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PocketPlayer 3.2 & bluetooth stereo

hi all,
can anyone tell me how best to change the settings in PocketPlayer to allow me to use it with bluetooth headphones. At the moment the sound pauses every few seconds and the player itself is unresponsive most of the time, also if i press any button the music stutters, basically its unusable.
so far i have done the following;
with HTCustom, change the bitpool to 40 & normal stereo.
turned off dsp
turned off visualization
turned off equalizer
under the advanced settings there are loads of settings, does changing any of these help? i've tried changing a few with no great success.
Are there any other hacks within WM5 i can apply to get bluetooth stereo working well?
thanks in advance

Get iplay from 40th floor software--uses much fewer resources and sound is great. Also I have done what was recently posted in the hermes forum--delete the bitpool and set usejointstereo to 1 in WM6----sound is great now.

where to download this iplay, evertytime I open the website of this app my email client opens

you can get it from ppcwarez.
i've tried iplay but the problem is still there, though i agree it's less cpu intensive than pocketplayer and the audio clipping has nearly disappeared.
i think i'm going to upgrade to wm6 as it seems to handle bluetooth audio better.

I am in the same situation.
I've concluded that the Trinity has some bug with a2dp or bluetooth, as when you set the bitpool to some decent value, the performance goes down dramatically, even clicking the stylus interrumpts the sound.
As bjrmd stated before, you may try a light player (I'll do), as I've got different results with different players. Pocket Player is by now my best choice, as PocketMusic can't play with the equalizer on.
By the way, I've checked that setting bitpool isn't enough, you may also set MaxSupportedBitpool to the same value (or delete this entry). The higher the value, the slower the Trinity runs.

See some of the other threads regarding WM6 and the correct implementation of joint stereo. To get proper sound and bandwith you must use WM6 and the above settings.

Can anyone try A2DP?

I was wondering if the audio quality and sound stuttering has improved by using BT stereo headphones with Blackstone...
I have a trinity and i still haven't found a setting nor a rom nor a BT stack which handles my samsung headphones with a decent quality and no stuttering...
My cheap nokia 6234 has a solid connection and a good quality sound compared to the trinity... Plus, the A2DP connection slows my device down so much you have to pause if you want to do anything with it...
So if anyone could report about using bluetooth headphones with Blackstone, I would be very grateful as that would help me decide whether to buy or not
Thanks a lot
--
Fra

Great
I have the Touch HD for a few days now with the BH S100 HTC bluetooth headset. I have to say that the sound quality is great. It is even better than my conventional mp3 player.
Stable, never lost connection, etc.
Hope this helps.

I tried it today, with my Sony-headset.
It seems to stutter, though, for the five minutes I tested.

I have the Blackstone from seven day and the A2DP is OK with my Sony_Ericsson HBH-DS200.
The sound is very good and the pairing with the phone is immediatly in about 1 second.
Regards

reasonably OK with my Jabra BT620s. However, quality in BT A2DP is not really comparable with wired headsets, and i got some losses when passing nearby EM sources like wifi, etc.etc.

I needed to enhance the quality with Schaps Advanced Config Tool.

Alpine radio
I have an Alpine radio with bluetooth capabilities in my car, and for the first time I have a great connection with my HD. My Touch Diamond stuttered.

Thanks a lot everyone!
I guess it depends by the headset model and interferences then...
I'm still looking for a shop which would make me play with it for a little while...

i have a pioneer deh 700bt and the headunit set up was easier than the nokia n95
streaming music was a bit weird, the quality was very weird, kinda like very low bit rate streaming on mp3s at times, then fine again.
my n95 music used to pause when i took the key out of the ingnition and the stereo turn off
however the HD just keeps playing, but not through the speaker phone....just see it still playing
bit disappointed, and looking for a fix
I've only played for 10 mins, so i'll let you know if i find some more.

I have an Audi A3 from 2005 with a original BT carkit.
Can I use my HD to play some music ?
I can make phonecalls without a problem, if I adjust the volume of my carradio the volume from the HD is also adjusted.
But is there a possibility to play some music ?

Has anyone tried the Plantronics 855 Voyager stereo headset yet?
Also, I'm currently using the Jawbone 1 and noticed horrible interference/noise in the ear piece when the wifi is on, anyone else experience this?

I've never had any problems with the diamond and now with the hd. Like the senior man said, you need to increase the bluetooth bitpool values either in the registry or by using schaps tool. The difference in quality is immense - low values will make high bitrate music sound 64 kbps so you need to change this. Of course, the higher the bitpool the more chance of dropouts but I run at 60 and rarely, if ever have any dropouts.

Sennheiser MM200
Now if tested for almost one day my HD with my new Sennheiser MM 200. Amazing!!! The use of the MP3-Player switched with the use of the remote control to a new level. During sport display can be switched off(no need for touch display-less power consumption (try to give a more compareable info in future)), full control of play/pause/fwd/rwd/volume function. There is no delay of the HD in using the remote nor any transmission interruptings. Now the HD is with armwrest a perfect sport companion. The sound of the earphones - haven't had any better sound (and i've tried a lot of earplugs). Neckstrap fits perfect, mic in perfect position, clear speech and due to perfect noise reduction of the plugs even in noisy areas perfect understanding.
The Sennheiser was just charged the first time - i'll report the stamina.
So far -

I am using the i.Tech S35 bluetooth clip also on my HD now, and sound is very good, with WiFi on. Advantage of the clip is that one can use any headphones with it.
http://dontknowme.at/http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=2&pid=02041

Louis said:
I have an Audi A3 from 2005 with a original BT carkit.
Can I use my HD to play some music ?
I can make phonecalls without a problem, if I adjust the volume of my carradio the volume from the HD is also adjusted.
But is there a possibility to play some music ?
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no ... thats just working with A5
(is trying too much effort?)

Louis said:
I have an Audi A3 from 2005 with a original BT carkit.
Can I use my HD to play some music ?
I can make phonecalls without a problem, if I adjust the volume of my carradio the volume from the HD is also adjusted.
But is there a possibility to play some music ?
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It's not possible to play music, only phone functions are available.
I've tested the HD with the PARROT MK6000 and everything works very fine, also A2DP, Quality is good.Phone Functions great, Phonebook synchronize works perfect

A2DP skip : any solution ?

I am trying Touch HD with a Jabra 620s, A2DP (stereo headset profile), but I suffer occasional music skips.
I have read numerous thread about this problem, and habitual registery fixes like Priority256 etc.. doesnot seems to work with Touch HD.
With Bitpool=30 I have no skip, but sound is awful.
With Bitpool=40 I begin to skip. JOINEDSTEREO=1 helps a little.
I have not tried all Bitpool values below 40 (painful, softreset etc..) but Bitpool=40 is minimum quality IMO.
I tweaked Priority256 (/HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/BtA2dpSnd) down to 1, with not much improvement.
I noticed also turning Wifi off helps, but it is no sufficient.
Does anyone of you use A2DP ? Do you have problems ? Thanks for your help.

i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..

I get skips too. Haven't figured a solution yet.

I'm using Moto S9 stereo BT headset, I have the same problem......
And I noticed, when I start play music, and press the powerbutton make the HD enter the blackscreen mode, the quality is good, and music play very smooth, but if I press powerbutton again make the HD back to normal status, and screen on, big stutter occured, and after some seconds BT lost connect with HD......

It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?

i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...

Skipping?
I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.

kareem9nba said:
It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?
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I've seen it, but not installed it for two reasons :
1) It isn't validated for WM6 nor for Touch HD
2) It seems to eat CPU time too much, according to certain posts
Thanks for the tips anyways. If someone more daring than me installs it on Touch HD, keeps up informed.

pzucchel said:
i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...
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A lot of people have problems with A2DP, but a lot too have none. I'm pretty sure problem comes from poor BT stack, not A2DP technology itself or BT broadcast / EMI problems. I've almost the same skipping rate with my headset 30cm from my HD, than 5 or 8m from my HD.
Your suggestion is wise, but I'm eager to make my Christmas present functionnal..

audscott said:
I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.
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I've just downloaded it and tryied it. For now, no skip at all !!! (with BitPool=42) This application seems to be very optimized for A2DP.
I keep you informed in this thread if this resolves my issue. I want to increase Bitpool to 50 or more to have optimal quality (I listen classical), and I hope PP will handle this datarate.
Thanks for this excellent advice audscott.

tyronne1126 said:
i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..
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I also have had no problems using the HBH-DS980 except that I too can't get it to stay in 'standby mode'.
I started a thread on this exact same issue, but have had no joy up until now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462376
Any help or pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Mav.

dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.

Where can one find these settings? I have looked high and low!
***Doh! Found them... HD Tweak is my friend!***

ruffruff said:
dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.
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I also have iTech BlueWhatEver and it works better, but still ones a few minutes sound skips
Also how to prevent phone from waking up from standby when I press pause/ff/rew button? Because it's ****ing annoying, I have to manually turn phone back off, so avcrp is totally useless if I have to touch the phone.

I suggest you lower the bitrate to 44100. 48k is useless since your mp3 are in 44.1kHz and you will save some CPU, bandwith
Jointstereo = 0 is prefered for quality purposes.
Then the bitpool ... this is where it gets tricky because every headset have their own limitations.
When i use it with my sony ericsson HBH-IS800 I can go up to 48.
If I use another device I need to lower it to 40.
The "CPU" of you headset needs to be taken into account.
The touch HD have no difficulties encoding SBC in realtime in high bitrate, the issue comes from the headset itself not able to decode SBC fast enough according to the bitpool you chose.
So there's nothing you can do except trying another BT Stack (that can have better SBC encoding algorithm) or changing you A2DP headset.

A2DP - HD2 = awful :( Help...

I love my HD2 but the a2dp is awful....it uses the widcomm stack I understand?
I have put a linespeed reg setting for 256 in but it's still crap.
If I'm in my car listening to music, it still occasionally skips and the quality is extremely poor. Also, when I have GPS running at the same time, for some reason, the instructions are really crackly sounding over the music. It actually hurts to hear them....
How can I make this right??

i`m using it without problem... only thing is built-in music player... it skips sometimes

music and GPS simultaneously thru A2DP?

You may try setting the line speed to 320. I've been running at this from the beginning, since that's what I also used with my TP2. Though I wouldn't expect it to make a world of a difference, but why not? I'm quite happy with the audio quality at the moment, though it may not be exactly as good as with my TP2 (or maybe I just remember wrong). I'm using Nokia BH-214 BT-stereo receiver (BT 2.1 + EDR) with Sennheiser CX400-II.
Unfortunately I've no experience with simultaneous GPS and A2DP music on my HD2, but I think I recall from my TP2 that the quality was not too great.

I found a huge improvement when I turned the WiFi off

Cheers aBE-One. I tried 320 and it started skipping again!??! 256 seems the most stable, but it has this really strange thing that... the sound quality is fine, then it may skip half way thru a song and it's as if the mp3 has gone from 320Kb's to 96Kb's. I have to reset the phone.
Gajet, I never use WiFi!
Surely this phone can stream A2DP to a decent quality and more than a single audio stream. My old Omnia did it perfectly without any changes needed. Pooh Any other ideas?

i also have the bluetooth problem. where do i have to add the linespeed setting in the registry?

Yeah me too. Skips like mad. Also it wont sync via bluetooth to my laptop. Spent 4 hours trying to get it working.
I have even updated the firmware on my parrott car kit.
Rang O2 today and may send the phone back as without A2DP working, the phone is practically useless for me.
There must be a tweak somewhere!!

Oh and also, I can no longer send contacts to my parrott kit.
My Orbit 2 did it automatically.
YOu would think they would take these things into consideration!

I have upped the LineSpeed to 320 as well, it gave me better results than the 256. For those who don't know where to put it:
HKLM / Software / WIDCOMM / Plugin / AV
Make a Dword value called 'LineSpeed' and give it a dec value somewhere between 64 and 512. The higher the value, the better the quality, but the player can start skipping or acting weird. I found 512 to be too high.
I also had a skipping problem, the player would intermittently skip a beat (or two) in a song, more so above 320. I then did the Wireless enable n-speed hack, and now everything is fine, although wifi is turned off. Strange, but it works for me. Again, for those unfamiliar:
HKLM / Comm / BCMSDDHD1 / Parms --> change 11nModeDisable setting to 0
Now the A2DP sound quality is fine (it was terrible before the LineSpeed setting), and it doesn't skip. I have a Parrot MK6100 btw. Syncs with the phone just fine too.

Appelsap said:
HKLM / Comm / BCMSDDHD1 / Parms --> change 11nModeDisable setting to 0
Now the A2DP sound quality is fine (it was terrible before the LineSpeed setting), and it doesn't skip. I have a Parrot MK6100 btw. Syncs with the phone just fine too.
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Oooh I haven't tried this hack yet. I'll give this a go! I wonder if there's a way to up the amount of simultaneous audio streams? Perhaps that's why when I listen to music and have GPS, the instructions are very crackly but the music is okay....

No - still nothing Any other ideas?

The crackly sounds are copilots fault, their sound files are just too loud. I normalised them all in audacity and now they are fine. I've attached the emily ones, they go into the:
storage card/copilot/speech/en-gb/emily/
you should probably backup your existing files. A2dp music and speech then works perfect!
edit: I also volume levelled all my music files when syncing using mediamonkey, it helped a lot. (I keep all my music in lossless)

Ahhhhhhhhh you beauty! Actually I noticed that when I turned down the volume in igo slightly, it worked fine.
I like Emily, I'm using yours and it's brilliant. Co-pilot should have independent volume control like tomtom/igo....grrr
Thanks so much

Appelsap said:
Make a Dword value called 'LineSpeed' and give it a dec value somewhere between 64 and 512.
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I'm new to registry editing, can you please explain this further to me?
Thanks!
Nevermind, I got it right
Just right click, new Dword, simple.....

When I try changing 11nModeDisable to 0 it just says Access is denied.....
Nevermind, forgot to unlock registry, sorry for messing up the thread
Anyway, changing it made the sound quality alot better

The Dutch (NL) Saskia voice normalized for copilot live v8 (-3dB)
- Converted ogg files to mp3
- Used Mp3Gain to decrease all files by -3dB
- Converted mp3 back to ogg files

Appelsap said:
I have upped the LineSpeed to 320 as well, it gave me better results than the 256. For those who don't know where to put it:
HKLM / Software / WIDCOMM / Plugin / AV
Make a Dword value called 'LineSpeed' and give it a dec value somewhere between 64 and 512. The higher the value, the better the quality, but the player can start skipping or acting weird. I found 512 to be too high.
I also had a skipping problem, the player would intermittently skip a beat (or two) in a song, more so above 320. I then did the Wireless enable n-speed hack, and now everything is fine, although wifi is turned off. Strange, but it works for me. Again, for those unfamiliar:
HKLM / Comm / BCMSDDHD1 / Parms --> change 11nModeDisable setting to 0
Now the A2DP sound quality is fine (it was terrible before the LineSpeed setting), and it doesn't skip. I have a Parrot MK6100 btw. Syncs with the phone just fine too.
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Fan Tas Tic!!!! thank you very much for your advices your settings work on my HD2 like a charm I'm so glad!!! No more skippings no more trouble I quite befenit from my Motorola HT820.

Appelsap said:
I have upped the LineSpeed to 320 as well, it gave me better results than the 256. For those who don't know where to put it:
HKLM / Software / WIDCOMM / Plugin / AV
Make a Dword value called 'LineSpeed' and give it a dec value somewhere between 64 and 512. The higher the value, the better the quality, but the player can start skipping or acting weird. I found 512 to be too high.
I also had a skipping problem, the player would intermittently skip a beat (or two) in a song, more so above 320. I then did the Wireless enable n-speed hack, and now everything is fine, although wifi is turned off. Strange, but it works for me. Again, for those unfamiliar:
HKLM / Comm / BCMSDDHD1 / Parms --> change 11nModeDisable setting to 0
Now the A2DP sound quality is fine (it was terrible before the LineSpeed setting), and it doesn't skip. I have a Parrot MK6100 btw. Syncs with the phone just fine too.
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H! Hope this treath is not abandoned...
I set my HD2 has U've suggested but with linespeed value setting at 320, no audio at all from my Motorola S705. At 256 pretty sound but lot of skips. At 240 seems stable but quality is not so good.
How it's possibile? U've a HD2 too.
Plz help...

There is one more thing, for the skipping - disabling handsfree profile for your phones might help too (helped for me a bit - using Nokia BH-503 headset for a year now). And when incoming call comes, you just click on headphones on pick up button and they auto-reconnect to device (at least for me).

Microphone volume when using wired headset

We have been using the Sennheiser CC550 professional wired headsets for years with a range of phones, Nokia, SE, Iphone (you can buy different endplugs). But to my astonishment the sound from the microphone is crap with the S2. After extensive research we haven found out that this is a general problem with Samsung, Google/Samsung telephones and S2, no professional headset (call center type) that we or our supplier have tried (we tried a lot). We also checked the wiering scheme to exclude any "grounding" problem, and can't find a problem there either.
Anyone got a wired call center type headset to work?
I have done some reserach and it seems that the condensator microphones used in electronic headsets have to voltage standards (someting like 1,5 V and 2,3 V) - could it be that Samsung uses the lower voltage or someting.
To add on the burden the bluetooth implementation in S2 is crap (tried Plantronic Discovery - doesn't work at all and SE WM600 works but not very well and doesn't have a micrphone "boom".
Any suggestions?

I am using Plantronics Discovery everyday from the very first day I bought
my SGS2 without any problems whatsoever. I have still stock 2.3.3 fw on my
phone, plus the matching cf-root. Are you on stock fw as well, or have you
flashed a custom ROM - maybe this is to blame?
As for the wired headset issue in general, it is a fact the the Android
implementation (in general - regardless of manufacturer) is, to say the least,
mediocre. No wired headset with in-line remote works (i.e. volume control,
skip/forward, etc) without custom apps and ridiculous button press combinations.

Thanks four your reply. I have uppgraded a few orginal ROMs, currently on Cognition 1.6. The problem with Samsungs bluetooth stack on S2 seems to be widespread, we bouth the WM 600 as it seemed to have the least issues and it's headset sond is ok if not good (don't mix the headset profile up with the A2DP bluethooth "music" profile which is not engaged in hedset mode) . The CM7 ROM seems to have sorted out the bluetooth stack problem, but have other issues. Our wired headset problem is not related to in line controll buttons (or anything with media playback for that matter). This is another aspect of the headset functionality that we don't use e.g. the CC550 don't even have any buttons - as it is a "call center" headset. Our focus is pure "talk" sound quality - and particular microphone (outgoing) sound quality as the CC550 (and other wired headsets) relays the speaker at the other end normally (i.e. good). As a sidenote maybee Android 4 supports USB headsets, it seems possible to connect a DACT anyways, this would solve our issue /Regards voz

Don't know if you have the same problem as I do; here is what happens with my microphone issues. Maybe related?
When using any wired headset, everybody will complain that I am "too loud". Not just painful volume, but distorted. At first I thought it had to do with the frequency of my voice or something, but apparently people can hear my car radio at a volume so low I have forgotten that it is on.
Another thing I have noticed is when I am using headphones with a microphone (not necessarily talking on the phone) I hear buzzing noises, usually when interacting with the phone. For some reason when I use Twitter it's really bad. Once, while I was on the phone somebody said they could hear it too.
My only solution to the mic-gain issue was to enter service menu and lower mic gain levels, of course when I reboot settings are lost and to be honest when I forget to re-enter them, my friends and coworkers take the opportunity to ream me out.
*#197328640#
[5] audio
[1] nb (voice call)
[2] headset
[1] volume
[4]dst speech tx volume: i put 60 here, default is 88, but that is too loud. tx = transmit, many instructions say to adjust rx value, but that is to receive, so that would be your earbuds, not mic.
If anybody knows another fix, or way to make an adjustment permanent I would love to know.

Interesting, I cranked it up to 100, see how it goes. There are some other interesting settings, eg. Tx Gain - do you know what that is for?
A hassel to enter them again after reboot thoug!

Vozie_Stockholm said:
Interesting, I cranked it up to 100, see how it goes. There are some other interesting settings, eg. Tx Gain - do you know what that is for?
A hassel to enter them again after reboot thoug!
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My value for that and the 2 things before it are "0x6132"
I know this service menu isn't really meant for end-users, but it would be great if there was a little more documentation we could find regarding these values and what it all means.

[4]dst speech tx volume: tried 100 - increased the volume, tried 60 decreased the voluem - so it does work. However, the problem with the Sennheiser cc550 is that the Galaxy S2 changes the frequency response or something - so the volume is actually ok with the default setting at 88, but the sound comes out "high pitched" at the other end. To me it seems like the microphone in the headset is not feed properly from the handset. For an article on the subject see http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/computer_microphone.php