I love my HD2 but the HTC music player is really slow when having lots of music (a 16 Gb card with maybe 1500 songs or so). It takes maybe 15-30 seconds before it is ready to use. Is this normal and is there any way to improve the speed?
I have the same problem very annoying. And slow to scroll through music in song view
Even worse is that it seems to do some rescan of all the music everytime you wake the phone, if the music tab is active, so you can't do anything until its finished. Very annoying.
Same for me with my 16Gb card. There should be an option to update manually instead of always automatically. Grr! I will still continue to use it though because the whole library and album selection is the best I've ever used on a WM Phone. Very comparable to the iPhone if not better IMO
My music player stopt after 20/30 sec. Anyone have noticed this problem?
It's driving my nuts
Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.
Toss3 said:
Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.
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so you are telling that we need to put all music in one folder and that will speed up Mplayer??? i've got same problem with mine as well.
i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?
And what about the cover art if you keep the music in just a few folders? I did a try to speed things up by removing all *.jpg files and instead only use the embedded cover arts (My thought was that few files must mean a faster scan). That mostly resulted in me loosing coverarts on a lot of albums (Even due they have embedded pictures) so I guess there are some limitations in the use of embedded pictures?
thats strange i only got embedded covers and they work. Which programm did you use? i used mp3tag...
elburna said:
i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?
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As long as you don't keep all of your music in the same folder it's going to load up quickly.
This is a repost from me in another thread about the same problem:
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I have experienced exactly the same problem and found a way to solve it. I had over 500 MP3 songs in one folder on a microSD card. Playing them was terrible, the same problems you mention: stutter, freezing, buffering and the entire phone seemed to be unresponsive at times.
Then I played a very large MP3 file (about 1 hour in length) and I had no troubles at all. That surprised me, because I expected (because of the constant buffering) this would not play at all. What suddenly hit me was that this large file was the only MP3 file in a separate folder.
So I moved a couple songs (which stuttered very much) to another folder and they played without any problem.
The solution I used was this: I deleted the single folder with to over 500 MP3's and added the songs through the Media Player of my PC. This way, the folder structure in the music folder is: Artist/Album/Songs. So every single folder with songs contains only a few MP3 files.
After that I let the Media Player rescan the microSD card. All the songs were detected and they all play without any worry.
Best regards,
Willem (Netherlands)
Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
jonboyuk said:
Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.
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Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Mine is also a Sandisk 16GB. I can't imagine you would need a high class microSD card, since all it needs to do is relatively easy reading straight forward files. It would be different if you needed to save enormous amounts of data.
And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
EDIT: I used the same microSD card with the same songs in a HD (Blackstone) without problems...
Willem
Toss3 said:
Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.
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Thought so! As I said my file structure is properly created by Windows Media Player 12, /music/artist/album being the structure and it still lags like hell!
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And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!
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Why don't you try and see for yourself. I had over 1000 songs in one folder to begin with and noticed that it took almost 30 seconds for the music player to even start. I then thought I'd try moving them around a bit and noticed that the load times were cut to two seconds and that the lag was gone once I had moved them to folders with no more than 50 songs in each. You also notice the speed increase in adding music files to windows media player's playlist.
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
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Nope, the lag, stutter and buffering only happens when I do have hundreds of files in 1 folder.
Since I have put the songs on the SDcard through Windows (7) Media Player (12) everything is fine.
Willem
Their is two part to the solution:
1) Don't put all the files in the same folder (if you sync using WMP, it may do so)
2) Format your SD card.... but using the "Format SD Card" utility on the phone (Start menu => Tools => Format SD Card in WWE ROM). This very help me (and my phone).. And now, it's only a little long after a soft reset, when going in the music tab for the first time
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I'm interested to know how others are getting on with the music tab in HTC sense. It took me a long time to get round to buying a 16GB card, but now I have I'm struggling to get the Music tab to function.
With a small collection of music it works just fine. However as I increase the collection at some point it breaks, so that it will only play a few seconds of a track before stopping, usually accompanied by a spinning circle in the top left of the screen, when that stops spinning the music stops. Something to do with indexing I'm assuming.
My music is organised in a fairly standard \Storage Card\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\ style format so there are no individually huge folders My favoured bitrate has been 192 so the files shouldn't be too big. I've tried syncing with Windows Media Player and with Mediamonkey. I've had mediamonkey convert all files as it syncs to WMA format or to MP3 at constant bitrate. All with the same results.
Who has the music tab functioning well with several GB's worth of music on their card? What settings did you use?
Of course I can just have WMP as a quick link on my first line whic happily plays everything and retains bluetooth AVRCP fuctionality. However the Music Tab interface is far nicer when it works.
<no longer true>My music tab isn't funtioning AT ALL, let alone well. It lists all my music (only 4 albums for experimenting, all tagged) alphabetically, and only draws the top half of the embedded albumart.
Doesn't even attempt to play, just sits there. Click next track, same - just draws half teh album art then sits there. Phone isn't hung or anything, just doesn't play.
Shame really, but i've not had it a week yet, so I'm gonna ignore it for now, and i'll look into it deeper once I have stopped playing with all the other bits.</no longer true>
See post 2 below
Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
samsamuel said:
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
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Yes,
I think using ActiveSync organises the files into a more easily accessible format/location, which is why I suggested it. Good to know that everything is working ok for you now though
OK, so I backed up everything on the card. Formatted the card using the phones built in application. Copied everything back except the music files.
Used Mediamonkey and set up an auto-conversion rule to convert everything it syncs to MP3 format at 192 bitrate whether it needs converting or not.
Updated the library in Media player on the HD2.
reset the HD2 and let the music tab re-index everything.
Everything is now working perfectly. Thanks for the opinions. Whether it was the phone format or just that I hadn't actually used those exact rules for syncing I can't say as mediamonkey was origionally setup to only convert files if it had to. I had issues with Windows Media Player missing out files.
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Everything is now working perfectly.
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Everything still perfect? I am almost able to sync without incident, but the "audio manager" crashes at the end of every sync (and, when prompted by the phone, I keep reporting the crash to Microsoft even though I don't expect them to get back to me anytime soon).
It also seems like I have to do a soft reset after each sync to shake out all of the bugs (missing album art, unplayable song files, etc.)
FWIW, I'm only syncing about 30 songs now until I have this sorted out, so having GBs worth of files isn't the problem (I was NEVER able to get 8GB of music to work in Manila's music tab on my Raphael).
id say that sounds more like an active sync issue.its never been the most stable program. why not simply connect in hard drive mode (or put memory card in card reader) and just drag and drop the music to it , then let the phone find it all itself.that'd be my preferred method.
gargon01 said:
Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
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How do you format the card from the Phone?
kochavy said:
How do you format the card from the Phone?
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I can jump in and answer that one - press the Window key (third one along on the bottom) (or press the button at the top left) and go to tools and there at the bottom is a button to format the SD card.
One thing I would like to see is the ability for the player to decode .ogg files - I love gapless playback, and really miss it with mp3's. I am trying to rip some stuff now, but it is a pain having to rip multiple tracks to one mp3 file just to avoid the hop skip and jump when playing back.
All the best.
rjstep3
When I was having issues with my music tab I followed the format SD card and organised into Artist/Album/tracks but what really worked for me was converting my entire library into LAME mp3. 1500+ songs are now working perfectly. I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
Hoodeddeathman said:
I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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dBpoweramp is certainly very good - but don't forget the free options as well, including foobar, Exact Audio Copy and Freerip3 - just Google for them.
rjstep3
i am also having a problem with the music.tab on the htc hd2. at first i was really plsased.with this phone but no w i am havekng countless problems with it...such as cudnt play videos with utube app installed...now this music nonsense.....i have spent toooo much mone on this phone t be getin these poblems and alsopurchased a 16gb card....i live tge hd2 .if only there was less problems
nyway has anyone found a working solution
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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I don't know why that would be, but if it works then it works!
I have a "MUSIC" folder on my SD card, and in that I have artist sub-folders and then within them I have album sub-folders. It all works fine for me. This is literally the same folder that I've had for the past 3 WM phones, and I just copied it there manually, without using any type of synch.
Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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Could be because of the length of the path/filename when sub folders are used?
EG
theartistfoldernamedartist/thenameofthealbum/theartistfoldernamedartist-thenameofthealbum-thetracknumber.mp3
Perhaps the scanner struggles to cope with long path/filenames?
Ive got this problem and i was wondering if it had anything to do with the quality of the storage card?
Edit:
REASON FOUND
"One bad apple spoils the barrel"
One badly encoded mp3 will make the entire player stop. I found this while playing mp3s on music tab whilst transfering new mp3s through drag and drop (active sync) as soon as one particular mp3 was transferred the player stop and music would stop after 2-5secs. After deleting this file and reaccessing music tab library it was back to normal.
Suggestions: leave music player on whilst drag and dropping so you can figure out which are the problem files.
Alternatively: Re-encode your mp3s, either all or the problem files only.
I have been having an intermitment problem with the music tab in that it works fine for most of the time but then suddenly when I open it I get the spinning circle at the top left and the whole thing has frozen. The only way to get it working is a soft reset.
It doesn't seem to be badly formatted mp3 as after the reset the file that was in the player will work again.
I transfer music from windows media player using the sync function.
It has never stopped working whilst playing only when I open the tab and I think a few times it has been when a track has been paused for some time.
Any ideas are welcome. . .
My music tab doesn't work properly every time after the device was connected via USB in external drive mode. The last played title keeps being displayed, the album it is in is shown in the library as well (as currently played items or however this the first list in the library is called in english) but nothing else is listed. And the little white circle keeps spinning and spinning... I let it spin for hours once but nothing happened. The SD card was formatted by the phone in the first place and I never get freezes once the player works properly.
After a soft reset everything works fine instantly but shouldn't there be a way to get it up and running without resetting everytime I use USB external drive mode???
ROM 1.66 GER, problem was present on clean ROM (before tweaks and tools), too.
How many albums can you store in the music player??
I have tried to add around 30 or so as i have a 16gb card, the phone just freezes, then after about 5 reboots, shows around 7 albums, but some doubled even though they are on the card once, its then downloaded 20 covers for the same album, but put the covers into another albums folder that has nothing to do with it, and now i have several folders on my card i cant delete as it says "you cannot delete this folder cus its not empty????"
I delete the files in the folder, and i still cant delete.
What a buggy pile of dog turd!
How did you transfer the music? if you used activesync a lot of people have had problems, try moving it using disk drive mode instead.
I always use diskdrive mode, or remove the memcard and put it straight into a card reader, this is crap, i now have 6 albums, 3 of wich are being duped, 4 will play 2 wont, and i keep getting "Audiomanger has caused a problem and keeps crashing.
CRAP
I have more than albums without any problem. The music tab is lagging in the beginning because there's too much musics, but after about 10 sec. of lag (loading all musics), all is perfectly working.
Well mine is an asshole, completely useless as a music player, i have to add each album one at a time, some just send it insane for no reason.
I have a feeling this 16gb card isnt helping, i found all 16gb cars to be buggy, may go back to a 8gb.
Also just noticed it jumps songs from 01 to 07, even though they are numbers from 1 to 13.
One word simply SHOCKING.
Did you connect your phone in "USB" mode, when adding your musics, or in "Active Sync" mode ?
I have about 200 albums on a 16gb card and never had any major problems, even when adding lots of albums at once, either by using ActiveSync, Diskdrive mode or a memory card. Even the library interface is still very fast and responsive.
Just wondering: do you put all your mp3's in one big folder, or do you have separate folders for each album (as I do)? From your description, I'm guessing separate folders, which is good. I would also check the mp3 tags with a program like Mp3tag if I were you.
Actually... your problem sounds exactly like what happened when my previous memory card broke. I'm not sure but I think it happened when using a card reader in my pc, even though I always 'safely remove'; after that, the music player crashed and failed to build its library, and several folders caused trouble in the file explorer. I was still on my previous device then (Touch Pro) but the results would probably be the same on the HD2.
I don't think the fact that it's a 16gb card causes trouble (I've been using one for a long time without a hitch), but there's a good possibility that yours is broken.
Whenever I select the music tab it takes about 4-5 seconds for anything to appear on the tab. This is irrespective of the ROM used. My SD Card is 16GB and FAT32. Songs are about 850 in 21 sub-folders in one main folder "Music" on the card.
Just wondering does anyone else have this problem or is there an existing tweak or something ?
The card has already been checked for errors and I have backed up everything, formatted the card and copied back. Same problem !
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Whenever I select the music tab it takes about 4-5 seconds for anything to appear on the tab. This is irrespective of the ROM used. My SD Card is 16GB and FAT32. Songs are about 850 in 21 sub-folders in one main folder "Music" on the card.
Just wondering does anyone else have this problem or is there an existing tweak or something ?
The card has already been checked for errors and I have backed up everything, formatted the card and copied back. Same problem !
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Don't have a problem with that. Just a question: are you trying to load a playlist with all 850 songs?
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Don't have a problem with that. Just a question: are you trying to load a playlist with all 850 songs?
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Hmm.. No I am not loading anything at all.
Scenario (example) :
Phone starts...after 1 hour of idling...i want to listen to music so I press the music tab...it takes almost 5+ secs to show any kind of music info on the tab...be it album ...the icons...etc
start calling and doing more stuff....want to listen again...above things just repeat
Hope I am clear...I am gonna try and load a 8GB card with same music and file structure and see if gives same problem
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Hmm.. No I am not loading anything at all.
Scenario (example) :
Phone starts...after 1 hour of idling...i want to listen to music so I press the music tab...it takes almost 5+ secs to show any kind of music info on the tab...be it album ...the icons...etc
start calling and doing more stuff....want to listen again...above things just repeat
Hope I am clear...I am gonna try and load a 8GB card with same music and file structure and see if gives same problem
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That's weird. For me it takes max 1 or 2 secs (if the library is loaded that is). I've 1100 songs on a 16gb storage card.
Another question do you have mp3 files or apple files. (I have a load problem with the last type of files, because when I load these they are always loaded as a pile of covers... )
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That's weird. For me it takes max 1 or 2 secs (if the library is loaded that is). I've 1100 songs on a 16gb storage card.
Another question do you have mp3 files or apple files. (I have a load problem with the last type of files, because when I load these they are always loaded as a pile of covers... )
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All mp3s with album covers as jpg in folders... it started happening recently...i think I added in a couple of folders and songs when this happened... well I guess..trying the other card trick is the only option for now.
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All mp3s with album covers as jpg in folders... it started happening recently...i think I added in a couple of folders and songs when this happened... well I guess..trying the other card trick is the only option for now.
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I've read somewhere that the problem can also be caused by names that are too long. Anyway, please report back if you've found a solution. I heavely depend on the HTC music player and am monitoring all kind a problems and solutions for it. (In case that... you know)
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I've read somewhere that the problem can also be caused by names that are too long. Anyway, please report back if you've found a solution. I heavely depend on the HTC music player and am monitoring all kind a problems and solutions for it. (In case that... you know)
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Surely will update if I can get it all smooth !
Found a solution!
Hey guys, I had the same problem but found the solution in this thread:
showthread.php?t=632151&highlight=Music+tab+slow&page=4
Hope it helps!
Thanks...but I moved to S2U2/S2P combo...much better for me
Hi,
Two Issues I need help on:
1. I just transferred 2000 mp3 to my sd card/Music phone is supper slow, locks up.
2. When I get my song list up, Most of them shows ! on it. Some do and some dont, perhaps the list got corrupted as those were the mp3 I had before which I deleted and transferred a new set of 2000 mp3's to /sdcard/Music
What can I do? I first had 200 mp3's and it was Ok. Is there a limit??
Thanks
richsark said:
Hi,
Two Issues I need help on:
1. I just transferred 2000 mp3 to my sd card/Music phone is supper slow, locks up.
2. When I get my song list up, Most of them shows ! on it. Some do and some dont, perhaps the list got corrupted as those were the mp3 I had before which I deleted and transferred a new set of 2000 mp3's to /sdcard/Music
What can I do? I first had 200 mp3's and it was Ok. Is there a limit??
Thanks
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I guess I am alone on this one. I dont have a clue how to solve this one.
Any body??
not sure how many mp3 I have, but I do have close to 14G of mp3s, so it should be more, if not close to 2000 mp3 you have.
I don't have any slowness, did you experience it every time you reset, or it happens even after 1-2 hours after your last reset?
and btw, you get better response in the HD2 theme and app forum.
1. Did you format the sd card (fat 32) prior to importing the files?
2. Are you on Stock 1.66 ROM?
3. TBH I have yet to hear of anyone with so much number of MP3 files that HTC Music Player can handle.
4. use WM media player
or some other third party
As suggested above, format the microSD card. A corrupt microSD card can really slow down a smartphone.
Also, see if WMP handles the files well. Many media players for WM choke on large libraries. For all of it's ugliness, WMP seems to handle large libraries fairly well.
zenkinz said:
not sure how many mp3 I have, but I do have close to 14G of mp3s, so it should be more, if not close to 2000 mp3 you have.
I don't have any slowness, did you experience it every time you reset, or it happens even after 1-2 hours after your last reset?
and btw, you get better response in the HD2 theme and app forum.
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HI, I just did a hard-reset, when I slide over to the Music Icon, it now says searching and I get a spinning circle, songs are appearing slowly, but I wanted to know, is it perhaps the spinning circle has something to do with the lag, I mean, If you side over to music icon, should it not pop up and show the songs /sdcard/music ??
What is it trying to do? and can I stop it?? I cant imagine that this HD2 craps out on 1900 mp3's ( cleared up a few )
My SDCard is at FAT32 already
Should I try another ROM like [ROM] Artemis HD2 v9.0 [WWE|GER|FRA|ITA|ELL|SPA|PTG|RUS|NLD|NOR|SVE] WM6.5.5+Leo 2.10 ????
Or... am I not doing it right to put all the mp3 on the sdcad??
jigners said:
1. Did you format the sd card (fat 32) prior to importing the files?
2. Are you on Stock 1.66 ROM?
3. TBH I have yet to hear of anyone with so much number of MP3 files that HTC Music Player can handle.
4. use WM media player
or some other third party
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HI,
Card was already at Fat32, did not format, however its hot on the back side
I am using ( see Signature) [ROM][WWE][25.03] LEON v1.5 [WM6.5 - 21889][BASE: v2.10][576Mb RAM Enabled][UC] - OUT
richsark said:
HI, I just did a hard-reset, when I slide over to the Music Icon, it now says searching and I get a spinning circle, songs are appearing slowly, but I wanted to know, is it perhaps the spinning circle has something to do with the lag, I mean, If you side over to music icon, should it not pop up and show the songs /sdcard/music ??
What is it trying to do? and can I stop it?? I cant imagine that this HD2 craps out on 1900 mp3's ( cleared up a few )
My SDCard is at FAT32 already
Should I try another ROM like [ROM] Artemis HD2 v9.0 [WWE|GER|FRA|ITA|ELL|SPA|PTG|RUS|NLD|NOR|SVE] WM6.5.5+Leo 2.10 ????
Or... am I not doing it right to put all the mp3 on the sdcad??
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every time you soft reset the phone, the audio manager will rebuild the library. So that spining icon describe that situation.
it shouldnt' take ages to rebuild the library though. Usually, 10-20 secs is all it need, (just a ball park estimate, but you get the idea of the duration)
there's some lag though, on stock rom or rom that doesn't use extendir, when you swipe over to the music tab. i.e. it'll take a few second before the music tab shows up, and before that, it'll look as if the music tab / music player is hung.
I'm not sure how many chef has use extendir, I know bobsbbq, myself and I think scotsman have that build that in the rom.
I have alot of MP3's (6-7GB) on my SD card. A reason for the sluggish HD2 could be because when you first select the music tab after a soft reset, the music library rebuild itself (search for all the track again).
After 20 mins my library is rebuilt and the phone is back to its blazing self again.
I let it search once, then dont reset my phone until necessary!
Hope this helps
EDIT: replying whilst the post above, was posted...sorry.
muzens said:
I have alot of MP3's (6-7GB) on my SD card. A reason for the sluggish HD2 could be because when you first select the music tab after a soft reset, the music library rebuild itself (search for all the track again).
After 20 mins my library is rebuilt and the phone is back to its blazing self again.
I let it search once, then dont reset my phone until necessary!
Hope this helps
EDIT: replying whilst the post above, was posted...sorry.
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20mins is abit too long
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20mins is abit too long
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That is what I thought, maybe it has something to do with the album art.
On a lot of albums the art is the same (it has copied one cover to lots of albums).
I will format again and see if the is a difference.
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That is what I thought, maybe it has something to do with the album art.
On a lot of albums the art is the same (it has copied one cover to lots of albums).
I will format again and see if the is a difference.
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Yes, who has time for that?? Can you shut off the album art search?? I think this is crazy that this fantastic HD2 cant stink-in handle mp3's.
There must be somethin that can be done??
20 min is too long, my workout would be finished first before I have a chance to listen.
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richsark said:
Yes, who has time for that?? Can you shut off the album art search?? I think this is crazy that this fantastic HD2 cant stink-in handle mp3's.
There must be somethin that can be done??
20 min is too long, my workout would be finished first before I have a chance to listen.
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I have solved the problem with my library.
I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder.
Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster
OP, do you by chance have a US HD2 with the stock TMOUS class 2 SD card? I think the issue may be the slow card. For instance, the games that ship with the phone on the SD card have to be moved to the phone to play smoothly due to the "slowness" of the card.
I believe the suggestion from muzens has worked for some.
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OP, do you by chance have a US HD2 with the stock TMOUS class 2 SD card? I think the issue may be the slow card. For instance, the games that ship with the phone on the SD card have to be moved to the phone to play smoothly due to the "slowness" of the card.
I believe the suggestion from muzens has worked for some.
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I think it it, I see 2 on the card.
As far as my issue, I guess there is no way an HD2 can handle 2000 MP3's, So I will delete as much as I can until it works ok.
Unless anyone else has another solution.
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richsark said:
I think it it, I see 2 on the card.
As far as my issue, I guess there is no way an HD2 can handle 2000 MP3's, So I will delete as much as I can until it works ok.
Unless anyone else has another solution.
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Update: I just updated NRGZ28 Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.11.7z from Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.09
and to me looks like the sluggish has gone, while the music is being built, now I can slide to another tab. I also noticed the the songs start appearing/built a hole hell of lot faster.
I have not seen the release notes yet, but whatever is there is more satisfied for me now.
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richsark said:
Update: I just updated NRGZ28 Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.11.7z from Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.09
and to me looks like the sluggish has gone, while the music is being built, now I can slide to another tab. I also noticed the the songs start appearing/built a hole hell of lot faster.
I have not seen the release notes yet, but whatever is there is more satisfied for me now.
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Could you tell us if you have your music in folder like mentioned above?
"I have solved the problem with my library. I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder. Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster."
I'd really like to know if I'm going to run into the same problems if I decide to ditch my iPod.
Hello all,
The best solution to the Sense music player being slow when there are 100's of tracks is to split the files over several folders on the root (cut & paste).
Keep this to around 50-60 tracks in any one folder. For exanple is the Music folder on my MicroSD card I have created 0-A, B-C, D-F, etc. and place all the tracks in order of the fist letter. This can be easily done by plugging in your USB cable to the device and selecting Disk Drive.
Once you have done this, reset your device and go to the music tab, it will then perform one scan and you will not get any delay thereafter.
muzens said:
I have solved the problem with my library.
I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder.
Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster
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that's how I arrange my mp3.
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
zelendel said:
I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
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Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
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Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
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I have looked in the reg and have not found anything. I think it is hard coded in the manila files as I noticed the change from sense 2.1 to 2.5. If I find anything Ill let you know
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
radzi said:
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
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I noticed the music thing today also. But when you update your library via windows media player, it seems to find all the music. At least, did for me. That fixed that issue, maybe music tab and windows media player are connected some way?
The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
Thanks for this, if I still had my HD2 I would test it XD
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The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
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rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
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This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
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I tried that and it didn't have any effect on my load time. The cab did because it enabled the data to be cached, but starting the HTC audio manager in theory will only start the audio manager on startup which gives the appearance of a faster load because the data is being loaded while the phone starts and by the time you get to music it should be done.
My theory is that every time you slide away from the audio manager it closes the app and when you reopen it (thus have to reload the playlist) you're gonna get long load times once again. I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but I know the behavior on my device had nothing to do with starting the audiomanager on startup
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
Wingtytn, et al-
Thank you guys very much for your helpfulness. I am however getting a little tired of hearing the music, tags and the lunar cycle being blamed. While, yes, it's true that music can cause problems, that isn't the case here.
#1- If I open the music directly in Windows Media Player (on the phone) it not only loads instantly, but plays instantly and skips through songs without any hesitation. It also has no trouble keeping the shuffle setting on.
#2- This problem has occurred over the fresh installation of many ROMs. Every time I install a new ROM I delete any non-user created data on the SD Card, Hard Reset the Phone, Task29, then flash the ROM. The FIRST thing I do is check to see if these bugs still occur in the Sense Media Player, and inevitably they do.
#3- The first thing I did when I got this phone was to format the MicroSD card. It's the one that came with the phone, so I know it's not a compatibility issue.
#4- My music library is maintained and synced with my phone via Media Monkey Gold. It has been for some time and Media Monkey does a PHENOMENAL job at updating tracks' tags and checking file names.
If you still think its the music, see #1, and note that it works just fine on my laptop and the 16GB USB memory stick that I sync with to plug into the headunit in my car.
Then if you still think it's the music go ahead and post again that you think it's the music since it hasn't already been suggested and debunked (in my case) ad nauseum.
This rant has been brought to you by the letter 'V' and the number '5'
wingtytn said:
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
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thanks for the .cab made me love the hd2 even more....
wow
i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
steve austin said:
i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
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Well, I've never tried that scenario. Does it have that behavior in portrait mode too? I just tried to recreate the problem but wasn't able to (it seemed to behave itself for me.
speoples20 said:
I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
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Seriously, this thread is for people who are trying to get the Sense Media Player working correctly, NOT taking suggestions about which other media player to use. Yes there are other media players out there and they're all great I'm sure, BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE THEM SO STOP SUGGESTING THEM AND POST FIXES OR WORK AROUNDS. thank you.
what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
Aside from putting the Audiomanager shortcut in the startup folder, the cure for my music tab lag was simply 'not having every song in a single playlist'. I have 10GB of music on my SD card, and that's a lot of music to have on a single playlist, given Audiomanager annoyingly attempts to cache the entire Now Playing list including art every time you open it. Try selecting one artist/album at a time - works for me without fail.
I do really, really wish Audiomanager had the alphabet search function the contact manager has. And the ability to add albums/songs to Now Playing on the fly without creating a new playlist. Ah well, can't win 'em all - I won't sacrifice the Sense integration.
vista64 said:
what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
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This could potentially work. However here is a few things to look out for:
- Make sure it's legit class 6. At $50 if you got it from China then it's iffy about whether it's legit.
- The bottleneck might be the hardware card reader on the phone. If the card is capable of class 6 speeds but the reader will only read at, say, class 4 speeds then you won't see the speeds you are looking for.
Can you think about doing some more accurate testing with this? Here is what I suggest. Get a stopwatch, and media monkey. Sync all of your music on the old card with media monkey. Do a hard reset on the phone (so that no cabs are installed and it has the really slow start times). Collect 5-10 sample times with the stopwatch.
When you get your new card do the same thing. Sync all of your songs using media monkey, then hard reset and collect 5-10 startup times with the stopwatch and report your data.
The problem with simply "finger counting" is that if the numbers are negligible then you could get a placebo effect so that it "seems" faster but with no hard numbers you can't really tell.