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Possible Nexus Camera "Issue"

So I like most everything about my nexus but the way it takes pictures. Its not so much a real issue because it doesn't prevent the camera from working.. but it seems the chip/sensor they used for the camera gives a red spot in all pictures in the center of the image, most noticeably in pictures with a white or light background/image. I'll attach a picture so everyone else can confirm what I mean... I was hoping we could get HTC to replace the phones that have this issue via the warranty as this seems to be an issue with many nexus ones (based on a couple of reviews and the pictures they provided there). Here's my sample picture. You can also see it on screen when looking at what you're going to take a picture of.
Also I do research in a lab and its a procedure for an experiment I'm doing... just realized what I was posting might seem odd... didn't really read it before posting.

It is a software issue, so they are not going to do a warranty replacement. Droid had the same deal with it, seems to be something with the base 2.0/1 Android framework, I am sure it will be fixed when google releases their bug fix update(don't ask when, no legit idea beyond guessing sometime around the start of February, since that seems to be the typical timeline with phone bug updates, about 30 days after launch the first update is released).

Correction. It's a HARDWARE issue. Dont believe me? leave your cammera on for a couple minutes.. Goes away right? Its cuz droid camera was the same.. or similar? They had a bad batch. Mine has no pink eye(N1) =>

The Droid's issue was partially a software problem...
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/17/motorola-droid-camera-autofocus-fixed-in-secrecy/
As well, it is a "who really knows?"
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=10749
It seems many phones, with different camera's and so forth are having this issue... CCD seems to be the manufacturer of all the sensors, though, so perhaps there is a problem with the firmware from CCD causing this?
I highly doubt that every single camera sensor ever made by this company happens to have this sort of issue due to hardware. That would be pretty insane! However, if it was a firmware issue, then it would be present in every handset that uses a CCD manufactured/firmware supported camera, and this seems to be the case.
As well, it has already been stated the HD2 will get an update that fixes it. Hopefully the Nexus One is in the same boat. I didn't notice it on the test unit I used, but I asked the current tester if it was happening, and on all 3 it is present. It isn't noticeable in most pictures, though, especially with the flash on, FXcamera set to the proper white balance, and so forth.

EVERY Nexus One you get will have this issue. IT IS SOFTWARE. My N1 has it, the replacement I got has it too.

I've just taken a load of pictures and no pink from what I can see with both flash on and off.
Took pictures of a white surface and no pink. Must be hardware.
EDIT: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCNKM3fOF452TyQE&feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...authkey=Gv1sRgCNKM3fOF452TyQE&feat=directlink

Do you have any camera apps installed? FXcamera with proper white balance settings(sometimes auto is perfect, sometimes you have to do it manually) makes it go away a lot of the time too.

Eh Hem.. Guys are you all forgetting that my N1 DOES NOT HAVE PINK EYE

From what I understand this is a hardware issue. This was also present in an earlier HTC phone (I think the HD2) running a different OS altogether.

yes this was a widespread issue on the HD2... and it was completley fixed by a SOFTWARE UPDATE! >.<

A cursory search of the words "hd2 pink camera issue" on Google seems to imply that this is actually a hardware issue.
Edit: The source of the confusion http://www.redmondpie.com/fix-pink-camera-problem-on-htc-hd2-9140202/:
HTC first confirmed it as an hardware issue but then later they found out that it was infact a software issue, rather than a hardware one.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/a_hardware_fault_causes_htc_hd2_*pink*_camera_issues_confirmed-news-1276.php
I believe the SOFTWARE update is just overcorrecting the blue/green settings on the center of the camera (Guess...) to cancel out the HARDWARE problem with YOUR camera. But again.. It is a Hardware issue for sure. Sorry guys xD I win!
I wouldnt trust htc if you ask them though.. I dont think they are certain what planet they are on half the time.. I asked about how they know that I unlocked my bootloader and his answer was basically.. voodoo. Soooo yaaahhhh... Notice that the cameras are the same for droid HD2 and Nexus one? and those are the only 3 with the issue? Not the G1 with ported software? => hardware folks

flamerider88 said:
I wouldnt trust htc if you ask them though.. I dont think they are certain what planet they are on half the time.. I asked about how they know that I unlocked my bootloader and his answer was basically.. voodoo.
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You asked someone in support; customer support for any company is always uninformed. These aren't the people making press releases or even official forum posts.

flamerider88 said:
I believe the SOFTWARE update is just overcorrecting the blue/green settings on the center of the camera...
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I agree, just because the manufacturer releases a software fix doesn't mean its a software problem to begin with.
The first day I had the phone, I really noticed the pink spot. Yesterday I took 30 pictures, I didn't notice it at all. Today If I look hard enough I think I see a little tiny pink, viewing the image of a white piece of paper in the same place (office) I first tested the camera.

Yeah I noticed this too. It only really shows up if I take pictures of white paper or a white wall. Every other normal pic I take turns out fine but I do hope they can fix it with a software update... wouldn't be too hard.

dinan said:
Yeah I noticed this too. It only really shows up if I take pictures of white paper or a white wall. Every other normal pic I take turns out fine but I do hope they can fix it with a software update... wouldn't be too hard.
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My n1 has it too. Ive tried it now in room with room light and it gives this violett spot when i tak a picture with automatic colorbalance, if i put room light as colorbalance there is no spot...

google already knows about that issue and a fix will be released!
"I have great news! The issue has been fixed and should be included in the next update to Android. I say "should" because things can change at the last minute. Keep an eye on your notification bar for a system update."
source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7a22ebb69da2b253&hl=en#all

navahoo said:
google already knows about that issue and a fix will be released!
"I have great news! The issue has been fixed and should be included in the next update to Android. I say "should" because things can change at the last minute. Keep an eye on your notification bar for a system update."
source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7a22ebb69da2b253&hl=en#all
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I followed the link, but didn't see the response you quoted...?

flarbear said:
I followed the link, but didn't see the response you quoted...?
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That's because it was removed by Google. I read it this afternoon. Is not there any longer. The Google employee was "Tommy" and you can't find his posts any more.
You can read other people's response to his post but his don't show up any longer.

well, that post is very hopeful. i suppose all we can do is hope for the best. i dont know if google deleting the post is good or bad though

Froyo Touch Screen Fix?

I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?

halorin said:
I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?
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I saw someone on here posting a quote about the multi-touch fix... lemme find it
by Paul22000:
Also "A scale gesture detector API provides improved definition of multi-touch events."
I wonder if that means the N1's multitouch axes will be fixed for gaming!

halorin said:
I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?
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since nobody has froyo yet, we dont know if it was fixed or not. i really hope they did though.

Thanks for the responses, guys. I guess in hindsight it might have been good to leave out any negative things in such a positive conference.
But still, some mention would have been comforting.

halorin said:
Thanks for the responses, guys. I guess in hindsight it might have been good to leave out any negative things in such a positive conference.
But still, some mention would have been comforting.
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I feel the same way halorin. It's natural to voice displeasure over something important missed in an update (I would have loved 360* rotation, colored trackball, fm radio, etc) but I know your happy about the update when it does occur and a great guy to have on the forum
All progress is still progress toward perfection, no matter how small.

Thing is, they were just demoing the OS, not device specific things like the N1's trackball & whether it has working FM etc.

Very valid point, Rusty.

Yup, each device will have their own seperate updates with device exclusive things.

Rusty! said:
Thing is, they were just demoing the OS, not device specific things like the N1's trackball & whether it has working FM etc.
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*in Kramer voice* ........ you just blew my mind...

ap3604 said:
I saw someone on here posting a quote about the multi-touch fix... lemme find it
by Paul22000:
Also "A scale gesture detector API provides improved definition of multi-touch events."
I wonder if that means the N1's multitouch axes will be fixed for gaming!
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That quote is from the highlights web page:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
The axis problem can never be fixed 100% because the hardware doesn't report enough info to do it for all cases, but currently it is pretty bad and I think better drivers/software could get it close. I believe that Cyanogen's ROMs have had some tweaks that have greatly improved its responsiveness for some time now so perhaps the Android engineers adopted similar fixes. It will hopefully get good enough over time that you'd have to know exactly how the sensors work and deliberately try to fool the drivers in order to get it confused.

I tested a nexus one on froyo today at google i/o, some things that were absent, colored track ball, touch screen wise they didn't have any multi touch analysis program installed, but just pinching around I don't detect any notable differences, so i'm guessing no to those 2 features on nexus, at least on their current build

I was also at I/O and while I did play with a few different Nexus Ones that were loaded with FroYo, I was unable to determine if any screen fixes were applied.
I asked a few times and each time I was politely told that they could not talk about anything that was not already made public (fair enough btw).
However, pinching and zooming on maps seemed to be smoother (not sure if it just my impression or some actual change) and it seemed to respond overall to my finger movements more smoothly.
Also, some games that I demoed on a few different Nexus Ones did employ finger gestures and those games functioned flawlessly from the touch perspective.
I am not sure that translates into any real fix or just my biases, but I am putting it out here for whatever it is worth.
Dan

dan1431 said:
I was also at I/O and while I did play with a few different Nexus Ones that were loaded with FroYo...
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Did you notice if there was 360 rotation? ie could you flip it from 12 to 3 O'Clock clockwise and get it to rotate to landscape when in a rotating app like Maps?

logger said:
Did you notice if there was 360 rotation? ie could you flip it from 12 to 3 O'Clock clockwise and get it to rotate to landscape when in a rotating app like Maps?
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I hate to admit this, but I did not even think about testing that feature.
Dan

Dorick said:
I tested a nexus one on froyo today at google i/o, some things that were absent, colored track ball, touch screen wise they didn't have any multi touch analysis program installed, but just pinching around I don't detect any notable differences, so i'm guessing no to those 2 features on nexus, at least on their current build
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Dorick, by any chance have you noticed wifi-n connection?

I'm almost certain from the API improvement and UI modifications listed on the Android SDK site that we have a software fix for the crazy multitouch issue.
Having said that, it means the screen won't go crazy when the paths "swap". But, it's still limited to two touchpoints and not 10 like the 3000 series screen.
A fix is a fix though. =)

Personally if the have fixed up pinch zooming somewhat and made it smoother that will cover me 99% of the way as I use the device so that will be pretty much a fix assuming we actually see it in the official N1 rom.

Quick handson for android 2.1 on X10

Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAr0_24-nk
here the download link of untouched X10 handson: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9299167/00244.MTS
but please don't reupload anywhere else! or it will be the first and last time i upload an untouched video

Please post in General Section.
Besides, i see only a white picture...

I only see a white picture also.

the_black_dragon said:
Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
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Thanks
*10 chars*

Maybe the flash starts like the comment above picture :
starts @ 3:40
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SORRY GUYS
it was my mistake
now it should work.....
if it is in the wrong section please would a mod move it?

The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...

chandyperry said:
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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hmm yes sorry..... this is my new news portal and i still have not much experience in such things so i missed a lot of things.....
- looking for live wallpaper
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)

chandyperry said:
The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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Use 1080p and full screen.

Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?

You should of had a laptop in your bag and dumped the Rom
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tvachev said:
Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?
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It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.

the_black_dragon said:
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)
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ehm... since it's not possible because of hardware limitations, you can stop looking...

black_math said:
It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.
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Thanks a lot. Did not know this.
@the_black_dragon thanks for the video

No Youtube access at work so with my X10!

Well thank you for video mate, thumbs up.
Andreas

Thanks for the video!

ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter

Bored God said:
ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter
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FFS when will people understand that multitouch will NEVER come to the x10 - it is not possible since the hardware doesn't support it!!

much faster!!!
and it seems that you can use 2 exchange accounts.... one with android itselve and one with Moxier mail that's nice....
ne new tab in Timescape is XING!

Removing 65k color limit?

Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.

jagger2k said:
someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.
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There was a discussion about this back in 2010: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807307
Some say its 262K. Others 265K or 16M. It's all very vague.

According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366

I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.

shadiku said:
I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.
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Seriously, it's the only thing holding me back from using this phone full-time. You can see a great example of it in the widgets.

I agree, widgets look terrible, specifically news and weather widgets (genie.apk), power control, etc (anything with the black gradient background).
However, they only look bad on some launchers (on launcher pro, for example, with high quality scrolling turned on, widgets look exactly how they are meant to look - somehow launcher pro manages to 'smooth' the gradient).
I think this should be made a priority as the banding is very visible in many apps, and especially when watching videos on the device. It is very noticeable in the new gingerbread ROMs, which make use of more subtle gradients (take the notifications bar, the phone application for example) - fixing this issue would bring android on the HD2 up to a whole new level!
I'm going to do some digging and see what I can find...

i dont think we can improve the screen to much higher than what is meant to be.if you have a normal plasma tv.you cant watch 3d movies from it,because it was not intended for 3d.same thing with the hd2 screen.

justwonder said:
According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
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But isnt that always MS's way of looking at things, being conservative opposed to using the capabilities? MS has never used anything to its fullest capacity, they are always on the reserved side so to them less means better compatibility and less issues. I wouldnt go based on MS's articles or opinions, I think the best to answer the screen capability would be HTC - the maker.
But thats just my opinion.

For me, some sense builds look more colorful than others do.
is it possible that these builds make use of the displays capability?
Cause when I use Froyo everything seems to be paler and less colorful.
And its not just the wallpaper..

This is a concern of mine aswell, I hope it really is not a hardware limitation
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MS said that LEO suqqort 262k.
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I thought that limitation was just because that's all WM6.5 could handle. I'd be surprised if the screen couldn't handle 16.7million colours. It's just a standard TFT device after all.
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?

jonboyuk said:
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?
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Maybe it was regulated somewhere in IPL or SPL? Because we just use IPL, SPL and radio to boot android...

Galaxy S II Unresolved Bugs Thread

The purpose of this thread is to consolidate a list of all the bugs in the Galaxy S II which are yet to be fixed by Samsung.
At the outset, kudos to Samsung for not only bringing us this awesome phone but also showing its commitment to support it by bringing out frequent updates (3 in the last month itself)!!! Some bugs which are found in various forums and threads are yet to be fixed.
So I thought to start this thread so that (maybe & hopefully) someone from Samsung support can look into this and address these in the next update(s)...
So here are some that I know of...please add yours (I will try update the first post with all), and also post if any of these are resolved so that I can delete them from the first post.
Definition of bug (for purpose of this thread) - is a bug which is widely acknowledged and reported as occurring in the stock firmware - and does not includ bugs experienced by only some users (which could be due to specific apps installed by such users).
These bugs exist as of update KWE7...
1. Android OS using up battery - still shows to use as much as 20% of battery
2. Third party keyboards (such as Swiftkey, Gingerbread KB, Smartkeyboard) - text prediction does not work in default email app - compose mode (probably because the field is defined incorrectly in the firmware).
3. Slight lag in waking up from lock screen.

Random restarts. Used my tracks to track a six hour walk this morning only to find the phone had restarted just before we got back to the car. This resulted in all the data being lost. Not impressed!
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Folders not updating as shortcuts on homescreen

Regarding random restarts I haven't had a single one in over two weeks of constant use. Perhaps it's caused by an installed app rather than anything provided by Samsung?
As for my gripe, the classic wifi signal strength would be the main one although it doesn't really effect my use of wifi so it's no massive deal. Another issue would be how hot this thing can get but short of underclocking the CPU I can't see how that could be properly resolved.
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Banding on gradients UNACCEPTABLE.
GPS not accurate compared to other phones (might not be fixable with software).

Text editing in browser with landscape mode

Dannyboyni said:
GPS not accurate compared to other phones (might not be fixable with software).
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where did that come from?
i read a lot of users/critics impressions and the gps seemed fine

Define a bug.
A few users have or all users have the problem.
jje
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Dannyboyni said:
Banding on gradients UNACCEPTABLE.
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I also agree, how come the banding is so obvious on this. The screen is great, a very nice upgrade to the previous amoled. It would be nice to really see no banding on a screen this caliber...I know it can be fixed with a software update, but still. Bad samsung, baaad!
And one bug that would be nice to fix is the wake up lag of the lockscreen. Mine takes 1-2 seconds depending on the situation. Tends to get a bit annoying.

I thought the banding was due to the depth currently being 16bit. Quite why Samsung released the phone with this colour depth is another thing but if it's true either Samsung themselves or a custom rom will change that eventually.

bbqnelli said:
where did that come from?
i read a lot of users/critics impressions and the gps seemed fine
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My GPS works just fine...
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Incredibly hard to put cursor in specific spot in browser

gvoima said:
and one bug that would be nice to fix is the wake up lag of the lockscreen. Mine takes 1-2 seconds depending on the situation. Tends to get a bit annoying.
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+1 .

Dannyboyni said:
GPS not accurate compared to other phones (might not be fixable with software).
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I am finding that in Berlin or on the O2 network, my SGS2 is quite slow at pinpointing my position. My old iPhone 3G was about the same speed and did a better job at finding where I am.

anshkhanna said:
These bugs exist as of update KWE7...
2. Third party keyboards (such as Swiftkey, Gingerbread KB, Smartkeyboard) - text prediction does not work in default email app - compose mode (probably because the field is defined incorrectly in the firmware).
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I am on KWE2 (battery usage is 80% for Android OS) and I rely on third party keyboards as I require Catalan. I haven't found one yet that really works well.

Pagnell said:
I thought the banding was due to the depth currently being 16bit. Quite why Samsung released the phone with this colour depth is another thing but if it's true either Samsung themselves or a custom rom will change that eventually.
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Yeah it's not a display issue, more of a software issue which I'm sure supercurio will work his magic on.
Not had any of the bugs the OP had put forward, still working through battery life and the colour banding is annoying but apart from that this phone has been awesome, never had a random reboot either.
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One unresolved issue is that Samsung doesn't provide an update method other then using Windows. I haven't got Windows nor will I have a Windows machine. I know I am not the only one either.

Did a quick search and couldn't find this...
If I create a calendar appointment on my phone, and set a reminder, it doesn't appear until I clear the ram from within task manager!
Weird eh!

urbanomad said:
One unresolved issue is that Samsung doesn't provide an update method other then using Windows. I haven't got Windows nor will I have a Windows machine. I know I am not the only one either.
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What he said. I'm using ubuntu.
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The stock calculator % button doesn't work properly...I need that :-(