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TF3D Music Player problem

hi there
ive synced my hd with wmp and all my songs etc are on there fine in mobile wmp. all the individual songs show up on the songs tab in the tf3d music player as well but my problem is when i go to the artists tab, it shows enough artists to fill the screen but when i finger scroll to go further down, the list just disappears, like theres only the first 10 or so artists and then theres nothing.
has anyone else had this problem?
ive resynced a couple of times, deleted the audiomanager.vol file etc but still the same problem. plus it takes over 2hrs to sync so i dont want to do it that often. have over 2000 tracks.
cheers for any help

just bumping up to get help

i got the same problem... but what doesnt work in my player is the current playlist and songs...
just uploaded a vid 1 minute ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZZF-Vm-lrQ

Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
I know this is not a great help, but you should really try CorePlayer. It has a media library, which works quite well .

i have coreplayer and use it for videos but for music (normally also for vids but wmp suxx rele bad [-> codecs]) i always prefered the built-in player.. usually u only listen with shuffle coz i need variety ^.-
i just dont wanna use an extra player coz its an extra app and i wanna avoid that as far as possible.
what i really miss is a hardware button or something like that to chance to the next song.. i used a sony ericsson w850i walkman phone for the last 2 years and i could use the volume buttons (long press) to navigate through the playlist without turning the display on, thats hell useful when its in the pocket, especially when ur riding a bike.
johnpatcher said:
Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
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well.. since its not possible to even chose the music dir (seems to must be in <root>/music) the player should be designed to handle any amount of data. i only have 300 songs on there atm. usually i would have, like kauka187, 2000+ =)
i really hope there will be a good firmware update very soon...

johnpatcher said:
Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
I know this is not a great help, but you should really try CorePlayer. It has a media library, which works quite well .
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Yeah youre prob right about the amount of data.
ive got coreplayer to watch movies and s2p when i want to find a specific song (since theres no search function in built in the tf3d music player WTF!) to play so i guess they will have to do for now until htc hopefully comes up with an update because i really like the look and finger friendliness of their player.

N!ghty said:
i got the same problem... but what doesnt work in my player is the current playlist and songs...
just uploaded a vid 1 minute ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZZF-Vm-lrQ
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just watched your vid and yeah i have exactly the same prob but like you said, my issue is in the artist tab.
you never know, some bright spark in this community may be able to come up with a fix

This seems to be a bug, I discovered it too with about 3000 songs on the player (which required a softreset for anything to show up in the TF3D menu)
It seems that when you try to scrol down, it snaps back to above the first artist.
When it happend to me I could get back to the other artists if I just scrolled down again.
There's still quite some bugs in the TF3D Player and I wouldn't mind replacing that tab with Coreplayer or WMP itself.

JanSchotsmans said:
I wouldn't mind replacing that tab with Coreplayer or WMP itself.
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is that possible? cos i would quite like that

I also have a problem in a ambum with 2 cds the music appears mixed, cd1 musics with cd2 music and are not for correct order, track 3 appears first then track1 for example. I have the collection correct numbered with correct music id. any idea to correct this and appear first track 1 of the cd1 then track2 and only when cd1 is over then starts cd2. Thanks sorry the english.

any idea please.

im going for a cooked rom... but i wanna hav language changeable to german and i learned that thats not the case on most :\
other than that (if that even fixes the problem) i havnt found a solution :|

N!ghty said:
im going for a cooked rom... but i wanna hav language changeable to german and i learned that thats not the case on most :\
other than that (if that even fixes the problem) i havnt found a solution :|
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if a cooked rom does fix the prob could you report back here please. thanks

I may have just found a solution to some of the problems with the TF3D music player.
I loaded a bunch of new tracks onto my storage card via the USB cable earlier and edited some of the artist/album details on the tracks I added. The TF3D music player wasn't recognising the new tracks or the changes I'd made to the existing tracks. A soft reset didn't solve the problem. Removing and re-adding TF3D to the Today screen didn't solve the problem. The wrong details were still shown in the player. (As well as this, the Playlists tab wasn't working at all and I couldn't queue up new songs to play.)
Removing and re-inserting the SD card while the list of artists was showing on the HD's screen, however, HAS forced it to re-index the music on the card and now it's all perfect again. Perhaps someone else with a problem could try this?
Sequence:
- copy tracks to the card over the USB lead, or update artist/album details
- unplug USB cable
- go to Artists list in TF3D music library (leave TouchHD turned on)
- remove SD card
- list of artists is erased from screen
- insert SD card
- after a few seconds the list of artists is rebuilt correctly
Report back your results!

did just like you said and the list is built up again, but the list of songs and the now playing list still won't scroll..

yer me 2... just re-inserted the memory card but problem still occurs
the only thing i can think of is an encryption problem in the tags.. i used the musicbrains global database to tag my entire music in order to remove all problems in the tags. but since my tags are ALL tagged the exact same way i got trouble finding the problem ^^

Same problem here!
I had to rebuild my artist-list through updating in WMP. But problems remains to be solved...
I have 860 songs on my card, and it fails to scroll through Albums and All Songs.
Only Artists works.
I believe though, that it is a problem that HTC should solve, and not us. This is not an improvement, tweak or anything else.
This is a real error in the Player!

I tried to describe the problem to the technical support at HTC.
When (if) they respond, I will let you know.

awesome cheers

Update on problem and HTC Tech Support:
HTC has replied to my request, and their recommendation is to clean the card, and then sync it all again through WMP11.
I followed the procedure, but the problem remains (
Only positive thing, however, is that I now have A LOT more album covers!
I'll be back later...

Slow Music Player

I love my HD2 but the HTC music player is really slow when having lots of music (a 16 Gb card with maybe 1500 songs or so). It takes maybe 15-30 seconds before it is ready to use. Is this normal and is there any way to improve the speed?

I have the same problem very annoying. And slow to scroll through music in song view

Even worse is that it seems to do some rescan of all the music everytime you wake the phone, if the music tab is active, so you can't do anything until its finished. Very annoying.

Same for me with my 16Gb card. There should be an option to update manually instead of always automatically. Grr! I will still continue to use it though because the whole library and album selection is the best I've ever used on a WM Phone. Very comparable to the iPhone if not better IMO

My music player stopt after 20/30 sec. Anyone have noticed this problem?
It's driving my nuts

Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.

Toss3 said:
Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.
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so you are telling that we need to put all music in one folder and that will speed up Mplayer??? i've got same problem with mine as well.

i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?

And what about the cover art if you keep the music in just a few folders? I did a try to speed things up by removing all *.jpg files and instead only use the embedded cover arts (My thought was that few files must mean a faster scan). That mostly resulted in me loosing coverarts on a lot of albums (Even due they have embedded pictures) so I guess there are some limitations in the use of embedded pictures?

thats strange i only got embedded covers and they work. Which programm did you use? i used mp3tag...

elburna said:
i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?
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As long as you don't keep all of your music in the same folder it's going to load up quickly.

This is a repost from me in another thread about the same problem:
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I have experienced exactly the same problem and found a way to solve it. I had over 500 MP3 songs in one folder on a microSD card. Playing them was terrible, the same problems you mention: stutter, freezing, buffering and the entire phone seemed to be unresponsive at times.
Then I played a very large MP3 file (about 1 hour in length) and I had no troubles at all. That surprised me, because I expected (because of the constant buffering) this would not play at all. What suddenly hit me was that this large file was the only MP3 file in a separate folder.
So I moved a couple songs (which stuttered very much) to another folder and they played without any problem.
The solution I used was this: I deleted the single folder with to over 500 MP3's and added the songs through the Media Player of my PC. This way, the folder structure in the music folder is: Artist/Album/Songs. So every single folder with songs contains only a few MP3 files.
After that I let the Media Player rescan the microSD card. All the songs were detected and they all play without any worry.
Best regards,
Willem (Netherlands)

Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.

jonboyuk said:
Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.

jonboyuk said:
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Mine is also a Sandisk 16GB. I can't imagine you would need a high class microSD card, since all it needs to do is relatively easy reading straight forward files. It would be different if you needed to save enormous amounts of data.
And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
EDIT: I used the same microSD card with the same songs in a HD (Blackstone) without problems...
Willem

Toss3 said:
Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.
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Thought so! As I said my file structure is properly created by Windows Media Player 12, /music/artist/album being the structure and it still lags like hell!

Willem59 said:
And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!

jonboyuk said:
Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!
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Why don't you try and see for yourself. I had over 1000 songs in one folder to begin with and noticed that it took almost 30 seconds for the music player to even start. I then thought I'd try moving them around a bit and noticed that the load times were cut to two seconds and that the lag was gone once I had moved them to folders with no more than 50 songs in each. You also notice the speed increase in adding music files to windows media player's playlist.

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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
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Nope, the lag, stutter and buffering only happens when I do have hundreds of files in 1 folder.
Since I have put the songs on the SDcard through Windows (7) Media Player (12) everything is fine.
Willem

Their is two part to the solution:
1) Don't put all the files in the same folder (if you sync using WMP, it may do so)
2) Format your SD card.... but using the "Format SD Card" utility on the phone (Start menu => Tools => Format SD Card in WWE ROM). This very help me (and my phone).. And now, it's only a little long after a soft reset, when going in the music tab for the first time

Very slow sense music player

Hey,
My hd2 is very slow in playing music. I've made a video from it to show you guys: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWbrBNKJ5wc
I have about a 1000 songs in my library each in a different folder by artist.
Can anyone help me?
Thank you in advance

Ive got 480 songs and mine also takes dat much time to load..... only on Khol,s rom (1 Gz hack) it would load instantly

Does anyone have any solution?

Try Nitrogen?

Teardrop45 said:
Ive got 480 songs and mine also takes dat much time to load..... only on Khol,s rom (1 Gz hack) it would load instantly
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i have 484 songs, and it most certainly dit NOT load instantly on kholk's roms, not the latest nor any of the previous ones.
The 1Ghz Hack, has been proven to the satisfaction of many, to be a fake.

g.lewarne said:
i have 484 songs, and it most certainly dit NOT load instantly on kholk's roms, not the latest nor any of the previous ones.
The 1Ghz Hack, has been proven to the satisfaction of many, to be a fake.
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So does everyone have the same problem as me? I can't find much from this problem on google, strange.

glennvho said:
Hey,
My hd2 is very slow in playing music. I've made a video from it to show you guys: youtube.com/watch?v=WWbrBNKJ5wc (just put www. in front of the link to view it, I can't post a direct link because I'm new here.)
I have about a 1000 songs in my library each in a different folder by artist.
Can anyone help me?
Thank you in advance
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Take everthing off your storage card and back it up, reformat your storage card fat32 32kb size reload all your stuff back on your card and let me know if it's faster!

DT39 said:
Take everthing off your storage card and back it up, reformat your storage card fat32 32kb size reload all your stuff back on your card and let me know if it's faster!
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I tried this but sadly no improvement at all.
But thanks for the help.

Does anyone have any idea how to fix this problem?

I have the same issue, so I don´t use music tab any more, I use Slide2play, works great and I can switch from music player, desktop and navigator with taskfacade.

I agree this is a very annoying problem. The problem is that each time you do a soft reset the music player is re-indexing the musiclibra/ry . That's no good Maybe it worked with the two albums the developers tested the app, but with 100+ albums it is simply a "bug".
Every now and then I spend some time in trying to fix this. Still no results. Played with some registry settings, did some reformating, nothing nada rien.
I think the only way to fix this problem is to teach the music player to stop searching for new music (unless it is trigger by the user) and use the same indexfile again and again...
BTW the indexfile is located in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng and it is called AudioManager_Eng.vol
This file, on my device 2.4 Mb, is rebuild again and again and again - each time you do a softreset (or even when you restart Sense)
(Maybe someone can do something with this info)

alternatively you could try the following key:
hklm/software/htc/audiomanager_eng/config/resume_play_delay_time change it from 2000 (2 seconds) to 0
in the same key you can also try music_Player_index 1
athough i still dont know what that one does...
do you have anything else in the folders btw? album art is missing, if you connect via wifi or activsync and press the top left icon it should update the album art,. It may be something as stupid as trying to find that?

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I agree this is a very annoying problem. The problem is that each time you do a soft reset the music player is re-indexing the musiclibra/ry . That's no good Maybe it worked with the two albums the developers tested the app, but with 100+ albums it is simply a "bug".
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Its always been this way, and is the reason I moved to Pocket Player a couple of years back. Never looked back

Schooleydoo said:
Its always been this way, and is the reason I moved to Pocket Player a couple of years back. Never looked back
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Yeah I know, Pocket Player is so much better. But i'm kinda used to the cover flow of the sense player. It so comfortable in the car. Just rotate the car-mount and then select another album/song while keeping the eyes on the road. Way much better then the list view of pocket player. But apart from that....

fards said:
alternatively you could try the following key:
hklm/software/htc/audiomanager_eng/config/resume_play_delay_time change it from 2000 (2 seconds) to 0
in the same key you can also try music_Player_index 1
athough i still dont know what that one does...
do you have anything else in the folders btw? album art is missing, if you connect via wifi or activsync and press the top left icon it should update the album art,. It may be something as stupid as trying to find that?
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Ok, I have changed those 2 strings you suggested and then I did a soft reset in order to apply the changes.
But still no improvement at all.
Also I have only music in my music folder and nothing else except for the album art offcourse.
Btw, I know you can update the album art and I have done that several times already but for some songs it doesn't find any album art at all.

Maybe this would help...
Well, I had some succes. I have approx. 800 mp3 and they load in about 3-4 seconds.
But you have to open Mediaplayer and index them first.
Before I indexed it took about 5 minutes to load.
The indexing made a difference.

could be a dodgy tag. try clearing your card, then move over your music a few albums at a time.sees if any particular album makes a difference.I had a single track one time that crashed most music players I tried. non standard characters in one of the tags.
alternatively, got any files with excessively long names?

Well I tried to first index all my music with media player. It added about 920 songs. Then I closed mediaplayer and I went back to sense and went to the music tab bus sadly still nog improvement for me. But it was worth trying.
@samsamsuel: I have no dodgy tags, i converted them all with mp3tag. But yes I think I have some long tags in there, I could try to shorten them a bit. Hope this will work.

glennvho said:
Well I tried to first index all my music with media player. It added about 920 songs. Then I closed mediaplayer and I went back to sense and went to the music tab bus sadly still nog improvement for me. But it was worth trying.
@samsamsuel: I have no dodgy tags, i converted them all with mp3tag. But yes I think I have some long tags in there, I could try to shorten them a bit. Hope this will work.
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If you solved this problem please report it back here. I have 1700 files, so... you know

Ok I have converted all my tags to ID3v2.4 and I also shotened al the tags because I had a few of them wich were a bit long I thought.
Also I have deleted all the : , & @ / symbols in my tags.
But still there is no improvement at all. It still takes about 15-16 seconds to show the song title and artist like shown in the video. So all this work was for nothing.

Music Tab Slow

Whenever I select the music tab it takes about 4-5 seconds for anything to appear on the tab. This is irrespective of the ROM used. My SD Card is 16GB and FAT32. Songs are about 850 in 21 sub-folders in one main folder "Music" on the card.
Just wondering does anyone else have this problem or is there an existing tweak or something ?
The card has already been checked for errors and I have backed up everything, formatted the card and copied back. Same problem !

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Whenever I select the music tab it takes about 4-5 seconds for anything to appear on the tab. This is irrespective of the ROM used. My SD Card is 16GB and FAT32. Songs are about 850 in 21 sub-folders in one main folder "Music" on the card.
Just wondering does anyone else have this problem or is there an existing tweak or something ?
The card has already been checked for errors and I have backed up everything, formatted the card and copied back. Same problem !
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Don't have a problem with that. Just a question: are you trying to load a playlist with all 850 songs?

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Don't have a problem with that. Just a question: are you trying to load a playlist with all 850 songs?
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Hmm.. No I am not loading anything at all.
Scenario (example) :
Phone starts...after 1 hour of idling...i want to listen to music so I press the music tab...it takes almost 5+ secs to show any kind of music info on the tab...be it album ...the icons...etc
start calling and doing more stuff....want to listen again...above things just repeat
Hope I am clear...I am gonna try and load a 8GB card with same music and file structure and see if gives same problem

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Hmm.. No I am not loading anything at all.
Scenario (example) :
Phone starts...after 1 hour of idling...i want to listen to music so I press the music tab...it takes almost 5+ secs to show any kind of music info on the tab...be it album ...the icons...etc
start calling and doing more stuff....want to listen again...above things just repeat
Hope I am clear...I am gonna try and load a 8GB card with same music and file structure and see if gives same problem
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That's weird. For me it takes max 1 or 2 secs (if the library is loaded that is). I've 1100 songs on a 16gb storage card.
Another question do you have mp3 files or apple files. (I have a load problem with the last type of files, because when I load these they are always loaded as a pile of covers... )

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That's weird. For me it takes max 1 or 2 secs (if the library is loaded that is). I've 1100 songs on a 16gb storage card.
Another question do you have mp3 files or apple files. (I have a load problem with the last type of files, because when I load these they are always loaded as a pile of covers... )
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All mp3s with album covers as jpg in folders... it started happening recently...i think I added in a couple of folders and songs when this happened... well I guess..trying the other card trick is the only option for now.

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All mp3s with album covers as jpg in folders... it started happening recently...i think I added in a couple of folders and songs when this happened... well I guess..trying the other card trick is the only option for now.
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I've read somewhere that the problem can also be caused by names that are too long. Anyway, please report back if you've found a solution. I heavely depend on the HTC music player and am monitoring all kind a problems and solutions for it. (In case that... you know)

appelflap said:
I've read somewhere that the problem can also be caused by names that are too long. Anyway, please report back if you've found a solution. I heavely depend on the HTC music player and am monitoring all kind a problems and solutions for it. (In case that... you know)
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Surely will update if I can get it all smooth !

Found a solution!
Hey guys, I had the same problem but found the solution in this thread:
showthread.php?t=632151&highlight=Music+tab+slow&page=4
Hope it helps!

Thanks...but I moved to S2U2/S2P combo...much better for me

Music App Issue.

I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.

rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.

zelendel said:
I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
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Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?

rickyzone said:
Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
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I have looked in the reg and have not found anything. I think it is hard coded in the manila files as I noticed the change from sense 2.1 to 2.5. If I find anything Ill let you know

there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.

radzi said:
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
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I noticed the music thing today also. But when you update your library via windows media player, it seems to find all the music. At least, did for me. That fixed that issue, maybe music tab and windows media player are connected some way?

The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.

Thanks for this, if I still had my HD2 I would test it XD
travis.garrison said:
The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
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rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.

toreone said:
This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
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I tried that and it didn't have any effect on my load time. The cab did because it enabled the data to be cached, but starting the HTC audio manager in theory will only start the audio manager on startup which gives the appearance of a faster load because the data is being loaded while the phone starts and by the time you get to music it should be done.
My theory is that every time you slide away from the audio manager it closes the app and when you reopen it (thus have to reload the playlist) you're gonna get long load times once again. I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but I know the behavior on my device had nothing to do with starting the audiomanager on startup

i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy

Wingtytn, et al-
Thank you guys very much for your helpfulness. I am however getting a little tired of hearing the music, tags and the lunar cycle being blamed. While, yes, it's true that music can cause problems, that isn't the case here.
#1- If I open the music directly in Windows Media Player (on the phone) it not only loads instantly, but plays instantly and skips through songs without any hesitation. It also has no trouble keeping the shuffle setting on.
#2- This problem has occurred over the fresh installation of many ROMs. Every time I install a new ROM I delete any non-user created data on the SD Card, Hard Reset the Phone, Task29, then flash the ROM. The FIRST thing I do is check to see if these bugs still occur in the Sense Media Player, and inevitably they do.
#3- The first thing I did when I got this phone was to format the MicroSD card. It's the one that came with the phone, so I know it's not a compatibility issue.
#4- My music library is maintained and synced with my phone via Media Monkey Gold. It has been for some time and Media Monkey does a PHENOMENAL job at updating tracks' tags and checking file names.
If you still think its the music, see #1, and note that it works just fine on my laptop and the 16GB USB memory stick that I sync with to plug into the headunit in my car.
Then if you still think it's the music go ahead and post again that you think it's the music since it hasn't already been suggested and debunked (in my case) ad nauseum.
This rant has been brought to you by the letter 'V' and the number '5'
wingtytn said:
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
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thanks for the .cab made me love the hd2 even more....

wow
i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.

I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.

steve austin said:
i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
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Well, I've never tried that scenario. Does it have that behavior in portrait mode too? I just tried to recreate the problem but wasn't able to (it seemed to behave itself for me.

speoples20 said:
I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
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Seriously, this thread is for people who are trying to get the Sense Media Player working correctly, NOT taking suggestions about which other media player to use. Yes there are other media players out there and they're all great I'm sure, BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE THEM SO STOP SUGGESTING THEM AND POST FIXES OR WORK AROUNDS. thank you.

what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...

Aside from putting the Audiomanager shortcut in the startup folder, the cure for my music tab lag was simply 'not having every song in a single playlist'. I have 10GB of music on my SD card, and that's a lot of music to have on a single playlist, given Audiomanager annoyingly attempts to cache the entire Now Playing list including art every time you open it. Try selecting one artist/album at a time - works for me without fail.
I do really, really wish Audiomanager had the alphabet search function the contact manager has. And the ability to add albums/songs to Now Playing on the fly without creating a new playlist. Ah well, can't win 'em all - I won't sacrifice the Sense integration.

vista64 said:
what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
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This could potentially work. However here is a few things to look out for:
- Make sure it's legit class 6. At $50 if you got it from China then it's iffy about whether it's legit.
- The bottleneck might be the hardware card reader on the phone. If the card is capable of class 6 speeds but the reader will only read at, say, class 4 speeds then you won't see the speeds you are looking for.
Can you think about doing some more accurate testing with this? Here is what I suggest. Get a stopwatch, and media monkey. Sync all of your music on the old card with media monkey. Do a hard reset on the phone (so that no cabs are installed and it has the really slow start times). Collect 5-10 sample times with the stopwatch.
When you get your new card do the same thing. Sync all of your songs using media monkey, then hard reset and collect 5-10 startup times with the stopwatch and report your data.
The problem with simply "finger counting" is that if the numbers are negligible then you could get a placebo effect so that it "seems" faster but with no hard numbers you can't really tell.