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Ok i just ordered a nexus one unlocked and i was wondering, Will i receive updates OTA from Google? I live in the middle east.
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I don't see why you wouldn't.
Most people say that the carrier T-mobile or others have released a update..they never say google has released an update
With it being an unlocked phone, I don't think it's going to matter which carrier you're on, it'll just be pushed directly to the phone.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Or should i root the nexus one and stick with custom ROMs, i did it with my G1 but i'm afraid it will get bricked! and then i have to spend 528$ on it again.
I believe it will matter which carrier youre on, just as it does for the G1, when you get your update depends on when your carrier pushes it out. However if you root it you can always apply the new roms, which usually come out earlier anyways. Other than that im not sure. It also may be that google will put the updates out for download like htc does.
We didn't buy from a carrier we bought an unlocked phone from google. This is why google made their own phone - because carriers are months late in pushing updates.. if they ever do. It's not analagous to the G1, which had to be sourced via a carrier.
I guess ill just wait until there is a new update and see if my nexus one gets updated, if not then i'm going to root thanks!
Hey was just wondering if anyone on the Telus network recieved the update yet?
I am on TELUS with LG Win 7 phone and wanted to make sure they aren't being blocked by my carrier as Microsoft said they might be for some networks. I've checked through Zune and still nothing I know it's only been two days but I'd rather know now if I have to start finding another solution to get updates. If anyone has recieved a notification or knows anything about it let me know thanks
I did not get anything either. I have a feeling a lot of carrier based phones haven't got them yet, and I doubt a lot of them are blocking it.
Edit: I stand corrected according to wmpoweruser It seems like telus hasn't pushed any updates but this can be due to the whole samsung fiasco delaying things.
Any chance you can send me a link to that page would love to see what's going on.
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Any chance you can send me a link to that page would love to see what's going on.
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it was an informal poll, just people leaving comments saying they had or hadnt gotten it.
I just spoke with a telus rep who wasn't able to tell me anything more about if/when the update would be available (I was on hold while he contacted "the technical team").
The only piece of information I got (which was assumed ... by me anyways ) was that unlike the old system where Telus paid OEMs to create the updates the wp7 updates are "free" to the carrier.
March 1 and still no update. I think Telus is skipping this one. The Telus rep I called didn't even know Telus carried any Windows phones and thought I meant the iPhone, so you can imagine how long that phone call lasted.
The 7008 update is now available for Telus customers. Here's news for the 7389 update (NoDo);
The earliest date that a TELUS customer can receive the Windows Phone 7 software update is Tuesday March 29th, 2011. Microsoft is releasing the software update in a phased approach and it may take up to four weeks for all TELUS customers to have the option to receive the update and upgrade their device software.
Keep your smartphone running efficiently by using the latest available software.
The release of OS software 7.0.7389.0, provides the following benefits and enhancements for your smartphone.
Introduction of copy and paste functionality.
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/QC/lg_optimus_7_support/
The one thing I noticed after updating my phone is that it did not do a backup of it. (There was only 9 steps done on the update process) I thought that the pre-nodo update was supposed to make a backup of your phone.
i have a telus lg optimus 7 unlocked and now on the sasktel network. my question is am i screwed for getting these updates because sasktel doesn't recognize the phone as one of there models and i am not on the telus network so they wont push it to me? i cant justify paying 400 bucks for a phone that i cant get the new updates the Microsoft rolls out.
If you do not get this update, you will get the next one (By mid March) definitely. Microsoft has confirmed that much. I contacted Telus, and it seems they have "no information to offer at this time". Basically, Telus is the only carrier in North America that has yet to offer update for their WP7 devices, but two weeks is not that long to wait, right? Especially considering that this update does...nothing, and all updates are cumulative.
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If you do not get this update, you will get the next one (By mid March) definitely. Microsoft has confirmed that much. I contacted Telus, and it seems they have "no information to offer at this time". Basically, Telus is the only carrier in North America that has yet to offer update for their WP7 devices, but two weeks is not that long to wait, right? Especially considering that this update does...nothing, and all updates are cumulative.
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I'm planning on giving Telus a few more days before complaining loudly, as the rollout was to be staged, so maybe they volunteered to be last on the list :|
Personally, I'm fairly concerned about this as Telus doesn't have the greatest record for updates in the past, and holding this back isn't a good sign (imho).
Even if this minor update is rolled into "no-do", there's no guarantee "mango" won't be an 'odd numbered' update, or that we won't be weeks behind others getting either/both.
From the windows phone team blog
(http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...-answers-about-our-first-software-update.aspx)
Q: I still haven’t received an update notification yet. When can I expect it?
A: It’s hard to predict because it depends on many factors. It could be days—or even weeks—before you’re able to update your phone.
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So as the rest of the world gets copy/paste, theoretically we telus users could just be getting the pre-nodo update.
I'm right there with you I had the same thought when I read that article. I don't understand why Rogers and Bell both have launched it but Telus hasn't I tweet'd customer service about it and they answered back they had no information about unreleased updates.
I am hoping that maybe Telus wanted to "save us" from the trouble of doing 2 updates in a fairly short period of time. At least we know that they can't block nodo. Out of curiosity does anyone know how Telus is with android updates?
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I'm right there with you I had the same thought when I read that article. I don't understand why Rogers and Bell both have launched it but Telus hasn't I tweet'd customer service about it and they answered back they had no information about unreleased updates.
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I've been looking around all the standard places for more info but haven't come across anything. My fear is that the wp7 userbase on Telus is small enough that they don't consider us a priority.
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I am hoping that maybe Telus wanted to "save us" from the trouble of doing 2 updates in a fairly short period of time. At least we know that they can't block nodo. Out of curiosity does anyone know how Telus is with android updates?
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They're mediocre at best.
http://www.androidincanada.ca/category/telus-android/
Another thread discussing similar possibilities for crappy timing/rollout (carriers get 8 weeks?!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968990
I hope that we are considered a priority. I'll do my part and call and bug them maybe if everyone jumps on board we'll get this update.
i spoke to sasktel and they have already rolled out the patch on there network. but because my phone is telus branded and the zune software see the phone as telus it wont give me the update. sasktel does not recognize my phone for updates so i would assume that's because they don't sell the phone.
I'm in the same situation as you kazman. Have an unlocked Telus branded Optimus 7 running on the Bell network, and wondering if I'll get the update when/if Telus releases it.
Will report if I do.
I cannot believe we can't find a solution to get the update...
Like Android, installed custom ROM of WP7 to avoid carrier blocking.
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I've been looking around all the standard places for more info but haven't come across anything. My fear is that the wp7 userbase on Telus is small enough that they don't consider us a priority.
They're mediocre at best.
http://www.androidincanada.ca/category/telus-android/
Another thread discussing similar possibilities for crappy timing/rollout (carriers get 8 weeks?!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968990
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So I emailed client care about the update, (your gonna love this)
"Hello Justin,
Thank you for taking the time to write to TELUS via e-mail.
Windows has not released any official updates yet. Please refer to the following link for details:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx
When an official update is released from the manufacturer, it's also posted on our equipment page specific to your phone:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/lg_optimus_7/index.shtml
For further information or assistance, please reply to this message, including your original e-mail and our response. If you prefer, you may also call our Client Care team toll free Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, and Weekends and Holidays from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM at 1-866-558-2273 (or *611 from your wireless handset).
Thank you for using TELUS' online service and have a great day."
So I have emailed back asking that he double check the site and not just send me to the page that tells people what the next update is but infact to check the update page (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/update-history.aspx) Still waiting on an answer but it's great that they took the time to really look into it So I have emailed back and shown them the link and also shown them Bell and Roger's pages releasing it as well as a few carriers with the same phone (LG Optimus 7) that have released it. (because you know that's where they would go next) Will post results on here if I get them.
that is completely ridiculous. i called a telus store yesterday in Saskatchewan and she told me that they don't know about updates and recommended that i move the date on my phone ahead a year and i should get the update then. but she had just told me a minute ago that there where no updates. they need to get a clue.
So it seems like Telus just doesn't know what to do with updating the phone. I am a bit surprised and doubtful that Microsoft didn't tell them though. It just shows a huge lack of communication within Telus.
as I posted in the other thread, I talked to a telus rep who also no idea about the update; but was able to confirm they didn't have to pay MS for it, so we should be getting it.
I've got a 10 year old account with them and made it clear I would be willing to switch carriers if they dropped the ball.
Hopefully we can get enough people telling telus the same that they'll get their act together.
i would like to know why we cant just get the update from the zune software. and if a carrier such as telus hasn't released the update how does the zune software know not to offer you an update or does telus need to respsond to microsoft that the update is out on there network. how about a new rom from bell or rogers that would solve all our problems.
kazman13 said:
i would like to know why we cant just get the update from the zune software. and if a carrier such as telus hasn't released the update how does the zune software know not to offer you an update or does telus need to respsond to microsoft that the update is out on there network.
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It's going to be something like that (e.g. telus tells MS it's approved, WinPhoneUpdate sets the flag to allow it).
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how about a new rom from bell or rogers that would solve all our problems.
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I'd assume going to a differently branded rom would solve it, although that'd likely negate access to the telus app store. Another potential issue is that the telus optimus7 is a different model number from the european one. I have no idea which version the mexicans got so there may not even be a viable alternate rom. :|
An unfortunate truth
Look guys, this first update was OPTIONAL for carriers. It did not provide any new features and was just a test update before the real update in a week and a bit. Unfortunately for you guys, TELUS decided to not push this one in favour of just sending one update later. You shouldn't be upset at TELUS ... yet. I had an Android phone with them before and just about lost my mind over the update issue, but I think WP7 will be different because MS has more say than the OEMs do regarding Android. I feel bad that you guys are suffering, but it isn't really TELUS' fault.
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Look guys, this first update was OPTIONAL for carriers. It did not provide any new features and was just a test update before the real update in a week and a bit.
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That doesn't really disuade any concerns.
It's not just a test and no user visible features does not equal not necessary - think API changes before mango
My main fear is that something I'll deem critical will be in one of these minor updates, and telus will make me wait 6 months till the next major update instead of just pushing me the fix.
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You shouldn't be upset at TELUS ... yet.
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I concur, as this is hopefully a unique/one time scenario, which is why I'm waiting to see what they do with NoDo before complainging too loudly/switching carriers
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I feel bad that you guys are suffering, but it isn't really TELUS' fault.
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Just because I feel like nitpicking (I'm just being a smart-ass, don't take it seriously/personally ):
There are three "entities" involved in getting my phone updated
1) Microsoft - they've released the update, not their fault
2) Myself - I've connected to my computer and forced zune to check for updates, not my fault
3) Telus - They're not pushing the update for whatever reason ... pretty sure it's their fault
optional or not this still makes telus look bad when all other major carriers in canada are pushing this update but not telus.
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So I emailed client care about the update, (your gonna love this)
"Hello Justin,
Thank you for taking the time to write to TELUS via e-mail.
Windows has not released any official updates yet. Please refer to the following link for details:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx
When an official update is released from the manufacturer, it's also posted on our equipment page specific to your phone:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/lg_optimus_7/index.shtml
For further information or assistance, please reply to this message, including your original e-mail and our response. If you prefer, you may also call our Client Care team toll free Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, and Weekends and Holidays from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM at 1-866-558-2273 (or *611 from your wireless handset).
Thank you for using TELUS' online service and have a great day."
So I have emailed back asking that he double check the site and not just send me to the page that tells people what the next update is but infact to check the update page (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/update-history.aspx) Still waiting on an answer but it's great that they took the time to really look into it So I have emailed back and shown them the link and also shown them Bell and Roger's pages releasing it as well as a few carriers with the same phone (LG Optimus 7) that have released it. (because you know that's where they would go next) Will post results on here if I get them.
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Here's the answer! I got back from Telus after showing them where the update was and asking why we don't have it and why Rogers and Bell have released it.
Hello Justin,
Thank you for your reply.
Due to the technical requirements involved we are unable to disclose when the update will become available.
I would recommend to check our Website for updates as this is the first place any new information on your handset will be advertised:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/lg_optimus_7_support/
I regret any inconvenience or confusion this has caused and thank you for your patience in this matter.
For further information or assistance, please reply to this message, including your original e-mail and our response. If you prefer, you may also call our Client Care Team toll free Monday to Friday from 8:00 AM to 10:00 PM, and Saturday and Sunday from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM at 1-866-558-2273 (or *611 from your wireless handset).
Thank you for using TELUS' Online Services and I hope you have a wonderful day.
Best regards,
Aekta
e.Care Specialist
TELUS
There's a technical requirment that makes them unable to disclose when the update will become avalible... doesn't make too much sense but I do agree with all of you. It's not that I desperatly want this update or that it's really negativly effecting me in anyway, it's that I fear this pattern may continue on to updates that improve the phone. We'll see what happens in March hopefully Telus pulls it together or at least has a better answer then just because.
I am just wondering if we are all in the same boat. I haven't received the notification, nor will it update if I plug it into zune... Why do I feel like the quantum is the bastard child of the wp7 lineup?
You might want to check this out:
wpcentral.com/get-nodo-now-debranding-your-lg-phone
Be sure to read the comments as there is a correction to the process in there.
I did this to get the patch update (went from build 7004 to 7008), but no NoDo yet.
I've been looking for this info!
I figured there must be a "targeting" string or something in there somewhere.
I bet it gets reset somehow later.
I'm with Bell in Ontario, no NoDo for me.
I'm honestly not really expecting it. Like at all. I've lost pretty much all faith in MS.
I'm with Rogers here in BC, but using an unlocked AT&T branded phone.
No updates (either of them) have shown up, but I suspect it's because AT&T hasn't released them yet.
I think we'll eventually see the 'NoDo' release, but it might take a while as AT&T are notoriously slow in 'testing' new releases of the O/S...
Have to check out that 'unbranding' thread, tho (since I'm already 'unlocked' from AT&T)...
I feel like m$ screwed up by letting carriers doing testing. There is no way m$ could get carriers to release updates on time and together. AT&T has never had a good IT device department. it is like letting a baby be a contractor and expect a house to be built on time.
None of the AT&T US phones are supposed to get NoDo until May or so I think. It's because they're slow "testing".
I can confirm that the unbranding and using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012189 Method 1 works but is a bit tricky to get the timing right.
I went to wpcentral and followed the instructions for "NoDo update hack released--works for every device, every carrier right now" I now have version 7.0.7390.0. It was pretty easy just follow the instructions.
Got NODO (7390) today on unbranded Quantum
Hi guys... just wanted to let you know that I just got the NoDo update (7390) today through Zune on my 'unbranded' AT&T LG Quantum.
Took about 15 mins.
When i read the white pages with the correct description, i found 2 websites that sells the xperia play with the US 3G bands
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-Iy5Cw&usg=AFQjCNGPEmiD1i3HIOJJbaNMpVC8NhI7nw
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-Iy5Cw&usg=AFQjCNEB_7JRNctbu6epR5XZZ1FGfVSt0w
Does anyone ever purchase from any of this 2 websites? one seems to be in FL and the other in NV...
Looks like the bands the difference
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
negrielectronics is showing pre-order
celluloco is showing in stock but i highly doubt that
Check http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkingrus.com%2F&ei=x9avTbaeBsfHrQfimN34CA&usg=AFQjCNEAgAxGKDBPHM4-BuMQd-0Mg_xJmA
The xperia play comes in four versions R800i/a/at/x. If you check the white paper on xperia play from SE you'll see It must be region related?
Regards Dousan...
I'm rather curious about these sellers as well. I've been gnashing my teeth waiting for this phone since rumor broke that Sony was seriously working on it last year (and was hoping for something like it for even longer). Has anyone bought from either of these sellers yet?
I've been seeing a lot of the European R800i model. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T, which will require either the R800a or R800at. Both have the same bands, but I suspect the R800a is the generic North American model for both the US and Canada (Rogers seems to be getting this one), while the R800at is probably going to be some sort of AT&T-centric (read: butchered) version. While it would be nice to save some money through the carrier, at this point I'm more inclined to get an unlocked version at retail price. My guess is that it's going to be around $550-600 off-contract when supplies ramp up.
Also, has anyone heard any more on the R800x (Verizon CDMA) version having a SIM card slot? I saw something about that a few weeks ago and wondered if it was at all functional.
MechaBouncer said:
I'm rather curious about these sellers as well. I've been gnashing my teeth waiting for this phone since rumor broke that Sony was seriously working on it last year (and was hoping for something like it for even longer). Has anyone bought from either of these sellers yet?
I've been seeing a lot of the European R800i model. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T, which will require either the R800a or R800at. Both have the same bands, but I suspect the R800a is the generic North American model for both the US and Canada (Rogers seems to be getting this one), while the R800at is probably going to be some sort of AT&T-centric (read: butchered) version. While it would be nice to save some money through the carrier, at this point I'm more inclined to get an unlocked version at retail price. My guess is that it's going to be around $550-600 off-contract when supplies ramp up.
Also, has anyone heard any more on the R800x (Verizon CDMA) version having a SIM card slot? I saw something about that a few weeks ago and wondered if it was at all functional.
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from the white pages that we saw a couple of days ago (revealing the model name for each version) we can tell that the CDMA version doesnt have GSM slot, otherwise it will be listed there.
Regarding the release for both the verizon and rogers, apparently both are on the 28th, hopefully we will see the unlocked version as well on the next week, and based on the european price, it will be probably $600 and up...
I cant wait any longer either!! i was even thinking to get the R800i version is the phone is not released this week, since the 3g on tmobile sucks anyways...
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from the white pages that we saw a couple of days ago (revealing the model name for each version) we can tell that the CDMA version doesnt have GSM slot, otherwise it will be listed there.
Regarding the release for both the verizon and rogers, apparently both are on the 28th, hopefully we will see the unlocked version as well on the next week, and based on the european price, it will be probably $600 and up...
I cant wait any longer either!! i was even thinking to get the R800i version is the phone is not released this week, since the 3g on tmobile sucks anyways...
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Well according to some articles I saw around the beginning of the month, the FCC tear-down of the CDMA model showed that it physically had a SIM slot. Unfortunately the forum won't let me post the links. One of the links thought it could be a for LTE or allow it to act as a world phone. Since there hasn't been any mention of either, it makes me wonder if it's just there for show?
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Well according to some articles I saw around the beginning of the month, the FCC tear-down of the CDMA model showed that it physically had a SIM slot. Unfortunately the forum won't let me post the links. One of the links thought it could be a for LTE or allow it to act as a world phone. Since there hasn't been any mention of either, it makes me wonder if it's just there for show?
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Yes, i read that post as well, but still, the white pages should provide a full description of the product and doesnt mention a thing about a sim card on the R800x version, we will have to wait and see i guess...
After spending a few minutes chatting with Celluloco guys, i will not trusth them at all. They charge florida taxes, but they dont have a phisical address in FL, when i ask for one, they told me that the address is only for Wholesale accounts, so i ask to open one account, since i'm an importer/exporter and could be usefull. But no, they deny it because they are full, and they are not opening any accounts.
So i ask them the real company name, since they charge FL taxes, they must have a registered company in the FL Bizz Directory, but no, they deny again telling that their company is based on Cayman Islands ?!?!
So long story short... dont buy to this guys, not even a cell charger, its a plain scam, even on facebook (they have a facebook account) there are people claiming that after a week of paying a cell phone, he cant reach a single person to know the status of their order.
I found them on the FL Bizz, and they are a inactive company... what a scam!!
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/corde...&names_comp_name=CELLULOCO&names_filing_type=