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After reading all posts: let's try to make a sum

At Christmas I will receive my HTC Touch HD and this is why I have started reading all the Blackstone thread since a month.
That is what I understand so far(correct me if I am wrong):
-Hardware: big screen,a bit less contrast than Diamond, but impressive resolution and really (probably for the first time) user-friendly device
-Battery: better than Diamond's one..up to 2 days of normal use
-Video performance: still a lot of work, but coreplayer works fine with low size movies or videos. At the moment there is no access to the internal GPU and only WMP can play smooth .mp4...big hopes for the future. People disappointed due to high hardware capability not used
-Audio performance: quality comparable to Ipod/Iphone, but TF3d interface has still some bugs to be fixed..however, a lot of 3rd software to choose the software we like most ( S2P for example)
-Camera performance: still a bit confused, it seems to be a "standard" 5mp compared to the level of other devices (nokia or sony-ericsson)...however there is no thread that show exactly the power of this camera with lot of pictures in different environments
-Navigation GPS: few bugs to be fixed, but we can use igo8, Navigon 7 and Tomtom 7 in high resolution
-Customization: like the other wm..you can do really what you want (change today, apply tons of software, etc etc)..there are no limits so far, except the hardware's ones.
-Games: let's say that the TOUCH HD is more a "business device" with media specifics...but still far from Iphone games. Let's hope in the future like for the video performance.
-Development: HSPL not yet released (after we would have a huge choice of ROMs!!!..)...hopefully a christmas gift

worksofart said:
-Battery: better than Diamond's one..up to 2 days of normal use
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That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?

I think you just about summed it up.
It is a really nice device with lots more potential.
I'm sure you won't be disappointed this christmas!!

How do you stop the activesync?

well, im looking for a better solution on the high quality video playback capability lol

something wrong
alex3683 said:
That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
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there's probably something wrong with your device cause i always get over a day and a half at least i mean have a look this has been covered several times snd most members appear to agree that the battery has improved especially in comparison to the kaiser and diamond both very loved handsets

I must confirm, marvi0 is right. The battery should last for over a day to two days when the device is sporadicaly used.
What I see as potentional problems could be these:
1) bad radio version (i remember these issues on HTC Hima with old ROMs, they could drain battery twice fast than usual).
2) some creepy app, that takes too much CPU use. Remember that the more the CPU is used, the more batt is spend. The power-off works that way: it not only turns off screen, it also sends windows to some sort of standby mode, when most of the apps are suspended. But - if some app could not get to this state, it runs on full throttle on the background. I remember such issue with playing with WM5 screensaver and MortScripts. Check your taskbar, what is running there.

My battery now lasts up to 5 x days max if I use Tweak HD suggested settings throughout! This is an excellent App. As per the camera I wish this could be fixed / replaced with something like I originally used on my Trinity since the adaptive zoom/focus causes rapid movement to alwas go blurred, whilst static images or landscapes are fine.

Battery Last 1 n half day
After lots of phone calls, average sms and few songs...Battery Last 1 n half day...
Which is fine for me

max i got from the battery was 3 days only doing a couple of calls and some sms, i don't use any massive tf3d personalization only changed the background image, installed s2u2, crystal clock and optimized the phone cache, but usualy it's around 1 and half, 2 days

My battery went from 100% to 48% in the space of about 8 hours on Sunday as I was doing lots of stuff on it, trying to get apps working, trying things out, installing, uninstalling etc.
I then had the phone on standby all night (was 48% before bed) and it has been on standby most of today with 1 phone call and a bit of video and calculator, and still on 48%

Okay, I now got my battery life up to about two days with some telephony and SMS and bluetooth always turned on by switching of the light sensor and using a fixed setting of two bars for the light when using battery. This is enough (at least for me) to see everything well on the device in every lighting condition.

alex3683 said:
That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
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I'm surprised with your short battery life. I used it almost non-stop and still had 50% left a day later. I find the battery life of HD amazingly good. However, I did took the pain to charge it properly before starting to use it. Although the manual said we need only 3 hours to charge it, I kept unplugging the power when the charge indicator turned green, then plug it in again. I kept repeating this process for about 2 hours after it first turned green. This might have something to do with the long battery life I'm getting, perhaps.

ScarySquirrel said:
My battery went from 100% to 48% in the space of about 8 hours on Sunday as I was doing lots of stuff on it, trying to get apps working, trying things out, installing, uninstalling etc.
I then had the phone on standby all night (was 48% before bed) and it has been on standby most of today with 1 phone call and a bit of video and calculator, and still on 48%
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This is very much in line with my own experience so far.

HTCzar said:
How do you stop the activesync?
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Have a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3036421&postcount=12

Battery Issue 1024LEO

I've been looking around for a long time but I haven't found a way to overcome the hell-like battery drain.
I tried to delete MMtaskmanager from windows/startup, I tried to flash different customized roms, but it doesn't seem that the problem is getting better.
Now I'm with RomeOS ROM 4.05, HSPL 2.08. Battery drain is horrible.
Someone said it might be a problem of HSPL2, but I don't think there is another version of HSPL for 1024LEO available.
May I have any ideas from someone here?
Thanks in advance.

The HSPL is just a bootloader, so I can't see that being the issue. Here is what I did:
- Go into \Windows\StartUp and delete "MMTaskManagerhook.lnk" - this is a big savings according to NRG (reboot)
- Turn off your auto "weather" and "stock market" refresh
- Go into Start > Tools > "Device Lock" (present in the NRG ROMs) and uncheck "enabled" and "lock if playing music"
- Turn down your screen's brightness and/or put on "automatically adjust backlight" (this is a huge savings as well)
Using the "tBattery" app located in Start > Tools > tBattery, my temperature is around 26' C and the draw is around -150 to -160. At idle (suspend), it is around -4 to -5.
It has also been said that the "Document Indexing" service and the .mp3 indexing service can cause quick battery drain if you have a lot of documents and/or if you have a corrupt .mp3.
You can turn those off as well, but an easier way would be to remove your MicroSD card and see if the battery drains slower. If that is the case, then you have an issue with or on your MicroSD card.

ruinertt said:
The HSPL is just a bootloader, so I can't see that being the issue. Here is what I did:
- Go into \Windows\StartUp and delete "MMTaskManagerhook.lnk" - this is a big savings according to NRG (reboot)
- Turn off your auto "weather" and "stock market" refresh
- Go into Start > Tools > "Device Lock" (present in the NRG ROMs) and uncheck "enabled" and "lock if playing music"
- Turn down your screen's brightness and/or put on "automatically adjust backlight" (this is a huge savings as well)
Using the "tBattery" app located in Start > Tools > tBattery, my temperature is around 26' C and the draw is around -150 to -160. At idle (suspend), it is around -4 to -5.
It has also been said that the "Document Indexing" service and the .mp3 indexing service can cause quick battery drain if you have a lot of documents and/or if you have a corrupt .mp3.
You can turn those off as well, but an easier way would be to remove your MicroSD card and see if the battery drains slower. If that is the case, then you have an issue with or on your MicroSD card.
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Hi, I have his ROM, but I go to file explorer, windows/startup and I dont see that MMTaskManagerhook.lnk
Am I doing it wrong ??
I am using Energy.Leo.21895.Sense2.5_with_MaxManila.Mar.26
Thanks

ruinertt said:
The HSPL is just a bootloader, so I can't see that being the issue. Here is what I did:
- Go into \Windows\StartUp and delete "MMTaskManagerhook.lnk" - this is a big savings according to NRG (reboot)
- Turn off your auto "weather" and "stock market" refresh
- Go into Start > Tools > "Device Lock" (present in the NRG ROMs) and uncheck "enabled" and "lock if playing music"
- Turn down your screen's brightness and/or put on "automatically adjust backlight" (this is a huge savings as well)
Using the "tBattery" app located in Start > Tools > tBattery, my temperature is around 26' C and the draw is around -150 to -160. At idle (suspend), it is around -4 to -5.
It has also been said that the "Document Indexing" service and the .mp3 indexing service can cause quick battery drain if you have a lot of documents and/or if you have a corrupt .mp3.
You can turn those off as well, but an easier way would be to remove your MicroSD card and see if the battery drains slower. If that is the case, then you have an issue with or on your MicroSD card.
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Thanks for your reply. I'll try to remove MicroSD card and see if the problem still exists. Will report here.

richsark said:
Hi, I have his ROM, but I go to file explorer, windows/startup and I dont see that MMTaskManagerhook.lnk
Am I doing it wrong ??
I am using Energy.Leo.21895.Sense2.5_with_MaxManila.Mar.26
Thanks
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I dunno if it is in the MaxManila version, but it is present in the CookieMonster version.
Take a look in TaskManager and see if you have the MMTaskManagerhook.exe running.

Thanks for the tip. I'm giving this a go right now.
FYI, I'm experiencing battery drain on Energy. I've been reading that this is an issue with lots of roms.

ljwnow said:
I've been looking around for a long time but I haven't found a way to overcome the hell-like battery drain.
I tried to delete MMtaskmanager from windows/startup, I tried to flash different customized roms, but it doesn't seem that the problem is getting better.
Now I'm with RomeOS ROM 4.05, HSPL 2.08. Battery drain is horrible.
Someone said it might be a problem of HSPL2, but I don't think there is another version of HSPL for 1024LEO available.
May I have any ideas from someone here?
Thanks in advance.
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Hello,
I am new to this phone, but not new to flashing and other things with HTC phones. One thing that I have always noticed with them is their battery life is horrible, and as the screens get bigger and more data intensive things are going on, the battery life is not going to be great.
How much time are you getting, a few hours, a day, half a day? Depending on usage and such, don't expect anything more than a day.
Also, if you can do the things that are noted, it will help significantly.

I have the stock rom and the battery life is horrible... worse than my n900 which sucks...
I read everywhere online how great the htc hd2 battery is.. 52hrs of up time? with mild use.. I get less than 10 with mild use.. and only 2-3 with heavy use..
I have had many phones this past year and so far this is by far the worse..
I have made my email update less.. turned off all auto updates as well..
I don't have many apps installed and have reset the device once already.
Screen brightness is set to auto..
Any ideas?

dmtaub said:
Hello,
I am new to this phone, but not new to flashing and other things with HTC phones. One thing that I have always noticed with them is their battery life is horrible, and as the screens get bigger and more data intensive things are going on, the battery life is not going to be great.
How much time are you getting, a few hours, a day, half a day? Depending on usage and such, don't expect anything more than a day.
Also, if you can do the things that are noted, it will help significantly.
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Thanks for your reply. I just sold my HD. I remember my HD could go 1.5 days the same usage as my HD2. But HD2 could only make around 6hrs. I'm sure there is something wrong with the battery system oh HD2.

frankd14321 said:
I have the stock rom and the battery life is horrible... worse than my n900 which sucks...
I read everywhere online how great the htc hd2 battery is.. 52hrs of up time? with mild use.. I get less than 10 with mild use.. and only 2-3 with heavy use..
I have had many phones this past year and so far this is by far the worse..
I have made my email update less.. turned off all auto updates as well..
I don't have many apps installed and have reset the device once already.
Screen brightness is set to auto..
Any ideas?
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Try to remove your SD card and test. Plz report here.

Tbattery
Hi, is any one here so nice to give a link to tbattery0.56? tbattery0.6 does not work on HD2, it will give out weird and huge numbers....I'm defeated by the battery, frustrating..

For me, the battery drain is all about the screen. The radios are actually pretty efficient. I've got weather/twitter/stock updating frequently (30/30/5 mins), and two push email services humming along (exchange/hotmail), and the phone barely sucks any battery if its just hanging out on my desk, pulling from data every few minutes. Talk time appears pretty good, too.
When my battery disappears absurdly fast is when I'm using the screen. Text messaging, web browsing, emailing....even light-moderate usage here sucks it down fast.
Other than turning down your brightness, I don't know what you can really do about that one. As screens get bigger, but batteries don't (in fact, my Palm Treo 755 had an 1800 mAh battery, Droid 1400, HD2 1230), battery life is going to suffer.

DeekoVB5 said:
For me, the battery drain is all about the screen. The radios are actually pretty efficient. I've got weather/twitter/stock updating frequently (30/30/5 mins), and two push email services humming along (exchange/hotmail), and the phone barely sucks any battery if its just hanging out on my desk, pulling from data every few minutes. Talk time appears pretty good, too.
When my battery disappears absurdly fast is when I'm using the screen. Text messaging, web browsing, emailing....even light-moderate usage here sucks it down fast.
Other than turning down your brightness, I don't know what you can really do about that one. As screens get bigger, but batteries don't (in fact, my Palm Treo 755 had an 1800 mAh battery, Droid 1400, HD2 1230), battery life is going to suffer.
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this was, in fact, my biggest concern. Big screen means more power. All the reviews I've read indicated I should be getting better than I have been, which is bothersome. I'm tempted to revert to a stock rom and give it a go.

HotShotAzn said:
this was, in fact, my biggest concern. Big screen means more power. All the reviews I've read indicated I should be getting better than I have been, which is bothersome. I'm tempted to revert to a stock rom and give it a go.
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Either turn your brightness down or turn on the auto brightness backlight adjustment.

ljwnow said:
Hi, is any one here so nice to give a link to tbattery0.56? tbattery0.6 does not work on HD2, it will give out weird and huge numbers....I'm defeated by the battery, frustrating..
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Like what? It appears to be working fine for me (at least with the current power draw - which is all that I really care about).

ruinertt said:
Like what? It appears to be working fine for me (at least with the current power draw - which is all that I really care about).
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OK. Here is my numbers from tbattery 0.6:
MS Percentage 52%
PA Percentage 52%
KADC 531%
RARC 528%
V_MBAT(V): 3.752
MAIN Battery ID(KOhm)31.5
pd_M 69
Temp 21.1
Current -222---------------------------See the current, the phone is idle now( not really, compass is running).
ARC 6464
FULL 12296----------------------------Weird, far away from the battery's capacity
1st dis_percentage 632%
1st dis_ARC(mAh) 7782
Cycle 0
Charger input Discharge

ljwnow said:
OK. Here is my numbers from tbattery 0.6:
MS Percentage 52%
PA Percentage 52%
KADC 531%
RARC 528%
V_MBAT(V): 3.752
MAIN Battery ID(KOhm)31.5
pd_M 69
Temp 21.1
Current -222---------------------------See the current, the phone is idle now.
ARC 6464
FULL 12296----------------------------Weird, far away from the battery's capacity
1st dis_percentage 632%
1st dis_ARC(mAh) 7782
Cycle 0
Charger input Discharge
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The current seems about right in all honesty. Even though you *think* that it is idle, there is stuff going on behind the scenes (your screen, for example, takes up A LOT of power).
Go ahead and load up 0.5x or whatever and see if you get anything different.

ruinertt said:
The current seems about right in all honesty. Even though you *think* that it is idle, there is stuff going on behind the scenes (your screen, for example, takes up A LOT of power).
Go ahead and load up 0.5x or whatever and see if you get anything different.
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Yes. You are right. I was just going to update, with microSD inserted and compass program running and tbattery running, the current is around -222. Now I stopped all the running programs in task manager, current seems to be -162.

I still couldnt find tbattery 0.56.

Miri's Elegant ROM TMO_US HD2
Using the ROM in the image below. Installed it with 64% at around 1pm today 03/29 and so far am still at 65% and thats with at least 30mins phone call, some web browsing and quiet a few text messages. tried the other ROMs for tmo_us and this MIRI ELEGANt is working out great for me. downloaded it at htcpedia.com

[Q] Basic phone (long battery life)

Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?

dalapigi said:
Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
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Hello,
That is actually quite interesting, but the first time I have heard of such a query in the 9 months this phone has been released.
Just out of interest, have you tried running the phone with just the standard WM interface to see how long the battery lasts?

Alternative solutions:
1 - You could always try wind-up, or solar charger.
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.

fred_up said:
Alternative solutions:
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
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could u really do that? </3

@fred_up
Those are nice ideas ! (Infact I've lost my cheap phone recently)
Morpheus, what you mean is WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...

dalapigi said:
WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
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you can turn Sense off in Settings/More/Today,
and according to BattClock power consumption on my Leo (YMMV) is:
Sense: 100-300 mA
Windows Default: 42 mA

Turning off sense would give you a noticable amount of battery life......
The sense interface is a hungry hungry beast........
The linux idea is nice but the problem is that it would be running on top of windows and therefore not save any battery.........
Luckily I still have my trusty (4 days without a charge) N95........
The old girl still comes in handy...

D4rkSoRRoW said:
could u really do that? </3
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Whenever I break my good phone I just use a T-mobile PAYG phone until I can order a new phone. Or if I'm going camping or biking or something.

nice i will try to disable sense ! thanks for this tip
about linux, i believe i read that wm is completzly shut down when launching android (it only serves as a trigger ?)

Running SPB Mobile Shell, I lose 1% of battery life every 3 hours on standy. That's with data and wifi turned off and just the phone running. That would give me about 300 hours of standby time. In theory that should last you a week with a few short calls.
Problem with Android/Ubuntu on this phone right now is you have to run it off the sd card, which draws a lot more power. Whenever the screen is on it draws a lot of power anyway. The best I've done so far is 6% drain over 8 hours with just the phone running in standby.
The most obvious/best solution for you is to just bring an old dumb phone instead or as backup. Then you can just slip the sim card out and use that to make/receive calls.

[HOW TO] Increase Battery life of HTC Hero (Official 2.1 Update, sense and rooted)

I found some simple steps do the trick in increasing battery life of my HTC Hero (with Official 2.1 Update, Sense and rooted). Would like to share the same with you all. Shared the same with some other Sense users and awaiting for their feedback).
1. Turn off always on mobile data
2. Turn off Auto-sync(Yes, I know what you are thinking right now. But, I open twitter, facebook whenever I need them. I Don't keep them open and syncing all the time and this is same for Gmail app too)
3. Remove any weather widget from home screens (or atleast reduce the frequency of update)
4. Install a software called Battery booster(free) n do the following (don't expect it do wonders, it just allows you to do couple of settings)
@ reduce display brightness to a satisfactory level (I have kept it to 9-10%, doesnt make any difference if you indoor, and Hero's display is pathetic in outdoors anyway)
@ reduce automatic lock time (This one is irritating, Should say !) (optional, helps when you have a habit of keeping the phone unlocked and not using it)
@ have its widget on the home screen (to do some quick settings)
5. Install start up manager from market n remove all user apps from start up, doing this will avoid them getting started automatically (Yes, I didnt require any of the apps to be loaded at the startup, in fact I have disabled couple of system and HTC prop apps or services)
6. Reboot the phone n witness the magic (I have got more than a days battery after 3 hrs of music, an hour of browsing, fb twitter etc..)
7. (UPDATE) Have task killer to close all running apps before you go to sleep !
I see nothing that can harm/brick yo phone, but I am not responsible If it does..! I am just trying to help you all.
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Hi,
I have an off-topic question but I wanna know the name of your widget showing your data of the day and your data of the week !
Thanks for your tutorial and for your future answer !

PHONE Usage app. ( only paid version let's you add widgets )
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Thanks i'm gonna check it

or buy a charger for home, another for office, nother for car, another for mom´s home... so etc... i have 2 chargers

mcyorian said:
or buy a charger for home, another for office, nother for car, another for mom´s home... so etc... i have 2 chargers
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Like that.. But what if you are in a jungle ?

harsha_aithal said:
Like that.. But what if you are in a jungle ?
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If your in a jungle chances are you wont get coverage so can have it set to aeroplane mode
Good guide though!
Also worth saying that 'Data on Demand' is a great app. turns off 3g/2g/h connection while the screen is off. and is a lot less cpu intensive than juice defender and the like.
Also GreenPower is the same but it also manages wifi.
Annnnddd its pointless turning the GPS off in the settings. when it is on it will only use power if an app asks for your location (and then you will see that the gps is activated in the notification bar).
You get the exact same battery life leaving the phones gps set on but never open a gps requiring app as if you leave gps off and never use a gps requiring app.
At least it has for me on every rom Ive tried, and on my brothers official 2.1 hero.

My battery advice to those who need battery help

I keep reading on here about how either someones battery life is either awesome or great or this or that. It seems that many folks on here with great battery life are old pros at milking their phones for the best battery life possible, while others may not know the best methods for getting the optimal battery life they want.
So here are some tips for getting the battery life you want:
1) Calibrate your battery by letting if completely discharge and then charge it using the wall charger it came with. Do this at least three times so the phone has a chance to get real statistics.
Update: It is recommended that you do not do this very often as some say it could damage the battery in the long term. You should do this early on in the life of the phone as the damage if any would be minimal. This needs to be done regardless. It is the only way for the phone to get an accurate full/zero reading.
Update 2: I have found that after doing a factory reset, you need to do this step again. After a factory reset on 4.1.83 (most recent update), my battery life dropped considerably. After letting it discharge fully and then charging it with the phone off again, I was back to normal battery use.
2) Set wifi to sleep when the phone is not in use. Unless you are streaming data such as pandora or other data intensive programs with the screen off, you do not need it on (I will talk about background data in a moment for those who are going to mention that the phone still does data while it is sleeping). You can change the setting by going to Settings > Wireless networks > wifi settings > menu button > advanced > wifi sleep policy
ofek said:
You should write that after settings it you need to click on menu button->save.
If you will not do this step, every reboot it will restored to "Never" option.
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G
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3) Disable motoblur's account settings sync over cell data. This setting causes all of your account information to sync over your data connection when wifi is not available. This should be disabled as it will constantly sync and drain your battery even when the screen is off. Really do you need you facebook contacts that are synced to your contacts to be updated every five minutes? Settings > Data manager > Data Delivery > social apps > sync over wifi.
Update: Only disable the Social Apps that sync over background, do not disable the Background data. Disabling background data will cause certain things to not work properly, like for instance the gmail app.
Update 2: If you are using the Twitter/facebook/whatever apps (real apps) you should go ahead and remove the associated accounts from Motoblur. You do not need them to sync twice as motoblur will sync them with it's account and then the apps will sync. The downside to this though is that any contact pictures you have synced from those accounts will no longer show up in contacts forcing you to manually add pictures to your contacts.
4) remove widgets. Widgets drain batteries when they are active. Most of them are useless and really serve no purpose other than to try and make you feel important about yourself. I mean really, how useful is a facebook widget that only shows one or two peoples updates? Trash the ones you can live without. If you are using a launcher other than motoblur, go and load motoblur and make certain there are none running on that launcher as those are still active even if you use another launcher.
5) live wallpapers suck battery like crazy. While they are nice eye candy to view, they are not worth the drain they cause. Even when you are in a app, just like the widgets, they are draining your battery.
Update: Some live wallpapers are better on battery drain than others, but they still drain battery either way. I will not use a live wallpaper as it serves no purpose other than eye candy, and eye candy on a phone I can live without.
6) Task killers. Yeah not going to touch this one as everyone who reads these forums should know better by now.
7) check individual programs as you install them and make certain they do not autoupdate content. Pulse news reader is a good example of a program that pulls data in the background even when you haven't used it in weeks. Really is it going to kill you to hit refresh when you load it?
Update: If you are using the AT&T program "Mark the Spot", it constantly is checking device performance and is constantly checking your location for it to "work". Be sure to watch this app as it drains a lot of battery through out the day.
8) turn off bluetooth, gps, and wifi when you are not actively using them. Wifi when on is always scanning the area for networks, bluetooth is always actively broadcasting (on some phones) and who needs gps when you aren't on the move.
Update: If you are experiencing a switch from H+ to Edge frequently such as in your home where you have wifi running and do not have a AT&T cell device, then turn off your data connection. Your phone is constantly trying to connect to the H+ network when it isn't already connected and draining power. If you are on WiFi, then your data connection is not needed.
I have heard Tasker is great for setting up an automatic script on your phone to do it for you so you don't have to think about it, but remember that all extra programs including tasker eat away at your battery and without real world testing, I can not promise you will see an improvement or a loss in battery.
You can also use APNDroid to do it manually if you would rather have full controll of your data connection.
9) Quit watching porn on your phone. Use your computer for that. Ok maybe I am the only one who does this but I doubt it. Alot if the free poem sites use flash videos and the more you use flash the faster your battery drains.
Update: Yes I know this is hard (no pun intended) for some of you to do, but the idea is sound. Using flash videos (the bulk (again no pun intended) of porn videos use flash).
These are not the only ways to have a great battery and this information may not be useful to you, but I can go nearly 20 hours of moderate to heavy phone use and still have anywhere from 40 to 60 percent battery left at the end of the day.
If anyone has any other advice that they feel should be listed here, please let me know and I will gladly add it to the mix.
Good luck folks.
Addition (5/12/11)
10) For those of you with the .83 update, please keep in mind that the update now forces you onto the EDGE (2G) Network if it can receive a better signal/stable connection. If you notice you are on EDGE more often than the H+ network, then disable your data connection. What is happening is that even though you have a solid connection to the EDGE network, your phone is constantly seeking the H+/3G networks thus using much more battery life than before. If you are at home or somewhere where your phone can connect to a wifi network, consider turning off the Data network. You should also disable your data connection whenever you are in a No Signal area. Again the same problem happens when you have no signal.
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From Deggy
I would like to add to the OP's list of things to do to improve battery life:
Turn off date when not in use for a long period of time like work or school. Settings -> Date manager -> Date delivery -> uncheck Backround data and Data enabled. Don't worry, you'll still get your texts and phone calls.
The Market is a big drainer. Market -> hit menu -> settings -> change notify me -> do not notify me.
Those two are the big ones to worry about IMO.
The other tips are either cliche stuff or other people said already. Wifi off, GPS off, brightness down to 0-20%, ect. Auto sync is killer.
I unplug my phone at 9AM and come home from work at 9PM and my phone says 75% with moderate use (Circle battery widget uses 1% increments). 3-4 phone calls. A LOT of texting (wifey likes text me). Internet during 30 minute lunch. Play Words with Friends a good amount.
I don't use live wallpaper but I do use a darker colored static one. Only got 4-5 widgets on my screen. 3 home screens. Using Launcher Pro.
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pookeyster said:
In some of the other battery threads, ppl have been commenting on how they've had success in extending the battery life after a hard factory reset. What that basically does is it deletes and regenerates the batterystats.bin file in /data/system and if the battery was essentially mis-calibrated prior to the reset, the reset fixes it thus giving better measurements. ie. perhaps after 10hrs of usage the phone might say u have 5% left, but in reality you could have 40% left.. the regeneratin of batterystats.bin would recalculate that correctly
if you want the benefits of having that reset process but rather not go through having to restore all ur apps/back them up.. u could always manually go and delete the batterystats.bin file (only if you're rooted). i would recommend deleting the file after fully charging the phone overnight then unplug it so that it generates the file again. if you'd prefer an app to do this for you automatically you could always go to the marketplace and get 'battery calibration' app for free and it does the same thing
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cybal said:
My want to include details about corp email sync. Using "push data" can really chew up the battery and is probably not better then retrieving email every 15 or 30 mins for most people. There may also be a problem with setting a long history time such as 1 month.
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The following was posted on the MotoAtrix forums on Motorola's website. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/51776
I've seen a lot of posts in a lot of threads about how to save battery life on the Atrix. So, I figured I'd start a consolidated thread on the matter. These are the tips 'n tricks I've used, and I can get 2 days of battery life on the Atrix now.
1. When I first got the Atrix, before turning it on, I charged it for 4 hours. After turning it on, I let it run until it died, then re-charged for 8 hours. I did that for a full week. They say that this isn't needed with the new-fangled batteries, but I have always done this, and have always gotten great results.
2. Live wallpapers are not your friend, especially in two circumstances: 1. you use your phone a lot, and 2. you use the stock unlock screen where everytime the phone wakes the live wallpaper is playing. Granted, they don't eat up much battery, but if you're looking to get every ounce/percentage out of your phone, it's a luxury you can leave at home.
3. Did you install a new launcher? If so, did you clear out BLUR? I had my BLUR interface up and running with widgets and shortcuts, etc, etc. When I switched to ADW I noticed an increase in battery drain. I re-loaded BLUR and deleted all apps, widgets, etc so BLUR is blank. I now have great battery life with ADW running.
4. Widgets - ugh. They're pretty, they're big, they're animated, and they eat battery like bees eat pollen. Be mindful of them, and be willing to accept the consequences of the "cool factor".
5. Screen timeout. Yes, it's annoying to unlock your phone every 5 minutes, but you do save battery life with a 1-minute or less timeout option set.
6. Close your apps! Many apps, games especially, are fantastic at running in the background on Android, but they're sucking battery. They all restore to your previous position quite well, so if you're done for a few hours, exit it instead of just going back to your launcher screen.
7. "back" vs. "home" - the back button (the reverse arrow) does a much better job of closing down programs than the home button which just brings up your home screen, leaving whatever you were doing to hungrily consume battery like zombies on a corpse.
8. "manage apps" is your friend - go to your app tray, hit the menu button, and select "manage apps" - you can see all the running apps and kill them selectively. Some, like Facebook, Skype, and others, will stay there as long as the phone is on once you use it, unless you kill it. Be forwarned though, you'll stop getting notifications if you do this - another informed tradeoff. I do this once every few days, or if the Atrix seems sluggish.
9. Screen brightness - the "auto" setting doesn't work all that well, but I highly recommend leaving it there, and/or using a screen brightness toggle widget on your home screen to manage this carefully. Screen brightness on maximum will yield the best viewing experience but it does drain battery the fastest of all.
10. Choose your BLUR accounts wisely - like widgets, if you have LinkedIn and Facebook connected through BLUR, it will run ALL THE TIME. Using the native apps from the market will definitely decrease your overall drain and give you better control over when and how your battery is consumed by those services.
11. Auto-kill or be killed - A good rule of thumb for me is to only auto-end a task if you know exactly what it is, and it didn't come with the phone. Chances are if you don't recognize it, even if it looks like something you don't need running, leave it be. If it's something you installed from the Market, and you want it to auto-end, have a field day. If you put something on the auto-end list that the Atrix needs, it will just keep re-starting it. This draws processor time and battery and isn't worth it.
12. (credit: Itsallgood) Check your profile - "settings -> battery" and look at the bottom half of the screen. The Atrix supports multiple battery saving profiles that allows you to control "night time" and whether to actively sync data all the time, never, or only during certain hours. Push mail and active data sync consumes battery at a steady pace. In addition, 3rd party apps (like Settings Profiles) can be downloaded to further tweak and customize everything from vibrate mode, screen, data sync, and more. The more customized your experience to fit your needs only when you need specific services, the better your battery life will be.
Anyway - that's some to get started, feel free to add more!
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wow nice ill try it i have my atrix for a couple of days and i have been like dissapointed i dont wanna do a factory reset or anything like it ill try ur guide and let u kno

Personally, I don't see the point of disabling everything that makes an Android fun and unique.... but, ill see how the battery is stock vs this once it arrives.
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Mr.Kakarot said:
Personally, I don't see the point of disabling everything that makes an Android fun and unique.... but, ill see how the battery is stock vs this once it arrives.
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You don't have to disable everything, but the things above such as the background data syncs serve no purpose other than to drain a battery. The sync will complete during the next wifi connection and by time you access your contacts it will be done. Besides it'd not like all your contacts change every 30 minutes.
The idea is not so much to limit the experience of android, but to remove the unused features that do nothing for.you. I mean who really needs a youtube widget when the shortcut gets you to youtube just as easily and doesn't drain your battery.
It's the same idea as startup programs on your computer. They serve no purpose other than to slow your system down. Sure quicktime or itunes might load a few seconds faster, but how often do you really load those programs.
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#9 = cant do
u know how they monitor work computer ?

Great Post
The only propblem now following your advice is that my gmail email does not upgrade (sync) on its own

keithr1475 said:
The only propblem now following your advice is that my gmail email does not upgrade (sync) on its own
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Are you using the gmail app or the default app? Mine works just fine.
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I'm using the Gmail APP

the gmail app doesnt sync on its own because you turn off auto sync
i recommend you use the power control widget and adjust those accordingly

Definitely a good list of things, but felt like commenting on the live wallpapers thing. From what I've experienced, it seems like it depends a lot on the wallpaper used. I initially thought the live wallpaper was one of the main reasons for the short battery life when I first got the phone so I switched to a normal wallpaper. I had that for about a week and generally saw a lot of improvements in battery life as a result of better management and the calibration cycles. After that week, I came across a live wallpaper I liked and decided to enjoy that feature for a bit more. If anything, it seemed like my battery life got a bit better. I've tested it a little, and there's no doubt that some of my live wallpapers drain battery more than others. I've tried switching between a standard wallpaper and my live wallpaper (galaxy live) and I really don't see much of a difference, if any, between the 2.
Question: Does freezing the blur home screen (via titanium backup) disable the widgets on it? I'm assuming it does, since it essentially makes that home screen non-existent as far as the phone is concerned.

Darrell, There are some really good suggestions. They also apply to other android phones too probably. I had a myTouch4G for a week until I decided that T-Mob just wasn't as good a value to me as AT&T. So I went back. I'll get an Atrix soon, or maybe some Tegra that comes out in a month or 2.

How do you switch to Motoblur from Launcher Pro and back again? Will I lose the customization that I've done?
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DarrellRaines said:
1) Calibrate your battery by letting if completely discharge and then charge it using the wall charger it came with. Do this at least three times so the phone has a chance to get real statistics.
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I read somewhere in this forum that you shouldnt let the battery run all the way down in the initial calibration week. Anybody know about this?

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I read somewhere in this forum that you shouldnt let the battery run all the way down in the initial calibration week. Anybody know about this?
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Modern lithium batteries actually die faster if you fully drain them then recharge to full. I'm not saying you can't do it every so often for calibration purposes but it isn't recommended as a every day thing.
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We aren't running them down for the batteries health, but more so that the phone will understand what full and what dead actually is.
Do not do this often as there is no point. As for damaging the battery, one website says it is bad while others say it is good. Do so at your own risk. I do not have a degree in science, so I can not say either way, however the steps above done once the phone is calibrated will help.
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After 12 hours of moderate to heavy use today, I still have 50% battery remaining.
For the guy who's email stopped working, do not turn off all background data. That will stop the push settings I believe.
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wait....quit looking at porn on my phone?!??!!?
impossible!
no matter, im not having battery life issues.

Darrel this works i just did the wallpaper step and wow my battery stood up all day from 7am now is at%15 10pm
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gambit_pr said:
Darrel this works i just did the wallpaper step and wow my battery stood up all day from 7am now is at%15 10pm
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Glad I could help.
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