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So finally my gf is going to get her first smartphone!!! I think I am moreexcited about it than she is.... big steps in life..
anyways I had suggested the aria for her...well the only way to get it now is through att online.. not in any stores as they are going to discontinue it...
my question is I have been reading so far that it cannot be rooted and hacked once its been updated... is that like a forever thing? or can it be downgraded then flashed?
also does anyone know if it comes from att online already updated and set up?
I dont want her to get this phone if it is completely locked down...
the only other phones I suggested are the atrix and inspire.. however she likes the phones but she thinks they are just too big..
right now it looks like the atrix is going to be the way to go.... especially if this phone comes updated and unrootable.....
please any thought would help out.. especially if anyone knows if att updates the phone before they mail it to you.
thanks,
Nsomnia
Nsomnia911 said:
So finally my gf is going to get her first smartphone!!! I think I am moreexcited about it than she is.... big steps in life..
anyways I had suggested the aria for her...well the only way to get it now is through att online.. not in any stores as they are going to discontinue it...
my question is I have been reading so far that it cannot be rooted and hacked once its been updated... is that like a forever thing? or can it be downgraded then flashed?
also does anyone know if it comes from att online already updated and set up?
I dont want her to get this phone if it is completely locked down...
the only other phones I suggested are the atrix and inspire.. however she likes the phones but she thinks they are just too big..
right now it looks like the atrix is going to be the way to go.... especially if this phone comes updated and unrootable.....
please any thought would help out.. especially if anyone knows if att updates the phone before they mail it to you.
thanks,
Nsomnia
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If it comes from AT&T with the Froyo 2.2 update applied, then it will be un-rootable, even if you downgrade back to 2.1.
If they are discontinuing the Aria, then I would say the chances are that the current stock on hand does not have the Froyo 2.2 update on it are very good and it's worth taking a chance on.
A couple things:
Are you starting new service with AT&T, or eligible for an upgrade and thus getting the phone at a discounted/free price OR
Are you paying full no-commitment pricing as you are already AT&T customer?
Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
Mine came with Android 2.1 OS and I had it rooted and a custom ROM loaded on within an hour of opening the box!
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If it comes from AT&T with the Froyo 2.2 update applied, then it will be un-rootable, even if you downgrade back to 2.1.
If they are discontinuing the Aria, then I would say the chances are that the current stock on hand does not have the Froyo 2.2 update on it are very good and it's worth taking a chance on.
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Mine was purchased through the online store and it had 2.1 on it. So the chances are quite good you'll be able to root.
woodbane said:
A couple things:
Are you starting new service with AT&T, or eligible for an upgrade and thus getting the phone at a discounted/free price OR
Are you paying full no-commitment pricing as you are already AT&T customer?
Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
Mine came with Android 2.1 OS and I had it rooted and a custom ROM loaded on within an hour of opening the box!
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This is what I did and the phone came with 2.1. that was 6 weeks ago. Rooted and rommed...
So wait - if the phone has been updated to 2.2, it can NEVER be rooted and modded, like EVER?
That may change my eBay buying habits for this phone...
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So wait - if the phone has been updated to 2.2, it can NEVER be rooted and modded, like EVER?
That may change my eBay buying habits for this phone...
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Its possible it may never happen. It all depends on whether someone figures out how to crack the newer hboot.
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Its possible it may never happen. It all depends on whether someone figures out how to crack the newer hboot.
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Oooh. That's scary.
You might try HERE. They are listed as having the 2.1 OS.
I need it unlocked to use up here in Canada - hence my worry about it coming with 2.2 on it. I'm just going to try to communicate with the eBay sellers and hope they know what they are talking about.
Unlocking a phone for use on other carriers is completely separate from rooting and installing custom ROMs. You can unlock a phone that has AT&T official 2.2 update on it.
Yeah, but wouldn't I be stuck with a bunch of AT&T apps I could never use in Canada?
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Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
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Thank you so much for this link! I've been looking at the Aria as my first Android phone, but AT&T only offers a refurbished one as an upgrade. I could get the refurb Aria for $0 or an Inspire for $99 through AT&T. Like the OP's girlfriend, I don't like the size of the Inspire. Also looked at the Captivate, but it seems big too.
At Amazon, I got a new Aria for $50. They added the extra data plan at checkout. Should get it Tuesday.
Anybody thinking of reverting back, rebranding and getting the AT&T specific updates?? Kicking the idea around myself, Data="ATT-US" was the removed string... Please let is know if anybody goes this route...
I just did. Had to roll back to 7008, didn't have 7004. Hope it still works.
Think of doing the same just wanted to wait for someone to report if there are in fact anything different or was ATT just talking.
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Think of doing the same just wanted to wait for someone to report if there are in fact anything different or was ATT just talking.
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I'm curious about that too plus want to see if the Debranding then rebranding causes any issues with getting updates like the ones they are expecting for those who used the nodoupdatertools to get updates sooner then the rest..
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I'm curious about that too plus want to see if the Debranding then rebranding causes any issues with getting updates like the ones they are expecting for those who used the nodoupdatertools to get updates sooner then the rest..
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well i did not do the chevron way i did the spoof way that was done at first so i do have a backup of my phone.
Not worth the wait (and sooo glad I did the VPN hack update)
Apparently the ATT exclusive *features* they are adding is a WISPr protocol that switches you to login into att wifi hotspots automatically when near one. To save you (and them) data bandwidth.
The other feature is to allow you to sync your contacts with your att address book. Even lamer.
So yes ATT made you wait this long for nothing.
Lesson learned. Always rely on the fans and community for support, not the ones you have a contract with.
Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/att-unique-features-coming-with-nodo-update-revealed/
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Not worth the wait (and sooo glad I did the VPN hack update)
Apparently the ATT exclusive *features* they are adding is a WISPr protocol that switches you to login into att wifi hotspots automatically when near one. To save you (and them) data bandwidth.
The other feature is to allow you to sync your contacts with your att address book. Even lamer.
So yes ATT made you wait this long for nothing.
Lesson learned. Always rely on the fans and community for support, not the ones you have a contract with.
Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/att-unique-fe...medium=twitter
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Yes sir. I will not be rolling my girlfreinds phone back just to get the ATT update, waste of time, especially if you live in a small town and have NO hotspots...
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Yes sir. I will not be rolling my girlfreinds phone back just to get the ATT update, waste of time, especially if you live in a small town and have NO hotspots...
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lol same here. 1 starbucks and a few McDonalds...not worth it. plus i've been on ATT for 3 yrs now and still grandpa'd into the unlimited data usage plan...so no worries on data
I did revert to 7008 and re-branded my phone. I am not worried about ATT's feature. I more worried about firmware updates. I know Rodger's Focus had firmware updates.
I did have trouble with it at first. This post solved my problems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013867
Anyone realizing that ATT made us wait for a feature that switches us to their WiFi hotspots...unsecure open WiFi hotspots. Double stack stupid
There are AT&T-specific changes, and there are OEM-specific changes. I can live without the AT&T crap, but if Samsung has firmware or driver update included w/ the AT&T NoDo update, then you guys may be missing out on them...
Michael.
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There are AT&T-specific changes, and there are OEM-specific changes. I can live without the AT&T crap, but if Samsung has firmware or driver update included w/ the AT&T NoDo update, then you guys may be missing out on them...
Michael.
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If there are firmware updates of any importance for Samsung Focus phones I see two ways of getting them;
1. anyone who puchased their phones outside AT&T or any carrier(say on Amazon or retail store) I would think they would get the update through Zune or directly from Samsung seeing their phones are not "Branded" which is no different from our "debranded" phones..
2. Reverting back to 7008, use Samsung Registry Tool, rebranding AT&T and then getting NoDo with anything else AT&T is offering..
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1. anyone who puchased their phones outside AT&T or any carrier(say on Amazon or retail store) I would think they would get the update through Zune or directly from Samsung seeing their phones are not "Branded" which is no different from our "debranded" phones..
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I'm curious about this comment -- where can you get an unbranded Samsung Focus because I have yet to find one? Do they have the AT&T logo displayed below the earpiece and does it have the AT&T apps/fluff pre-loaded? If so, then that's not an unbranded phone.
Michael.
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I'm curious about this comment -- where can you get an unbranded Samsung Focus because I have yet to find one? Do they have the AT&T logo displayed below the earpiece and does it have the AT&T apps/fluff pre-loaded? If so, then that's not an unbranded phone.
Michael.
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Your right, I didn't realize the unlocked Focus phones being sold outside of AT&T with no contracts still has AT&T label.. Learn something new everyday..*
Guess the revert to 7008, rebrand and update is the only option, not sure what's going to happen to those who used the ChevronNoDoUpdateTool though???
http://www.zones.com/site/standard_page/index.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=145YANHV9PMWP39WG0K5
I'm in the ChevronNoDOUpdateTool boat and I'm guessing that we're going to have to fix it ourselves.
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I'm in the ChevronNoDOUpdateTool boat and I'm guessing that we're going to have to fix it ourselves.
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I doubt it, when MS asked Chris Walsh to pull the updater tool I got the feeling from comments by both MS & Mr. Walsh that both were going to look into a solution to correct the problem, let's face there is no way either MS or the Chevron team will let so many out in the cold on a new start up OS, there was something like 25,000 downloads of the tool..
Will people who got NoDo get this update?
I unbranded, updated, then rebranded.
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Will people who got NoDo get this update?
I unbranded, updated, then rebranded.
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My guess is your phone will be shown as Up To Date, I also imagine you can go into Zune and choose revert back to 7008 then you should be able to reupdate to AT&T's version.. Grant you this is only my opinion.. Going to be a interesting week for those who rebranded or used the Chevron Update Tool, especially with rumors of a upcoming Microsoft Update concerning Certificates..
I unbranded then updated via the VPN method then rebranded back. For some reason Zune isnt giving me the option to revert back so guess I will see what happens when they start rolling out the next updates.
I just connected my phone to Zune and it shows a Samsung update available. I am updating to it now. Looks like it saw I had the NODO then offered the samsung update.
This evening I went to the ATT store to get them to swap out my (GoPhone) micro-SIM for a new nano-SIM
Remembering a post over at AP (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...being-withheld-but-it-doesnt-actually-matter/) I asked the guy:
"I've heard that if I put an ATT SIM in my unlocked phone your netwrok will claim the phone as yours and then it'll be on your update schedule and not on Google's updates"
He said "That doesn't seem right, but let me ask" and goes in back.
Then he comes back out with a colleague, who confirms it.
That seems nuts.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone encounter it on their Nexus 6?
Thoughts?
edit for email sub. doooh!
We can always flash the OTA ourselves even if that does happen. I didn't notice that behavior on my Nexus 5, was it a Nexus 6 only thing?
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I think that is true only of a phone they they carry.... This phone not being sold through att they would never have an update for it
Your first mistake was believing what a clown working at a cell phone store said.
OTA updates are always released by carriers aren't they? In the case of these nexus phones they just don't mess with them I thought.
I'm sure I'm wrong...lol. It just seems like Sprint, for example, always seems to know ahead of time and releases a document about the OTAs.
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OTA updates are always released by carriers aren't they? In the case of these nexus phones they just don't mess with them I thought.
I'm sure I'm wrong...lol. It just seems like Sprint, for example, always seems to know ahead of time and releases a document about the OTAs.
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Carriers deliver their OTAs for phones that they sell and provide support for. But the Nexus OTAs come from teh Google themselves. Some folks were notified of the OTA on the 5x prior to installing a SIM, just being on wifi.
I had the N6 and bought it through AT&T and I can confirm that I never had to wait for an OTA update through the carrier. Those workers in the stores hardly ever know what they're talking about except their own talking points for each new phone to get you to buy it.
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Your first mistake was believing what a clown working at a cell phone store said.
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This. 99% of them don't even know what a "nexus" is either.
5x / 6p are not carrier phones and have nothing to do with this. You will receive ota's from google directly. Plus its a nexus, most owners are tweaking on their own anyways its why many of us buy this.
The OTA update you receive depends on which SIM card you have in the device. If you don't want a carrier specific OTA, remove your SIM and connect to WiFi when the OTA starts rolling out (assuming you are not on a carrier-specific build already).
Have a look at the Nexus 6 OTA update thread, and you'll see that there were separate builds for T-Mobile, Fi, Sprint, etc. Although unlikely it is possible that Google may not have them for the 5X.
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There are three separate downloads for the Nexus 5X already posted on the Google Dev website. They're not labeled like the Nexus 6.
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There are three separate downloads for the Nexus 5X already posted on the Google Dev website. They're not labeled like the Nexus 6.
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You're right. The first few builds for the 5X are not labeled like the later downloads for the N6. But neither were the first few downloads for the Nexus 6.
OK I'm in for confirmation as well. Currently have this and an MXPE. this will be instantly returned if that ends up being true (but I doubt)
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OK I'm in for confirmation as well. Currently have this and an MXPE. this will be instantly returned if that ends up being true (but I doubt)
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At the end of the day, it makes no difference anyway: all the images are provided and you can choose whichever one you want to flash. There's nothing stopping someone from flashing an AT&T build (if there ends up being one) on a Sprint device or vice-versa.
I found op's post on Google forums. Here's the reply he got
Welcome to the Nexus Help Forum.
Generally if you have a locked phone (i.e. works on a specific carrier like AT&T or Sprint), the AT&T rep is correct. You would be subject to any Android or phone updates from carrier. This is generally the case for recent Nexus locked phones like the Nexus 6 model.
However if you purchased an unlocked phone from the Google Store like the recent Nexus 5X and 6P, you should be able to receive your Android OS OTA updates directly from Google.
Alternatively, you do have the option of flashing a factory image from the Google Developers page directly to your Nexus 6 - thereby skipping the OTA updates from your carrier or Google. Flashing factory images is an option we recommend for users' who've had experience flashing their Android smartphones or tablets before. To find out more about this option, click on the link to the Google Developers website.
Hopefully this answers your question completely.
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JP
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I work at a tmobile store and two of my coworkers are also nexus users and on xda.
So although this may be common, there are exceptions such as my store
OP here. Called Google. They said these guys are mistaken and there's no way they are locking the phone to the network. Even if ATT were delaying the OTA updates for unlocked non-ATT phones, you could still get it over wifi.
As we thought.
Nexus phones receive OTA's from Google directly, not from the carrier.
I don't know if that can be said if you bought your Nexus from the carrier though. I've bought all my Nexus devices directly from Google.
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Nexus phones receive OTA's from Google directly, not from the carrier.
I don't know if that can be said if you bought your Nexus from the carrier though. I've bought all my Nexus devices directly from Google.
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OTA updates for Nexus devices used on Wi-Fi (i.e., used without a SIM card) come from Google. If you have any SIM card in your device, it comes from Google, but via the carrier. So, even if you bought your device from Google's website, your update will come via AT&T if you are using an AT&T SIM. This was figured out with the Nexus 6: those that had bought their device from Google and were using it with a T-Mobile SIM card received a different OTA update than those that bought their device from Google and were using it with an AT&T SIM card, and likewise with those that bought it from Google, but were using it with a Sprint SIM card.
The bottom line is that you will receive the OTA update which updates you to the "best" build for that carrier, if the builds are going to be indeed optimized on the 5X.
In any case though, it does not matter one bit, as the factory images are posted on Google's website, so, if you wish to flash a T-Mobile ROM while you are using a Sprint SIM, by all means, fill your boots.
I've had my Nexus 6p for 1 week and I have not received any OTA update notifications. I'm still running MDA89D (latest is MDB08M??)
I'm on Verizon (with a sim from my Note 4) and have not done any modifications to the phone yet (bootloader, root, etc)
Am I being too impatient? According to the factory images page, (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en) I'm already 3 releases behind??
Same for me, however I had to go get a new nano Sim from the Verizon store. I'm also not rooted/unlocked and have not received one update.
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2 phones here (one for me, one for my wife). Mine received an update but hers did not. Interestingly enough, however, mine was up and running without the sim card in it for a while prior to putting it in...I just don't understand how Verizon could be blocking anything...I mean the update comes through Google, not Verizon.
Maybe if there's continued reports of it I'll try stealing my wife's phone and removing the sim card to see if it immediately then gets an update. Sure is odd...
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2 phones here (one for me, one for my wife). Mine received an update but hers did not. Interestingly enough, however, mine was up and running without the sim card in it for a while prior to putting it in...I just don't understand how Verizon could be blocking anything...I mean the update comes through Google, not Verizon.
Maybe if there's continued reports of it I'll try stealing my wife's phone and removing the sim card to see if it immediately then gets an update. Sure is odd...
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Interesting. My nephew got his update the day he got the phone. He was running only on wireless because he did not have his Verizon sim card yet. I'm going to try pulling my sim and leaving it on wireless a while. I'll report back if I find anything interesting. Thanks!!
I completely set up my 6p on wifi for a day before getting my nano Sim installed, so no update for me in that respect either.
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Definitely some interesting results here. However, the nexus' updates are different in that OEM's and carriers are kind of "cut out" of the loop....the updates come from Google unless I'm completely missing something. So, my guess would be that maybe, like most updates in general, Google releases them in waves based off SN or IMEI numbers or whatever. I would say chances are good that in the next week or 2 it's hit a lot more devices. Time will tell!
I've been on wifi only since I've gotten my 6p two days ago and no update here. @ohlin5 might be right.
I haven't inserted vz sim yet at all. I received K update at first boot and then M update next day.
I am a bit confused because the help page from Google about system updates mentions that updates should come within 2 weeks of release, but could take longer depending on your carrier.
Not sure if my screenshot image is uploading or not. The quote from the help page is,
"Android updates: Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7, Nexus 9, and Nexus 10 devices get the latest version of Android directly from Google. These devices will receive Android version updates for at least two years from when the device first became available on the Google Store.
Once an update is available, it can take up to two weeks for it to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update."
So is Verizon involved or not? It's very confusing. And a bit disappointing to be so far behind on releases for a new Nexus. I've had my 6P for 5 days now on Verizon, but no update for me either. Still on MDA89D.
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I am a bit confused because the help page from Google about system updates mentions that updates should come within 2 weeks of release, but could take longer depending on your carrier.
Not sure if my screenshot image is uploading or not. The quote from the help page is,
"Android updates: Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7, Nexus 9, and Nexus 10 devices get the latest version of Android directly from Google. These devices will receive Android version updates for at least two years from when the device first became available on the Google Store.
Once an update is available, it can take up to two weeks for it to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update."
So is Verizon involved or not? It's very confusing. And a bit disappointing to be so far behind on releases for a new Nexus. I've had my 6P for 5 days now on Verizon, but no update for me either. Still on MDA89D.
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That's interesting....I wonder if it maybe has something to do with an update needing to be approved by a carrier, first? I honestly don't know that much about the process...I'm not sure if it just comes straight from Google, goes from Google to carriers for carrier certification and THEN Google ships it to those phones on that carrier, or if it just gets passed to the carrier and on to the phones on that carrier from the carrier themselves. Long story short it once again confirms that no wireless company sucks worse than Verizon. I suppose I should be happy that I even have a nexus with them but I can't bring myself to be grateful for them. Has anyone who hasn't gotten an update tried pulling your sim card and booting the phone up after that to see if it triggers any updates to come through? I feel like that information might help in troubleshooting.
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... Has anyone who hasn't gotten an update tried pulling your sim card and booting the phone up after that to see if it triggers any updates to come through? I feel like that information might help in troubleshooting.
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I tried pulling the sim and rebooting but still no update.
So ive had mine on Verizon for a week now from the moment i turned it on. I didn't know there was any updated available and i have been waiting for Wug NRT to update his toolkit for the N6P. i just noticed he did about an hour ago unlocked my bootloader and when it powered back up it had an update so i accepted it and when it rebooted im now running MDB08L ?! I haven't seen this version and on the Wug toolkit there is no option for it. Is this maybe an official build for Verizon? Has anyone else see this version or are running it on there device?
I had my 64 gb for a few days only on wifi and never had an update either
Never had an update either after two weeks with both the 5x and the 6p on Verizon. Ended up flashing the factory images myself since it is a nexus after all ☺
I've had mine for a few days now with no update...on Fi! I'm sure it's just Google staggering the deployment. For some reason, I always seem to be at the tail end of the staggering.
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You could always flash if you are impatient.
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So ive had mine on Verizon for a week now from the moment i turned it on. I didn't know there was any updated available and i have been waiting for Wug NRT to update his toolkit for the N6P. i just noticed he did about an hour ago unlocked my bootloader and when it powered back up it had an update so i accepted it and when it rebooted im now running MDB08L ?! I haven't seen this version and on the Wug toolkit there is no option for it. Is this maybe an official build for Verizon? Has anyone else see this version or are running it on there device?
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No Verizon doesn't build it's all Google. I believe the current complete build is K.
OTA Updates L & M I believe are the new Monthly Security Updates. (Update site doesen't include info on update content)
As L & M were released on same day expect to got from D to K to M.
That's what I think I know anyway. lol
It's an algorithm based on IMEI. You'll get it eventually. The carrier doesn't have anything to do with it.
I will agree it seems to be taking longer this time than usual and I usually got them late on my N5. I'm still on old build as well.
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Mine updated this afternoon!
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It's an algorithm based on IMEI. You'll get it eventually. The carrier doesn't have anything to do with it.
I will agree it seems to be taking longer this time than usual and I usually got them late on my N5. I'm still on old build as well.
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Actually the carrier does have something to do with it. They have to approve updates for phones on their networks, even if there is nothing for them to do with it. Better off just flashing them through twrp.
Did anyone get update with april patches...??? T-mobile already issued one which improves battery
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Did anyone get update with april patches...??? T-mobile already issued one which improves battery
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I still haven't received the March update. The people at the AT&T Corporate store and AT&T customer service didn't even know there was an update that should have been available until I showed them. And then they just scratched their heads and gave the old can response of, "maybe it's being rolled out in stages?" I then asked, "Who can I talk to to find out when I will receive it?" and either they didn't know or they claimed to know...but people were not allowed to talk to them.
So, I'm guessing this update might come out around this time next year from AT&T.
I KNEW I should have bought a T-mobile device and just unlocked to use on AT&T since that's the carrier my family is on.....and yes, i'm still waiting on the March security update. Maybe i'll get that one in June and the April one in Dec. :/
There is no march patch.. there was an update released on march 18 but it still had february patches...
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There is no march patch.. there was an update released on march 18 but it still had february patches...
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Regardless, the update changed the Baseband Version from APB5 to APC2. The MYAT&T app clearly shows that it should be available. My phone is still on the APB5 baseband and I can not get the update from any method. I have not received an OTA notification, manually checking for it shows me up to date, and Samsung switch tells me no update is available. So an update was released in March but me (and apparently others) can't get it. The only thing I haven't tried in the Samsung Experience at BestBuy.
This is the reason, I am thinking that (at least some people) probably won't see an update from AT&T like the one Tmobile just got for a long time.
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Regardless, the update changed the Baseband Version from APB5 to APC2. The MYAT&T app clearly shows that it should be available. My phone is still on the APB5 baseband and I can not get the update from any method. I have not received an OTA notification, manually checking for it shows me up to date, and Samsung switch tells me no update is available. So an update was released in March but me (and apparently others) can't get it. The only thing I haven't tried in the Samsung Experience at BestBuy.
This is the reason, I am thinking that (at least some people) probably won't see an update from AT&T like the one Tmobile just got for a long time.
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@Scott.. are you using an at&t sim or other carrier sim in your phone?
kvsandeepreddy said:
@Scott.. are you using an at&t sim or other carrier sim in your phone?
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AT&T Sim. Everything checks out with the phone and sim. I've talked to AT&T customer service on the phone and brought the phone into a local AT&T corporate retail store and both times they said the phone and account were fine. They also both claimed to not know about any updates until I showed / told them about it. Then, they just scratched their heads and gave me the old, "well...maybe it's just being rolled out in stages?" But neither could tell me who to contact to confirm if that was the case or not. Basically, they are clueless about their own products.
scott14719 said:
I still haven't received the March update. The people at the AT&T Corporate store and AT&T customer service didn't even know there was an update that should have been available until I showed them. And then they just scratched their heads and gave the old can response of, "maybe it's being rolled out in stages?" I then asked, "Who can I talk to to find out when I will receive it?" and either they didn't know or they claimed to know...but people were not allowed to talk to them.
So, I'm guessing this update might come out around this time next year from AT&T.
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scott14719 said:
Regardless, the update changed the Baseband Version from APB5 to APC2. The MYAT&T app clearly shows that it should be available. My phone is still on the APB5 baseband and I can not get the update from any method. I have not received an OTA notification, manually checking for it shows me up to date, and Samsung switch tells me no update is available. So an update was released in March but me (and apparently others) can't get it. The only thing I haven't tried in the Samsung Experience at BestBuy.
This is the reason, I am thinking that (at least some people) probably won't see an update from AT&T like the one Tmobile just got for a long time.
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scott14719 said:
AT&T Sim. Everything checks out with the phone and sim. I've talked to AT&T customer service on the phone and brought the phone into a local AT&T corporate retail store and both times they said the phone and account were fine. They also both claimed to not know about any updates until I showed / told them about it. Then, they just scratched their heads and gave me the old, "well...maybe it's just being rolled out in stages?" But neither could tell me who to contact to confirm if that was the case or not. Basically, they are clueless about their own products.
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Then i think best buy will be your best bet next...
I will be going back to india in 10days.. hopefully we ll get the update by then.. if not i wont be getting any more otas
kvsandeepreddy said:
Then i think best buy will be your best bet next...
I will be going back to india in 10days.. hopefully we ll get the update by then.. if not i wont be getting any more otas
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Guessing you can't put your phone into airplane mode, connect a VPN in the US, and download it that way?
psufan5 said:
Guessing you can't put your phone into airplane mode, connect a VPN in the US, and download it that way?
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Nope... when you check for software updates.. the server checks for the sim before it issues the ota.. if we dont have the carrier sim it simply says your phone doesnt have any updates
anyone gone to best buy's samsung experience kiosk yet to check and see if the April update is available there?
kvsandeepreddy said:
Nope... when you check for software updates.. the server checks for the sim before it issues the ota.. if we dont have the carrier sim it simply says your phone doesnt have any updates
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I purchased my S7 at BestBuy about 2 weeks ago and the next day came back to Uruguay(South America). Then I saw online the March 18th update which also updated the baseband.
I tried to update it mannually but as it was mentioned it didn't work because the SIM is not from AT&T.
I have an AT&T SIM card that came with the phone but is not activated, do you think that placing that SIM card in the phone and trying the update will work?
Plane mode also?
I'm starting to get desperate on this phone because when I bought it I didn't know about this AT&T stupid policy about the updates.
Thanks.
Socotroco said:
I purchased my S7 at BestBuy about 2 weeks ago and the next day came back to Uruguay(South America). Then I saw online the March 18th update which also updated the baseband.
I tried to update it mannually but as it was mentioned it didn't work because the SIM is not from AT&T.
I have an AT&T SIM card that came with the phone but is not activated, do you think that placing that SIM card in the phone and trying the update will work?
Plane mode also?
I'm starting to get desperate on this phone because when I bought it I didn't know about this AT&T stupid policy about the updates.
Thanks.
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Im in the same boat as you are.. i dont think we ll get any updates without at&t activated sim to receive the otas..
The only thing we can do is sideload the ota update from people who have already received the update..
But that means people with s7 edge on at&t should share the ota as soon as they download it without updating it... if they update the phone the phone deletes the update..
kvsandeepreddy said:
Im in the same boat as you are.. i dont think we ll get any updates without at&t activated sim to receive the otas..
The only thing we can do is sideload the ota update from people who have already received the update..
But that means people with s7 edge on at&t should share the ota as soon as they download it without updating it... if they update the phone the phone deletes the update..
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if you wanna sideload you'll need to unlock the bootloader. as far as I can tell, the galaxy s7 is locked tight!
rogerchew said:
if you wanna sideload you'll need to unlock the bootloader. as far as I can tell, the galaxy s7 is locked tight!
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Cant we flash the update with odin?
kvsandeepreddy said:
Cant we flash the update with odin?
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correct me if i'm wrong, but I always thought ODIN was for flashing full rom images, not updates. At least when I used it was mostly factory default images that Samsung/ATT already released.
rogerchew said:
correct me if i'm wrong, but I always thought ODIN was for flashing full rom images, not updates. At least when I used it was mostly factory default images that Samsung/ATT already released.
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Oh!! I thought we could flash it through odin.. my bad!!
Why is the sammobile site not listing at&t version whereas even the tmobile recent firmware is also listed...
AT&T is one of the carriers notorious for not releasing firmware for developers to tinker with.
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AT&T is one of the carriers notorious for not releasing firmware for developers to tinker with.
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So not much hope to get the rom to sideload it, AT&T is the worst... I have already published my S7 on internet, hope to be able to sell it quick and get an 'F' version.
Thanks for your help.
I hate waiting for updates...