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My first WM device - NIKE. What now?

Hi guys! This is my first post so i will introduce myself. I am Pawel from Poland Enough for now.
I just bouhgt NIKE for my wife. This is her (and mine) first WM touch device. It has Orange version of WM 6.0. Now few questions...
Is there 6.1 WM with Polish? I could not find any. Or is it possible to upload some english 6.1 ROM and then upload only language pack (i am doing this now with my motorola maxx and previously with siemens SX1 - symbian device)?
Also can you sugest me most stable and without any extra apps ROM (that will work really fast)? My wife wont use this phone for anything beside making calls, sms/mms, listening to music and maybe for movies from time to time (during longer travels via train or bus). So no need for some uber software. Of course office mobile must be there too - she needs to know when train goes! And as you know - for student possibility to use docs, ppt or excel at any given time is priceless
Cheers!

I recommend slowing down and just using the phone as is for the time being - you won't know what you need out of a ROM until you know what's wrong with the current one, if indeed, anything is wrong with it for you.
Having said that, if it's only going to be used for sending texts and making calls, I would not bother messing with the ROM at all. As good as most of the chefs are, I always find there is something wrong with every single one I've tried on various devices. Sometimes, it's only a minor thing they forgot, sometimes, it's a big thing they forgot.
Either way, your wife will probably get tired of you constantly messing with her phone - just like mine does ;-)
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Maybe you are right So far we have noticed lack of proper alarm clock app... Free AlarmClock 0.0.4 and voila Also Solitaire is in action now... After few days of really extensive use of Dual i can say one thing - all infos about how often it crashes, hangs, drops calls etc is bu****it. We didnt noticed one single bad thing in funcionality of Nike. And by extensive use i mean morning charge and evening - 10% juice left (tops)
And how long battery lasts when you use it like normall phone (dont play with it for hours )? Overnight it dropped like 6 or 7%... So it should stay at least 4-5 days i believe (during daytime there are incoming/outgoing calls so more juice is drained)? Of course by calls i mean few minutes/day. Not few hours daily.

I think my Nike lasts about 2 days if I'm just texting and the odd calls throughout the days.

Battery improvment time on HTC HD2

People with the Htc Hd2 have probably noticed that the battery life is horrific.
As i only really need one day or use out of the phone i found a way that gave me close to 50 hourse with normal usage wich i think is very impressive for a 4,3" screen and a 1gzh Qual snapD proscessor.
what to do:
- Go to settings and home and deactivate HTC sense and ativate Windows Standars.
- Also turn the background lighting to constanly 30% and not on auto (you can go as low as you find appealing, but 30% was perfect for me)
this does mean you have to give up the Htc sense which might not be appealing for some people, but for me it was just fine.
(PS) i had the well known SMS problems aswell, but since i deactivated the HTC sense all my messages have been sendt on time and i have recived all my phone calls, i have tested this for a week now so its all confirmed!
you could get more then 50 hours because my "normal use" contains a lot of phone calling wich drains a lot of battery and even after 50 hours i still had 30% left on the battery. each time!

Cptruck said:
People with the Htc Hd2 have probably noticed that the battery life is horrific.
As i only really need one day or use out of the phone i found a way that gave me close to 50 hourse with normal usage wich i think is very impressive for a 4,3" screen and a 1gzh Qual snapD proscessor.
what to do:
- Go to settings and home and deactivate HTC sense and ativate Windows Standars.
- Also turn the background lighting to constanly 30% and not on auto (you can go as low as you find appealing, but 30% was perfect for me)
this does mean you have to give up the Htc sense which might not be appealing for some people, but for me it was just fine.
(PS) i had the well known SMS problems aswell, but since i deactivated the HTC sense all my messages have been sendt on time and i have recived all my phone calls, i have tested this for a week now so its all confirmed!
you could get more then 50 hours because my "normal use" contains a lot of phone calling wich drains a lot of battery and even after 50 hours i still had 30% left on the battery. each time!
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but I think the HTC sense is very important, it's a main fuction of HD2, I like it.
I wish the factories can develop a more capacity battery

Yes disable Sense and install SBP mobile shell. Faster and lower ram usage =)

Cptruck said:
People with the Htc Hd2 have probably noticed that the battery life is horrific.
As i only really need one day or use out of the phone i found a way that gave me close to 50 hourse with normal usage wich i think is very impressive for a 4,3" screen and a 1gzh Qual snapD proscessor.
what to do:
- Go to settings and home and deactivate HTC sense and ativate Windows Standars.
- Also turn the background lighting to constanly 30% and not on auto (you can go as low as you find appealing, but 30% was perfect for me)
this does mean you have to give up the Htc sense which might not be appealing for some people, but for me it was just fine.
(PS) i had the well known SMS problems aswell, but since i deactivated the HTC sense all my messages have been sendt on time and i have recived all my phone calls, i have tested this for a week now so its all confirmed!
you could get more then 50 hours because my "normal use" contains a lot of phone calling wich drains a lot of battery and even after 50 hours i still had 30% left on the battery. each time!
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With htc sense disabled I cant go to settings. When I click STart button/settings nothing happens

mrfredde said:
Yes disable Sense and install SBP mobile shell. Faster and lower ram usage =)
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HTC Sense checks for location, shows weather animations, clock animations. That all uses battery.
SPB is more efficient and yet more customizable.

danielherrero said:
With htc sense disabled I cant go to settings. When I click STart button/settings nothing happens
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Same thing happens here sms won't open either. But for me its just after i installed SBP mobile shell.. Weird ! :O

mrfredde said:
Same thing happens here sms won't open either. But for me its just after i installed SBP mobile shell.. Weird ! :O
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The settings shortcut will not work in the start menu when Mobileshell is installed, just go through mobileshell's menus to get to the settings. Have you installed the disable HTC messaging cab for when you have sense disabled? This will allow you to use/go to messaging (if you disable HTC messaging you will have to install the Arcsoft MMS client in order to send/receive MMS)

I also disabled senses, because my SMS messages were not arriving?! Very strange..
But with senses off everything goes well.. I hope there will be a fix for sense soon, because it truly is a great piece of software!
(i miss the MP3 player, photo slider, facebook updates on my contact and the direct link to opera )

Disabling sense?
What are the exact steps to disable HTC sense? I goto the today settings but I cannot see any option to disable sense, all I see is two tabs one for changing the background when the device is locked and the other for adding/removing tabs! Please help!!!
Btw if I install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 then is Sense automatically disabled? I suppose it will be since SPB replaces it but with Windows one can never be sure!

iqsoft said:
What are the exact steps to disable HTC sense? I goto the today settings but I cannot see any option to disable sense, all I see is two tabs one for changing the background when the device is locked and the other for adding/removing tabs! Please help!!!
Btw if I install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 then is Sense automatically disabled? I suppose it will be since SPB replaces it but with Windows one can never be sure!
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I haven't done it but I can see how it could be done.
When you get to the Today screen you mentioned, there are two tabs at the bottom left. The first says Appearance and the second says Items. Go to Items which is where you'll see all the today settings listed. It also says that checked items appear on the Today screen. The only one checked in that list is HTC Sense. Presumably, that's where you untick it.
*If anyone knows this to be wrong, please correct me. I wouldn't want to be giving out incorrect information.*

Quick one to all who have disabled sense - is HTC Keyboard still working after?
I am also considering turning of sense.
What should I setup to have windows phone 6.5 home screen? (Zune like)
Thx

Just as a matter of interest, why don't you all just try it and see if this works or that works?
If it's not to your liking then re enable sense!

I am dissatisfied with the hd2 battery, don't know what to do, mine only lasts for 1.5 day for normal usage. I think htc should work more on developing the battery technology, something like SAMSUNG phones.
About the tips and ways to have more battery life, I don't know what is the point here:you deactivate all features you have in a bloody expensive phone, and make it like a Nokia 1100 to have more battery? u can simply buy a Nokia 1100 and save ur money while you enjoy 4-5 days battery life!
What I am saying is that if we have to deactivate htc sense, weather animation, location services and make the screen less bright to use the phone for 3 days, then why should I buy a phone which has these capabilities?!
I want a long time battery, while I wanna enjoy my device. I am waiting for a better battery to be offered from htc, something like 9-cell battery for laptops.

1.5 days is fantastic for a smartphone which provides the functionalities of a laptop
id be happy if mine would last the day instead of charging it when i get home at 5pm

nazi_967 said:
I am dissatisfied with the hd2 battery, don't know what to do, mine only lasts for 1.5 day for normal usage. I think htc should work more on developing the battery technology, something like SAMSUNG phones.
About the tips and ways to have more battery life, I don't know what is the point here:you deactivate all features you have in a bloody expensive phone, and make it like a Nokia 1100 to have more battery? u can simply buy a Nokia 1100 and save ur money while you enjoy 4-5 days battery life!
What I am saying is that if we have to deactivate htc sense, weather animation, location services and make the screen less bright to use the phone for 3 days, then why should I buy a phone which has these capabilities?!
I want a long time battery, while I wanna enjoy my device. I am waiting for a better battery to be offered from htc, something like 9-cell battery for laptops.
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Very nicely said with Nokia 1100 example... nothing to add here buddy!!!

I disabled data connection overnight (BsB Tweaks, then shut off data connection) and I only lost 5% battery for 6-7 hours. Turned it on in the morning and barely used the phone and I've lost over 50% in about 11 hours. Only used about 10 minutes of talk time, no web checking. I have outlook and hotmail configured. MS Push was disabled. I have the Docs Indexer disabled installed.
To my sudo-quick-test it seems 3g is killing the phone.

to save battery life i off all the auto updates. i update 'em manually, with this and my ROM/Radio i can last 2 days average and 3 days max

I also thought battery life was a disaster then read in some post that bluetooth was draining batt, tried to turn it of and voila. before it was beetween 0-10% when i was home by 5 and now it is 35-50%.
I don´t like that i "can´t" use the things that is availabale on phone because that´s why i bought it. I had it for about four months now and it feels like nothings ever gonna happen that´s solves the problems, this, the sms prob and that it freezes is my things that can driving me insain, but somehow i just love it anyway

i thing people have to understand that battery technology has not really been developed or improved recently.. so you're using a high tech device with a old/low tech battery, so unless they make the battery big/fat, ur probably only gonna get a day or so of battery life. good example is hd2's standard n extended battery. the extended battery is somethin like 2000+ mAh, but its fat. spoiling the sleek look of the hd2. and bout samsung, its probably cause their screens are bit smaller n the batteries are around 1500mAh compared to hd2's 1230mAh? One thing i dont understand though is why the hd2's standard battery couldnt be buffed up just a tiny bit to at least 1500mAh..

When I flashed CleanEx it improved my battery time. Touch X-Treme did the same thing. Also you should deactivate all auto-update stuff.
Then it could be that your HTC HD2 lasts a day

battery frustration

hallo everyone
usually I have during all day thephone switched off because if I press the red button to switch off the screen after a while I noticed that the battery continue to use resources
so I completely switch off my phone during the day and every time I want to use I have to wait a lot of time.On this site there are a lot of information but I would like just to know
if exist a way to use my phone all day with the internet connection. the onlytrick I use is to lower the light, but during the day is quite frustrating to change the setting every time.On the forum there is now a thread to boost the performance but I do not know if there will b be some changes on the registry,s key that could make my system unstable
I would like to know if there is a way to take my phone open twelve hours for day without changing the rom that is quite complex for me, any way in the case I will decide to change a rom what is the most save battery solution. sorry if my question is really newbe but I can not easily extrapolate these info with the search engine

Switching off your phone during the day is really very extreme and to me ridiculous.While idling on standby your phone should not go through much power at all - overnight (8 hours), most phones go through 3% - 5% so switching it off during the day really won't make a difference. If your phone is doing more than this then there is another problem that you have (try taking the micro sd card out to see if that is the cause). Using the internet with the screen on and wifi on constantly, I would guess would give you about 5 - 6 hours of use although I haven't tried it.
Changing ROM isn't necessary.

soft -resets!!!!!!
try taking your phone out and 'feel' the battary temperature. (I do it by putting phone on my face)... if you feel something strange is going on or the phone is just warmer than usual do a soft reset... that is what I usually do and it helps me preventing the drainage issue a lot. hope it works on you.

ok thank
but in the case I changed the rom it is true that I could use the phone also tree four days mk
and another curiosity to facilitate the cook rom procedure could I use a backup put
online by an user using a backup software MK
CHEERS Z

[Q] Android on HTC Blackstone?

Hello there,
Yes, I'm well aware of the stickied thread that has most of the answers I was looking for, but there are still a few questions in mind:
1) Is it slow on your Blackstone or does it work just as fine as Windows Mobile in terms of speed (opening, closing applications, making a phone call, etc.)
2) I Googled about Android on WinMo HTC phones before I came here and I came across a few posts that said sound isn't that great and text messaging doesn't work most of the time. Is that true?
3) If you can do me the biggest favor and list the MAJOR issues (downsides) of running Android on the HTC phones that came with WinMo?
I am buying an HTC HD in a couple of days and I was really eager to try out the Android OS. I have had bad experiences with Windows Mobile before but I am pretty sure with XDA Developers on my side, everything will be as easy as water.
Thank you very much for taking the time to read this, guys.
PS: Is the HTC Magic worth it? Is it or the HD better?

All
1) It works quite fast - for example i use to draw with skecher and listen some music^^
at same time, applications starts pretty well (but some times crash just after start, but not often!)
2) messeging works fine (as sms gmail gtalk), no questions to browser speed as well
3) camera not working
PS i'v bought HD few weeks ago only because Android works on it

Thank you very much for your quick and thorough reply, Mr. htcrum.
I guess the camera isn't much of an issue as I'm not the type of people who keep taking pictures. That's in addition to the fact that I have a digital camera that I can just use.
By the way, is switching between Android and Windows Mobile fast or does it take a long time? How long does it take to be precise?
Oh and is battery life when on Android way worse than on Windows Mobile or do you not notice a difference?

switching from android to windows takes 1-2 minutes (actualy i never check this)
booting android is mostly similar as windows
about battery - it discharges in about 10-12 hours with slight usage, and I really don't know how it is in windows - i use it for android booting only
and i forgot to say about another issue - usb mass storage might not work

htcrum said:
...about battery - it discharges in about 10-12 hours with slight usage, and I really don't know how it is in windows - i use it for android booting only
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What do you really mean about " about 10-12 hours with slight usage"? I am just interested because I would really like to test some android rom's but if the battery life is so bad I can wait little longer and stick on WinMo.
Just for comparison my average battery live with WinMo 6.1 without touchflo is from 3 to 5 days depending on how much I use GPS and surf around internet.

why is dead battery causing so much issues on custom roms?

original roms dont seem to suffer from these issues.
every custom rom i tried(nand and SD) had same issues after battery went dead.
isnt there a safety shutdown feature that can be added to prevent this?

Nand roms shouldn't be so bad, I have run my battery dead a bunch of times on my phone with UD 3.0.0 RC1, and never has it caused a problem. But running the battery dead on an SD build is where you can get big problems, because the entire system loads from the SD card, and by letting the battery run dead, Android doesn't get a chance to unload properly, as the card is still being written to when shutdown takes place, alot of the time corrupting the sd card or the Android directory or the data.img
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The issue isnt the ROMs, its a MAGLDR bug. Phone cant charge under magldr.
Workaround: Boot into MAGLDR and then into CWM. Charges under CWM.
OR
Change from MAGLDR to CLK
Andy

Boradan said:
The issue isnt the ROMs, its a MAGLDR bug. Phone cant charge under magldr.
Workaround: Boot into MAGLDR and then into CWM. Charges under CWM.
OR
Change from MAGLDR to CLK
Andy
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Wasn't the question...
Anyway, some apps store data on the sd card, when it shuts down suddenly due to empty battery, this data can get corrupted (That's why most roms don't use DATA2Ext but App2SD+, to prevent this). That's why most (if not, all) NAND Roms don't have this issue (at least, It never occurred to me) but SD roms do, as huggs explained.

isnt it possible to make an app that shuts off the phone i nstead of letting it die?

I use an ext4 with DarkTremor's A2SD script and never had corruption from running out of battery. I could just be lucky, idk.
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man this is BS it has to be plugged inconstantly in order to keep it alive its like my sony laptop with a 2.4 ghz pentium processor and bigass screen.
the battery only lasted 3 hours.
i go to work and leave the phone untouched for the whole day the battery goes to half thats the ONLY way i can make it last till the end of work day.
if i even think about txting or writing an email or god forbid browse internet that **** drops to almost dead batery instantly.
and sometimes i dont have a charger so the phone dies because it cant shut down on its own.
and to add to that theres a GREAT!!!!! feature that conveniently turns the screen on and turns off all the power saving features such as dim screen.
so it turns the phone on starts buzzing and screen on full brightness, to let me know that my battery is dying WTF really???

fuzzysig said:
man this is BS it has to be plugged inconstantly in order to keep it alive its like my sony laptop with a 2.4 ghz pentium processor and bigass screen.
the battery only lasted 3 hours.
i go to work and leave the phone untouched for the whole day the battery goes to half thats the ONLY way i can make it last till the end of work day.
if i even think about txting or writing an email or god forbid browse internet that **** drops to almost dead batery instantly.
and sometimes i dont have a charger so the phone dies because it cant shut down on its own.
and to add to that theres a GREAT!!!!! feature that conveniently turns the screen on and turns off all the power saving features such as dim screen.
so it turns the phone on starts buzzing and screen on full brightness, to let me know that my battery is dying WTF really???
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We at XDA made Android available for an aging phone of yours at *NO COST* involved, If you have a problem live with it until we learn how to fix it. And if this seems too unbearable, just STFU and stay with HTC stock WM6.5 rom.

if you make a ruler you make it exact.
even if you give it away for free.
you dont make a ruler that measures 1 inch short...because people depend on it.
i just hate all these BS claims about the system beeing stable when its not even close.
i installed android because i thought it was ok for everyday use by someone that doesnt sit here on this board for hours trying to keep up to speed with all the latest updates.
im very happy that this android development extended the life of a factory crippled phone but dont tell me that im the only one having this issue.
u have no idea how many times this thing freezes up right when i need it. when im in the car driving and need to use google maps but cant because this **** is bugging out.
or now for example it doesnt even load up sense it gives me the com.htc.bgp force close.
im very fn tired of this loading and unloading of cooked roms and actually looking for a phone that came with android.
like i said if you make something, EVEN IF ITS FREE, you are still responsible for making it work because people depend on it. and i dont have 2-3 hours a day to spend reading through this board trying to make my phone work again.
you can hate me or disagree i dont give a faq this is my opinion.

fuzzysig said:
if you make a ruler you make it exact.
even if you give it away for free.
you dont make a ruler that measures 1 inch short...because people depend on it.
i just hate all these BS claims about the system beeing stable when its not even close.
i installed android because i thought it was ok for everyday use by someone that doesnt sit here on this board for hours trying to keep up to speed with all the latest updates.
im very happy that this android development extended the life of a factory crippled phone but dont tell me that im the only one having this issue.
u have no idea how many times this thing freezes up right when i need it. when im in the car driving and need to use google maps but cant because this **** is bugging out.
or now for example it doesnt even load up sense it gives me the com.htc.bgp force close.
im very fn tired of this loading and unloading of cooked roms and actually looking for a phone that came with android.
like i said if you make something, EVEN IF ITS FREE, you are still responsible for making it work because people depend on it. and i dont have 2-3 hours a day to spend reading through this board trying to make my phone work again.
you can hate me or disagree i dont give a faq this is my opinion.
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Wow, you're an ungrateful bastard (to quote the 'you are a noob on XDA Developers video) IMO. How can you not appreciate what the Devs here are doing? They put in hours and hours of work, and you still don't appreciate how brilliant it has made the HD2?! Please, make us a perfect ROM, and share it with us, so that you can show us your perfect skills. Don't you read up on the issues of each ROM before flashing it?
Also, the system is EXTREMELY stable. My CM7 HD2 is far faster than my friend's DesHD. I get better battery life and it's just faster in general. You should really be more appreciative of the hard work of the brilliant devs here and also, before accusing people of BS and lying, think about whether it may be a problem with you.
Please, give your HD2 to someone with the mental capability to use it.

fuzzysig said:
the battery only lasted 3 hours.
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if i even think about txting or writing an email or god forbid browse internet that **** drops to almost dead batery instantly.
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fuzzysig said:
u have no idea how many times this thing freezes up right when i need it.
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faulty phone/battery.

yea thats what comcast says every time i make a trouble call
oh ur modem is bad... only to find out that their network has problems again and again.
my battery is fine and so is the phone.
it worked without a hitch for 4-5 months untill battery died first time. since then the problems just been piling up.
and finally today it wouldnt even show the home screen.
so again for the 4th time i lost all my new contacts and whatever information i had on it because it cant shut down properly when its dead.
im picking up an htc sensation that has android already on it so i dont have to deal with this bs no more.
and **** you MR public defender i never said i hate the developers and in any way ungratefull. i was trying to figure out how to deal with this problem untill people started accusing me of beeing ungratefull.
i know what it takes to make this work and have alot of respect for people that do it. but you put urself in my shoes maybe for a second.
i have my office on this phone and whenver it doesnt work i cant do **** anymore.
i had txt messages, notes, phone numbers etc saved here that i wasnt able to recover and had to reset my phone in order to make it work again.
spent 5 hours trying to make it work since yesterday so now tell me how the faq am i supposed to feel after dealing with this crap.
i switched to this phone because everyone claims its STABLE. yea stable untill your battery dies and then **** starts happening...
i went through 6 different roms that means every time i have to spend hours setting my customizations etc and saving the data that i have on it.
how convenient is that.
beeing faster doesnt mean its more stable btw...