using http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows...pc/phoneweaver.
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There are 2 options to get Phone Alram to work with Touch Flo
Option 1
Install phone alarm
Deselect Manila from the Today screen and select phone alarm
Phone alarm will now be displayed on the home screen. Go into phone laram settings, click advanced and select touch flo support.
Touch flo / today screen can now be toggled from the left soft key.
Option 2
Install SecondToday (free) to give you 2 "Today screens"
I have used option 2, but have recently changed to option 1. Both work great.
Phoneweaver is ok, but the functionality of Phone Alarm is far superior - guess it depends what you want it to do.

Option 1
Install phone alarm
Deselect Manila from the Today screen and select phone alarm
Phone alarm will now be displayed on the home screen. Go into phone laram settings, click advanced and select touch flo support.
Touch flo / today screen can now be toggled from the left soft key.
Option 2
Install SecondToday (free) to give you 2 "Today screens"
I have used option 2, but have recently changed to option 1. Both work great.
Phoneweaver is ok, but the functionality of Phone Alarm is far superior - guess it depends what you want it to do.
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both options keep phonealarm running and working while TouchFlo is enabled?

Battery Problem Blackstone

Hi, I'm new in this forum, and I don't speack English well, so I want to excuse me!
I have the new Touch HD, at the beginning I changed immediately the original ROM with a new one, I installed a lot of programs, and everything woked very well for two weeks, but then I had a big problems with battery...a the first the battery was very good, -10/15% per day, but suddenly after two weeks the battery lose 1% of its charge every 2/5 mintes...if I disconnect the power when the battery is 100%, after one hour without use (and also without wifi, BT and GPS), I have 70% of charge!
I try to change the ROM, a friend suggested me a new upgrade for Radio, but I didn't resolve my problem!
Now I buy a new battery online in htcstore, but if I put my mobile in "Fly mode" the battery work very very good!
I want to say that here normally I have the signal indicator with 2/3 nicks, so the signal is good!
Someone can help me?...someone have my same problem?
Thank you so much fo everything!
Greetings, Eddy

the battery will be used up quickly if your fone is constantly searching in and out for a 3g signal, regardless of 2g signal strength
have you got wifi on?
bluetooth?
a gps app running?
what other apps do you have running in background? some really poll the cpu a lot and will lead to battery drain
other than a dodgy battery, it must be some software running that is using up the battery

Thank you for aswering!
In background normally I have SMS o Contacs, but also if I close every programs in background the battery doesn't work well!
No, Bluetooth is OFF, GPS and WI-FI are OFF, I use telephone just with gsm!
Also when I write message, normally I write a message so long (3/4 messages), after wirting, the battery lost 10%, and I didn't have this problems at the biginning!
I left my mobile on also during the night, and in the morning I had again 100% of charge...now 100% it's a far dream!

try turning off the autoadjust for the screen and setting it at a medium setting, also make sure the backlight turns off after a minute or less.
its a huge screen and will burn up power, although saying that i watched a full length film on my HD the other day and only used 20% in 1.5hrs
if no progs are running in the background and its not a display issue (how have you checked whats running btw? need more than just WM taskmanager, try mem maid or similar) and the problem is not there when in flight mode. then i can only assume its the rom you are using, try another with a different radio rom in it
i found roms with 1.10 radio to be better than 1.09. try this rom (mulitlanguage) works good for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465637
edit: have you got HDTweak installed? its good to configure the data to auto turnoff after 1 minute or so (even in gsm gprs could be running)

I tried to setup the new ROM but I didn't resolve the problem!
If I leave my mobile only with GSM on, without use it, without call and sms, the battery lost 2% in 30 minutes, and it's not normal!
If I use it, change settings, write message, the battery lose 5% in five minutes!
I don't know what I have to do...this mobilie now can't live without a power connection!

I want say also that at the beginning some application in my HTC wanted "HTCAPI.dll" because they didn't found into the mobile...so I found this dll online and I did copy/paste into the directory!
It can gave me problems with battery?....I don't know how it's possible, but I don't know!

Try to buy or borrow another HD battery and compare them. You should know the problem then.

Of course, I alredy bought it online, and I'm waiting to get the shipping!
But it's very strange that a battery stop to work suddenly, but I know that there are a lot of people who have my same problem!

If i were you, i would flash back the original rom and do a hard reset. Then, without installing anything on the device, see if the problem persists.

Thank you ardsar...I want to try....can you tell me, what I have to do to obtain the original product?...without hardspl and new rom?...like the first time that I turned on this HD! Thank you so much!
For example, I have your same SPL and ROM at the moment!

Hi Ardsar, I flashed my ROM and SPL (brand), and now my mobile is like the original but....do you know Teeter?...I played 2 minutes, I completed 3 levels, and from 85% the battery is now at 79%...

Hi guys...yesterday I did a lot ot tests, but without positive results, but I fund out new problems:
1)The bettery lose a lot of charge also if my Blackstone is offline, when I use it with TouchFLO, Teeter, SMS, Settings...everytime!
2)I have near to icon of signal, the simbol of GPRS, but sometimes it changes with the simbol H and with this new symbol, the signal falls and to resolve it, I have to wait a long ore reset the mobile.
Now I'm not sure that the "target" is the battery...I don't know, I changed also the Radio ROM with new last, but the problem is not over!
Before put it into garbage case, someone can suggest me something to try?
...I will never bring it to Assistence HTC, because I will have to wait some months, and I didn't pay 500€ to have it "under repairing"

Do you have SK Tools 4.4.6 or another battery monitor installed?
With SK Tools, you can see under the sys info the current battery use. My usage is in standby with lighted display -100mA. What's normal?
My battery is also very empty. Last evening i had 54%. This morning, the phone was off, no power any more.

No, now I will try this tool!
But I think that you also have problem with battery, becase the firsts days that I had my HD, I left my mobile on the whole night with 100% and in the morning I had 100%...I had 99% at lunch time!And a lot of friends that have this mobile have the battery so strong, like me at the beginning...so...I'm getting angry

i have this problem too. had my HD for 2 weeks coming to 3 now and my battery seems to deplect very fast, totally different when i had it. could be becoz of the wallpaper and 3rd party theme i had

For me, it seems it's a software or anything else that needs so much battery power, perhaps the hotfixes or something else.
Sadly, the whole battery monitor progs don't show the needed power per running process, only the current usage. Can anyone with a "good" battery life cann post his current usage? (For expample with SK Tools System Information/battery supply)
Is the backup battery always at 0%?

Battlog
How about this. You can log your activities and see how much battery current (discharge) each application is using by the ma figure. It produces a .log file but if you change it to .txt you can open it up in a text editor.
Hope it helps.
EDIT: Just found out there is better info on it here on XDA Raphael forum. Credits to PalladiumTD for this app.

Today I tried a new battery, and also with a good battery, I have the same problem...so I think that I have to send my mobile to HTC service and ask for a new one, because it can be an internal problem, maybe of motherboard, radio, or I don't know...but it's sure that is hardware problem!

Did you a hard reset and installed nothing else?

Yes, I did...I alredy unpacked it and monday I will send it to HTC service....I hope that they will sed me a new one....a friend said to me that maybe this problem for them is called DOA (dead on arrived) and in this case they have just to change it!I hope so!....but I don't like...!
I know that I can reset it pushing the volume control ecc.....someone knows it exactly?Thank you!

battery frustration

hallo everyone
usually I have during all day thephone switched off because if I press the red button to switch off the screen after a while I noticed that the battery continue to use resources
so I completely switch off my phone during the day and every time I want to use I have to wait a lot of time.On this site there are a lot of information but I would like just to know
if exist a way to use my phone all day with the internet connection. the onlytrick I use is to lower the light, but during the day is quite frustrating to change the setting every time.On the forum there is now a thread to boost the performance but I do not know if there will b be some changes on the registry,s key that could make my system unstable
I would like to know if there is a way to take my phone open twelve hours for day without changing the rom that is quite complex for me, any way in the case I will decide to change a rom what is the most save battery solution. sorry if my question is really newbe but I can not easily extrapolate these info with the search engine

Switching off your phone during the day is really very extreme and to me ridiculous.While idling on standby your phone should not go through much power at all - overnight (8 hours), most phones go through 3% - 5% so switching it off during the day really won't make a difference. If your phone is doing more than this then there is another problem that you have (try taking the micro sd card out to see if that is the cause). Using the internet with the screen on and wifi on constantly, I would guess would give you about 5 - 6 hours of use although I haven't tried it.
Changing ROM isn't necessary.

soft -resets!!!!!!
try taking your phone out and 'feel' the battary temperature. (I do it by putting phone on my face)... if you feel something strange is going on or the phone is just warmer than usual do a soft reset... that is what I usually do and it helps me preventing the drainage issue a lot. hope it works on you.

ok thank
but in the case I changed the rom it is true that I could use the phone also tree four days mk
and another curiosity to facilitate the cook rom procedure could I use a backup put
online by an user using a backup software MK
CHEERS Z

My HTC Leo BATTERY!

Hello guys.
I got an HTC HD2 and I dont know if its a regular issue but my battery decreases like 10% in about 1 hour (LOL).
Dont know if maybe it's some program running in the background or something like that.
I got the following programs installed:
EasySetOwner
BSB Tweaks
touchscreen tweak
PHM Reg editor
G-Alarm
Microsoft NETFRAME 3.5
and some HTC hotfixes (which i guess wont mess up with the battery at all)
Help? :X

Is wi-fi on all the time ? Switch it off when not in use.
Is bluetooth enabled all the time ? Switch it off when not in use.
Is push mail or similar apps set too frequent to get update ?
Is the phone band set to 3G (UMTS) or GSM ? 3G drains battery faster than GSM.
Use Taskmanager to see what other apps are running.
Just some pointers I hope that can help to conserve/stretch battery life.

3g
it s most probally beacuse of you r 3g connection try installing a auto disconnect cab or edit the reg ,
try the following below , worked for me when i had my leo
the cabs are not my work all credit should got to the orginal creaters

sneak3 said:
Hello guys.
I got an HTC HD2 and I dont know if its a regular issue but my battery decreases like 10% in about 1 hour (LOL).
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Mine too. Is your's new? I've only done a couple of charge/discharge cycles, so I'm hoping that it gets a little better with time.

ATTENTION! Xperia X10 battery problem SOLVED once and for all! Not kidding

Hi fellow Xperia X10 owners!
Ive got my device now for 4 weeks and in the beginning my battery only lasted for like ... 5-6 hours max ? I got so annoyed i did some research on how to solve it, and to be honest.. ive seen MANY post and MANY solutions but none of them really worked or they were not explained detailed enough to make any sense .. after many useless tweaks i got my battery to last like 12 hours, and that is by just making like 1-2 phone calls and some messages, nothing more, left aside when i made photo's or used the web... so my device was still useless.
Then i started using "advanced task killer" and the auto-kill feature, but that didnt realy solved much so i installed "task cleaner" but that didnt do much either.
Now after 3 days trying to find out what the problem is, i finally came to the solution !!!
Many post suggest using "advanced task killer" but none of them really gave the perfect settings for it, well i finally found them out myself
The settings i use : Auto Kill Level ==> Aggressive
Auto kill Frequency => When screen off
Security Level ==> Low
And now for the first time EVER! my phone can last like 3-5 days without recharging!
Additional tweaks are: 2G only
disabling WIFI and Bluethooth
disable GPS and positioning
Disabling these 3 doesnt realy make any problems since you can access them quickly by using the "networking widget" so i dont care
also put screen brightness to auto adjust and all these other minor things you hear in all the other posts, i am not going to list them once more.
Ive made some photo's for you to see for yourself
I'm a new user so i cant post links yet.. so you will have to copy it
w w w.photoshack. com /index.php?cat=26302 (kill the spaces)
I'm not trying to fool you or anything, i'm honest
(its in Dutch btw)
Time since last Charge says : 4Hr 14min 11sec
And my battery level indicates 100%
At this moment it says 5hr 9min 10 sec and i just entered the 99% zone
i didnt really made any calls or anything, i just checked once in a while how my battery was doing so it was basically running idle but i am still Very impressed!
I'il let you know how it turns out tomorrow etc, after ive made some calls and stuff
Good luck to all of you and i hope your search to happiness is finally complete!
And yes i'm dutch so dont blame my spelling ^^
Regards, clintax

thx for your info, i'll try your setting now

interesting idea, but I think we need to go through the list of what it is closing down in case you want to keep anything running. I Will test your settings and see how it does.
I was just using Kill level - aggressive with security level - medium and it was doing ok. Nothing spectacular but at least I could go all day without needing a charge or battery swap.

i was wondering. What exactly did you auto kill on advanced task manager?
I keep looking and looking there is nothing particular i want to kill.

I'll try this out and see how it goes by tomorrow. And by the way are you using helix launcher, gde or anything? Or is this the only thing you're doing?
I set the level to medium instead of low, we'll see how it goes.

I've followed all of your guidelines, but when I set ATK Auto Kill Frequency to "Screen Off", it immediately turns the screen back on after turning it off. After letting it sit and naturally time out screen off, it immediately turns the screen back on... Vicious power-draining cycle.
Is there some other tweak that I'm missing in your post?

@clintax, I'm pretty sure that the real reason that you see this improvement is because you have basically disabled all your networking facilities.
I have wifi turned on (never turn off when plugged in), GPS is turned on (which is the best because it doesnt consume any power unless some app uses it), bluetooth is off (but can turn on on request via settings widget).
My phone lasts me over 12 hours, which is sufficient to cover a normal work day, I use it in the metro to read books, I check news and feeds occasionally. I use push email so that I get instant notifications.
Personally, I dont think using task killer applications to kill apps is the only factor in the improvements you report. Usually, whenever I check my battery usage, applications+android system are usually under 5% in total.
I'm pretty sure my battery will last longer if I follow your example, but my phone wouldnt be half as useful as it is now. I really dont mind charging it overnight.
Cheers!
j4mm3r

followed your instructions but didnt get help. actually, my major battery drains on radio and standby. the 2 items always takes more than 50% of the total drainage.
look forward to the comments from all of you.

Didn't see any improvements either. I usually get 25h+ without running any task killers or start auditors, with 3g always on and medium to hard usage of the phone, which I'm pretty happy with. So I think its the settings of the data and radio that drain the battery, not the applications.

As a fellow Dutchman I'll share my part
Well I've tried most stuff already on my X10 and the only stuff I can really find that drains my battery are faulty apps (or at least in combination with the X10), GPS and searching for network when I'm out of reach (which is seldom).
I've currently disabled Beautiful Widget using the Startup Auditor, because at some point it starts killing my phone by running 100% and not letting my phone go to sleep. And this is what I meant by faulty apps (or in conjunction with the phone/OS).
3G is always enabled (what would be the use of this phone if you would disable all features which makes a smartphone useful).
Network based location enabled (now using it for the Weather & Toggle app).
No taskkillers running whatsoever.
Running Helix Launcher2 as home with seven screens.
Sending 20 to 30 textmessages, browsing the internet for 30 minutes (half with wifi/ half without), some calls about 30 minutes, toying a lot on the phone two hours plus, some Google Maps navigation 15 minutes with GPS enabled.
This will get me two days of usage easily.
Oh and running R1FB001 at the moment but had these results already with the R1EA016.

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well yea, i installed helix launcher yesterday but i uninstalled it right away because i didnt like it so much.
Well to be honest, before i used the agressive settings etc on ATK, i used the same settings on the rest of my device
Wich are
-Only 2G
-No WIFI or bluethooth on
-Gps off
-autosync off
-dissabled auto-update, and put it on manual
-deleted the cash of moxier, timescape, mediascape in settings->my applications, and removed there icons from the homescreen
-screen brightness on auto
I suggest you take a look at this video from sony, wich explains it more detailed
(cant post links yet)
w w w .youtube. com/watch?v=P3H--BLPQnI (kill spaces)
and my battery still drained atleast 3-4% hr if not more, it is only from WHEN i started using these settings in ATK that my battery life improved like 500%!
BTW as for what features it kills by doing so i dont know yet, but at this moment everything still works perfectly
At this moment i have 14hr 23min 31 sec and 96% battery left, i'il post another pic for you guys.
Here are the new Pics: w w w.photoshack. com/thumbnails.php?album=10356 (kill spaces)
Cheerz

Well the important part off all this was Security Level ==> Low
it shows you like 3x more things running on you phone then normal, and i just killed them all except: Ignore list= ATK, Xperia Flashlight, Alarm, VizBattery, Handcent Sms and taskpanel, but i dont realy use taskpanel anymore
I am still trying to find out what it actually kills in particular but i heavent found any problems yet

imir said:
Didn't see any improvements either. I usually get 25h+ without running any task killers or start auditors, with 3g always on and medium to hard usage of the phone, which I'm pretty happy with. So I think its the settings of the data and radio that drain the battery, not the applications.
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I had two "battery cycles" where the battery lasted 48 hours with my normal usage (Moxier+Gmail in push, 3G data, no WiFi, some Bluetooth while driving the car, no GPS). I noticed that because I usually have a 24 hour duration, and at the end of the day, when I put the phone charging while I sleep, I still had more that 60% of the battery instead of the usual 15%! So I decided to not recharge overnight and so I get about 48 hours both times.
The third cycle lasted even more, about 60 hours!!!
However, starting from the fourth cycle... back to 20 hours, or even less... I have not changed anything, I'm not even using task killers... I really don't know what is wrong with this phone (the problem is not the battery itself, I tried with 2 original SE battery + the mugen).

clintax said:
well yea, i installed helix launcher yesterday but i uninstalled it right away because i didnt like it so much.
Well to be honest, before i used the agressive settings etc on ATK, i used the same settings on the rest of my device
Wich are
-Only 2G
-No WIFI or bluethooth on
-Gps off
-autosync off
-dissabled auto-update, and put it on manual
-deleted the cash of moxier, timescape, mediascape in settings->my applications, and removed there icons from the homescreen
-screen brightness on auto
I suggest you take a look at this video from sony, wich explains it more detailed
(cant post links yet)
w w w .youtube. com/watch?v=P3H--BLPQnI (kill spaces)
and my battery still drained atleast 3-4% hr if not more, it is only from WHEN i started using these settings in ATK that my battery life improved like 500%!
BTW as for what features it kills by doing so i dont know yet, but at this moment everything still works perfectly
At this moment i have 14hr 23min 31 sec and 96% battery left, i'il post another pic for you guys.
Here are the new Pics: w w w.photoshack. com/thumbnails.php?album=10356 (kill spaces)
Cheerz
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Wow, the performance is just amazing. I suggest you start to use the phone instead of keeping it idle. Then you can share with us how the battery performs, thanks.

Which version of Advanced Task Killer are you using? as i have just checked mine and do not have the option to kill when screen is off
I have version 1.7.4 build46

piercewei said:
Wow, the performance is just amazing. I suggest you start to use the phone instead of keeping it idle. Then you can share with us how the battery performs, thanks.
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Hehe ty, well yea i am using the phone as much as i can, but at this moment i have exams and my social life came to a minimum which looks like i almost have no friend left ^^ but tomorrow i got my last one (after frigging 2,5months) HELL YEAH, and from then on i will start using my phone the way i am used to and not having it idle 95% of the time and i'il keep you guys updated as long as i am sober
Ps: 15hr 28min @ 95%
i saw the last link didnt work, i'il try again
h ttp:// w w w.photoshack. com/thumbnails.php?album=lastupby&uid=16302

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MarylandCookie said:
Which version of Advanced Task Killer are you using? as i have just checked mine and do not have the option to kill when screen is off
I have version 1.7.4 build46
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Advanced task killer v1.7.9 build 57 (directly from market)

Ok, so with the settings I used over night, I had a 5% drop over a period of 7 hours sitting idle.
Auto Kill level - Safe
Kill Freq - When Screen Off
Security level - Medium
BT, WIFI and APN - disabled.

I had a 1% drop in like 6/7hrs.. fell asleep whilst using xda, 3g was still running an all..
I just use taskpanel
Wifi, gps, bluetooth & auto sync off
also Adw launcher
Edit.. Firmware 016 (only cause I can't remember the rest lolz)
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Can people post what firmware they are using when they are posting their battery usage stats etc
Thanks