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Hey guys,
I have had my Nexus for a little more than a week. I am loving this thing. I don't know how I have survived without it. I came from the darkside(BlackBerry).
Anyway, I have a few questions I need help with. I have searched and looked around and tried various things which I will detail in whats to come.
ROM: CyanogenMod 5.0.6
Recovery: RA-nexus-v1.7.0-cyan
Radio: 4.04.00.03_2
Kernal: 2.6.33.3 Pershoot OC - UV
Build: EPE54B
Theme: Nextheme
First:
I have been having issues sending/receiving MMS. I have my APN settings setup for TMO USA. I searched and found a few different ways to configure it, but all of them were to no avail. I use Handcent for messaging. Sometimes I can receive MMS and send them just fine, and other times I can not. Sometimes when I receive them it automatically downloads them like one would think it should, and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes when I click the "download" option it downloads and works, and sometimes it simply does not. I have called TMO and HTC and never really seemed to get anywhere with it other than following their directions. Is their anything else anyone might be able to think of, other than wiping and starting from scratch?
The other things on this first subject is a little less of a mess, and not such a deal. How can I send a MMS with a picture AND audio. I could do it on my Blackberry, and I can even receive MMS with Pic/Aud on my Nexus, but how the heck do I send a MMS with both at the same time? I am sure their has to be a way and im just not using my head here...
Second thing:
I'll start by saying...Battery life. LOL
I have been playing with different kernals thinking maybe sooner or later i'll strike the gold one and find one that I want to keep. My phone is getting like 7ish hours of light to moderate usage before it starts dropping below 10% or so. I don't know if it is just me, but I really expected a LITTLE more. I have the OC and UV kernal as described above. I have Setcpu setup to adjust cpu speed according to battery life. I tried the 'ole go into recovery and clear cache's and battery stats and charge for 30min or so after the "green light" on phone trick, and that seemed to help me get maybe 30min or so more of use, but nothing drastic. I also found a thread on here about battery life and playing with the *#*#4636#*#* and the different network options trick. That has not really seemed to do anything either. Does anyone know of any way to isolate this issue? I use Advanced Task Killer, and have it setup to kill the crap every hour. I have noticed when I turn phone on ATK says I have ~200ish mb free of memory, and when phone starts to die I have around 120mb free.
While I am on battery life issue, the next issue I have possibly ties in with it. I am using HelixLauncher2 and think it may be the culprit...After 12ish hours or so the phone gets super slow, and unresponsive and the HL2 FC's some. The phone is practically unusable until I do a reboot. Would this have something to do with the Kernal? Any suggestions here guys?
Well if you managed to read this whole fiasco, thanks!
If their is any tips or advice you guys could give, it would be very much so appreciated. I love the phone to death, but the battery life, MMS issue/s, and slow/unresponsive issues have to go be straightened out and it will the best phone in the world(to/for me) lol. I think most/part of my issues are the kernal and the HL2, but I really am not sure. I am new the the Android scene, but am trying to learn quick, fast and in a hurry. I rooted the 2nd day I had the device haha
Thanks again,
Blaine
Any takers? Please? Is really appreciate it.
I don't experience any of the issues you do, where are you located? Is there another T mobile Sim you can use to see if there is something wrong on the end? Do you think there is a possible hardware fault? Had you used the phone stock for a month or so before you rooted?
Its sad to say, but from what you're explaining, as I have the same setup as you, it could definitely be a hardware issue
All things considered based on your post were I you I would reflash first. I would consider using the kangorama rom which already has all the core stuff you listed built in and working correctly. Wipe everything before hand.
Once I did that I would only add the crucial apps and see if anything is whacked. Chances are the core apps like handcent that people commonly use and you will be using frequently should be fine. Only after I knew that was ok would I start adding in the rest of the apps. I would add them in a few at a time and keep an eye on the battery. Consider ditching atk and trying system panel. It gives you a lot more tools for finding offenders. This is really the use of app killers, dealing with runaway apps. They can also be handy for stopping bat killers that are not runaways. By this I mean an app like trapster. It needs to run in the background to work properly but uses a lot of battery. In order to kill it when I am done with it I have to switch to it and drill a menu. With system panel I just hit one button to close all running apps that I have not exluded. At any rate killing apps willy nilly is not going to solve your problem and works against the memory management scheme which is pretty solid.
Once you have a solid core to work with you can start looking at the little things like how often you are getting weather updates, stock updates, email, etc. A high frequency with these things can use a fair bit of extra battery and if you dont need email (for instance) every 15 minutes you lose nothing when one hour is adequate. There are tons of battery threads with tips and this is only one example.
blaine07 said:
Second thing:
I'll start by saying...Battery life. LOL
I have been playing with different kernals thinking maybe sooner or later i'll strike the gold one and find one that I want to keep. My phone is getting like 7ish hours of light to moderate usage before it starts dropping below 10% or so. I don't know if it is just me, but I really expected a LITTLE more.
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Regarding your battery life, assuming you glanced over the sticky guide in this forum, you should kinda expect about 8 hours of bat. life with moderate use. This thing has a badass snapdragon + 3D chip + awesome screen.. Battery tech hasn't really been keeping up with the consumption and power of PDAs.
It's not N1's fault, google mentioned on the conference that about 8-10 hour day is what you get from these devices.
The times of week-lasting batteries are gone with black-n-white brick nokias.
Thanks for all the help guys. I have probably 120ish applications installed. I only had/used the N1 for 2 days before rooting and "going all out" lol. There are many things for me to try. Is System Panel an application, or built into settings? I suppose the 8-10 hours thing is probably abour right, it is a pretty badass phone. LOL I guess I am going to have to consider a extra battery/cradle though. I wonder if they make something for auto that is a cradle/spare battery charger..hmm lol I am just so befuddled, I know with time one of two things will happen though. One being I just get used to it and deal with it, or two software/os/ firmware and kernals just keep getting better until issues really are oleviated haha.
Thanks again guys! If anyone else has anything they would like to throw out, I am still all ears. I am new to this forum, but appears to be a great bunch of guys here, so I hope to become a active useful contributing member to the forum!
Thanks!
The super horrible battery life is probably you playing with your new toy a crap ton once you stop playing with all the candy and pick out the gems it will improve
Yeah, I am sure their is probably a ton of crap I will probably end up getting rid of..It all seem so intriguing coming from a Blackberry that you can't do anything terribly exciting with, to this which has an application for ANYTHING and everything you could ever want to do..I am blown away by the amount/kind of applications for this thing. WiTether being one of them..My mind is blown by the customizationability(is that a word?) of this thing. I love Blackberrys, and sorry but NOTHING touches their email handling, but this thing...Its just so dang much fun to own!
Really though, the one thing no one touched on was my question about MMS and how to send one with a picture & ring tone attached. If I could do it on my DingleBerry, there has to be a way on N1. How does one do that with the trusty 'ole N1 here?
Thanks!
Blaine
hello
i just got a mytouch 4g yesterday(traded my vibrant for it)
anyway i read on android central a good way to improve battery life is to,
flash ice glacier and a custom kernel,idk if this is a rumor or what but if not i already have ice glacier un themed 1.1.2
but im having trouble finding a kernel post
Kernels are posted in development section, currently there's only one.
You need to get SetCPU from the market to take advantage of over/underclocking to see any difference as, by default, kernels is acting just like stock.
What's best for the battery? Turn off your phone completely, you can go for couple of years on a single charge
But really, it all depends how hard you push your system. Start out with 245/368 powersave with screen off, 345/768 on demand with screen on and see if you can live with it (i.e. no lag). If that doesn't work - up it by a little bit and see the difference. It's a trial and error game as everybody's chips are different in how they can handle overclocking. My set-up is 245/368 on demand with screen off, 768/1607 on demand with screen on, 368/768 if battery is under 20%. Works for me, I can make my battery last at least 14-16 hours with this set-up, YMMV depending on how you use your system.
Kernel thread.
Best battery? Battery life is all relative. Every single person will experience different battery life. The apps you have installed, the amount of time you spend on it and the time you spend on/in each app, distance from cell towers, distance from Wi-Fi sources, settings you have for every app and things like sync and what not.
There is no single variable that will ever help any of us find out what the best battery life is.
All the settings in the world won't help you achieve the 2 days I'm getting because I use mine differently that you, I have different apps on mine that you, I am at different distances from cell and Wi-Fi towers/antennas than you.
The best battery life is what you get out of yours.
Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
SCREENSHOT 2: This is CM7 Nightly build 27# with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel and although i didnt use the screen once of charge for a few minutes as you can see once the screen was off battery life barely decreased and was over a long period of time.
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
I'm actually looking forward to reading your results.
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Yep, this would actually be pretty useful. Good luck and good work!
i'm a sucker for these types of tests, always love doing them and seeing the results. post soon!
I like others will be keeping an interested eye on your findings.
Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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I'm interested too.
Can u try modaco r10 with Netarchy 1.2.1 kernel.
bratfink said:
Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
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I'd be interested in seeing CM7, just whatever nightly build you manage to catch.
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
gogol said:
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
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Unfortunately that will not give you how well the rom does while it is idle.
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
Fuse8499 said:
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
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What were you using before that you consider this phone to have bad battery life? By far this phone has the best battery life of any Android device I've owned. If you want bad battery life, get an Evo. That is horrific battery life.
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Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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Uploaded to OP
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I am looking forward to the rest of these, however just a quick question. What was your battery use like in that situation with the stock ROM? Just for reference, because I'm thinking I might switch to modaco soon. Thanks!
More soon
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
Interesting find
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
bratfink said:
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
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This kinda enforces the point that SetCPU is useless for the NS unless you really want to overclock...
Any battery saving tactics used buy lowering screen off profiles are counteracted by the system process;( So i think in the context of battery life you are probably better to not use SetCPU
JD
bratfink said:
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
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I would definitely move to a video loop or some other 'heavy use' task because when you think about it, not too much can really be changed when almost no power is being used in the first place.
You could also just mention your general feeling for the battery life of each rom, because quite often that is what I go by as my usage varies depending on a range of things (school day or weekend etc) .
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Could you please test modaco r10 with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel ?
I would love to see the difference between modaco's default kernel vs netarchy's kernel.
On CM nightly 13, I just went 11 hours and I'm at 90%. That's 1/2% an hour. Not bad. That is with stock kernel.
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Disclaimer
I am not responsible for any damage to your phone and/or any consequences from your phone being bricked, exploding in your face etc etc etc... You are expected to read the full description and use your brains to process this information, before even touching your phone. Assumed is that you know how to flash using CWM.
Whining that you disagree to remove bloat is not appreciated; If you want to keep your phone bloated for whatever reason, you are at the wrong thread. Feedback should be substantiated and reproducible, not a ventilation of your bottom.
Context
The intention of this thread is to set an approach how to minimize the battery consumption when you are NOT using your device, e.g. when you are at work, sleeping, at some place that does not allow you to recharge, etc. This guide explains how to thoroughly remove stuff that you probably do not need, something that certainly will not affect your battery life in a negative way. The approach is based on the ROMCleaner script, which was extended a bit. Whether it is necessary to remove all the stuff as described, is debatable - nevertheless it is an approach that works for me, otherwise I would not be posting it.
Because a lot of people replied with phrases like "this is bullsh*t", let me state the following: This approach is in no way a guarantee that you will actually achieve battery life longer than 2 seconds after a full recharge. Neither is it a part of the bible, it is merely the approach I followed to prolong the battery life of my device - which I like to share with you. If you are still hating, wonder yourself: "What have I contributed lately?". In any case, at least try it out yourself before drawing your conclusion beforehand and polluting this thread.
The second discussion point is whether the battery should last longer than 1 day. According to many, you are not using your device properly if you would like this to be the case. My answer is simple: If you have no such desire, move along. If you do, like I do, this topic might be of some worth to you.
Furthermore, I honestly do not understand statements like '2-3-4-5 days is impossible' on one battery charge. If you are convinced that Jesus will return again, please do so, but give other people the space to actually find out whether it is the case for themselves.
Some Introduction...
Have you been annoying your ass of because your battery is drained within a day, without even using the phone while at work? I certainly have. Coming from a SGS1, which used to serve me at least 3 days on one charge, I got instant diarrhea from the battery life of the stock SGS3 firmware.
Then I downloaded a ROM, stripped everything unneeded and more and finally got a battery life of approx 3 - 4 days. However, because I had ripped a ROM apart, which was a manual operation, updating became quite time-intensive. Therefore I also did not update, until the recent JB leaks. So this time I though: Lets make a script to do it for me, in order to make updates possible in an easy way. Then I only have to run the clean-script after an update.
After some testing, I am finally satisfied with my device again - Check out the screenshots. The results are achieved while having wifi constantly on, using google sync and whatsapp. The screenshots are based on Wanamlite XXDLI7; The first shows the battery usage during a night, the second during a day of light phone usage. I will post another screenshot when the battery is drained completely.
What to expect and trade-offs
After completing this procedure you can expect significant increase of battery life when the phone is idle. If you are using the phone actively all day long, then this approach might not be of much worth to you. People who do not have time to play with the phone all day, e.g. because they work during the day, will probably find this most useful. The cleaning of your rom will remove about 70% of the apps/widgets that come by default, therefore it is wise to check whether you will not lose apps/widgets that are valuable to you. You are still free to modify the "script" according to your need/desire.
So what do we need?
A DEODEXED Stock-based ROM, I prefer wanamlite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705866
ROMCleaner - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827817
The attached ROMCleaner_user.txt will sustain default samsung browser, calendar, email and messaging. (untested)
The attached ROMCleaner_user_jb-apps.txt expects you to replace the JellyBean apps discussed next. Beware that the stock browser, calendar and email are not tested by me and could drain your battery faster.
Because I had some issues that ROMCleaner would not read the ROMCleaner_user.txt, I had to integrate the file into the ROMCleaner package. To do this, you can download the ROMCleaner package and replace META-INF\com\google\android\romcleaner\ROMCleaner.txt in the zip by the file you just downloaded.
Packages to restore some stuff ^^
If you have chosen for the JellyBean apps package (jbapps-avdaga.zip) you will get:
JellyBean browser + calendar ripped from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797109
Inverted JellyBean apps: email and messaging ripped from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780559
In case you want Samsung Apps store for free fancy games, get it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861409
Got the packages, whats next?
Put all files on your phone, reboot to CWM.
Make a backup of your current system, smart monkey.
Flash the JellyBean ROM of your prefrence if you have not already. (If you come from ICS, wiping your data guarantees best results).
"Flash" the ROMCleaner script, either by using ROMCleaner_user.txt approach, or integrating the file.
If necessary, flash the provided JellyBeans apps package and Samsung Apps package.
Reboot and enjoy your awesome battery.
Thanks to
Wanam for his awesome ROM.
Patrics83 and others for ROMCleaner.
Temasek and CyanogenMod team for proper Android apps.
All others I forgot.
Interesting Posts
flypubec said:
@OP: Your post is missleading. Removed bloatware has nothing to do with the battery life.
After intensive research I came to the conclusion that there are only 2 major issues for the battery drain on vanilla stock ROM (JB DLI8).
Those are:
1) Samsung push service : SOLUTION -> simply unstall it, bacause you don't need it anyway (e.g. via Titanium backup).
2) Wrong fast dormancy setting : SOLUTION -> use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gokhanmoral.fastdormancytoggle.i9300&hl=sl from gokhanmoral to toggle it to the setting supported by your carier. BE careful not to toggly it exactly the oposite.
With these 2 mods on stock DLI8 I get less than 0.5% battery drain while idle over an hour.(Mail sync set to every 30 mins)
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>> If you like to keep all samsung stuff, this indeed is probably a better approach.
manemzjum said:
Charging your phone and putting it in airplane mode for 23 hrs your fooling no-one
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>> In the screenshot you can see the mobile network signal.
Nice!
I've been on Stock-rooted since I got the device. I'm definitely going to try this out.
I use my phone plenty, doubt I'd be able to get 5 days out of it, but we'll see.
Is it better than just freezing all the unwanted apps?
eggman89 said:
Is it better than just freezing all the unwanted apps?
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Cannot promise that, but you can compare the list of removed apps in ROMCleaner.txt
Will it work with a LH1 (BTU)- stock rom? (Rooted, of course)
Thanks!
According to the images, the screen was off 99% of the time, am I missing something?
DorEzo said:
Will it work with a LH1 (BTU)- stock rom? (Rooted, of course)
Thanks!
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It should, make a backup and try for yourself. Do take into consideration that you might need the default ICS apps or simply use the ROMCleaner_user.txt, not the JB one.
yellowbiz said:
According to the images, the screen was off 99% of the time, am I missing something?
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The first image is supposed to show how it performs when idle, the second is after a day of usage. Primarily used it for some messaging and calls though, however the main point is that the battery is not drained when not using the phone. When I used a stock rom the battery was depleted for 50% after half a day without me even touching the device :-\
Of course if you use the phone normally the battery will be depleted in 3-4 days, like i mentioned in the intro.
I know how to get years of battery life, charge your phone to 100%, take the battery out for at least 2 years, and it should have some life left in it, you must make sure you don't put the battery in for at least 2 years.
What are you guys whining about..if it can improve your battery life and remove the apps that you dont need, why not? You should be thankfull that people put their work in such things in their free time.
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henrybravo said:
Yay, let's remove a bunch of features from the phone so that when you're not using it at all, you can get 5 days of battery life! :silly: Your claim of "normal" usage equaling 3-4 days is pretty unrealistic. Battery usage is subjective with thousands of variables, which makes lofty claims of battery life completely pointless.
Nearly all of your battery life improvements are just doing step #1.
You're using a rooted and tweaked stock ROM with a tweaked kernel. Just by doing this, you're going to get much better battery life versus stock ROM. Nothing new to see here. Removing what little other "bloat" that Wanam left in the ROM by removing a bunch of apk's (that don't run anyway unless you launch them) and replacing a few ICS apps with JB versions will only offer a very small improvement.
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Please install any stock-based ROM and check the services that are running in the background - without you even know you had them. There is a lot of garbage coming in all stock-based roms, and I really do not understand the problem of removing stuff you do not use; Morever, I think this is something people should do in all apsects of life; that is removing sh*t you do not use.
I conclude your assertions are based on thin air, as you did not even take the time to test this approach. I have spent quite some time testing stuff out and posting my observations here - so please do not post if you have nothing constructive or reproducible to say.
Last thing: I do not replace ICS apps with JB, this stuff was tested on a JB rom - but you knew already because you read the full post
so basically you debloat a stock deodexed Rom? Any other changes I'm missing?
slaphead20 said:
so basically you debloat a stock deodexed Rom? Any other changes I'm missing?
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Besides changing some samsung apps for CM10 ones, that is it indeed. Though the debloating is more thorough than proposed by others.
Ok, thanks,, just wanted to know exactly what the script did, prefer my own debloating and tweaking, but good for newcomers.
there are also people that are not normal and want to use their phones on trips or in situations when they have no charging opportunities
@OP: Your post is missleading. Removed bloatware has nothing to do with the battery life.
After intensive research I came to the conclusion that there are only 2 major issues for the battery drain on vanilla stock ROM (JB DLI8).
Those are:
1) Samsung push service : SOLUTION -> simply unstall it, bacause you don't need it anyway (e.g. via Titanium backup).
2) Wrong fast dormancy setting : SOLUTION -> use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gokhanmoral.fastdormancytoggle.i9300&hl=sl from gokhanmoral to toggle it to the setting supported by your carier. BE careful not to toggly it exactly the oposite.
With these 2 mods on stock DLI8 I get less than 0.5% battery drain while idle over an hour.(Mail sync set to every 30 mins)
Does this work on the omega rom by any chance. i only need at least a full day worth or battery
Iffay said:
Does this work on the omega rom by any chance. i only need at least a full day worth or battery
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It should work on any stock-based rom, also omega.
My thoughts...really.
I don't wanna sound rude, yet i had to agree with some when they say "buy a Nokia (old one of course" or just "disconnet for one or two years".
It's virtually impossible with the kind of gadgets we have these days any battery last more than 1 day.
I've made my own mods and roms from scratch in recent past for X10, so u may consider at least that i known what i'm talking about.
The only way, no mather witch brand you like or believe its the best, is by f#@king your screen. Period. That is the main reason why every phone just last 1 day with "normal" use.
If you've payed attention i've used "normal" expression witch means phone, mail, sync and didn't wrote "heavy use" that will include music, YouTube, videos, etc.
Like i said. I've made my own work in the past and still do some minor (?) changes and i must say this: i'm glad if my phone last one working day from 7AM till 23PM. Yes! Working day, that's why i dont't develop anything.
If you or anyone else state that your/his phone had better battery life than this i make two considerations:
1. You're (not you in particular) a liar, or;
2. You simply don't use your phone as you can.
If you dont consider that you belong at the first consideration than..."buy a Nokia..."
Another thought:
You just bought this (or similar) phone for a status matter or money it's something that's really cheap for you (another 2nd choice).
Like i said...just my 2 cents.
Cheers
R.
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No way you have devised a way for your phone not to use battery while not using it
What's your next project you gonna design a wireless device that can change my tv station using infer red lasers
Oh wait both of these already exist
Charging your phone and putting it in airplane mode for 23 hrs your fooling no-one
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Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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There is really nothing one size fits all kind of thing. Try these different ROMs for yourself to see what works best for you. It's hard to see which has better battery life since different users will have different usage stats.
I have to agree... One person might get great battery on RR and terrible on AICP, the next person the opposite. The only to really tell which one gets the best battery in your situation is to try them.
Data is too scattered to determine which ROM provides the best battery life. You see people getting all day battery life with different kernels, tweaks, usage, etc
yk1999 said:
Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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I'm not trying to bash your post but TBH, any comparison you make from others is practically useless. As mentioned, people have different experiences on custom ROMs. One specific ROM might have excellent battery life on one phone and have horrible battery life on another of the same model. But there is an even more important factor that makes comparing across ROMs just as useless... Everyone uses their phone differently. Not just with apps they install, but with the features of a ROM they they decide to enable or not.
On that note, if you are considering a custom ROM, the best way to determine if it is right for you is simply to try them. Make backups that way you can revert back to the one you decide is best.
I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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I understand this. But I think it would be easier to try for yourself, because to get say, me to try say 4 different ROMs, same usage, and then report back to you would be more time consuming than you trying for yourself.
I know you know that every user is different but the same user trying different ROMs for you just doesn't make sense.
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I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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Referencing individual usage as you have, along with any specific ROM across devices, you are not going to get consistent results. I understand you are trying to consolidate this data on one post, but there are to many variables involved.
To highlight: I could run AICP on my XT1575 with a clean install and no extra apps installed and make only calls and I might get excellent battery life on standby. But another XT1575 owner can do the exact same setup, make the same number and times of calls and get horrible battery life. This pretty much goes for any custom ROM, especially those not based on stock. This does not even account for differences in MM vs N. This also does not account for an update to a ROM screwing up battery life and the next one may fix it (which is relatively common). I've even seen where someone gets great battery life up to a certain update and thereafter it sucks, but another can experience the opposite.
And once again, individual usage still matters as individuals will have different apps installed, which can take up varying amounts of battery depending on background processes and syncing. This affects standby time and SOT to some degree. Also do not forget that the chipset on this phone is prone to negative affects on battery depending on cell signal strength, so that is another kink in observing and comparing battery life across users.
Ultimately, the best way to determine what gives you the best battery life is too rest ROMs for yourself and your specific usages.
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I understand this. But I think it would be easier to try for yourself, because to get say, me to try say 4 different ROMs, same usage, and then report back to you would be more time consuming than you trying for yourself.
I know you know that every user is different but the same user trying different ROMs for you just doesn't make sense.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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Yes ok. So we should be on the same page about different users using their devices differently. So if user A posts about say ROM B, and user B posts about ROM A, you know you can't compare. I would post my stats with RR but you couldn't compare to someone posting AICP stats as we are different users. The only way to be even somewhat accurate would be to get the same user to try different ROMs. Which you can do. Honestly just try the different ROMs! I will say with my experience though DU has not had the greatest battery life.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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Yes ok. So we should be on the same page about different users using their devices differently. So if user A posts about say ROM B, and user B posts about ROM A, you know you can't compare. I would post my stats with RR but you couldn't compare to someone posting AICP stats as we are different users. The only way to be even somewhat accurate would be to get the same user to try different ROMs. Which you can do. Honestly just try the different ROMs! I will say with my experience though DU has not had the greatest battery life.
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Well said!
@yk1999 As stated above as well as in my post, you just can't compare experiences of users across multiple devices and ROMs as there are to many variables involved. We understand what you are asking and we are telling you that there is only one way for you to get the information you are looking for. The only way for you to figure out what will have the best battery life in YOUR situation (how a ROM operates on YOUR specific device, YOUR selection of apps, and YOUR specific usage scenarios) is to test the ROMs for yourself.
Maybe there should be an app saving battery stats for the current ROM (internal storage or personal cloud), and comparing these personal stats with previous stats made when you had another ROM installed.
Of course there are other variables that affect the battery stats (like the apps installed, or the apps you actually open in a battery cycle) but at least the app would be able to list and compare battery stats on the same device and user.
Ie, I imagine a list like:
- ROM R1. Kernel K1. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR1
- ROM R1. Kernel K2. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR2
- ROM R2. Kernel K1. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR3
...
It could be able to group by Android version,...
I haven't found an app doing this. Do you know an app doing it? And, do you think this app would make any sense?