Thanks everyone in advance for any help you may give me.
I have just bought an HTC Desire and my company e-mail runs through MS Officelive (i.e. Hotmail/Windows Live for Business).
I have heard previous Android devices syncing with Hotmail (probably through 3rd party apps installed).
Does anyone know of a good email app that enables HTML etc. and syncs with Hotmail/Windows Live which isn't POP3 (which is terrible as it doesn't sync).
Tried Maildroid and it will only work over POP3 again (even though it says it works with Windows Live).
Would be great if there's a push one too!
Don't mind if it's a paid app either to get it working without POP3.
Any help?
Thank you again.
RE: MailDroid
Hi Urp,
MailDroid will work for it over IMAP if you have set the correct settings. Most people have POP3 so it defaults to that, but if you add in your username/pass and click manual setup, you will be able to add in your imap settings.
PM me if you need some help.
-Joe
P.S. I did not even know live supported IMAP
I tried Seven Beta and if kinda works with hotmail but is very buggy at the moment and support is lacking as it's only beta.
It may work better for you so give it a try
Sully
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support. Do you know the IMAP settings for Windows live then? Everywhere I've read said it isn't supported.
Thank you again guys!
Matt (urp)
RE: Windows Live
Right, that is what I thought. MailDroid works over POP3 for hotmail/live/msn etc. and will do a poll of the server. My understanding is that windows live mail means that the desktop client can access other IMAP accounts and not that Hotmail itself has IMAP.
You can get push mail by signing up for other companies (shangmail and maybe seven (not sure how seven does it)) and they will poll and get UIDs and then push to you. Essentially, they are polling and pushing from their application. Personally, I am biased, but I will tell you that I have many happy hotmail/live/msn users.
Are you seeing issues using MailDroid?
edit: Go to windowslivehelp.com and search for IMAP and you will see that it is not supported.
I have my hotmail account synced directly to my desire, i simply told it to set up an account used my hotmail addy and it got the settings from the internet for me.
However in case yours isnt picking them up for some reason I have provided them below for you- Htc Desire on Tmobile Software number 1.15.110.11
incoming settings
protocol =pop
pop server = pop3.live.com
security type =ssl
server port =995
outgoing settings
login required =ticked
username =hotmail addy ie [email protected]
smtp server=smtp.live.com
security type=tls
server port=587
Account name =Hotmail
Your Name =what ever you want it to display
hope that helps you.
The op doesn't want to use pop access he wants imap or push email, where it deletes messages from server and shows read items as already read etc
Sully
Then simply select your live/hotmail account and select the three vertical bars from the widget to take you into the full email app.
then from there you need to press the menu button and select more.
then select settings and under send and receive settings select
Delete mail on server to be on ie ticked.
this will then delete them from your hotmail account as you delete them from your device when you press refresh to resync the account.
This wont mark them as read on the server however, what you can do as a workaround is to select the unread function on the device to read your unread from the device or to switch off the delete from hotmail account setting and delete them all from your device after you have deleted the ones you dont want which will leave the ones you want to keep on the server but remove them from your device. Then when you sign into hotmail you can mark them all read.
isnt perfect but better than nothing.
btw just to add the delete settings can be set up seperately for each account etc etc
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Then simply select your live/hotmail account and select the three vertical bars from the widget to take you into the full email app.
then from there you need to press the menu button and select more.
then select settings and under send and receive settings select
Delete mail on server to be on ie ticked.
this will then delete them from your hotmail account as you delete them from your device when you press refresh to resync the account.
This wont mark them as read on the server however, what you can do as a workaround is to select the unread function on the device to read your unread from the device or to switch off the delete from hotmail account setting and delete them all from your device after you have deleted the ones you dont want which will leave the ones you want to keep on the server but remove them from your device. Then when you sign into hotmail you can mark them all read.
isnt perfect but better than nothing.
btw just to add the delete settings can be set up seperately for each account etc etc
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I am aware of the delete function, I was just giving examples of what imap has over a pop account. If you delete a message from hotmail after your phone has synced then it will remain on the device, I know what you are saying but it just doesn't offer the functionality of imap or push email
Sully
Appreciate that but unless you want to hand over your login details to a third party to handle that we are stuck with the above as there is no imap support with hotmail for paid or free accounts to the best of my knowledge, the only item i know that uses imap in conjunction with live mail is the windows desktop live client however there is no visible settings shown on what ports or settings are used.
Until someone can figure them out we are stuck with the above.
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Correct, or until Microsoft decides to catch up and implement IMAP
Thank you so so much guys, you've been so helpful. One reason I need IMAP or push is because I quite often move mail between folders. I need something like mboxmail on iPhone but on a far superior OS!
The nearest looks like seven but it isn't perfect by any means.
Thank you again guys, you've been so helpful.
P.s. noticed an engadget post saying HTC desire had overnight upgraded its Google maps to include turn by turn and its fantastic!!!!
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I would like to read my gmail email in MS Outlook on my computer, and while I am away from it, read the new only emails (the ones not yet downloaded to desktop) from my T-mobile MDA.
The way I understand it is done is to POP emails to desktop (which deletes them from the email server) and use IMAP on the mobile device to read whatever is not POPped yet. The problem is that Google’s Gmail does not support IMAP protocol. So how do I do this then, other than to change to an email provider who supports both POP and IMAP?
In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder.
I think what you need to do is change the settings in MS Outlook on your desktop to leave a copy of the email on the server for x number of days. On your PDA change the imap server settings to only download the last x number of messages or messages that were received in the last x number of days. I don't use a POP server anymore but you should be able to use the "tools" then "email accounts" then "view or change exisiting email accounts" and look for something along the lines of leave copy/copies of email on the server so that way Outlook doesn't delete them from the server.... In terms of the POP settings on the PDA make sure that it is never deleting emails off the server otherwise you are going to be faced with "dissapearing" email messages.
Hopefully this helps or someone else can be more helpful.
go to your gmail account, in the settings you can set it to be accessable through POP, do that. Dont forget to set it to leave a copy on the server
On your PDA you need to configure Outlook to accept the gmail accout.
go Start > Programs > Messaging
at bottom of screen choose Accounts
click New
enter email address click next
enter Your Name, User name, Password ( I leave the save password box ticked as I am idle ) click next
choose account type POP3
choose Name POP3 (unless you have option to choose another name you like better) click next
in server information
set Incoming as pop.gmail.com
set Outgoing as smtp.gmail.com
click the options button, page 2 of 3 check Outgoing requires server auth , check box Require SSL
click next
box now shows all Accounts as New, Text Message, POP3
click the OK top right of screen
thats it, done.
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In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder
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...and hence not downloaded to the desktop if I understand correctly.
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On your PDA change the imap server settings...
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Gmail does not support IMAP unfortunately. Also, I do not want to go by the number of days or number of messages because those things are not known in advance. I only want to pop email to my computer, and read whatever is not popped to the computer from the mobile device.
tbc_borg, the instructions are helpful if I only wanted to read email from the road. But after email is downloaded to the device, Gmail does not pop it to the desktop, which is not good for me.
I think I found how to do this.
I got another gmail address, set up forwarding of everything from the main email to the second one (with the original left in the main Inbox). I pop everything from the main email to the desktop and from the second email address to the Wizard. I will be receiving duplicate emails to both desktop and the mobile device, but that is better than having only half of emails on the desktop. Any better ideas? I searched extensively, found nothing smarter (well, again, other than finding an email provider that supports both pop and imap protocols).
I had the same problem. What I did was open a second relay a/c, eg [email protected]. I then added a forward on all mails from my normal gmail account to the relay account. On my phone I have my incoming mail server set to the relay account but my outgoing server set to my normal account. This means that all your mails will be forwarded to the relay account and when you want to reply to any of them on the phone it will send them from your normal account!
Bit of a roundabout way of doing things but works fine!
WOW, good hint with the different outgoing server, decmac! It works just as expected!
But I noticed something else that is wrong. I send a test email to my main email address, it gets forwarded to the relay email address. Send/receive from computer, receive the email fine. Send/receive from Wizard, receive it fine as well. So far so good. However, when I send/receive from the Wizard again, the email message that has just been downloaded gets DELETED and is nowhere to be found on the device (not even in "Deleted Items" folder.) I wonder what I have missed in the settings somewhere.
Yeah, that's a problem. It seems to only keep a current copy of your Gmail inbox on the phone so when you do send/receive it overwrites everything. What I have done to get around this is select "Get Message headers only" and select "Include x Kb of message body" Make x big enough to get all of your messages. It then keeps my messages in my inbox until I either delete it or select "Get entire message and any attachments" in the email message.
Not sure if this would work but maybe move messages into a local folder on the phone. Haven't tried this but in theory it should work! The above works perfect for me!
Perfect! It works!
Vielen Dank!
Kein Problem
Hello again fellow Touch 3g owners,
So ive come across this article and i was wondering if anyone has tried this. Im not able to try it with the standard email application for the touch 3g. I have been using the windows live application to sync my emails but i dont like it because it only syncs emails i havent read and i think its kinda stupid to have to open another application just to sync ur emails. Would gladly appreciate any input on this.
EDIT:
Ok so ive got it working by following one of the comments of the article. The email program automatically detects settings for these 3 domains: live.com, hotmail.com and msn.com. You do not want this to happen, so what you have to do is enter a fake domain like [email protected] and then enter the settings found in the article. Remember to tick the box for ssl and authentication for both ingoing and outgoing in the advanced settings. when ur done you can change the accountname to ur real email. this worked for me (accessed my emails, havent tried sending yet but i dont think that will be a problem).
just an update
So ive got it working, however its not to my liking. It works great exept for a few things. One is that i cant preview the messages in touchflo, it shows when and from who but not a preview of the content. Second is that mails already read elsewhere it downloads as unread. And last but not least, it takes a long time to sync. So if any of you has found a workaround pleas let me know.
Why don't you just configure all your pop3 in the mail tab. There you can easily and quickly send/receive or sync.
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Why don't you just configure all your pop3 in the mail tab. There you can easily and quickly send/receive or sync.
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I thought the same and configured my Hotmail account thru mail tab screen but, it opens inside the Opera browser which I am not happy..
Is there any way to see email accounts in the Mail tab screen only alike gmail etc ?
sas_sas said:
I thought the same and configured my Hotmail account thru mail tab screen but, it opens inside the Opera browser which I am not happy..
Is there any way to see email accounts in the Mail tab screen only alike gmail etc ?
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I configured my mails (including hotmail) using the Mail Tab. Once configured it gives the icons on the right as to which accounts I am looking at. And when I tap Menu - Send/receive, the individual icons (accounts) shows how many e-mails have come in (still unread) for each account (if any).
Follow this link http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/22/enable-hotmail-pop3-in-all-countries/ for hotmail configuration.
When first configuring, do not put [email protected][U]hotmail.com[/U], put something else (e.g. [email protected][COLOR="Red"]zzxxyy.com[/COLOR]). Configure manually, do not let it search. The rest follow instructions from above link. Once completed, then update - which gives fail. Then Tap Menu-Tools-Options-tap the hotmail email acc - and input all the correct info from there (the actual account login name, password.) Tap send/receive... Wallllla !!!!
azahidi said:
I configured my mails (including hotmail) using the Mail Tab. Once configured it gives the icons on the right as to which accounts I am looking at. And when I tap Menu - Send/receive, the individual icons (accounts) shows how many e-mails have come in (still unread) for each account (if any).
Follow this link http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/22/enable-hotmail-pop3-in-all-countries/ for hotmail configuration.
When first configuring, do not put [email protected][U]hotmail.com[/U], put something else (e.g. [email protected][COLOR="Red"]zzxxyy.com[/COLOR]). Configure manually, do not let it search. The rest follow instructions from above link. Once completed, then update - which gives fail. Then Tap Menu-Tools-Options-tap the hotmail email acc - and input all the correct info from there (the actual account login name, password.) Tap send/receive... Wallllla !!!!
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ths.
but it seems too complicated..
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ths.
but it seems too complicated..
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Well, it depends on the beholder. I configured it in less than 5 minutes, just once. Well that's the only way now, that I know and would like to share. Others may have a much more simpler, easier and less complicated way. I don't know.
Can someone please give me some simple instructions on how to set up googlemail push. I have googlemail set up and email frequency box is set at 5 minutes, it gives no option for push. I have not found the option to sync contacts etc. Maybe I am having another senior moment!! Thank you.
Check out the beta section on google sync website -That should give you the info you need. I have not got it to work yet though.
Belynda said:
Can someone please give me some simple instructions on how to set up googlemail push. I have googlemail set up and email frequency box is set at 5 minutes, it gives no option for push. I have not found the option to sync contacts etc. Maybe I am having another senior moment!! Thank you.
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if you create an new email account, don't select the gmail option. You need to create an active sync (exchange) connection... then you have push mail. instructions are indeed on the google sync beta page....
Many thanks, I will head over there now
in activesync app, type your gmail email and password, server is m.google.com ., go thru options for cal, contacts, and email, frequency, and peak times.
gavinfabl said:
in activesync app, type your gmail email and password, server is m.google.com ., go thru options for cal, contacts, and email, frequency, and peak times.
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Thank you
Now got the phone to push, new problem is that the notification sound does not work with it at present, could this have anything to do with still having the ordinary googlemail on the phone?? Do I need to remove it????
Getting in a mess here I deleted the original googlemail, now I have none.
Belynda said:
Thank you
Now got the phone to push, new problem is that the notification sound does not work with it at present, could this have anything to do with still having the ordinary googlemail on the phone?? Do I need to remove it????
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dont think so. I prefer using activesync for google contacts and calendar, and setting up gmail but without push in the email inbox. You should get email noises, no matter if both are there. Go to home screen, settings tab, menu, all settings, sounds and notifications, tab sounds, scroll to new email and check options are ticked as needed.
I can't get the push to work despite having hard reset the phone a couple of times. ( now got to get my music and photo's back on)
Contacts not so bad as they will sync with myphone.
I think I am going to have to go back to normal google syncing every 5 minutes. unless someone has another solution.
Thanks for your help
it may be your network not allowing it. make sure proxy is off in connections (settings, all settings, connections, connections, manage , edit, proxy)
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it may be your network not allowing it. make sure proxy is off in connections (settings, all settings, connections, connections, manage , edit, proxy)
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Thanks again,
Proxy is off.
Network O2 , I have had push email with Hero and O2.
I don't know what happened or that I did anything but push has decided to suddenly work!!!
Thanks for all your help.
Belynda said:
I don't know what happened or that I did anything but push has decided to suddenly work!!!
Thanks for all your help.
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Can you maybe post a small howto on the setup (srver and client site)?
I think that this would help a lot of users who would like to have this!
If I use GMail, but use my own domain instead of @gmail.com, can I still do Push Email?
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If I use GMail, but use my own domain instead of @gmail.com, can I still do Push Email?
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Your provider will need to support this.
It's NOT a normal thing they do.
Only "free" push providers that I know of are Gmail and Hotmail (live)
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Can you maybe post a small howto on the setup (srver and client site)?
I think that this would help a lot of users who would like to have this!
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Sure!
This is what worked for me after lots of attempts.
I deleted the original IMAP googlemail account
Iwent to activesync
Put in my googlemail address ie [email protected]
Password xxxxxxx ignore tha fact that it then adds extra digits.
Save password
leave domain name blank
username will come up as santa, this needs changing to [email protected]
edit server will come up and this is m.google.com
Choose the data you want to sync
Choose schedule as items arrive
The forst sync I had to press send and receive thereafter it worked.
What was confusing me before was the fact that I had the phone charging in the computer as I set up, it would not sync until I unplugged it. After unplugging it only pushed new mail not the mail already on the server.
I hope this makes some sense I am very new to this.
Ok.. Looks easy. Did you set anything in your gmail account on the server?
Also. I'm not sure if thats your true e-mail address, but if so, and if you do not like spam, you better remove it from your post!
Lot's of spam bots WILL get your e-mail address, and use it for sending spam to you!
Ok I managed to get it working after a bit, but syncing still seems slow. Also when I send a message from the phone it shows up in my mail client inbox anyway to stop this happening.
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Ok.. Looks easy. Did you set anything in your gmail account on the server?
Also. I'm not sure if thats your true e-mail address, but if so, and if you do not like spam, you better remove it from your post!
Lot's of spam bots WILL get your e-mail address, and use it for sending spam to you!
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No not my real email address it is of course santa's and he does not mind mail!
Did not set anything on server.
did anybody try to send a mail with some attachment to your gmail push account? When i get the mail on my device, i can see the attachment, however, i cannot open it or save it. When i click on the attachment it says downloading... but still cannot open or save it? does it work for you guys?
Hi! I have the following problem ( not directly HD2 related):
I've configured my hd2 to retrieve my mail from my yahoo account each hour ( don't really need push services) and it works flawlessly. The only problem is that when I delete a mail on the phone, it also syncs with the server and the mail gets deleted there too. I'd like to have the option of deleting it only on the phone, and keeping it on the server, is that possible?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, go to mail, enter the inbox.
menu - scroll to tools - options select account
then send/receivce schedula
advanced settings
"when deleting messages:" and change to the appropriate option
Thanks a lot, can't believe I didn't see the "Tools" menu (t'was because I didn't scroll down ).
Wait, I don't see an advanced settings tab at all...
i also would like to know how to do this.....
i use Hotmail for my email..... I have the account set up and working on my phone, but there is no Advanced settings tab available, to select "deleting messages" options ???
is this just not possible to keep messages on the server, using free online email accounts such as Hotmail, Yahoo, gMail ???
PS: I have no idea what these things mean, but I have heard the terms before regarding email account.... is it something to do with being a POP or IMAP account ???
I've looked all over..and can't find a section that mentions push mail from yahoo, aol, etc.
I'm coming from the iPhone so the push mail works on the Yahoo side and I believe on the aol side.
I know that MS exchange has push feature to the phone but what about the other standards? gmail?
I noticed on Cookies HT there is a push mail icon but that did not work (i take it that's for ms direct push?)
Lastly...is there a setting or app that allows ALL mail to send / receive vs just doing one account at a time (annoying)?
Thank you!
the microsoft direct push functionality (supported on ALL windows mobile devices in at least the past 3-4 years) works with ANY microsoft exchange server.
this means it will work for gmail (i am using it myself!) because google has the exchange server on their end. google itself provides a generic windows mobile tutorial on how to set it up and you can find a video guide on youtube specifically on how to set it up on a stock HD2 (technique should work on custom ROMs too). my only additional advice is to back up your contacts (either to microsoft myphone or using pimbackup) before proceeding because the google sync can also upload your contacts to google, and you don't want your contacts to get nuked in case something goes wrong during the initial sync. another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox. finally, the first sync may take several minutes (even an hour) depending on the duration you have set up to sync (i use a setting for last one month worth of emails) and on your connection speed (try to use wifi for the first sync).
i don't know about yahoo or aol but if they support the microsoft exchange server on their side, then push email should theoretically work in these cases also.
all in all, i rather like the functionality because it is highly configurable. you can even set up "schedules" such that it works in push mode on, say, weekdays from noon to midnight and switch to, say, 4 hour poll mode while you are sleeping.
then again, i haven't experienced push email on any other device such as the black berry or iphone so my view point is rather limited.
Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2
dubie76 said:
Simply put yes. I have yahoo pop3 servive and get my yahoo mail just fine on the HD2
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pop3 in "poll mode" is different from push email, which is what the OP was asking about.
however, for most practical purposes, pop3/imap in quick poll mode (like once every 5 minutes) is really not that bad, but it might adversely affect battery life.
i suppose poll mode is fine for most of us but some individuals/businessmen might rely on quick email delivery straight to their phone so its more logical to consider poll vs push as two separate technologies in discussions!
Do the folders selected to be sync with inbox will sync automatically?
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another potential confusion you might face is that you will see the labels set up on gmail as folders on your device's client. by default, syncing of folders is disabled, but you can go into "manage folders" under one of the menus when viewing your inbox on the device to pick the folders that you want to sync in addition to the inbox.
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Hi,
I was searching for this and thank you for letting me know how to do it! I didn't know there is a "manage folders" option until I scroll down (Din knew I can scroll down, lol)
By the way, as mentioned above, do the folders selected sync automatically? Will they appear on the mail tab?
Thank you.
guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!
fuorigioco1981 said:
guys i have been searching for a way to get push email with yahoo on my hd2 but till now i got nowhere!i get into activesync but iam suck on where i have to write "domain" and "server" details!any help appreciated!
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you can create an exchange account using your gmail login,if you have it,otherwise you can create a new gmail account and use it for send/receive your mail in push:in gmail web page you must add your yahoo account for check and than configure the exchange as i explane!
pop3 is NOT push. There is a delay. Depends on when you have it checking.
As far as i know, the default windows mobile does NOT support push email for yahoo. If you want push email, use seven like i did. Worked fine on my hd2.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
It will allow push email from yahoo and many others. It is NOT an email app where you read them in seven, but a tool to push it to your phones normal email program. (what you would be using now)
I have been using it for a long time and had no problem.