Does anyone know how to perform a soft reset on the X10 without losing any data and not having to take out the battery? Thanks in advance.
What exactly are you trying to do? I'm not sure I follow. Is it something that just turning the phone off then on again would solve? To me that would be a "soft reset".
I did soft resset, but you will loose data. You dont need to open the battery though. Sync you contacts with google and save your txt and other docs at your SD then soft reset.
not sure if you can soft reset this phone. it has a factory reset but you will lose your data, all data on the phone.
i sync through sony ericsson and just synced again to get my contacts back.
These reset phrases are used rather incorrectly and confusing I've noticed. To my understanding, these are what they mean:
Soft Reset: Restarting from a function within the operating system, ie. clicking on a Reset icon or using the power button to invoke the shutdown command.
Hard Reset: Forcefully restarting the phone by removing the battery, putting in back in, and switching the phone on again. eg. the phone froze and can't Soft Reset it.
Factory Reset: Just what it says, resetting the phone, losing all data to revert back to factory conditions. Don't even need to take the battery out then in again.
So I don't get what the OP is trying to do.... unless OP wants to Factory Reset it without losing data? Which is not possible. And what's with removing the battery? What does that do you good?
From what I understand, Hard Reset IS a factory reset. Soft reset is when you restart within the OS. Turning it off and turning it back on is basically soft reset.
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So I don't get what the OP is trying to do.... unless OP wants to Factory Reset it without losing data? Which is not possible. And what's with removing the battery? What does that do you good?
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Sorry guys, I am coming from a Windows Mobile phone and I had to soft reset the phone few times a day to make it run faster. I was thinking if the X10 gets sluggish, I need to do the same but it doesn't sound like I do?
When you said without losing data and taking the battery out kinda confused us as to why would you lose data or needing to take the battery out just to Soft Reset it.
I was an X1 user, so Windows Mobile... so I know what you mean... needing to restart the phone when it's starting o slow down. So far my experience with X10, it's not like that. The longest I have been without restarting the X10 was 3.5 days, not because it's started to get sluggish, becuase it ran out of juice!
So far, I've never noticed any sluggishness if you don't restart the X10, bless the Android! Apart from the weird battery drain behaviour, I love my X10!
Immediately after restarting the phone, Task Manager says that the available memory is around 107 MB. (That is after killing all the unnecessary apps that are started at startup.)
After half a day, same apps running, I only have 77 MB.
After a couple of days without restart, I have seen numbers around 50 MB.
I haven't tested this thoroughly, but I feel that the phone responds faster after a restart. (Less lag in timescape, phonebook, etc.)
What is this memory leak, and does it seem right that a restart could improve performance?
There is no memory leak.
When you start an app, the app is loaded in memory.
When you exit the app with back button, the app will be kept in memory but in a suspended state (not using the CPU).
Of course, your RAM goes down but this is not a problem because Android is such a smart boy and will keep track of which apps are used often wnd which aren't so, when a new app will need RAM the less used is "unloaded" to make space for the new one.
Using task killers to kill apps and make RAM is bad.
Why?
1. Free memory is wasted memory
2. Starting an app every time is used will just drain more battery.
3. If is already in memory it will just change the state from suspended to running and will be there, running, in a second instead in 3 seconds or what ever is the load time for that app.
It makes you feel better when you see 200Mb free?
Use a task killer, set it to kill all the apps when the screen goes blank and after complain about the phone being laggy and the battery draining too fast.
It's not a memory leak.. it's the way the OS manages the memory.. it will leave stuff in memory in case you need to use it again, therefore being quicker.. using task killers, for example will actually slow the phone down a little, because it will have to load apps back into memory when you want to re-use them.. if it runs out of RAM then it will clear something from memory that isn't being used..
@TUX - Hahaha.. didn't see your reply til i'd typed mine out!!... SNAP!
Thanks for your replies. But I'm not sure I understand completely...
I sometimes kill apps that I won't be using for a long time. I check my e-mails in the morning, then I won't be using wifi for 12 hours, so I don't need the e-mail and browser apps during that period = I kill them. Is that unnecessary? Don't they use any of the battery at all? My first concern is battery capacity.
Also, my (poor?) understanding was that the phone uses some of the free memory when it starts new processes (for example, loading a contact's page). My second concern is to have timescape, contact management, etc running more smoothly.
At the moment, I only have ~30 MB available memory. My phone now uses ~3 seconds to start new apps. (No, not the ones I closed earlier today. ) 6 seconds for timescape (which was already running). Is that because it takes time to free up memory in order to run the new stuff?
When I shut down most of the apps (~100 MB free memory), it only takes 1-2 seconds to start new apps, including timescape (which was still running - not killed).
BTW, there seems to be a limit around 30 MB - even though I keep starting new apps, it does not drop below 30.
Final q... Does the phone store other stuff than apps in the memory? Perhaps hidden system processes? Running exactly the same list of apps (looking at task manager), I get very different amounts of free memory.
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These reset phrases are used rather incorrectly and confusing I've noticed. To my understanding, these are what they mean:
Soft Reset: Restarting from a function within the operating system, ie. clicking on a Reset icon or using the power button to invoke the shutdown command.
Hard Reset: Forcefully restarting the phone by removing the battery, putting in back in, and switching the phone on again. eg. the phone froze and can't Soft Reset it.
Factory Reset: Just what it says, resetting the phone, losing all data to revert back to factory conditions. Don't even need to take the battery out then in again.
So I don't get what the OP is trying to do.... unless OP wants to Factory Reset it without losing data? Which is not possible. And what's with removing the battery? What does that do you good?
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Firstly: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/support/phones/detailed/toperformasoftreset?cc=ie&cws4=true&lc=en
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Does anyone know how to perform a soft reset on the X10 without losing any data and not having to take out the battery? Thanks in advance.
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Secondly: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...ormasoftreset/xperiax10?cc=ie&cws4=true&lc=en
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Hi
This is my first post here. I have done a few searches about this and people seem to have experienced similar things. What I want to ask though is why this particular issue/s happen in the first place. Hope I'm not going over old ground but here goes:-
Have had my XDA II for a couple of months.
Last night, I had an error message saying that the memory was almost full, something about critical levals.
I checked the memory and it said there was only about 3 mb (out of 125.86 total) available main memory split between storage/program. Storage was up to about 110mb used, the balance in program.
This surprided me as I have only installed a couple of programs since new totalling about 4 mb.
The screen then froze.
Soft reset did nothing.
Hard reset did nothing.
Took battery out and back in. Only half rebooted and then froze. tried a few more times. Same again.
Took battery out and left for about 15 mins. this time started up OK. Performed hard reset.
Reinstalled the 2 programs which were lost during the above.
Now working fine again, with about 95mb of free memory!!
What puzzles me is:-
There was very little other data stored/programs running other than the 2 programs already mentioned so how the memory got so full I really don't know.
Why would it not reset until the battery was removed for 15 mins?
I have resolved it now and it seems to be working ok again but are these common problems? How can the memory be so full, but have 95mb free now when the same programs are installed? Is my XDA II faulty or is this normal?
Many thanks in advance
Hi, not sure why my user name did not appear in the above post, but just so you know, it was me!
Hopefully my registered user name will now appear.
Hmmmm.... I''m getting the same problem although when I did the hard reset it showed that I had an empty memory but I knew things were left behind as I didnt have to reinstall the unlock program.
Are you still running ok without crashes?
strange thing for me was that I dropped it on grass, it turned off and I couldnt start it again so I took out the battery and sim card and when I rebooted it hard set all by itself which was annoying!
Anyway, if yours is still running good I may do that to mine.
However there may be a fix for this problem, which is a memory leak issue evident on all PDA’s running windows mobile 2003 second edition. You will need to perform a hard reset (this will wipe the xda of all data and restore it to factory settings) when prompted select corporate option (enter the pin 0506 when prompted).
If I do a hard reset I go back to the old OS that isnt 2003 - it loads automatically with all the O2 **** that goes with it.
Everybody who is worrying about the market killing all of your space doesn't need to worry about it,I thought this was gonna just keep eating my memory and leave my phone with like 5 mb free but when it gets that low and you keep getting the low storage space message the phone takes care of it for you and deletes the market data with no problems. Here's what I did, I heard someone say this from this forum but I wasn't sure it would happen, I kept my phone at around 10mbs free after the market was about 22mbs of data then i got tired of it so I went on the browser and let the cache and data build up which I usually delete to keep free memory,I got the low storage space message but just ignored it,then I went on youtube and let that data build up without deleting it kept getting the message and then just like that,the market data dissapeared and I had 30 mbs of data free. Then about a hour later I had my phone charging and I went to use it and it froze and rebooted itself, and when I went to go check the memory i now had 47 mbs free with none of my programs or anything deleted and it's been good since then. This is such a releif for me,I hope this gives other people hope too
That is good to know. This should be fixed and more seamless. Instead of a warning that you have low memory, it should just whack worthless data first without having the constant warnings.
Agreed. I'm also hoping for better process management in the next update too.
....why don't you just reboot the phone periodically to completely wipe all the background apps. Hold Green (call) Red (power) and Menu buttons at once... simulates a Ctrl Alt Del
The phone shouldn't need rebooting.
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The phone shouldn't need rebooting.
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Just about every electronic device benefits from the occasional reboot. Caches fill up, memory leaks get out of control, programs attach to shared memory and never completely release it, etc. I'd probably just long-press the hangup button instead of doing a force reboot, although I have found mine seems to crash after 15-20 days of continuous operation so I haven't had to intentionally reboot since I've had it.
I use stock ROM at the moment with few added programs from trusted resources only (tomtom, coreplayer). I really like the phone. But around once a week it just stops responding, need to do reset. I am not heavy user of it, besides talking mostly use to read email, listen music, and check few web pages (no gaming, chating, etc). Spoke to some iPhone friends, they do not remember ever reseting device. I don't like iPhone for other reasons and really wanted this device to by iPhone killer It is in most cases, but not on stability, at least in my case.
Do you often need to reset the phone? Can something be done about it? I would agree to run some every night (sheduled) reset software if it exists. However it might be not possible, since during startup you need to enter PIN into phone...
How can I get my pride back?
do you close the applications after using them? please mind that by default, the x button only minimizes, leaving them open. to close, you must acces the task manager but it's much easier if you install a third party one. for example, with dutty's task manager you can set the x button to actually close the programs and also, you can very easily manage them.
besides this, i recommend you install cleanram which is a very good tool if you want to avoid resetting the phone.
you can disable the pin password in security settings.
I too use Tomtom and Coreplayer but I have only had to soft-reset once since I got the phone ages ago.
Mind you, I do switch the phone off and back on again every day before I synch with Outlook, so maybe that's why it's so stable!
thank you 27firesnake, will try to find dutty's task manager and cleanram to install. I do close programs from time to time, but not immediatelly. As you mentioned it is not that convenient.
Disabling PIN would allow to run some script to reset phone at some intervals. Most convenient would be to set it let's say to run at 4 a.m. on Saturday night, so it does not disturb you, but also limits the risk of not hearing alarm, if something goes wrong .... Wonder if that posibility to restart phone on shedule exists?
Jim, restarting phone every day certainly reduces potential error risk
i don't know if the phone has this feature already but there is a very nice app for this called g-profile. i installed it once and it worked fine on my hd2 but i don't really need it so i don't have it anymore. i recommend you try it, who knows it may become one of the essentials for you.
I have to restart my phone at least twice a week, back-cover off, battery out, and start it up again!
If I don't manually restart it each evening, sometimes the alarm doesn't go off in the morning and I might get the 'SMS stuck' problem during the following day ... so, by restarting it each evening the phone works more-or-less okay for me.
However, it's still sad that I need to do that on a 630 eur phone.
As I only got it a week ago and spend my time installing and removing stuff I'm resetting 10 times a day...
But once that early excitement phase is behind I hope it will be like my previous TyTN II, a reset every 1-2 weeks.
WM seems to have it's "humor" though. Sometimes it won't crash for 2 weeks, sometimes it will crash 5 times the same day. That's always doing the same things, of course.
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WM seems to have it's "humor" though. Sometimes it won't crash for 2 weeks, sometimes it will crash 5 times the same day. That's always doing the same things, of course.
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Thats one of the funnier things I've heard about WM for awhile!
I have a spare battery in an external charger. When the juice is low I swap it for the freshly charged battery, thereby doing a soft reset anyway. On average my battery lasts 2 days. So I soft reset every 2 days.
Reasons I do this:
- Prolongs each battery by spreading out the number of cycle charges (I think its ~300 for LiIon batteries).
- Soft reset = fresh RAM to play with.
- By opening and closing the battery cover on a regular basis, I hope to loosen it (its so bloody tight!).
I used to have a application on my TP that had a lot of features including to soft reset the phone every night, and entering your pin code (which you had to insert in that program) i will look for it again when im home i hope i still have it. it also had some really usefull features like turn the sound of during the night!
Is there any way to do a soft restart with this phone? Sometimes it seems to be running slowly even after I kill all the tasks. I know i can do it by taking the battery out but that is a pain as I also have to take the case out. Any thoughts? I am coming from a Windows Mobile phone and you just had to click a button to do that.
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Is there any way to do a soft restart with this phone? Sometimes it seems to be running slowly even after I kill all the tasks. I know i can do it by taking the battery out but that is a pain as I also have to take the case out. Any thoughts? I am coming from a Windows Mobile phone and you just had to click a button to do that.
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Android is nothing like WM. In fact, you don't even need to ever use task killer. It only exists in Android to make former WM users comfortable. Android manage dormant apps on its own without killing your memory.
To soft reset, just power the phone off by holding the power button and selecting power off.
It'll take a bit to get used to it but trust me, I went from years of WM to Android 1.5yrs ago and there is no need to manage tasks like in WM.
android automatically kills the app that you hardly use and free up the memory.
also, task killer wont help you save battery.
I would love an app that simply reboots the phone with a click of an icon. Nothing available without being rooted it seems though.
I can't tell you how many times I shut off the phone and then forget to turn it back on...
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Android is nothing like WM. In fact, you don't even need to ever use task killer. It only exists in Android to make former WM users comfortable. Android manage dormant apps on its own without killing your memory.
To soft reset, just power the phone off by holding the power button and selecting power off.
It'll take a bit to get used to it but trust me, I went from years of WM to Android 1.5yrs ago and there is no need to manage tasks like in WM.
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Hexto, thanks for explaining this to me. It is a pretty foreign experience. I have a follow up question for you though.
Sometimes I notice that my phone seems to be running slow, choppy, or unresponsive. I will try to dial someone and it doesn't do anything. Now on a Windows Mobile phone that would be a good time to just restart it. On this phone I have done Advanced Task Killer and killed all but a few programs and it gets noticeably faster. Doesn't that mean that it isn't managing the tasks well enough? Once or twice even that didn't make it fast enough so I took the battery out and started it back up to get it back to normal.
What am I misunderstanding?
I've had my Galaxy Tab (Verizon edition) now for under a week. Naturally, that means I've been installing apps on it every day.
Last night an issue cropped up that turns out to be a deeper problem than I thought.
To start, I'd randomly see a force close for the built-in Google Maps app. Force closes aren't necessarily unusual, but this was force closing every 10 seconds or so. And it wasn't running. No sign of it in any of the task manager or application manager or running services areas. Yet, it was crashing.
(Don't worry, the fun doesn't end there.)
So, I suspected the last couple of apps I installed and uninstalled them (more on this later). The problem didn't go away. Around this time, other apps started crashing randomly -- often without a force close (much more like how iOS apps crash -- a return to the home screen).
The crashing always coincides with a single short vibrate then a triple-vibrate about 5 seconds later when the app closes or the force close dialog comes up. This happens in nearly any app -- from the home screen (less common) to the Browser, maps, settings, gmail, 3rd party apps, etc.
But wait, there's more...
I wasn't observant enough the first time to notice that the suspected apps were never uninstalled. Now no app will actually install. When I perform the uninstall, everything seems fine. Until I reboot. Then the app is back, fully functional.
None of the apps are installed to the SD card. The device is not rooted. The device claims just over a gigabyte of internal memory free, and slightly under half the SD card free.
Anyone see any of this behavior? I'm hoping to avoid doing a factory reset -- while also unsure that it would even do anything if something else is wrong. And the two issues (crashing and uninstalls-not-sticky) aren't necessarily related.
This isn't my first Android device, either... I haven't seen this or anything like it on the G1, N1, Droid, Evo, Archos, or any other device, for that matter.
Thoughts? Ideas? Musings? Questions?
[Update: Device was replaced. If it wasn't a hardware problem, it was still good enough to prompt the retailer to replace it. They easily accepted, "The factory reset doesn't work." as a reason.)
Sounds to me like there is something wrong with the internal memory chip. I would return the device within the DOA warranty if I were you.
Seems that it probably is a hardware issue.
I tried a factory reset (which appears to be a very convenient way to boot in to recovery mode, BTW) and it was only able to delete a portion of data. All of the apps are still there, all the data, etc. (The SD card aside, the factory wipe doesn't touch that.)
So, back it goes for exchange!
I just started having the same problem today and I have not installed any new apps although I did update date my existing apps a few days ago. My phone is rooted but by your discription that's not the cause.
I did reset my phone and I formated my SD memory. I also use a code that I found to reset the phone to factory and reset everything. Non of this has solved the problem.
I'm still trying and I'll let you know it I have any positive results.
I'm on a Galaxy S Vibrant with 2.2 Firmware, Froyo and a 2.6.32.9 kernel