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very slow ROM development

Hi all
Love my Nexus One
being a heavy user of many winmo and android devices feel like the ROM development on this is very dull
any reasons?

I noticed that too, then again...most of the nexus ROMs out are near perfect...and don't require as much hackery as the G1 Roms did...I dunno whatsup with any ports as of yet, but I'm sure things will pick up.

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most of the nexus ROMs out are near perfect...
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This is exactly it. The fact that there aren't constant updates to ROMs is a success I think...it means nothing is horridly broken. This is the first phone I've had in a long time, that I've been so satisfied with, I'm not flashing a new ROM every other day.

We have the latest version of android out there that is accessible by the public or the ROM devs (that they can release).
We aren't trying to backport features because of the above.
The only real (I say real in a non "thanks bro" way) ROM porter we have is without internet (I assume on vacation).
As stated above, most things already work as they should.
While development is slow compared to the G1, also remember that all of our devs also do work on other devices and don't just devote all their android expertise to just one phone.

There isn't any new material to work with. Until Google releases FroYo or new beta updates we're at a stand still.

If you worked in the software world, you would be seeing this as a good thing

chowdarygm said:
Hi all
Love my Nexus One
being a heavy user of many winmo and android devices feel like the ROM development on this is very dull
any reasons?
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Here you go!
http://android.git.kernel.org/
Hope to see some awesome ROMs from you.
Enjoy!

Its a good thing because there are no major bugs in existing ROMs. They only get updated when google or some dev introduces new features...

This is my first phone which is still running stock ROM. With all my earlier devices...something always seemed broken or felt like it lacked something.
When I had Touch.. Touchflo was launched by HTC and all the ROM development was diverted to getting Touchflo on Touch. And with lack of enough RAM, there were always choices to be made on what you want and hence many ROMS
Then I got Diamond. It was good, but again had less RAM than Touch Pro. Again race was to get Touch Pro features in Diamond and again choices had to be made to cramp up things in the limited storage.
Then I got Touch Pro... and within few months, Diamond II and Touch Pro II was launched. Cooks started scrambling to get new touchflo 3d on Diamond and Touch Pro.
Then I got Diamond II, and sure enough HTC continued there trend of backstabbing it's customers and launched HD2 with new touchflo aka Sense. Cooks then started to figure out ways to get Sense UI on diamond II.
So you see, there were always things lacking... which forced cooks to figure out things that HTC should have done for us. HTC's first Touch phone was launched along with iPhone... but touch hasn't received any updates for past 2 years.... and Apple is still supporting iPhone (although no OS4 for them).
N1 on the other hand is Google's responsibility. We have the latest OS and features. There is not enough "to-do" things here.
Regardless of that, our Chefs are doing amazing job at giving us the features which AOSP is still finalizing.
With all due respect to you.. I think it is a bit unfair to say that the chefs aren't doing much.

chowdarygm said:
Hi all
Love my Nexus One
being a heavy user of many winmo and android devices feel like the ROM development on this is very dull
any reasons?
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I'm sorry, we'll get right on it, boss.

It is "slow" because the phone and the ROMs are so damn fast and good already. You can't port 1.5/6 ROMs over because we can't map the buttons without having a 1.5/6 Kernel made for the Nexus One. That is never going to happen.
As well, really? What is slow about the development? We have tons of new apps coming out all the time, the ROMs we have a super fast and super stable. New Kernels every day or two pushing battery life and CPU power even further.
There is tons of development going on. Just because you aren't seeing new ROMs every day doesn't mean a lack of development, it means the ROMs we have are super solid, and development has shifted to making the other aspects better, like apps themselves, and so forth. That is one of the best things about Android, you don't need to flash a new ROM just to get some new apps, like HexiLauncher and what not, all you need to do is install the app, and voila you have a new home/launcher option on your phone.
Or, you don't need to flash a new ROM just to get a new kernel, you can flash the kernel yourself (if you know how to follow simple instructions) that gives you the newest features, and features that mean more to our phones running super fast than a new ROM would mean... actually by ROM I am talking about system.img...
Anyways, if you really think things are just way to slow, then either learn how to do it yourself, make a huge donation to your favorite developer on the basis of them picking up the pace (and by huge, I mean 50k+, so they can quit their day job), or just accept the simple fact that there is a ton of development going on already, you (and many as of late) don't seem to understand enough to realize that kernels and apps are more important, at this point in time, than a ROM update every other day.

LOL another one of these threads curious as to what else can you ask for? All the tweaks that are available and possible for this phone has already been done.

thanks to all those who replied.
i am not blaming any chefs. they are doing a highly respected job and i respect them and their work very much. thanks to all of them
i was just telling that the no.of chefs on this device are very less but maybe the reasons are diff as everyone told
like king personally coz he does experiments like blur and others
personally i like experimenting with diff roms , so only felt little jobless as compared to other devices but happy with almost perfect device.

Now this I would agree with you. The number of ROM devs are a lot less compared to the G1, :-( the phone is fairly new though.. But the ones we have working on the N1 are all great nevertheless .
chowdarygm said:
thanks to all those who replied.
i am not blaming any chefs. they are doing a highly respected job and i respect them and their work very much. thanks to all of them
i was just telling that the no.of chefs on this device are very less but maybe the reasons are diff as everyone told
like king personally coz he does experiments like blur and others
personally i like experimenting with diff roms , so only felt little jobless as compared to other devices but happy with almost perfect device.
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ahh.. so you are suffering from what I call XDA syndrome. It's when you start feeling uncomfortable when you haven't flashed a new ROM in a week. I had that too... back in WinMo days... fortunately N1 has helped and I have resisted so far!

re: above post..
hahahaha... "XDA Syndrome"
Seriously though, Modaco has been gone for awhile. Got stuck cuz of the volcano issue... it's been weeks since he has released even an update!
We are a little spoiled with the N1 I think... on top of that with 2.2 coming out shortly I think a bunch of cooks will be kinda waiting for that to come out before they do any more major tweaking.
The main thing I personally am waiting for is a fully working SenseUI on the N1.... I kinda thought it would materialize much quicker once the DESIRE came out.

arkavat said:
ahh.. so you are suffering from what I call XDA syndrome. It's when you start feeling uncomfortable when you haven't flashed a new ROM in a week. I had that too... back in WinMo days... fortunately N1 has helped and I have resisted so far!
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LOL... i think i have the same problem im feenin for another enom rom but as he stated he was on vacation which i can respect cause im going to Miami soon. I have no complaints to the rom development but i'd love to see more themes like motoblur style X10 style i miss my motoblur theme on my magic
[edit] And before your go saying i should make one myself i tried and it was to difficult for me for some reason.

Coming from winmo myself it was a change not having a dozen or more roms to choose from but in reality looking at it objectively most of the roms are either adding something that came in a newer device or more or less a rehash of what was already done in that they didnt do anything new but they did it in a different way. Not that the latter is a bad thing, the improved layouts people came up with greatly eased, speeded up, reduceded the number of clicks, etc. in getting where you wanted to go and I at least was happy to see them coming down the pipe. As an aside when winmo was as youthful as android is now there was a lot less rom activity than what you see now as best as I can recall back.

arkavat said:
ahh.. so you are suffering from what I call XDA syndrome. It's when you start feeling uncomfortable when you haven't flashed a new ROM in a week. I had that too... back in WinMo days... fortunately N1 has helped and I have resisted so far!
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lol, I had that like 2 weeks ago...kept flashing and flashing and flashing...finally I settled on my highly customized 5.0.5.3, still haven't jumped to 5.0.6 due to wifi issues (and me being suspended until payment next week)

I had 'XDA Syndrome' with my Magic.. I found myself flashing something new (ROM or theme) every week. Now with my Nexus, I have no desire to do so. Like others have already said, I think it's a testament to the stability of the ROMS out there coupled with the fact that 2.1 is already kick ass. We already have the best software on our N1's people. Believe me, once 3.0 or even Froyo comes out we will see an increase in ROM development.
Also, there may not be many devs for the N1 as of now, but many of the absolute best ones have a Nexus so I'm not worried about future development.

[REQ] Windows Mobile 6.5.3/5 STOCK ROM

Hey guys,
does anyone have a stock rom of the latest winmo?
I've upgraded to the latest UK O2 Rom, 1.72 but I'd like the new UI with the larger buttons, i've started to get my claw of a hand round my HD2 but hitting small little buttons is a bit difficult. So if someone knows where there is a Stock Rom i'd be really appreciative.
Many Thanks,
Luke.

There is no 6.5.x stock ROM now....

HTC support has always sucked at providing the latest software for their handsets.

There is a WM6.5.X stock ROM...but it is not for Leo. I think you can stuck with just WM6.5 ROMs, unless you want to flash a kooked ROM, which is usually far better than a stock ROM.

personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions

vrgolin said:
personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions
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very true... you sums up almost everything. the only addition to your comments is that the stock roms suck too... and there is virtually no moving behind after you try some of the cooked roms... unfortunately there is so many chefs but no one concentrate on developing a stable release.

vrgolin said:
personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions
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Yeah, agreed. Cooked ROMs are fun to play around with, but in the long run my experience has been you get better stability and battery life from HTC's own ROMs. Some of the stuff from telcos like Vodafone and T-Mobile seems really bad, but the clean ROMs straight from HTC have been the best in my experience.
Sadly though, doesn't seem like HTC is doing anything on the HD2 anymore. Anyone ask them about the next ROM update and whether it might be 6.5.x? It's been basically four months since the last update... I really hope 6.5.x is being planned for the HD2. I never expected the HD2 to be upgradeable to WP7, but they have to give it 6.5.x at least especially since it doesn't look like HTC will have any other flagship WM devices until WP7.

younus_malik said:
very true... you sums up almost everything. the only addition to your comments is that the stock roms suck too... and there is virtually no moving behind after you try some of the cooked roms... unfortunately there is so many chefs but no one concentrate on developing a stable release.
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Actually they are all pretty stable, it is more likely the 20 incompatible apps you install and expect to work. Why not give feedback to the chefs about these issues.
Dont forget that to port an OS not designed for a particular device and also make work any OEM UI etc is no easy task, its never going to be perfect (and there's no such thing as perfect in any OS, UI, device) Even if there is a stock WM6.5.x the cooked ROMs will still far excell the stock ROM.
Personally I cook my own ROMs that way I can customize it just how I want, if you think you can do a better job than the other chefs by concentrating on stability then why not learn to cook yourself.
vrgolin said:
personalment I think that the stock roms are better than any cooked rom, every single cooked rom that I've tried have some errors or bug and I have tried almost all vercions
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What a load of bollocks and what a useless thread, better closed MODs imo.

Yup mods are tons in Leo, and yet this thread is still open!?

Why would you close this thread? I know cooked ROMs are really popular, but is there something wrong with having a different opinion?

well I think that we have freedom of give our opinions about it, I respect what you say, but to me does not interest me if the cooked roms are 6.5 or 6.5.x , i dont care about how fast it is, or memory or consumption batery, if they are out of errors or bugs, i think that all roms are sufficiently fast.
shruff said:
Actually they are all pretty stable, it is more likely the 20 incompatible apps you install and expect to work. Why not give feedback to the chefs about these issues.
Dont forget that to port an OS not designed for a particular device and also make work any OEM UI etc is no easy task, its never going to be perfect (and there's no such thing as perfect in any OS, UI, device) Even if there is a stock WM6.5.x the cooked ROMs will still far excell the stock ROM.
Personally I cook my own ROMs that way I can customize it just how I want, if you think you can do a better job than the other chefs by concentrating on stability then why not learn to cook yourself.
What a load of bollocks and what a useless thread, better closed MODs imo.
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hey, and i dnt knw if this is what you mean
but there is a clean win mo 6.5.3 rom out by l3v5y.
HOWEVER, it is a COOKED rom BUT comes in 3 "flavours"
there is a simple win mo 6.5.3 rom no sense ui...which is what i think your after
theres a lite and a full version (with htc sense)
i'd post the link but XDA is stopping me because im a new user
so try
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hpe it helps

i've tried almost all of the cooked roms and though there are some fantastic features above and beyond what you get from stock rom, there is allways a bug or 2 that dissappoint.
and no, i don't have 20 or so incompatible apps. in fact i don't install anything until i'm happy that the rom is stable enough (which it never is).
despite that, i have much respect for all the cooks! this place wouldn;t be here if it wasn't for them!!
shruff said:
Actually they are all pretty stable, it is more likely the 20 incompatible apps you install and expect to work. Why not give feedback to the chefs about these issues.
Dont forget that to port an OS not designed for a particular device and also make work any OEM UI etc is no easy task, its never going to be perfect (and there's no such thing as perfect in any OS, UI, device) Even if there is a stock WM6.5.x the cooked ROMs will still far excell the stock ROM.
Personally I cook my own ROMs that way I can customize it just how I want, if you think you can do a better job than the other chefs by concentrating on stability then why not learn to cook yourself.
What a load of bollocks and what a useless thread, better closed MODs imo.
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can we agree on a single winmo rom to use with android?

should we all pick a specific winmo build and radio and test our android builds on it?
that way we can pinpoint the issues easier.
because as of now theres about a dozen different winmo builds running under android and the whole ****load of issues were having with android gets blamed on different radio and winmo builds.
can we kinda get our sht together( the users not the developers and cooks) and participate a lil more in this? at least by submitting productive reviews of the android build we use.
and having same exact winmo build and radio would im sure help alot in tracking down the problems that we re having.
i mean does it take alot to agree on one winmo build at least untill android is able to boot itsself up without winmo.
because as everyone can see,
even though the cooks claim to have no problems, we still get problems with pretty much everything, happening on random phones, and im assuming part of the reason is using different winmo builds.

i agree. there are many good winmo builds. and a great number of them run flawlessly with android. however its always a good idea to run what the developer is running. as i have been using the 'standard' energy build with 2.12.50 and have still been encountering strange issues like settings not being present on my phone (froyostone)
id personally like to hear what the developers think is the best winmo base rom.
and have everyone who wishes to run android and participate in bug reporting etc. to switch over to the chosen winmo rom.
would make life easier. +1 to the OP

I pretty much keep quiet in these forums but think this is a great idea. I'm using radio 2.12.50.02_2 which I've found as best and Elegencia V2.0 Final WWE rom.

Maybe we can force some sort of format to be used when stating an issue? Region, carrier, WinMo rom and version, settings changed, Android build? Maybe we should vote on a main rom for WinMo ment just for Android, with an active chef, that way we can iron out the bugs.

a group effort would help alot i think, since we all technically testing the builds we might as well be a bit more organized as HD2 users since it would benefit all of us by speeding up the android development.
i havent been diggin thru this phone long enough to know the whole system, maybe one of the cooks or few cooks can get together and bake an apropriate android winmo rom so we can all use it as a reference.
since most of android users/ testers run android daily without going to windows much i dont think anyone would suffer from running a stripped winmo build.
and once the robot can breathe on its own we can then focus on stability with different winmo builds, if that would be needed at all.
that involves cooks as well, i know you guys are running your own builds and all
but it would be a lil harder for us users to switch winmo builds for every different version of android that is coming out, because theres a new andy build almost every day.
if we could pick one and update it when needed????

well i see there are couple roms that are made for android,
i personally been using chunkyrom for all my androids
and seen alot of them beeing used as well.
can someone list the roms so i can make a poll

As stated earlier, just follow the setup the developer is using and you minimise any issues.

Personally I think a specific rom will be useful in trouble shooting.
But personally I cant stand most of the winmo rom's I dont use it very often but Incase something isnt working I need a rom that i can switch to and everything works.
I've tried chucky ive tried miri and both didnt work out. Honestly I am more versed in android than I am in winmo. So when I had problems with data connection Id revert back to energy.
So id have to vote for any energy based rom with working tethering!

Sorry, I dont think this is ever gonna work. I use my own WM ROM that I cooked myself, it has been stable for the last 6 months and I really cont be bothered faffing around changing the rom as it is exactly how I like it. The hardcore flashers may just about go with this but I actually have to use winmo quite heavily for work.
I have played about with the radio but still prefer the old 2.08 because it works best for me on my carrier where I live, but for someone else a different radio will be better for them. See where I am going with this?

I don't think it'd be a good idea, personally. One of the things I love about these android builds, and the wm roms, is the available choices. (But I also love tinkering with things, so it could just be a personal preference.)

hazard99 said:
Personally I think a specific rom will be useful in trouble shooting.
But personally I cant stand most of the winmo rom's I dont use it very often but Incase something isnt working I need a rom that i can switch to and everything works.
I've tried chucky ive tried miri and both didnt work out. Honestly I am more versed in android than I am in winmo. So when I had problems with data connection Id revert back to energy.
So id have to vote for any energy based rom with working tethering!
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Same for me, Energy roms are the only winmo rom's that I haven't had issues with so I vote for energy based roms.

you guys dont understand, nobody is forcing you to stay with one,
all im sayig is to pick one while the android is in development stage, that way we know that the problems are coming from android and not winmo build since we use same build, or how about 3 builds that we can pick and stick to it untill we get android on main memory working, then you can all go back to any winmo build,
if you dont want to participate like i said nobody is forcing you , im simply suggesting this in hopes of speeding up the development since with same build we can actually trace the problems easier than having 30 random problems with different builds that are not even related to android.
so far i ve seen alot of chunky roms and energy roms used with android.
is there another popular roms there so i can list them in the poll

+1 .... Energy barebone for use andriod as an everyday OS radio 2.12.50
Sent from my FroyoStone V.1using xda app

This could be problematic when you consider that the ROMS being developed on are made for different phones, different version of WinMo, and different carriers. Each variation has the potential to change the quality of the outcome.
How about this instead. The cook develops the A-ROM on whatever W-ROM meets the cooks requirements and releases it. The cooks part is done. People can either use it or wait until a test group tests it against a base W-ROM.
For those who want testing before using an A-ROM, then a stripped down base W-ROM can be developed in minimal variations (device, OS, carrier) for the end users to test against.
This way cooks get what they want, bleeding edge users get what they want and those less willing to chance a balky phone get what they want.
I'm all for standardizing, but trying to limit a cooks options is not the way to go. In fact, it totally defeats the whole purpose of what they are doing.

some input from developers would be of great help. since they know more about the workings of the systems.
im just assuming that this might help.
if it would great im willing to use a single rom for all my andro builds since i dont ever go back there( like dos)
a good example would be battery life.
im running the new Nexus One Android 2.2 Build FRG33
and today my battery went down by only 1/4th all day in standby,
then another user reports that his battery leaks out like water.

After months of "improving" my HD2 with custom roms.

Let me give you some background information. 2 years ago I was taken in by the beauty of the Sony Ericsson Xperia x1i.
Now while this phone looked amazing the interface was really bad and I was forever getting frustated.
Then I discovered this site and Then it happened! I became a flashing addict!.
I loved Itjes Touch it series with manilla and windows mobile 6.5/.5 builds which made the phone alot more usable.
So April came round and I was due an upgrade and I heard alot of buzzing about the HTC HD2 and after watching lots of videos and reviews I knew this is what I needed.
Now the unit I got was an 02 branded unit and it worked excellent but I knew it would be a matter of time before my addiction takes over and before I knew it I was flashing a diffrent rom everyday.
But I have found there to be so many bugs and problems with the custom roms that last week I decided to return to the stock o2 rom and I have to say the phone now just works! no problems, no lag during streaming, no glitches.
So I think I am done with the flashing random roms thing now.
Anyone else returned to the stock roms after feeling disatisfyied by customer roms?

Never tried flashing yet, I am on stock 1.66.707.1 ROM

I too had Sony Ericsson Xperia x1i and like you decided to flash it. I really didn't like the custom UI so decided to revert back to the stock ROM. But - on account of me being a complete noob - I somehow managed to brick the phone!
So I claimed, and got the HD2.
So far I’ve not flashed any custom ROMs as I don't really want to run the risk of destroying my beloved HD2 and I’m actually happy with the stock ROM (1.72.206.3) and using CHT I just customise everything else - pretty much on a daily basis!
Very tempted to flash it with android when it's fully ready, but I guess only time will tell if that happens.

there arent problems...but i dont wanna brick my hd2 because of "i wanna have the newest thing" blablaaa
maybe i'll flash android, but as long as my stock 1.48 wm rom is working, im pretty happy...thanks to cookie
DN41

The energy rom on my phone runs 100% smoother with 10,000% less glitches and lockups than the stock Tmous one did

I know everyones opinions are diffrent which is fair enough. But for me I have found the stock roms to be the best and most reliable.
Not taking anything away from our chefs as I know they do an excellent job but Custom roms are not for everyone.
I think I just want a phone that just works and does not need to be constantly tweeked for it to do some of the simpletest tasks.

yea after years of flashing i no longer use custom roms, I do however use tweeks to get it how i want it, no rom is perfect for everyone. I just got fed up of all the different roms that promised loads and where no better than stock imho.

I've flashed so many times I don't set up my quicklinks anymore. I just have grey squares showing and in a couple days I'll reinstall a new set of grey squares aka flash a new rom. My G2 arrives on the 5th.

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I've flashed so many times I don't set up my quicklinks anymore. I just have grey squares showing and in a couple days I'll reinstall a new set of grey squares aka flash a new rom. My G2 arrives on the 5th.
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See this is how i was too at first.. the Tmous rom was more unstable than the worst rom on here.. i had to pull the battery on my wifes and my phone at LEAST daily the first week we had them.. Chasing that dragon and trying every new flash the second it comes out might not be the way to go as far as stability. but i DO know Tmous stock rom was garbage.
So maybe your O2 stock rom is just a more stable rom off the shelf than ours was.. in which case youll understand why it is hard to relate.

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See this is how i was too at first.. the Tmous rom was more unstable than the worst rom on here.. i had to pull the battery on my wifes and my phone at LEAST daily the first week we had them.. Chasing that dragon and trying every new flash the second it comes out might not be the way to go as far as stability. but i DO know Tmous stock rom was garbage.
So maybe your O2 stock rom is just a more stable rom off the shelf than ours was.. in which case youll understand why it is hard to relate.
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Thats a very fair statement, I have no experiance of what the TMOUS rom is like so am not able to speak of all types on stock roms.
But as far as the O2 rom goes its just boot screen and a wallpaper otherwise it is the generic 1.72 rom and mius the wifi router which I have installed anyway.
I agree with the above post where alot of chefs make promises for vast speed improvement etc where really its just the same as any other rom.

Ive read that the O2 roms are pretty bad.........
I was stock for a good 6 or 7 months until I flashed an energy rom, the only reason I flashed was to see what all the fuss was about........
The first t mobile rom that came with the phone (1.66 i think) was stable however there was no youtube client, installing any of the youtube clients available always led to me losing the ability to use media players and the htc video player, apart from that the rom was ok........
The next official t mobile rom (1.72) was absolutely fine, i never experienced a problem. Like I said, I got fed of reading about how great custom roms were and decided to see what all the fuss was about.....
I even got an arsey comment from someone on here about how I must be "the only person on here still using a stock rom" lol
I flashed the energy rom thats in my sig and have stuck with it to this day because it "just works" its faster than the stock, has no bloatware and nice extras like shake2save rotate screen etc... the downside is the battery life....
That said, If I had to go back to a stock rom i really wouldnt be that bothered... I guess I was lucky that the tmo uk one was a good one though...

See My Siggy
I have tried various roms including the stock rom that came with my phone....
The stock rom SUCKS.
Energy was good; Chucky was good for android but minimal (not complaining).
Current rom is better than stock and great for Android....
Stock Roms are buggy too, just after awhile; slow respone and lagging becomes "acceptable". I had a MotoRokr E8 for a year! I know what slow and unresponsive means......
The Chefs here often exceed the stock rom's abilities and functionality....
KUDOS TO THE CHEFS.

running the stock t-mobile us rom here on a 3 week old phone and absolutely no issues other than THIRD PARTY apps not exiting correctly but that was resolved with a restart of the deice and the apps have been good since

you can try Duttys ROMs if you haven' yet. The best for me. No Bloatware, close to stock, extremely fast and stable and as always, Android friendly.

I had a few problems with the original Tmo us rom but nothing bad enough to make me leave it. The upgraded version while still buggy is much better. Again, I have no desire to leave it though. When the next iteration of this phone hits perhaps I'll switch But without tethering WM7 is out of the question until it gets put in.

The stock and latest TMobile ROM for the HD2 runs very well.
I did not want to change it after doing all the registry tweaks and 3D Drivers, etc.
Then Android came and I had to make a move.
I tried several custom ROMs, and you are right, they all were not me.
Some had stuff I did not like, and in my opinion, were not better than stock.
Until I found the ENERGY ROM in my signature.
It still needs a few registry tweaks and LEOCPU, but once is set, it is the best ROM I ever had.
I think is perfect.
Very organized, clean, beautifull and fast.
It has the latest drivers from the HTC Oboe, the new WM6.5 Devise to be released now in October 2010 in China.
Lots of improvements over stock ROM. In communications, system upgrades, software, etc.
Including the most recent release of Sence for Windows Mobile, version 2018.
So yes, there are better than stock ROMS out there.
The last update for the HD2 was on May 2010.
NRGZ28 has incorporated updates in his latest Energy ROM, that are 4 to 5 months newer.

I've always liked stock roms. I ran the stock TMOUS TP2 WM 6.1 ROM forever, since I heard the 6.5 ROMs ate all the memory. I'm currently still running the 2.13 stock rom on my TMOUS HD2, but I'm considering the leaked pie rom.

Well, I am running 1.66 Stock ROM, CHT 1.61 and had no single freeze the last 6 months, my HD2 softresetted once a week after SPB Backup or after a flight.
I applied almost all reg tweaks posted in tips&tricks, use BsB and thats fine for me.
What prevented me from flashing custom ROMs was that I ALWAYS read carefully the comments of the users flashing it. And there is no single custom ROM where it reads ONLY: runs flawless.
So this is mostly not the fault of the cook though but the fact that we have to deal with so many languages and providers that prevent a cooked ROM from running flawlessly in any language and provider environment.
Of course the cooks program their ROMS in their native lang and with the preliminaries of their provider so this is why their ROMS simply cant work flawlessly on EVERY HD2 in this world.
Maybe this is why the upcoming WP7 is so restrictive in hard- and software to guarantee a smooth function in every country with every provider (in case it WILL run smooth )

enyaj said:
you can try Duttys ROMs if you haven' yet. The best for me. No Bloatware, close to stock, extremely fast and stable and as always, Android friendly.
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+1 here for Dutty's ROMs. Fantastic, close to stock, yet running latest Sense etc. Have been great for me and no need to keep updating - I just update on major changes and I'm well happy with it.

I'm the opposite had my hd2 from vodafone with just about the worst ROM that could have been provided constantly crashing and generally rendered my phone unusable so fed up with waiting for vodafone to release an update i flashed a custom rom and ain't looked back i was using energy's rom but for the last week I've been using elegancia rom without HTC messaging and I'm amazed how good it is also using darkstone Android and no issues with either makes my phone awesome

[Q] Best WP7 Rom for HD2???

Hi guys there's been a lot of movement in WP7 development for the HD2, I just wonder which is the best WP7 rom, that you guys have tried.
Thanks for your feedback.

I tried some custom ROMs. My favorite is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078. really a top Rom, fast, no bugs found, and all were detected sd cards

It's honestly tiring reading these posts, why don't you just simply try out each rom and judge for yourself which is the best for you?
I'm not bagging on you but is it too much trouble to use 2-3 minute to flash a new rom? Find one out there that you think suits you the best because everybody has a personal preference.

Sorry bazinga I just think that it takes 2-3 minutes plus a little more time to really evaluate the features of a rom, you know, battery drainage, wi-fi, among others, that’s why I’m asking to the people of this awesome forum to help me with their experiences. That's all.

peavy00 said:
Sorry bazinga I just think that it takes 2-3 minutes plus a little more time to really evaluate the features of a rom, you know, battery drainage, wi-fi, among others, that’s why I’m asking to the people of this awesome forum to help me with their experiences. That's all.
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Oh in that case, I personally use Football's WP7 Rom.
With the battery registry tweak and using the 2.12 radio (on the TMOUS HD2), I've been getting pretty decent battery life, somewhere around ~60% after moderate use over 12 hours. The Wi-fi works flawless as it can connect to both secure and open networks. Phone and SMS works as usual and the zune integration is such a nice feature. Get an activation from M$ to start using all live features.
I haven't switched to other roms, although at least 4 have popped up this week, because there simply isn't a way to backup/restore SMS and other apps after flashing a rom. For you, you should check out the other ones but for now, I'll stick to Football's rom. No problems for me

I've tried a couple roms, but to be honest, they're all pretty much the same. There's not much to be changed in wp7 yet, and all the custom roms have the same tweaks and fixes done to them. The only one that seems a little different is XBoxmod's rom, as he does some changes to the icons, so I've been sticking with his rom because he seems to know more about the inner workings and tweaks for wp7. He also has a stock version available.
I don't really see the point of all these other people releasing roms that are no different from roms already out except maybe having a different lock screen.... but hopefully as things are learned, the different roms will become more customized.

zarathustrax said:
I've tried a couple roms, but to be honest, they're all pretty much the same. There's not much to be changed in wp7 yet, and all the custom roms have the same tweaks and fixes done to them. The only one that seems a little different is XBoxmod's rom, as he does some changes to the icons, so I've been sticking with his rom because he seems to know more about the inner workings and tweaks for wp7. He also has a stock version available.
I don't really see the point of all these other people releasing roms that are no different from roms already out except maybe having a different lock screen.... but hopefully as things are learned, the different roms will become more customized.
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i agree

Thank you so much guys for your fast and useful response, now I have a clearer view about the WP7 roms for the HD2.
Thanks again .

I've tried quite a few and currently running one (HD7 T3982 or something) which is pretty good, the builtin jailbreak helps as Chevron no longer works on the cpotulla nand...having said that, the original is much faster and to my eyes, has supoerior colours, might be first love syndrome.-)

peavy00 said:
Hi guys there's been a lot of movement in WP7 development for the HD2, I just wonder which is the best WP7 rom, that you guys have tried.
Thanks for your feedback.
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The best rom ive used so far is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991047
very stable and fast too

Hey I wonder why not many are liking Elminster's BlackSideSeven .. Great Rom .. no bugs .. i havent found one in more than a month's use .. i am using *.7004 version not the *.7008 spoof one..
Regards
Vibhu

Ok, Which one is the best rom in 2012 so far?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=977 look here and first 4 topics.... this is most used ROM's in moment.... differences between is small... only problem can be in incompatibility of sdcard's