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I love my HD2 but the HTC music player is really slow when having lots of music (a 16 Gb card with maybe 1500 songs or so). It takes maybe 15-30 seconds before it is ready to use. Is this normal and is there any way to improve the speed?
I have the same problem very annoying. And slow to scroll through music in song view
Even worse is that it seems to do some rescan of all the music everytime you wake the phone, if the music tab is active, so you can't do anything until its finished. Very annoying.
Same for me with my 16Gb card. There should be an option to update manually instead of always automatically. Grr! I will still continue to use it though because the whole library and album selection is the best I've ever used on a WM Phone. Very comparable to the iPhone if not better IMO
My music player stopt after 20/30 sec. Anyone have noticed this problem?
It's driving my nuts
Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.
Toss3 said:
Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.
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so you are telling that we need to put all music in one folder and that will speed up Mplayer??? i've got same problem with mine as well.
i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?
And what about the cover art if you keep the music in just a few folders? I did a try to speed things up by removing all *.jpg files and instead only use the embedded cover arts (My thought was that few files must mean a faster scan). That mostly resulted in me loosing coverarts on a lot of albums (Even due they have embedded pictures) so I guess there are some limitations in the use of embedded pictures?
thats strange i only got embedded covers and they work. Which programm did you use? i used mp3tag...
elburna said:
i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?
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As long as you don't keep all of your music in the same folder it's going to load up quickly.
This is a repost from me in another thread about the same problem:
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I have experienced exactly the same problem and found a way to solve it. I had over 500 MP3 songs in one folder on a microSD card. Playing them was terrible, the same problems you mention: stutter, freezing, buffering and the entire phone seemed to be unresponsive at times.
Then I played a very large MP3 file (about 1 hour in length) and I had no troubles at all. That surprised me, because I expected (because of the constant buffering) this would not play at all. What suddenly hit me was that this large file was the only MP3 file in a separate folder.
So I moved a couple songs (which stuttered very much) to another folder and they played without any problem.
The solution I used was this: I deleted the single folder with to over 500 MP3's and added the songs through the Media Player of my PC. This way, the folder structure in the music folder is: Artist/Album/Songs. So every single folder with songs contains only a few MP3 files.
After that I let the Media Player rescan the microSD card. All the songs were detected and they all play without any worry.
Best regards,
Willem (Netherlands)
Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
jonboyuk said:
Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.
jonboyuk said:
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Mine is also a Sandisk 16GB. I can't imagine you would need a high class microSD card, since all it needs to do is relatively easy reading straight forward files. It would be different if you needed to save enormous amounts of data.
And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
EDIT: I used the same microSD card with the same songs in a HD (Blackstone) without problems...
Willem
Toss3 said:
Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.
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Thought so! As I said my file structure is properly created by Windows Media Player 12, /music/artist/album being the structure and it still lags like hell!
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And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!
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Why don't you try and see for yourself. I had over 1000 songs in one folder to begin with and noticed that it took almost 30 seconds for the music player to even start. I then thought I'd try moving them around a bit and noticed that the load times were cut to two seconds and that the lag was gone once I had moved them to folders with no more than 50 songs in each. You also notice the speed increase in adding music files to windows media player's playlist.
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
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Nope, the lag, stutter and buffering only happens when I do have hundreds of files in 1 folder.
Since I have put the songs on the SDcard through Windows (7) Media Player (12) everything is fine.
Willem
Their is two part to the solution:
1) Don't put all the files in the same folder (if you sync using WMP, it may do so)
2) Format your SD card.... but using the "Format SD Card" utility on the phone (Start menu => Tools => Format SD Card in WWE ROM). This very help me (and my phone).. And now, it's only a little long after a soft reset, when going in the music tab for the first time
Hey,
My hd2 is very slow in playing music. I've made a video from it to show you guys: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWbrBNKJ5wc
I have about a 1000 songs in my library each in a different folder by artist.
Can anyone help me?
Thank you in advance
Ive got 480 songs and mine also takes dat much time to load..... only on Khol,s rom (1 Gz hack) it would load instantly
Does anyone have any solution?
Try Nitrogen?
Teardrop45 said:
Ive got 480 songs and mine also takes dat much time to load..... only on Khol,s rom (1 Gz hack) it would load instantly
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i have 484 songs, and it most certainly dit NOT load instantly on kholk's roms, not the latest nor any of the previous ones.
The 1Ghz Hack, has been proven to the satisfaction of many, to be a fake.
g.lewarne said:
i have 484 songs, and it most certainly dit NOT load instantly on kholk's roms, not the latest nor any of the previous ones.
The 1Ghz Hack, has been proven to the satisfaction of many, to be a fake.
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So does everyone have the same problem as me? I can't find much from this problem on google, strange.
glennvho said:
Hey,
My hd2 is very slow in playing music. I've made a video from it to show you guys: youtube.com/watch?v=WWbrBNKJ5wc (just put www. in front of the link to view it, I can't post a direct link because I'm new here.)
I have about a 1000 songs in my library each in a different folder by artist.
Can anyone help me?
Thank you in advance
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Take everthing off your storage card and back it up, reformat your storage card fat32 32kb size reload all your stuff back on your card and let me know if it's faster!
DT39 said:
Take everthing off your storage card and back it up, reformat your storage card fat32 32kb size reload all your stuff back on your card and let me know if it's faster!
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I tried this but sadly no improvement at all.
But thanks for the help.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this problem?
I have the same issue, so I don´t use music tab any more, I use Slide2play, works great and I can switch from music player, desktop and navigator with taskfacade.
I agree this is a very annoying problem. The problem is that each time you do a soft reset the music player is re-indexing the musiclibra/ry . That's no good Maybe it worked with the two albums the developers tested the app, but with 100+ albums it is simply a "bug".
Every now and then I spend some time in trying to fix this. Still no results. Played with some registry settings, did some reformating, nothing nada rien.
I think the only way to fix this problem is to teach the music player to stop searching for new music (unless it is trigger by the user) and use the same indexfile again and again...
BTW the indexfile is located in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng and it is called AudioManager_Eng.vol
This file, on my device 2.4 Mb, is rebuild again and again and again - each time you do a softreset (or even when you restart Sense)
(Maybe someone can do something with this info)
alternatively you could try the following key:
hklm/software/htc/audiomanager_eng/config/resume_play_delay_time change it from 2000 (2 seconds) to 0
in the same key you can also try music_Player_index 1
athough i still dont know what that one does...
do you have anything else in the folders btw? album art is missing, if you connect via wifi or activsync and press the top left icon it should update the album art,. It may be something as stupid as trying to find that?
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I agree this is a very annoying problem. The problem is that each time you do a soft reset the music player is re-indexing the musiclibra/ry . That's no good Maybe it worked with the two albums the developers tested the app, but with 100+ albums it is simply a "bug".
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Its always been this way, and is the reason I moved to Pocket Player a couple of years back. Never looked back
Schooleydoo said:
Its always been this way, and is the reason I moved to Pocket Player a couple of years back. Never looked back
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Yeah I know, Pocket Player is so much better. But i'm kinda used to the cover flow of the sense player. It so comfortable in the car. Just rotate the car-mount and then select another album/song while keeping the eyes on the road. Way much better then the list view of pocket player. But apart from that....
fards said:
alternatively you could try the following key:
hklm/software/htc/audiomanager_eng/config/resume_play_delay_time change it from 2000 (2 seconds) to 0
in the same key you can also try music_Player_index 1
athough i still dont know what that one does...
do you have anything else in the folders btw? album art is missing, if you connect via wifi or activsync and press the top left icon it should update the album art,. It may be something as stupid as trying to find that?
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Ok, I have changed those 2 strings you suggested and then I did a soft reset in order to apply the changes.
But still no improvement at all.
Also I have only music in my music folder and nothing else except for the album art offcourse.
Btw, I know you can update the album art and I have done that several times already but for some songs it doesn't find any album art at all.
Maybe this would help...
Well, I had some succes. I have approx. 800 mp3 and they load in about 3-4 seconds.
But you have to open Mediaplayer and index them first.
Before I indexed it took about 5 minutes to load.
The indexing made a difference.
could be a dodgy tag. try clearing your card, then move over your music a few albums at a time.sees if any particular album makes a difference.I had a single track one time that crashed most music players I tried. non standard characters in one of the tags.
alternatively, got any files with excessively long names?
Well I tried to first index all my music with media player. It added about 920 songs. Then I closed mediaplayer and I went back to sense and went to the music tab bus sadly still nog improvement for me. But it was worth trying.
@samsamsuel: I have no dodgy tags, i converted them all with mp3tag. But yes I think I have some long tags in there, I could try to shorten them a bit. Hope this will work.
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Well I tried to first index all my music with media player. It added about 920 songs. Then I closed mediaplayer and I went back to sense and went to the music tab bus sadly still nog improvement for me. But it was worth trying.
@samsamsuel: I have no dodgy tags, i converted them all with mp3tag. But yes I think I have some long tags in there, I could try to shorten them a bit. Hope this will work.
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If you solved this problem please report it back here. I have 1700 files, so... you know
Ok I have converted all my tags to ID3v2.4 and I also shotened al the tags because I had a few of them wich were a bit long I thought.
Also I have deleted all the : , & @ / symbols in my tags.
But still there is no improvement at all. It still takes about 15-16 seconds to show the song title and artist like shown in the video. So all this work was for nothing.
Hi,
Two Issues I need help on:
1. I just transferred 2000 mp3 to my sd card/Music phone is supper slow, locks up.
2. When I get my song list up, Most of them shows ! on it. Some do and some dont, perhaps the list got corrupted as those were the mp3 I had before which I deleted and transferred a new set of 2000 mp3's to /sdcard/Music
What can I do? I first had 200 mp3's and it was Ok. Is there a limit??
Thanks
richsark said:
Hi,
Two Issues I need help on:
1. I just transferred 2000 mp3 to my sd card/Music phone is supper slow, locks up.
2. When I get my song list up, Most of them shows ! on it. Some do and some dont, perhaps the list got corrupted as those were the mp3 I had before which I deleted and transferred a new set of 2000 mp3's to /sdcard/Music
What can I do? I first had 200 mp3's and it was Ok. Is there a limit??
Thanks
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I guess I am alone on this one. I dont have a clue how to solve this one.
Any body??
not sure how many mp3 I have, but I do have close to 14G of mp3s, so it should be more, if not close to 2000 mp3 you have.
I don't have any slowness, did you experience it every time you reset, or it happens even after 1-2 hours after your last reset?
and btw, you get better response in the HD2 theme and app forum.
1. Did you format the sd card (fat 32) prior to importing the files?
2. Are you on Stock 1.66 ROM?
3. TBH I have yet to hear of anyone with so much number of MP3 files that HTC Music Player can handle.
4. use WM media player
or some other third party
As suggested above, format the microSD card. A corrupt microSD card can really slow down a smartphone.
Also, see if WMP handles the files well. Many media players for WM choke on large libraries. For all of it's ugliness, WMP seems to handle large libraries fairly well.
zenkinz said:
not sure how many mp3 I have, but I do have close to 14G of mp3s, so it should be more, if not close to 2000 mp3 you have.
I don't have any slowness, did you experience it every time you reset, or it happens even after 1-2 hours after your last reset?
and btw, you get better response in the HD2 theme and app forum.
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HI, I just did a hard-reset, when I slide over to the Music Icon, it now says searching and I get a spinning circle, songs are appearing slowly, but I wanted to know, is it perhaps the spinning circle has something to do with the lag, I mean, If you side over to music icon, should it not pop up and show the songs /sdcard/music ??
What is it trying to do? and can I stop it?? I cant imagine that this HD2 craps out on 1900 mp3's ( cleared up a few )
My SDCard is at FAT32 already
Should I try another ROM like [ROM] Artemis HD2 v9.0 [WWE|GER|FRA|ITA|ELL|SPA|PTG|RUS|NLD|NOR|SVE] WM6.5.5+Leo 2.10 ????
Or... am I not doing it right to put all the mp3 on the sdcad??
jigners said:
1. Did you format the sd card (fat 32) prior to importing the files?
2. Are you on Stock 1.66 ROM?
3. TBH I have yet to hear of anyone with so much number of MP3 files that HTC Music Player can handle.
4. use WM media player
or some other third party
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HI,
Card was already at Fat32, did not format, however its hot on the back side
I am using ( see Signature) [ROM][WWE][25.03] LEON v1.5 [WM6.5 - 21889][BASE: v2.10][576Mb RAM Enabled][UC] - OUT
richsark said:
HI, I just did a hard-reset, when I slide over to the Music Icon, it now says searching and I get a spinning circle, songs are appearing slowly, but I wanted to know, is it perhaps the spinning circle has something to do with the lag, I mean, If you side over to music icon, should it not pop up and show the songs /sdcard/music ??
What is it trying to do? and can I stop it?? I cant imagine that this HD2 craps out on 1900 mp3's ( cleared up a few )
My SDCard is at FAT32 already
Should I try another ROM like [ROM] Artemis HD2 v9.0 [WWE|GER|FRA|ITA|ELL|SPA|PTG|RUS|NLD|NOR|SVE] WM6.5.5+Leo 2.10 ????
Or... am I not doing it right to put all the mp3 on the sdcad??
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every time you soft reset the phone, the audio manager will rebuild the library. So that spining icon describe that situation.
it shouldnt' take ages to rebuild the library though. Usually, 10-20 secs is all it need, (just a ball park estimate, but you get the idea of the duration)
there's some lag though, on stock rom or rom that doesn't use extendir, when you swipe over to the music tab. i.e. it'll take a few second before the music tab shows up, and before that, it'll look as if the music tab / music player is hung.
I'm not sure how many chef has use extendir, I know bobsbbq, myself and I think scotsman have that build that in the rom.
I have alot of MP3's (6-7GB) on my SD card. A reason for the sluggish HD2 could be because when you first select the music tab after a soft reset, the music library rebuild itself (search for all the track again).
After 20 mins my library is rebuilt and the phone is back to its blazing self again.
I let it search once, then dont reset my phone until necessary!
Hope this helps
EDIT: replying whilst the post above, was posted...sorry.
muzens said:
I have alot of MP3's (6-7GB) on my SD card. A reason for the sluggish HD2 could be because when you first select the music tab after a soft reset, the music library rebuild itself (search for all the track again).
After 20 mins my library is rebuilt and the phone is back to its blazing self again.
I let it search once, then dont reset my phone until necessary!
Hope this helps
EDIT: replying whilst the post above, was posted...sorry.
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20mins is abit too long
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20mins is abit too long
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That is what I thought, maybe it has something to do with the album art.
On a lot of albums the art is the same (it has copied one cover to lots of albums).
I will format again and see if the is a difference.
Thanks
muzens said:
That is what I thought, maybe it has something to do with the album art.
On a lot of albums the art is the same (it has copied one cover to lots of albums).
I will format again and see if the is a difference.
Thanks
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Yes, who has time for that?? Can you shut off the album art search?? I think this is crazy that this fantastic HD2 cant stink-in handle mp3's.
There must be somethin that can be done??
20 min is too long, my workout would be finished first before I have a chance to listen.
Thanks
richsark said:
Yes, who has time for that?? Can you shut off the album art search?? I think this is crazy that this fantastic HD2 cant stink-in handle mp3's.
There must be somethin that can be done??
20 min is too long, my workout would be finished first before I have a chance to listen.
Thanks
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I have solved the problem with my library.
I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder.
Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster
OP, do you by chance have a US HD2 with the stock TMOUS class 2 SD card? I think the issue may be the slow card. For instance, the games that ship with the phone on the SD card have to be moved to the phone to play smoothly due to the "slowness" of the card.
I believe the suggestion from muzens has worked for some.
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OP, do you by chance have a US HD2 with the stock TMOUS class 2 SD card? I think the issue may be the slow card. For instance, the games that ship with the phone on the SD card have to be moved to the phone to play smoothly due to the "slowness" of the card.
I believe the suggestion from muzens has worked for some.
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I think it it, I see 2 on the card.
As far as my issue, I guess there is no way an HD2 can handle 2000 MP3's, So I will delete as much as I can until it works ok.
Unless anyone else has another solution.
Thanks
richsark said:
I think it it, I see 2 on the card.
As far as my issue, I guess there is no way an HD2 can handle 2000 MP3's, So I will delete as much as I can until it works ok.
Unless anyone else has another solution.
Thanks
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Update: I just updated NRGZ28 Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.11.7z from Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.09
and to me looks like the sluggish has gone, while the music is being built, now I can slide to another tab. I also noticed the the songs start appearing/built a hole hell of lot faster.
I have not seen the release notes yet, but whatever is there is more satisfied for me now.
Thanks
richsark said:
Update: I just updated NRGZ28 Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.11.7z from Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.09
and to me looks like the sluggish has gone, while the music is being built, now I can slide to another tab. I also noticed the the songs start appearing/built a hole hell of lot faster.
I have not seen the release notes yet, but whatever is there is more satisfied for me now.
Thanks
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Could you tell us if you have your music in folder like mentioned above?
"I have solved the problem with my library. I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder. Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster."
I'd really like to know if I'm going to run into the same problems if I decide to ditch my iPod.
Hello all,
The best solution to the Sense music player being slow when there are 100's of tracks is to split the files over several folders on the root (cut & paste).
Keep this to around 50-60 tracks in any one folder. For exanple is the Music folder on my MicroSD card I have created 0-A, B-C, D-F, etc. and place all the tracks in order of the fist letter. This can be easily done by plugging in your USB cable to the device and selecting Disk Drive.
Once you have done this, reset your device and go to the music tab, it will then perform one scan and you will not get any delay thereafter.
muzens said:
I have solved the problem with my library.
I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder.
Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster
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that's how I arrange my mp3.
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
zelendel said:
I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
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Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
rickyzone said:
Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
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I have looked in the reg and have not found anything. I think it is hard coded in the manila files as I noticed the change from sense 2.1 to 2.5. If I find anything Ill let you know
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
radzi said:
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
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I noticed the music thing today also. But when you update your library via windows media player, it seems to find all the music. At least, did for me. That fixed that issue, maybe music tab and windows media player are connected some way?
The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
Thanks for this, if I still had my HD2 I would test it XD
travis.garrison said:
The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
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rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
toreone said:
This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
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I tried that and it didn't have any effect on my load time. The cab did because it enabled the data to be cached, but starting the HTC audio manager in theory will only start the audio manager on startup which gives the appearance of a faster load because the data is being loaded while the phone starts and by the time you get to music it should be done.
My theory is that every time you slide away from the audio manager it closes the app and when you reopen it (thus have to reload the playlist) you're gonna get long load times once again. I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but I know the behavior on my device had nothing to do with starting the audiomanager on startup
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
Wingtytn, et al-
Thank you guys very much for your helpfulness. I am however getting a little tired of hearing the music, tags and the lunar cycle being blamed. While, yes, it's true that music can cause problems, that isn't the case here.
#1- If I open the music directly in Windows Media Player (on the phone) it not only loads instantly, but plays instantly and skips through songs without any hesitation. It also has no trouble keeping the shuffle setting on.
#2- This problem has occurred over the fresh installation of many ROMs. Every time I install a new ROM I delete any non-user created data on the SD Card, Hard Reset the Phone, Task29, then flash the ROM. The FIRST thing I do is check to see if these bugs still occur in the Sense Media Player, and inevitably they do.
#3- The first thing I did when I got this phone was to format the MicroSD card. It's the one that came with the phone, so I know it's not a compatibility issue.
#4- My music library is maintained and synced with my phone via Media Monkey Gold. It has been for some time and Media Monkey does a PHENOMENAL job at updating tracks' tags and checking file names.
If you still think its the music, see #1, and note that it works just fine on my laptop and the 16GB USB memory stick that I sync with to plug into the headunit in my car.
Then if you still think it's the music go ahead and post again that you think it's the music since it hasn't already been suggested and debunked (in my case) ad nauseum.
This rant has been brought to you by the letter 'V' and the number '5'
wingtytn said:
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
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thanks for the .cab made me love the hd2 even more....
wow
i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
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i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
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Well, I've never tried that scenario. Does it have that behavior in portrait mode too? I just tried to recreate the problem but wasn't able to (it seemed to behave itself for me.
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I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
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Seriously, this thread is for people who are trying to get the Sense Media Player working correctly, NOT taking suggestions about which other media player to use. Yes there are other media players out there and they're all great I'm sure, BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE THEM SO STOP SUGGESTING THEM AND POST FIXES OR WORK AROUNDS. thank you.
what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
Aside from putting the Audiomanager shortcut in the startup folder, the cure for my music tab lag was simply 'not having every song in a single playlist'. I have 10GB of music on my SD card, and that's a lot of music to have on a single playlist, given Audiomanager annoyingly attempts to cache the entire Now Playing list including art every time you open it. Try selecting one artist/album at a time - works for me without fail.
I do really, really wish Audiomanager had the alphabet search function the contact manager has. And the ability to add albums/songs to Now Playing on the fly without creating a new playlist. Ah well, can't win 'em all - I won't sacrifice the Sense integration.
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what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
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This could potentially work. However here is a few things to look out for:
- Make sure it's legit class 6. At $50 if you got it from China then it's iffy about whether it's legit.
- The bottleneck might be the hardware card reader on the phone. If the card is capable of class 6 speeds but the reader will only read at, say, class 4 speeds then you won't see the speeds you are looking for.
Can you think about doing some more accurate testing with this? Here is what I suggest. Get a stopwatch, and media monkey. Sync all of your music on the old card with media monkey. Do a hard reset on the phone (so that no cabs are installed and it has the really slow start times). Collect 5-10 sample times with the stopwatch.
When you get your new card do the same thing. Sync all of your songs using media monkey, then hard reset and collect 5-10 startup times with the stopwatch and report your data.
The problem with simply "finger counting" is that if the numbers are negligible then you could get a placebo effect so that it "seems" faster but with no hard numbers you can't really tell.
Used to work fine but over the weekend my phone started crashing whenever i went to music tab. have scince done several har resets and tryed different rom flashes. no longer crashes but wont find the music.
currently useing miri-dinik (anastacia) rom, and and sandisk 32gb class 4 card.
Sense player origonaly found the music when rom first flashed last night but after a couple of hours stoped working. Windows media player still finds it all and plays it no problem.
can anybody help.
Correction!
have just realised sense player done find them in all songs tab but will not display anything under the artist album or genres tab
Please help i have a lot of music so browsing all 25gb by song title only is hell.
I found this on the HD2 and HD Mini when moving from a 16Gb to 32Gb MicroSD card; I suspect it's a problem with not being able to read data from the card quickly enough, and will required a ROM patch/update.
Same thing here, music stops after a few seconds and music player in landscape will give me a 'no music found' error.
I can see my music in the all songs tab, but in the albums tab I see none.
I tried 3 different ROMs Artemis, energy and for now Cleanex, all with the same error.
I tried formatting the SD-card (16GB) and sync all my songs with WMP, this did the trick for about 5 minutes
Really frustrating because music player is the app I use the most.
where are y'all finding 32gb micro sd's??? (legit ones)
I'm having this exact same problem. Normaly the musicplayer would always load the songs but now it just can't organise it anymore. I can view all my songs on the all songs tab though, but I like to listen to albums, so this is not an option for me, neither a different player, because I actually liked this one till it gave me this problem.
What I found out:
- The player will work again when you perform an hard-reset, but when you're doing your first soft-reset, the musicplayer stops working and is unable to organise the songs.
- After a hard-reset, your also not supposed to take out your SD-card, because you will get the same problem again.
- The player also starts working again if you delete \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Audiomanger_Eng.vol, but after one single soft-reset it will stop working.
Does anybody have a solution to this problem? I also tried to format my SD-card, but it gave me the same problem. The music player always worked for me, till now. I would really appreciate help.
P.S. Sorry for any grammar or spell faults, I'm dutch.
I had the same problem and solved it by formating my SD card and copy all contens back to the SD card. After a soft reset of the Phone it could find the music and play without stopping again.
Unfortunately it didn't work for me. Any other solutions?
The only original SanDisk 32 GB mSD is CLASS 2 ! There is no CLASS 4
Maybe You got faked mSDs ?
No mine is from Kingston and it is Class 2 and it's 16 GB. Like I said it always worked till now.
Sorry for the double post, but I just really want my musicplayer working again, it's one of the main reasons I bought this phone. Does anyone have the solution for this problem?
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Sorry for the double post, but I just really want my musicplayer working again, it's one of the main reasons I bought this phone. Does anyone have the solution for this problem?
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How did you your music on the card? when I first got my hd2, I just basically copied my music folder from my pc by the typical "drag n drop" method which rendered the sense music player pretty much useless. What I did was have Itunes on my pc organize, (File/Library/Organize Library), the library and then locate this folder in the music folder, (Music/Itunes/Itunes Music/Music). Open that music folder and you will see that Itunes has filed the music by artist alphabetically. I then selected all these folders and copied them over (except for ringtones and podcasts folder) and have had no problems since.
Basically I think that since we are dealing with a phone that is a Windows based system, the more you can organize folders in a directory oriented manner, the better. Wether this will solve your problem or not, I really don't know. I read another post where a hd2 owner made a directory of alphabetical folders, A,B,C, etc, and put the artists in each folder accordingly and had similar results. Again, don't know if it will help or not.
Also, I don't use the WMP. Don't like it, never have liked it even on my pc. On the hd2 it seems shaky at best so I stay away from it. Just my personal experience.