hello i recently bought Touch Hd device and upgarded and changed almost 15+ WM6.1 and 6.5 roms. but none of them is good since the performance is too weak even my HTC Prophet device with wm6.5 and only 195MHZ CPU perform faster and smooter . I have also installed Neo Graphic Drivers 3 on my HD but no lock. performance of this 528MHZ device is really low and poor any one have suggestion?
Change telephone if you don't like this.!
xborfi said:
hello i recently bought Touch Hd device and upgarded and changed almost 15+ WM6.1 and 6.5 roms. but none of them is good since the performance is too weak even my HTC Prophet device with wm6.5 and only 195MHZ CPU perform faster and smooter . I have also installed Neo Graphic Drivers 3 on my HD but no lock. performance of this 528MHZ device is really low and poor any one have suggestion?
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I'm very very skeptical for that...
But of course, do you run TF3D on your prophet ? I would like to see it faster than on the touch HD. Can you please make a video ? I'd rather doubt it... of course if you compare the today screen on the prophet over the touch HD TF3D... it is possible, but TF3D adds services and possiblities too..
Honestly, i went from artemis... to diamond... and the touch HD, and the HD is the best of all ! Beetween the diamond and the artemis, i was less impressed .. but the diamond battery drain was awful ! But for rapidity the HD is great !
Have you tried to tweak a little your HD ?
Ciao
Fred
I've been playing with a few 6.5 roms recently. Moved back to 6.1 and decided to reinstall from scratch.... never has the device been so smooth.
Waiting for a complete rom before upgrading again.... would love tflo2.5 on the standard rom.
i have the same idea as u .... i´m starting to be very disappointed with my touch HD,
with these rom's is better, but graphically it is very soft spot.... and the gps very laggy .....
for a phone that cost almost € 600, is weak ...
You have to know that WM6.5 isn´t released yet and AFAIK i won´t be released oficially for Touch HD, so we cannot expect that it runs like on WM6.1.
Even with all tweaks the cookers try to implement into the Roms it will be difficult (or let´s say impossible) to release a "Perfect" Rom until the final Build is released. Almost every week a new Build is released.
So i think we all should wait until a final release of WM6.5 comes out and then we can see what cookers can do with it.
No one is obligated to use a WM6.5 Rom.
I recently upgraded from Touch Diamond to Touch HD. And I am impressed... the fluidity of TF3D 2.1, programs opening and closing etc really blew me away. There was no way my TD could match the HD.
Are you loading too many programs into your system memory? For me, ALL programs are loaded into Storage Card, and I only use 33% of memory (according to Task Manager)... maybe this would make a difference?
It is increasingly frustrating.
Can't wait to get a Leo with a decent processor.
xborfi said:
hello i recently bought Touch Hd device and upgarded and changed almost 15+ WM6.1 and 6.5 roms. but none of them is good since the performance is too weak even my HTC Prophet device with wm6.5 and only 195MHZ CPU perform faster and smooter . I have also installed Neo Graphic Drivers 3 on my HD but no lock. performance of this 528MHZ device is really low and poor any one have suggestion?
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I had similar thoughts and almost sold my HD until I tried Panosha's rom. I tried many roms and this one to me is the most stable and relatively quick. I also have a Touch Diamond 2 and that device blows away any other in terms of speed and responsiveness. But I love the HD too and this Rom saved it from going up for sale. Maybe worth a try if you haven't yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495233&highlight=panosha
y dont u go look at the rom benchmark
well i would like to share my 30+ days achivments on trying almost all HD roms.
as I like to have WM 6.1 sine it is fast and actually there is no diffremce between 6.1 and slow 6.5 roms I selected wm 6.1 roms. since I like to have Manila 2.6 I go for Miri's Rom! it is really perfect . a cool combination of WM6.1 and manila 2.6 brings speed and eye candy rom.
the initial spped is REALLY NOT reach the OLD beloved Prophet how ever doing dome tweeks made the rom fast enugh not to bother me!
here what i have done :
1-installd miri's rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278
>>2-changed the Glyph cache to 2KB ( making SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN SPEED )
3-installed Neo Driver Pack 3
4-Disabled the Weather animation which really slow down the device
5-installed finger key bored which is fast and not laggy ad also multilanguage and BEAUTIFUL
now i have a Daily Useable device which is fast and candy!
how ever stiil The OLD prophet respond faster even the graphic is a bit poor!
IMHO TF3D is really a USELESS application and I am looking to find a way to install manila 2D on WM6.1 on touch HD! that would be a dream ROM. since all of the problems source is TF3D! TF3D is not for our devices mybe Leo with 1 GHZ can handel it...
I read somewhere that sense was being released for WM,
has it?
and,
is it working on any other phones, specifically the good ole nike??
Cheers,
Look in the first section in "upgrading". It is on the first page, dude.
No, Sense 2.5 isn't working on the good old Nike because Sense 2.5 is WVGA and needs really huge 3D power! It's not working flawlessly on a 528 MHz Touch Pro 2 (even for me) nd the TP2 has better 3D drivers than the Nike, which has no good 3D drives at all!
Remember: Sense 2.5 was released with the Leo who has 1 GHz and a real GPU!
I use a Touch Diamond (for now) and have been using sense 2.5 for a couple of months now, ported to VGA, works like a dream, currently with wm 6.5 21882. so yes it is possible, someone just needs to cook up a good Nike ROM with qvga sense incorporated into it, with a 400mhz processor it should still run ok, since it runs fine on my 528mhz diamond.
orangekid said:
I use a Touch Diamond (for now) and have been using sense 2.5 for a couple of months now, ported to VGA, works like a dream, currently with wm 6.5 21882. so yes it is possible, someone just needs to cook up a good Nike ROM with qvga sense incorporated into it, with a 400mhz processor it should still run ok, since it runs fine on my 528mhz diamond.
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This isnt true my friend, try to do this on Polaris... Is possible but the result is terrible
orangekid said:
I use a Touch Diamond (for now) and have been using sense 2.5 for a couple of months now, ported to VGA, works like a dream, currently with wm 6.5 21882. so yes it is possible, someone just needs to cook up a good Nike ROM with qvga sense incorporated into it, with a 400mhz processor it should still run ok, since it runs fine on my 528mhz diamond.
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Yeah, for Diamond it's quite usable but the Diamond has a much better graphics chip with a little bit better drivers then Nike, Polaris and Kaiser! That's the reason why Manila 2.5 would never run like on Diamond or any newer device!
HI ALL,
I had a htc magic and I have suffered with low configuration, so I thought to buy a HD2,the problem is that the hd2 was released since November 2009, so it is still powerful (with sense 3.0, SPB Shell 3D, regina 3D launcher, ...) ?
is the htc desire HD more powerful than the HD2 ? but the desire can not run the WM & Android
sorry for my english
i think you should choose HD2 if you will try WM & Android
hamzawi said:
HI ALL,
I had a htc magic and I have suffered with low configuration, so I thought to buy a HD2,the problem is that the hd2 was released since November 2009, so it is still powerful (with sense 3.0, SPB Shell 3D, regina 3D launcher, ...) ?
is the htc desire HD more powerful than the HD2 ? but the desire can not run the WM & Android
sorry for my english
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The DHD isn't really much more powerful than the HD2. It has very slightly better hardware, but it's negligible.
The HD2 has some issues with Sense 3, I have not found a ROM that doesn't lag at times, so I stick with CM7. If I had a Sensation though I'd probably put an AOSP launcher or CM7 when it was out...
Between a DHD and HD2 I'd get the HD2 any day of the week, the only real upgrade would be a Sensation or GS2.
i saw 2 videos,the first was a hd2 running htc sense 3.0 et the second was the HDH with the same os,the hd2 lag and the HDH doesn't.
and what about using live wallpapers and HD games ? will the hd2 lag or not ?
why does the hd2 lag with the sense 3.0 ? is it lack of RAM or what ???
hamzawi said:
i saw 2 videos,the first was a hd2 running htc sense 3.0 et the second was the HDH with the same os,the hd2 lag and the HDH doesn't.
and what about using live wallpapers and HD games ? will the hd2 lag or not ?
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why does the hd2 lag with the sense 3.0 ? is it lack of RAM or what ???
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that's true, but CM7 runs about the same on both.
I've noticed that native Android devices tend to run Sense 3 better, maybe a driver conversion thing, but the Evo I had with a sense 3 ROM ran it really well with no lag, and every sense 3 ROM I've used on the HD2 lags.
If you want lag free Sense 3 get a Sensation, I would bypass the DHD altogether.
The HD2 runs games and apps just fine on CM7 or AOSP based lighter ROMs.
Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
Cyber Akuma said:
Its for my father's HD2, Windows Mobile is pretty much useless nowadays, and he loves the Voice Search feature on my Evo 3D. Its going to be a NAND rom, not booting from SD, that would be too annoying for him to use.
Thing is, there are only about 1000 roms for this thing....... even dozens of versions of Cyanogen.
And on top of that, I don't know how well some of the custom roms with Sense 2.0 or 3.0 would work, or if any are missing hardware support.
I understand you lose performance if you add-on alternate UIs like sense, but how big is the performance hit? Hes not going to be playing high-end 3D games or performing protein folding or anything on the thing, so as long as the performance loss doesn't hit the "Phone becomes laggy, input lags, and it takes forever to load anything" range, I would actually prefer a sense based rom than one without.
Again, I am doing this for someone that isn't TOO technical, though no stranger to computers either, so I don't need a rom packed full of overclocking and root tweaking options (though a rooted rom would still be preferred).
So then, are there any good Sense 3.0 roms for the HD2 available? Got any you recommend? Do they still support all of the phone's hardware?
If not, what would be your next choice? Is there much point in using Sense 2.0 over vanilla android other than the extra sense widgets which he would probably not care about? Sense 3.0 does have the looping home screens and the very functional lock screen that I know he would find useful.
Thanks, I know a lot of people ask for recommendations, but after searching for roms for days and basically flying blind in the "maybe this one will be good, its got a lot of people installing it" category I could really use some advice, especially for a Sense 3.0 rom... if they exist.
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If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
Linkies:
- Typhoon
- Dorimanx
- DHD Sense 3 - Dungphp
Moon2 said:
If you really want sense, go for a dhd sense 3 rom (Runnymede Sense 3.5 works well on mine), and if you really want looping homescreens, install launcherpro on any rom of your choice.
BUT I'd recommend a cm7/miui rom because in the end, it's still slow.
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Not a fan of Sense 3.5 over 3.0 personally.
And just how slow is it compared to CM7? I mean, I understand CM7 will be faster than a sense rom, even CM7 with sense hacked in, but as long as its not laggy or sluggish thats fine, I don't need it to break benchmark records and run the latest 3d software.
I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
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I really like the sense 3.X roms... and i don't find them THAT slow (i have a DHD).
But that god damn graphic glitch is anoying, and i'm not going to disable GPU rendering of sense to get it working without glitches... must wait
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Im new to NAND HD2, but not new to the HD2 ( sold my 1st one, just got another the other day ) but I just flashed my first Android NAND ROM and I noticed all thse graphic glitches, i thought it was something else. But apparently its a common problem for everyone? No fix Im assuming.
Anyways im curious what you mean by DHD?
GHetting to performance, HD2 isnt bad at all! Im old time Android owner going back to the G1 and myTouch 3G.If you wanna see degraded performance try flashing a Sense rom on a G1 or 32B device. OWwwo
Well I can recommend Rafdroid rom. Its Sense2 stock froyo. Works mostly well.
So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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So, did they ever fix those graphic glitches people keep complaning about?
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there are roundabout fixes yes
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
rzw said:
I have the same question (which ROM to use?) but this post still doesnt not give me a clear answer. I have been using Mikhei777 sense 3.0 version (original) but it has lots of lag and is fairly sluggish. He has upgraded it a few times but now seems to be spending more time on the sense 3.5 version. Its my wifes phone so do not want to keep trying new versions. Just want someone to recommend a known good stable version...
Thanks
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Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
HyperDroiD CM7 5.3.0 from Pongster ... my actual ROM ... stable, fast, last gingerbread 2.3.7 ... simply fantastic
nystao said:
Rafdroid from Rafpigna if you want sense without glitches
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Strange, I can't find that one here:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
I've been using Mikhei777's Android 2.2.1 Sense 2.0 rom for quite some time. It works great and haven't had any problems at all with it. The wifi hotspot works also. Not sure about bluetooth and USB tethering stuff. Don't use them. He deleted a lot of the useless system apps but there is a rar file you can download from the first post that has all of the deleted stuff in case there is something you want to put back in it. I've only put on Facebook and the text to speech stuff. I'm not using an ext on my phone since I have a TMOUS HD2 so, I don't have memory issues. Give it a try. If you don't like it you can always flash something else.
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MIUI builds are very slick, very impressive on the HD2, can't imagine it being any slicker or faster as there seems to be zero lag whatsoever.
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exactly, wise words...
if you want a good rom with everything working, miui is the way to go. If your friend is not a hardcore techie, he better stays away from those Sense roms. try it for yourself and compare.. but seriously feature wise Sense is so outdated compared to miui (except the htc widgets maybe).
cheers
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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That's why I use PAT's MIUI Rom with Sense launcher. It combines the best of the 2 world's. Very fast,customizable and everything is working like in other MIUI rom's and a very good, customizable launcher with the most important sense widget's.
No graphic glitches, not a disabled GPU acceleration and camcorder with full resolution and without lags. And the newest Android 2.3.7 version.
Use this rom since some month's, will never go back to the slow sense rom's. Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co. But there is already an alternative dialer on the market, probably he can also display the actual feelings (posted in facebook) of the incoming caller and such nonsense.
daedric said:
The worst about MIUI, it's that laggish launcher/desktop.
I don't know why... it fells "low frame rate".
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now you have surprised me not sure which version of miui you are refering to, but i am on jan-willems miui and there is zero lag (its butter smooth) on the luncher. basically there are no issues at all.
btw installing a 3rd party launcher on miui is a no go, as it decrases the fuctionality.. people no offense, but you need to read the miui bible
@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
marcusloosewire99 said:
If you are looking for a good ROM, Team Blue Droid have produced an excellent sense 3.5 Rom which looks the business and works far better than many others I have flashed recently on mh EU HD2. I am not that technically minded regarding SD card partition types, but I run mine via SD card after flasing a 1024 partition using CMR and the accompanying DAF.exe.
link is below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1275119
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I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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@Nixda99
one question, what do you mean by:
"Only the dialer facebook integration of the sense dialer isn't there, but I don't have facebook and Co."?
When i get a call from a Facebook contact i can actually see its profile pic from facebook. On contact details i also see his status or last comment or whatever its called clicking on it, opens the facebook app and goes to this comment. is that what you meant?
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Yes!
There are missing also the hardware switching widgets (WLAN, Mobile Network...) but all is in the top status bar. You have only the contacts and the calendar widget, but it's enough for me.
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car01 said:
I totally agree. The latest version 2.2 is just fantastic
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But no hardware acceleration or with graphical glitches, only the new sense kernels should solve this problem. I don't know if there already stable.
How many free ram do you have after start with this rom?