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Using the M3100 with the itech clip S35 Headset
firstly i've been using the fit4cat tweaker which has an A2DP quality improvememt tweak - unfortunately the tweak makes the quality worse so i've tuned it off and the music quality is not too bad when playing through my car stereo. However, I need to try some decent headphnes with the unit because the ones supplied sound very tinny!
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
Thirdly, I have the S35 outputting through my car stereo. When people are calling me they can hear an echo (of themselves speaking as the sound comes out through the car speakers). There is some sort of delay i suppose but this is very annoying. I'm not sure why its happening because when I tried the headset using my Sony Ericsson W800i there was no such echo!
therfore, is the echo problem an A2DP thing (as the w800i does not support it and this works ok) or is it a m3100 thing? To test this I could turn off A2DP and ry the headset again - is this possible?
any suggestions appreciated
I have the Jabra BT620s headphones and I have indentical problems.
After install all works well but as soon as you disconnect media player just plays via the phone speaker
at least you guys get it to work once. WMP never plays through my iPAQ bluetooth headset. AVRCP controls work fine though. TCPMP plays fine through the bluetooth headset as long as I pair it up before I execute TCPMP. This is exactly how it worked with my 8125.
The WMP issue is very strange and is likely yet another example of the lack of QA testing in the A2DP portion of the TyTN's implementation. I would expect that these issues will all be fixed in a subsequent TyTN ROM update.
I'm getting on ok with this
quality is pretty good both using the headset with my own sony ear buds. Vast improvement over the itech supplied ear buds.
A2DP - no skipping during normal playback and it works well - quality is not an issue through the car stereo either - not bad at all . I've even been listening to music over A2DP and running sat nav using a GPS BT receiver. A slight pause in music when GPS connects but then all runs well.
My only 2 gripes are:-
1. When you disconnect or go out of range of the headset, it reconnect perfectly with the phone application. This isn't the case with the wireless stereo. I have to enter BT settings, uncheck the wireless stereo setting, save then recheck the setting before it reconnects. Slightly annoying but accesptable (for now)
2. the echo using the headset through my car stereo. People calling me can hear themselves again (about a 0.5 second delay) through the car speakers! Just to repeat my earlier post, this does not happen with my W800i. not sure if its an A2DP problem or something else.
Similarly here, I don't seem to be able to make A2DP (and the handsfree profile, for that matter) work.
Using HTC and an Itech clip, I am able to pair the "wireless stereo" and then play music for some 10 seconds on the GS Player, after which the Wireless Stereo symbol disappears from the top bar and the connection is interrupted. I actually believe that the Itech clip is 'shut off', as I have to turn it on again.
When I try to reconnect the headset, it just won't work and the whole machine is slowed down. Only a soft reset helps.
I hope this is a ROM problem (and not mine) and it'll be fixed soon...
WMP and the Itech clip work fine for me, with the current German ROM.
a2dp issues w/th Hermes
With the CHT9000 WWE rom I had the wireless stereo drop off after about 1 minute, then I would have to reconnect. I flashed to the other dopod WWE ROM (latest) and the problem is gone....sound is comparable to my prophet. Reg tweaks suggested in other forums definetely make the sound quality worse for either ROM version. I think further updated ROM's will improve A2DP reliability (or someone may find a reg hack)...as with the prophet A2DP it just takes time.
Hi guys, I've got the vario ii and the Sony Ericsson HBH-610.
I can add the headset fine and make calls through it, but I don't know how to get the music in wmp to play through it.
If anyone has a few mins spare and could explain it for me I would be really grateful
Headsets..HBH 610...
With my CHT 9000 I use an OMIZ 5660...works great for calls and wireless stereo. I don't have any other headset to compare it to (since I only have used this brand)....I believe that if your "options" do not list wireless stereo then you can't use the A2DP function on your device, at least as it is designed to be used.
I'm not aware of a one-piece headset that supports A2DP that is available (all should have either 2 headphones or two wired ear plugs)..
THE ONLY WAY, I FIND :
I have a 590A Plantronics Bluetooth HeadSet
You must refresh Services of your iTech or your Plantronics !
Go Parameters, Bluetooth, Select your Headset, Refresh.
Then reselect services and Save !
Each time you lost the link (Bluetooth turn off or ...) you will have to Refresh,reselect and Save !
I am searching for a Solve but not find another !
I forget something else !
It is the same thing with my Bluetooth GPS (GNS).
I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix
I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix
I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix
So far A2DP has worked fine for me with my Nokia HS-12W. I have applied some registry settings and optimised my SD card and so far it has played with hardly a skip. Definitely better than my previous BA with WM5.
daddyo said:
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
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This is the biggest problem for me with my M3100 at the moment. I'm guessing it will only be fixed by an updated\alternative ROM(?!), any ROM's out there I could try that might get round this problem??
Thanks
hutton118 said:
daddyo said:
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
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This is the biggest problem for me with my M3100 at the moment. I'm guessing it will only be fixed by an updated\alternative ROM(?!), any ROM's out there I could try that might get round this problem??
Thanks
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This is probably headset dependent because with my Nokia HS-12W if i need to reconnect i just press the Audio button and it re-establishes the A2DP connection. No going to BT settings at all.
Interesting, can you just confirm what you mean by the Audio button. Is that just hitting 'Play' in WMP?
Thanks
No, the Nokia has a Music key (not Audio, my mistake) which switches from A2DP to the built-in radio. So if i have lost the BT connection pushing the Music key to select the Audio player will re-establish the connection and music is streamed to the headset. You will see the A2DP icon on the today screen when it has connected and get the chime in the headset.
Ok, thanks for that.
Just one last point, if the connection is lost while music is streaming, does the audio switch to the phone speaker instead??
My problem is I'll be listening to music on the subway then or some reason I'll loose the connection (interferance, low battery...whatever) and immediately music starts coming out the speaker, much to my embarrassment!
Thanks again!
i listen to music using the SonyEricsson BT headset, however after about 20 min or so, consistently, music begins to skip.
is this due to buffering problem with WM5? or this is something else all together? does anyone experience the same listening music via BT headset? anyone has a solution?
1. Reduce the bitrate (end up getting bad sound quality)
2. stop doing the other stuff you're doing on the pda at the same time.
viperx said:
1. Reduce the bitrate (end up getting bad sound quality)
2. stop doing the other stuff you're doing on the pda at the same time.
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my bitrate is about 96 which is not that high to begin with. also, i was not doing anything on my PDA while listening to listen. any other option beside lowering the bitrate?
does lower bitrate use less tranmission or something? can you elaborate on this?
Hi,
I am suffering the same effect when I connect my HTC-P6300 (Panda) to my car radio (KB-BT1) via BT.
Have you make any progress on solving this problem?
Thanks
I was wondering if the audio quality and sound stuttering has improved by using BT stereo headphones with Blackstone...
I have a trinity and i still haven't found a setting nor a rom nor a BT stack which handles my samsung headphones with a decent quality and no stuttering...
My cheap nokia 6234 has a solid connection and a good quality sound compared to the trinity... Plus, the A2DP connection slows my device down so much you have to pause if you want to do anything with it...
So if anyone could report about using bluetooth headphones with Blackstone, I would be very grateful as that would help me decide whether to buy or not
Thanks a lot
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Fra
Great
I have the Touch HD for a few days now with the BH S100 HTC bluetooth headset. I have to say that the sound quality is great. It is even better than my conventional mp3 player.
Stable, never lost connection, etc.
Hope this helps.
I tried it today, with my Sony-headset.
It seems to stutter, though, for the five minutes I tested.
I have the Blackstone from seven day and the A2DP is OK with my Sony_Ericsson HBH-DS200.
The sound is very good and the pairing with the phone is immediatly in about 1 second.
Regards
reasonably OK with my Jabra BT620s. However, quality in BT A2DP is not really comparable with wired headsets, and i got some losses when passing nearby EM sources like wifi, etc.etc.
I needed to enhance the quality with Schaps Advanced Config Tool.
Alpine radio
I have an Alpine radio with bluetooth capabilities in my car, and for the first time I have a great connection with my HD. My Touch Diamond stuttered.
Thanks a lot everyone!
I guess it depends by the headset model and interferences then...
I'm still looking for a shop which would make me play with it for a little while...
i have a pioneer deh 700bt and the headunit set up was easier than the nokia n95
streaming music was a bit weird, the quality was very weird, kinda like very low bit rate streaming on mp3s at times, then fine again.
my n95 music used to pause when i took the key out of the ingnition and the stereo turn off
however the HD just keeps playing, but not through the speaker phone....just see it still playing
bit disappointed, and looking for a fix
I've only played for 10 mins, so i'll let you know if i find some more.
I have an Audi A3 from 2005 with a original BT carkit.
Can I use my HD to play some music ?
I can make phonecalls without a problem, if I adjust the volume of my carradio the volume from the HD is also adjusted.
But is there a possibility to play some music ?
Has anyone tried the Plantronics 855 Voyager stereo headset yet?
Also, I'm currently using the Jawbone 1 and noticed horrible interference/noise in the ear piece when the wifi is on, anyone else experience this?
I've never had any problems with the diamond and now with the hd. Like the senior man said, you need to increase the bluetooth bitpool values either in the registry or by using schaps tool. The difference in quality is immense - low values will make high bitrate music sound 64 kbps so you need to change this. Of course, the higher the bitpool the more chance of dropouts but I run at 60 and rarely, if ever have any dropouts.
Sennheiser MM200
Now if tested for almost one day my HD with my new Sennheiser MM 200. Amazing!!! The use of the MP3-Player switched with the use of the remote control to a new level. During sport display can be switched off(no need for touch display-less power consumption (try to give a more compareable info in future)), full control of play/pause/fwd/rwd/volume function. There is no delay of the HD in using the remote nor any transmission interruptings. Now the HD is with armwrest a perfect sport companion. The sound of the earphones - haven't had any better sound (and i've tried a lot of earplugs). Neckstrap fits perfect, mic in perfect position, clear speech and due to perfect noise reduction of the plugs even in noisy areas perfect understanding.
The Sennheiser was just charged the first time - i'll report the stamina.
So far -
I am using the i.Tech S35 bluetooth clip also on my HD now, and sound is very good, with WiFi on. Advantage of the clip is that one can use any headphones with it.
http://dontknowme.at/http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=2&pid=02041
Louis said:
I have an Audi A3 from 2005 with a original BT carkit.
Can I use my HD to play some music ?
I can make phonecalls without a problem, if I adjust the volume of my carradio the volume from the HD is also adjusted.
But is there a possibility to play some music ?
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no ... thats just working with A5
(is trying too much effort?)
Louis said:
I have an Audi A3 from 2005 with a original BT carkit.
Can I use my HD to play some music ?
I can make phonecalls without a problem, if I adjust the volume of my carradio the volume from the HD is also adjusted.
But is there a possibility to play some music ?
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It's not possible to play music, only phone functions are available.
I've tested the HD with the PARROT MK6000 and everything works very fine, also A2DP, Quality is good.Phone Functions great, Phonebook synchronize works perfect
I recently upgraded from a Nokia N95 to a Touch HD. I've been trying to get my Sony DRBT21 bluetooth headphones to work with the touch HD. The phone pairs with the headphones, but the sound quality is poor with no bass and sounds crackly.
Additionally when I turn off/on the headphones, only the headset and microphone profiles connect back to the phone, not the A2DP stereo part. The only way I've found to get it to reconnect is to repair them.
Any idea if this is a known issue with A2DP headphones on the Touch HD? I'm not expecting to get brilliant audio quality, but as it is right now with crackles and distortion it isn't worth listening to.
Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on how I can fix or optimise this?
Cheers
Was the device properly paired? Were you prompted for the PIN? If not, do so manually by going to Bluetooth settings and pair the headset from there.
As for the A2DP not being available when reconnecting, this seems to be a known issue as I experience this intermittently with HTC's own Bluetooth and another third-party one, too. This issue was also observed on my previous HTC Polaris! A workaround for this issue for me is to power off Bluetooth and then power it back on: not a good solution!
It prompted for the PIN which I entered, and looks to be set up correctly. The main issue seems to be the background static when listening to music (hissing and crackling). Is there anything in Advanced config that could be tinkered with to try and alleviate the problem?
This won´t help you:
My Motorola S9 and HT820 (Both A2DP/AVRCP) working fine with HD and Diamond. Also I had some difficulties reconnecting the first times, due to the not used pairing-PIN. The motos doesn´t need it. The HD and the diamond needed some time to accept this
Now they reconnect as Hedset and Stereoheadphons.
Maybe there is another BT-Master (your old phone) active that occupies the A2DP connection with your headset.
I have one HD and S9, sometimes it's a little hard for them to connect but the sound can be very good, the only problem is that with high BitPool values above 30 (medium quality) it's very easy to break the sound when the HD is in our pockets and we are outside the house.
hi, im using the same headphone with you. you got that cracking noise with no bass because it's playing via the headset function, not as stereo headphone.
try disable the heatset option in the bluetooth, then open your music player and try again.
And yes, when u turn off your headset improperly. i.e. turn off from the power button, and not through bluetooth -> disconnect, then turn off... you will have to go to setting -> set as stereo headphone...
I had a play around with Advanced config and found that if I change the max bitpool from 30 to 50, the crackling and static disappears. It seems better now. Many thanks!
Edit: Changed to Max Bitpool 80 and Min 65 and the quality is brilliant. Found some further information from a post on another site (PPCSG) which may be useful to any with a similar issue:
Using ACT (Advance Config Tool), go to BLUETOOTH:
*below are my settings->
-Use Joint Stereo: Yes (default)
-Bitpool: Very High
-Max supported bitpool: 80
-Min support bitpool: 65
-Sample rate: 48000Hz
*My settings may not be the best, therefore you may want to trial and error.
The following shows the named values for the A2DP\Settings key.
By default, A2DP uses a bitpool of 48. A lower bitpool value improves system performance. Increasing bitpool to a higher value causes an overhead on Bluetooth and system resources.
Microsoft suggests the following bitpool values for optimal buffer sizes.
30 - Low audio quality
40 - Medium audio quality
48 - High audio quality
58 - Excellent audio quality
-The maximum reported bit pool value, which can be negotiated with the peer device. Default value is 80.
-The minimum reported bit pool value, which can be negotiated with the peer device. Default value is 14.
-SBC sample rate to use. Default value is 44.1 KHz.
least of your worries...
what bothers Me more is that the old A2DP bug from the HTC Diamond has made its way to the HD ROM, in that if you listen to music via A2DP and recieve a phone call, you take that call and end that call then your music continues playing through the phone speakers! You have no idea how embarassing this is on a train!
that doesnt happen on mine, go straight back to my headphone again...
Even though it doesnt happen on mine, to be safe I plug a dummy headphone jact to the phone so even if bt gets disconnected, no sound goes through decice speakers. Makes me feel comfortable on the train. This was also an issue with Cruise which was addressed by a hotfix later on.
gurluver said:
try disable the heatset option in the bluetooth, then open your music player and try again.
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Tried that, and the difference is staggering!
I can now confirm that it isn't a hardware issue, that these phones (Sony HBH-IS800) are capable of sound quality just as good as other Sony in-ear jobs. Thanks for that!
Now, all I have to do is try to sort out the drop-outs. It seems as though the slightest barrier can cause drop-outs, for instance, putting the phone in my jacket pocket, or passing my jacket sleeve in front of it. Not sure whether it's the particular material of my jacket, or the metal in the buttons, or what, but it's hugely irritating.
Funnily enough, seems to make a difference if I have the connecting wire behind or in front of my neck. More to follow on this one....
Cheers
Pete
noise ?
For people using the HD and motorola S705 as bluetooth A2DP : do you have also an annoying background noise when listening to quiet music ? Or before the sound starts. You know a noise like pffffffffffffffffffffff
HTC P3600
Hello,
I already installed the tornado_a2dp.cab on my PDA HTC P3600 with WM5. but I can't sincronize MP3 (Windows Media Player or TCPMP) with my headphones Nokia BH-206.
Anybody help me to solve this problem?
The mp3 sound only worked (10seconds) in Windows Media Player when I press the button to do a call
Hi.
I have done the changes mentioned in this thread and got much better sound when listening to music.
But i still have a static noise when im in a call.
Is there a way to fix this?
mugis said:
I had a play around with Advanced config and found that if I change the max bitpool from 30 to 50, the crackling and static disappears. It seems better now. Many thanks!
Edit: Changed to Max Bitpool 80 and Min 65 and the quality is brilliant. Found some further information from a post on another site (PPCSG) which may be useful to any with a similar issue:
Using ACT (Advance Config Tool), go to BLUETOOTH:
*below are my settings->
-Use Joint Stereo: Yes (default)
-Bitpool: Very High
-Max supported bitpool: 80
-Min support bitpool: 65
-Sample rate: 48000Hz
*My settings may not be the best, therefore you may want to trial and error.
The following shows the named values for the A2DP\Settings key.
By default, A2DP uses a bitpool of 48. A lower bitpool value improves system performance. Increasing bitpool to a higher value causes an overhead on Bluetooth and system resources.
Microsoft suggests the following bitpool values for optimal buffer sizes.
30 - Low audio quality
40 - Medium audio quality
48 - High audio quality
58 - Excellent audio quality
-The maximum reported bit pool value, which can be negotiated with the peer device. Default value is 80.
-The minimum reported bit pool value, which can be negotiated with the peer device. Default value is 14.
-SBC sample rate to use. Default value is 44.1 KHz.
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I am having the same problem as you on my HTC Incredible. Any idea of an app that lets you configure those settings for Android?
Hi All,
I have a Logitech Pulse audio headset that I have sucessfully paired up with my Kaiser and am playing music through it using S2P. Unfortunately, every so often the playback will drop out for a second or so, and then come back on. Apparently this is a trait with all things bluetooth, and I would have left it at that, but I think I know why the dropouts are happening.
I'll be listening to my music as per usual, and then there will be noticable audio glitches which will get worse and worse until the audio completely drops out for a second. What this means to me is that the bluetooth reciever in my headphones or the bluetooth transceiever in my phone is sort of "falling behind" in the transmission. To put it into more comprehendable terms, my headset is expecting to recieve, say, 100kb/sec in bluetooth audio, but my phone is only capable of sending 98kb/sec. That 2kb that is being lost every second is what makes the audio glitches get worse and worse until it drops for a second, and "catches up" before lagging behind again later on and so on and so forth.
What I'm wanting to know is, is there some way of forcing the bluetooth on my phone to only send a certain amount of data when in A2DP mode for audio? I really think that if I could somehow limit the data transmission on the phone, it would decrease these dropouts.