I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
zelendel said:
I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
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Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
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Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
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I have looked in the reg and have not found anything. I think it is hard coded in the manila files as I noticed the change from sense 2.1 to 2.5. If I find anything Ill let you know
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
radzi said:
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
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I noticed the music thing today also. But when you update your library via windows media player, it seems to find all the music. At least, did for me. That fixed that issue, maybe music tab and windows media player are connected some way?
The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
Thanks for this, if I still had my HD2 I would test it XD
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The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
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rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
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This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
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I tried that and it didn't have any effect on my load time. The cab did because it enabled the data to be cached, but starting the HTC audio manager in theory will only start the audio manager on startup which gives the appearance of a faster load because the data is being loaded while the phone starts and by the time you get to music it should be done.
My theory is that every time you slide away from the audio manager it closes the app and when you reopen it (thus have to reload the playlist) you're gonna get long load times once again. I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but I know the behavior on my device had nothing to do with starting the audiomanager on startup
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
Wingtytn, et al-
Thank you guys very much for your helpfulness. I am however getting a little tired of hearing the music, tags and the lunar cycle being blamed. While, yes, it's true that music can cause problems, that isn't the case here.
#1- If I open the music directly in Windows Media Player (on the phone) it not only loads instantly, but plays instantly and skips through songs without any hesitation. It also has no trouble keeping the shuffle setting on.
#2- This problem has occurred over the fresh installation of many ROMs. Every time I install a new ROM I delete any non-user created data on the SD Card, Hard Reset the Phone, Task29, then flash the ROM. The FIRST thing I do is check to see if these bugs still occur in the Sense Media Player, and inevitably they do.
#3- The first thing I did when I got this phone was to format the MicroSD card. It's the one that came with the phone, so I know it's not a compatibility issue.
#4- My music library is maintained and synced with my phone via Media Monkey Gold. It has been for some time and Media Monkey does a PHENOMENAL job at updating tracks' tags and checking file names.
If you still think its the music, see #1, and note that it works just fine on my laptop and the 16GB USB memory stick that I sync with to plug into the headunit in my car.
Then if you still think it's the music go ahead and post again that you think it's the music since it hasn't already been suggested and debunked (in my case) ad nauseum.
This rant has been brought to you by the letter 'V' and the number '5'
wingtytn said:
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
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thanks for the .cab made me love the hd2 even more....
wow
i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
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i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
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Well, I've never tried that scenario. Does it have that behavior in portrait mode too? I just tried to recreate the problem but wasn't able to (it seemed to behave itself for me.
speoples20 said:
I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
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Seriously, this thread is for people who are trying to get the Sense Media Player working correctly, NOT taking suggestions about which other media player to use. Yes there are other media players out there and they're all great I'm sure, BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE THEM SO STOP SUGGESTING THEM AND POST FIXES OR WORK AROUNDS. thank you.
what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
Aside from putting the Audiomanager shortcut in the startup folder, the cure for my music tab lag was simply 'not having every song in a single playlist'. I have 10GB of music on my SD card, and that's a lot of music to have on a single playlist, given Audiomanager annoyingly attempts to cache the entire Now Playing list including art every time you open it. Try selecting one artist/album at a time - works for me without fail.
I do really, really wish Audiomanager had the alphabet search function the contact manager has. And the ability to add albums/songs to Now Playing on the fly without creating a new playlist. Ah well, can't win 'em all - I won't sacrifice the Sense integration.
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what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
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This could potentially work. However here is a few things to look out for:
- Make sure it's legit class 6. At $50 if you got it from China then it's iffy about whether it's legit.
- The bottleneck might be the hardware card reader on the phone. If the card is capable of class 6 speeds but the reader will only read at, say, class 4 speeds then you won't see the speeds you are looking for.
Can you think about doing some more accurate testing with this? Here is what I suggest. Get a stopwatch, and media monkey. Sync all of your music on the old card with media monkey. Do a hard reset on the phone (so that no cabs are installed and it has the really slow start times). Collect 5-10 sample times with the stopwatch.
When you get your new card do the same thing. Sync all of your songs using media monkey, then hard reset and collect 5-10 startup times with the stopwatch and report your data.
The problem with simply "finger counting" is that if the numbers are negligible then you could get a placebo effect so that it "seems" faster but with no hard numbers you can't really tell.
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hi there
ive synced my hd with wmp and all my songs etc are on there fine in mobile wmp. all the individual songs show up on the songs tab in the tf3d music player as well but my problem is when i go to the artists tab, it shows enough artists to fill the screen but when i finger scroll to go further down, the list just disappears, like theres only the first 10 or so artists and then theres nothing.
has anyone else had this problem?
ive resynced a couple of times, deleted the audiomanager.vol file etc but still the same problem. plus it takes over 2hrs to sync so i dont want to do it that often. have over 2000 tracks.
cheers for any help
just bumping up to get help
i got the same problem... but what doesnt work in my player is the current playlist and songs...
just uploaded a vid 1 minute ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZZF-Vm-lrQ
Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
I know this is not a great help, but you should really try CorePlayer. It has a media library, which works quite well .
i have coreplayer and use it for videos but for music (normally also for vids but wmp suxx rele bad [-> codecs]) i always prefered the built-in player.. usually u only listen with shuffle coz i need variety ^.-
i just dont wanna use an extra player coz its an extra app and i wanna avoid that as far as possible.
what i really miss is a hardware button or something like that to chance to the next song.. i used a sony ericsson w850i walkman phone for the last 2 years and i could use the volume buttons (long press) to navigate through the playlist without turning the display on, thats hell useful when its in the pocket, especially when ur riding a bike.
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Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
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well.. since its not possible to even chose the music dir (seems to must be in <root>/music) the player should be designed to handle any amount of data. i only have 300 songs on there atm. usually i would have, like kauka187, 2000+ =)
i really hope there will be a good firmware update very soon...
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Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
I know this is not a great help, but you should really try CorePlayer. It has a media library, which works quite well .
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Yeah youre prob right about the amount of data.
ive got coreplayer to watch movies and s2p when i want to find a specific song (since theres no search function in built in the tf3d music player WTF!) to play so i guess they will have to do for now until htc hopefully comes up with an update because i really like the look and finger friendliness of their player.
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i got the same problem... but what doesnt work in my player is the current playlist and songs...
just uploaded a vid 1 minute ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZZF-Vm-lrQ
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just watched your vid and yeah i have exactly the same prob but like you said, my issue is in the artist tab.
you never know, some bright spark in this community may be able to come up with a fix
This seems to be a bug, I discovered it too with about 3000 songs on the player (which required a softreset for anything to show up in the TF3D menu)
It seems that when you try to scrol down, it snaps back to above the first artist.
When it happend to me I could get back to the other artists if I just scrolled down again.
There's still quite some bugs in the TF3D Player and I wouldn't mind replacing that tab with Coreplayer or WMP itself.
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I wouldn't mind replacing that tab with Coreplayer or WMP itself.
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is that possible? cos i would quite like that
I also have a problem in a ambum with 2 cds the music appears mixed, cd1 musics with cd2 music and are not for correct order, track 3 appears first then track1 for example. I have the collection correct numbered with correct music id. any idea to correct this and appear first track 1 of the cd1 then track2 and only when cd1 is over then starts cd2. Thanks sorry the english.
any idea please.
im going for a cooked rom... but i wanna hav language changeable to german and i learned that thats not the case on most :\
other than that (if that even fixes the problem) i havnt found a solution :|
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im going for a cooked rom... but i wanna hav language changeable to german and i learned that thats not the case on most :\
other than that (if that even fixes the problem) i havnt found a solution :|
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if a cooked rom does fix the prob could you report back here please. thanks
I may have just found a solution to some of the problems with the TF3D music player.
I loaded a bunch of new tracks onto my storage card via the USB cable earlier and edited some of the artist/album details on the tracks I added. The TF3D music player wasn't recognising the new tracks or the changes I'd made to the existing tracks. A soft reset didn't solve the problem. Removing and re-adding TF3D to the Today screen didn't solve the problem. The wrong details were still shown in the player. (As well as this, the Playlists tab wasn't working at all and I couldn't queue up new songs to play.)
Removing and re-inserting the SD card while the list of artists was showing on the HD's screen, however, HAS forced it to re-index the music on the card and now it's all perfect again. Perhaps someone else with a problem could try this?
Sequence:
- copy tracks to the card over the USB lead, or update artist/album details
- unplug USB cable
- go to Artists list in TF3D music library (leave TouchHD turned on)
- remove SD card
- list of artists is erased from screen
- insert SD card
- after a few seconds the list of artists is rebuilt correctly
Report back your results!
did just like you said and the list is built up again, but the list of songs and the now playing list still won't scroll..
yer me 2... just re-inserted the memory card but problem still occurs
the only thing i can think of is an encryption problem in the tags.. i used the musicbrains global database to tag my entire music in order to remove all problems in the tags. but since my tags are ALL tagged the exact same way i got trouble finding the problem ^^
Same problem here!
I had to rebuild my artist-list through updating in WMP. But problems remains to be solved...
I have 860 songs on my card, and it fails to scroll through Albums and All Songs.
Only Artists works.
I believe though, that it is a problem that HTC should solve, and not us. This is not an improvement, tweak or anything else.
This is a real error in the Player!
I tried to describe the problem to the technical support at HTC.
When (if) they respond, I will let you know.
awesome cheers
Update on problem and HTC Tech Support:
HTC has replied to my request, and their recommendation is to clean the card, and then sync it all again through WMP11.
I followed the procedure, but the problem remains (
Only positive thing, however, is that I now have A LOT more album covers!
I'll be back later...
I'm interested to know how others are getting on with the music tab in HTC sense. It took me a long time to get round to buying a 16GB card, but now I have I'm struggling to get the Music tab to function.
With a small collection of music it works just fine. However as I increase the collection at some point it breaks, so that it will only play a few seconds of a track before stopping, usually accompanied by a spinning circle in the top left of the screen, when that stops spinning the music stops. Something to do with indexing I'm assuming.
My music is organised in a fairly standard \Storage Card\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\ style format so there are no individually huge folders My favoured bitrate has been 192 so the files shouldn't be too big. I've tried syncing with Windows Media Player and with Mediamonkey. I've had mediamonkey convert all files as it syncs to WMA format or to MP3 at constant bitrate. All with the same results.
Who has the music tab functioning well with several GB's worth of music on their card? What settings did you use?
Of course I can just have WMP as a quick link on my first line whic happily plays everything and retains bluetooth AVRCP fuctionality. However the Music Tab interface is far nicer when it works.
<no longer true>My music tab isn't funtioning AT ALL, let alone well. It lists all my music (only 4 albums for experimenting, all tagged) alphabetically, and only draws the top half of the embedded albumart.
Doesn't even attempt to play, just sits there. Click next track, same - just draws half teh album art then sits there. Phone isn't hung or anything, just doesn't play.
Shame really, but i've not had it a week yet, so I'm gonna ignore it for now, and i'll look into it deeper once I have stopped playing with all the other bits.</no longer true>
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Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
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**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
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Yes,
I think using ActiveSync organises the files into a more easily accessible format/location, which is why I suggested it. Good to know that everything is working ok for you now though
OK, so I backed up everything on the card. Formatted the card using the phones built in application. Copied everything back except the music files.
Used Mediamonkey and set up an auto-conversion rule to convert everything it syncs to MP3 format at 192 bitrate whether it needs converting or not.
Updated the library in Media player on the HD2.
reset the HD2 and let the music tab re-index everything.
Everything is now working perfectly. Thanks for the opinions. Whether it was the phone format or just that I hadn't actually used those exact rules for syncing I can't say as mediamonkey was origionally setup to only convert files if it had to. I had issues with Windows Media Player missing out files.
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Everything is now working perfectly.
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Everything still perfect? I am almost able to sync without incident, but the "audio manager" crashes at the end of every sync (and, when prompted by the phone, I keep reporting the crash to Microsoft even though I don't expect them to get back to me anytime soon).
It also seems like I have to do a soft reset after each sync to shake out all of the bugs (missing album art, unplayable song files, etc.)
FWIW, I'm only syncing about 30 songs now until I have this sorted out, so having GBs worth of files isn't the problem (I was NEVER able to get 8GB of music to work in Manila's music tab on my Raphael).
id say that sounds more like an active sync issue.its never been the most stable program. why not simply connect in hard drive mode (or put memory card in card reader) and just drag and drop the music to it , then let the phone find it all itself.that'd be my preferred method.
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Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
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How do you format the card from the Phone?
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How do you format the card from the Phone?
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I can jump in and answer that one - press the Window key (third one along on the bottom) (or press the button at the top left) and go to tools and there at the bottom is a button to format the SD card.
One thing I would like to see is the ability for the player to decode .ogg files - I love gapless playback, and really miss it with mp3's. I am trying to rip some stuff now, but it is a pain having to rip multiple tracks to one mp3 file just to avoid the hop skip and jump when playing back.
All the best.
rjstep3
When I was having issues with my music tab I followed the format SD card and organised into Artist/Album/tracks but what really worked for me was converting my entire library into LAME mp3. 1500+ songs are now working perfectly. I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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dBpoweramp is certainly very good - but don't forget the free options as well, including foobar, Exact Audio Copy and Freerip3 - just Google for them.
rjstep3
i am also having a problem with the music.tab on the htc hd2. at first i was really plsased.with this phone but no w i am havekng countless problems with it...such as cudnt play videos with utube app installed...now this music nonsense.....i have spent toooo much mone on this phone t be getin these poblems and alsopurchased a 16gb card....i live tge hd2 .if only there was less problems
nyway has anyone found a working solution
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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I don't know why that would be, but if it works then it works!
I have a "MUSIC" folder on my SD card, and in that I have artist sub-folders and then within them I have album sub-folders. It all works fine for me. This is literally the same folder that I've had for the past 3 WM phones, and I just copied it there manually, without using any type of synch.
Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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Could be because of the length of the path/filename when sub folders are used?
EG
theartistfoldernamedartist/thenameofthealbum/theartistfoldernamedartist-thenameofthealbum-thetracknumber.mp3
Perhaps the scanner struggles to cope with long path/filenames?
Ive got this problem and i was wondering if it had anything to do with the quality of the storage card?
Edit:
REASON FOUND
"One bad apple spoils the barrel"
One badly encoded mp3 will make the entire player stop. I found this while playing mp3s on music tab whilst transfering new mp3s through drag and drop (active sync) as soon as one particular mp3 was transferred the player stop and music would stop after 2-5secs. After deleting this file and reaccessing music tab library it was back to normal.
Suggestions: leave music player on whilst drag and dropping so you can figure out which are the problem files.
Alternatively: Re-encode your mp3s, either all or the problem files only.
I have been having an intermitment problem with the music tab in that it works fine for most of the time but then suddenly when I open it I get the spinning circle at the top left and the whole thing has frozen. The only way to get it working is a soft reset.
It doesn't seem to be badly formatted mp3 as after the reset the file that was in the player will work again.
I transfer music from windows media player using the sync function.
It has never stopped working whilst playing only when I open the tab and I think a few times it has been when a track has been paused for some time.
Any ideas are welcome. . .
My music tab doesn't work properly every time after the device was connected via USB in external drive mode. The last played title keeps being displayed, the album it is in is shown in the library as well (as currently played items or however this the first list in the library is called in english) but nothing else is listed. And the little white circle keeps spinning and spinning... I let it spin for hours once but nothing happened. The SD card was formatted by the phone in the first place and I never get freezes once the player works properly.
After a soft reset everything works fine instantly but shouldn't there be a way to get it up and running without resetting everytime I use USB external drive mode???
ROM 1.66 GER, problem was present on clean ROM (before tweaks and tools), too.
Hey,
My hd2 is very slow in playing music. I've made a video from it to show you guys: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWbrBNKJ5wc
I have about a 1000 songs in my library each in a different folder by artist.
Can anyone help me?
Thank you in advance
Ive got 480 songs and mine also takes dat much time to load..... only on Khol,s rom (1 Gz hack) it would load instantly
Does anyone have any solution?
Try Nitrogen?
Teardrop45 said:
Ive got 480 songs and mine also takes dat much time to load..... only on Khol,s rom (1 Gz hack) it would load instantly
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i have 484 songs, and it most certainly dit NOT load instantly on kholk's roms, not the latest nor any of the previous ones.
The 1Ghz Hack, has been proven to the satisfaction of many, to be a fake.
g.lewarne said:
i have 484 songs, and it most certainly dit NOT load instantly on kholk's roms, not the latest nor any of the previous ones.
The 1Ghz Hack, has been proven to the satisfaction of many, to be a fake.
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So does everyone have the same problem as me? I can't find much from this problem on google, strange.
glennvho said:
Hey,
My hd2 is very slow in playing music. I've made a video from it to show you guys: youtube.com/watch?v=WWbrBNKJ5wc (just put www. in front of the link to view it, I can't post a direct link because I'm new here.)
I have about a 1000 songs in my library each in a different folder by artist.
Can anyone help me?
Thank you in advance
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Take everthing off your storage card and back it up, reformat your storage card fat32 32kb size reload all your stuff back on your card and let me know if it's faster!
DT39 said:
Take everthing off your storage card and back it up, reformat your storage card fat32 32kb size reload all your stuff back on your card and let me know if it's faster!
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I tried this but sadly no improvement at all.
But thanks for the help.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this problem?
I have the same issue, so I don´t use music tab any more, I use Slide2play, works great and I can switch from music player, desktop and navigator with taskfacade.
I agree this is a very annoying problem. The problem is that each time you do a soft reset the music player is re-indexing the musiclibra/ry . That's no good Maybe it worked with the two albums the developers tested the app, but with 100+ albums it is simply a "bug".
Every now and then I spend some time in trying to fix this. Still no results. Played with some registry settings, did some reformating, nothing nada rien.
I think the only way to fix this problem is to teach the music player to stop searching for new music (unless it is trigger by the user) and use the same indexfile again and again...
BTW the indexfile is located in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng and it is called AudioManager_Eng.vol
This file, on my device 2.4 Mb, is rebuild again and again and again - each time you do a softreset (or even when you restart Sense)
(Maybe someone can do something with this info)
alternatively you could try the following key:
hklm/software/htc/audiomanager_eng/config/resume_play_delay_time change it from 2000 (2 seconds) to 0
in the same key you can also try music_Player_index 1
athough i still dont know what that one does...
do you have anything else in the folders btw? album art is missing, if you connect via wifi or activsync and press the top left icon it should update the album art,. It may be something as stupid as trying to find that?
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I agree this is a very annoying problem. The problem is that each time you do a soft reset the music player is re-indexing the musiclibra/ry . That's no good Maybe it worked with the two albums the developers tested the app, but with 100+ albums it is simply a "bug".
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Its always been this way, and is the reason I moved to Pocket Player a couple of years back. Never looked back
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Its always been this way, and is the reason I moved to Pocket Player a couple of years back. Never looked back
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Yeah I know, Pocket Player is so much better. But i'm kinda used to the cover flow of the sense player. It so comfortable in the car. Just rotate the car-mount and then select another album/song while keeping the eyes on the road. Way much better then the list view of pocket player. But apart from that....
fards said:
alternatively you could try the following key:
hklm/software/htc/audiomanager_eng/config/resume_play_delay_time change it from 2000 (2 seconds) to 0
in the same key you can also try music_Player_index 1
athough i still dont know what that one does...
do you have anything else in the folders btw? album art is missing, if you connect via wifi or activsync and press the top left icon it should update the album art,. It may be something as stupid as trying to find that?
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Ok, I have changed those 2 strings you suggested and then I did a soft reset in order to apply the changes.
But still no improvement at all.
Also I have only music in my music folder and nothing else except for the album art offcourse.
Btw, I know you can update the album art and I have done that several times already but for some songs it doesn't find any album art at all.
Maybe this would help...
Well, I had some succes. I have approx. 800 mp3 and they load in about 3-4 seconds.
But you have to open Mediaplayer and index them first.
Before I indexed it took about 5 minutes to load.
The indexing made a difference.
could be a dodgy tag. try clearing your card, then move over your music a few albums at a time.sees if any particular album makes a difference.I had a single track one time that crashed most music players I tried. non standard characters in one of the tags.
alternatively, got any files with excessively long names?
Well I tried to first index all my music with media player. It added about 920 songs. Then I closed mediaplayer and I went back to sense and went to the music tab bus sadly still nog improvement for me. But it was worth trying.
@samsamsuel: I have no dodgy tags, i converted them all with mp3tag. But yes I think I have some long tags in there, I could try to shorten them a bit. Hope this will work.
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Well I tried to first index all my music with media player. It added about 920 songs. Then I closed mediaplayer and I went back to sense and went to the music tab bus sadly still nog improvement for me. But it was worth trying.
@samsamsuel: I have no dodgy tags, i converted them all with mp3tag. But yes I think I have some long tags in there, I could try to shorten them a bit. Hope this will work.
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If you solved this problem please report it back here. I have 1700 files, so... you know
Ok I have converted all my tags to ID3v2.4 and I also shotened al the tags because I had a few of them wich were a bit long I thought.
Also I have deleted all the : , & @ / symbols in my tags.
But still there is no improvement at all. It still takes about 15-16 seconds to show the song title and artist like shown in the video. So all this work was for nothing.
Hi,
Two Issues I need help on:
1. I just transferred 2000 mp3 to my sd card/Music phone is supper slow, locks up.
2. When I get my song list up, Most of them shows ! on it. Some do and some dont, perhaps the list got corrupted as those were the mp3 I had before which I deleted and transferred a new set of 2000 mp3's to /sdcard/Music
What can I do? I first had 200 mp3's and it was Ok. Is there a limit??
Thanks
richsark said:
Hi,
Two Issues I need help on:
1. I just transferred 2000 mp3 to my sd card/Music phone is supper slow, locks up.
2. When I get my song list up, Most of them shows ! on it. Some do and some dont, perhaps the list got corrupted as those were the mp3 I had before which I deleted and transferred a new set of 2000 mp3's to /sdcard/Music
What can I do? I first had 200 mp3's and it was Ok. Is there a limit??
Thanks
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I guess I am alone on this one. I dont have a clue how to solve this one.
Any body??
not sure how many mp3 I have, but I do have close to 14G of mp3s, so it should be more, if not close to 2000 mp3 you have.
I don't have any slowness, did you experience it every time you reset, or it happens even after 1-2 hours after your last reset?
and btw, you get better response in the HD2 theme and app forum.
1. Did you format the sd card (fat 32) prior to importing the files?
2. Are you on Stock 1.66 ROM?
3. TBH I have yet to hear of anyone with so much number of MP3 files that HTC Music Player can handle.
4. use WM media player
or some other third party
As suggested above, format the microSD card. A corrupt microSD card can really slow down a smartphone.
Also, see if WMP handles the files well. Many media players for WM choke on large libraries. For all of it's ugliness, WMP seems to handle large libraries fairly well.
zenkinz said:
not sure how many mp3 I have, but I do have close to 14G of mp3s, so it should be more, if not close to 2000 mp3 you have.
I don't have any slowness, did you experience it every time you reset, or it happens even after 1-2 hours after your last reset?
and btw, you get better response in the HD2 theme and app forum.
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HI, I just did a hard-reset, when I slide over to the Music Icon, it now says searching and I get a spinning circle, songs are appearing slowly, but I wanted to know, is it perhaps the spinning circle has something to do with the lag, I mean, If you side over to music icon, should it not pop up and show the songs /sdcard/music ??
What is it trying to do? and can I stop it?? I cant imagine that this HD2 craps out on 1900 mp3's ( cleared up a few )
My SDCard is at FAT32 already
Should I try another ROM like [ROM] Artemis HD2 v9.0 [WWE|GER|FRA|ITA|ELL|SPA|PTG|RUS|NLD|NOR|SVE] WM6.5.5+Leo 2.10 ????
Or... am I not doing it right to put all the mp3 on the sdcad??
jigners said:
1. Did you format the sd card (fat 32) prior to importing the files?
2. Are you on Stock 1.66 ROM?
3. TBH I have yet to hear of anyone with so much number of MP3 files that HTC Music Player can handle.
4. use WM media player
or some other third party
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HI,
Card was already at Fat32, did not format, however its hot on the back side
I am using ( see Signature) [ROM][WWE][25.03] LEON v1.5 [WM6.5 - 21889][BASE: v2.10][576Mb RAM Enabled][UC] - OUT
richsark said:
HI, I just did a hard-reset, when I slide over to the Music Icon, it now says searching and I get a spinning circle, songs are appearing slowly, but I wanted to know, is it perhaps the spinning circle has something to do with the lag, I mean, If you side over to music icon, should it not pop up and show the songs /sdcard/music ??
What is it trying to do? and can I stop it?? I cant imagine that this HD2 craps out on 1900 mp3's ( cleared up a few )
My SDCard is at FAT32 already
Should I try another ROM like [ROM] Artemis HD2 v9.0 [WWE|GER|FRA|ITA|ELL|SPA|PTG|RUS|NLD|NOR|SVE] WM6.5.5+Leo 2.10 ????
Or... am I not doing it right to put all the mp3 on the sdcad??
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every time you soft reset the phone, the audio manager will rebuild the library. So that spining icon describe that situation.
it shouldnt' take ages to rebuild the library though. Usually, 10-20 secs is all it need, (just a ball park estimate, but you get the idea of the duration)
there's some lag though, on stock rom or rom that doesn't use extendir, when you swipe over to the music tab. i.e. it'll take a few second before the music tab shows up, and before that, it'll look as if the music tab / music player is hung.
I'm not sure how many chef has use extendir, I know bobsbbq, myself and I think scotsman have that build that in the rom.
I have alot of MP3's (6-7GB) on my SD card. A reason for the sluggish HD2 could be because when you first select the music tab after a soft reset, the music library rebuild itself (search for all the track again).
After 20 mins my library is rebuilt and the phone is back to its blazing self again.
I let it search once, then dont reset my phone until necessary!
Hope this helps
EDIT: replying whilst the post above, was posted...sorry.
muzens said:
I have alot of MP3's (6-7GB) on my SD card. A reason for the sluggish HD2 could be because when you first select the music tab after a soft reset, the music library rebuild itself (search for all the track again).
After 20 mins my library is rebuilt and the phone is back to its blazing self again.
I let it search once, then dont reset my phone until necessary!
Hope this helps
EDIT: replying whilst the post above, was posted...sorry.
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20mins is abit too long
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20mins is abit too long
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That is what I thought, maybe it has something to do with the album art.
On a lot of albums the art is the same (it has copied one cover to lots of albums).
I will format again and see if the is a difference.
Thanks
muzens said:
That is what I thought, maybe it has something to do with the album art.
On a lot of albums the art is the same (it has copied one cover to lots of albums).
I will format again and see if the is a difference.
Thanks
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Yes, who has time for that?? Can you shut off the album art search?? I think this is crazy that this fantastic HD2 cant stink-in handle mp3's.
There must be somethin that can be done??
20 min is too long, my workout would be finished first before I have a chance to listen.
Thanks
richsark said:
Yes, who has time for that?? Can you shut off the album art search?? I think this is crazy that this fantastic HD2 cant stink-in handle mp3's.
There must be somethin that can be done??
20 min is too long, my workout would be finished first before I have a chance to listen.
Thanks
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I have solved the problem with my library.
I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder.
Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster
OP, do you by chance have a US HD2 with the stock TMOUS class 2 SD card? I think the issue may be the slow card. For instance, the games that ship with the phone on the SD card have to be moved to the phone to play smoothly due to the "slowness" of the card.
I believe the suggestion from muzens has worked for some.
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OP, do you by chance have a US HD2 with the stock TMOUS class 2 SD card? I think the issue may be the slow card. For instance, the games that ship with the phone on the SD card have to be moved to the phone to play smoothly due to the "slowness" of the card.
I believe the suggestion from muzens has worked for some.
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I think it it, I see 2 on the card.
As far as my issue, I guess there is no way an HD2 can handle 2000 MP3's, So I will delete as much as I can until it works ok.
Unless anyone else has another solution.
Thanks
richsark said:
I think it it, I see 2 on the card.
As far as my issue, I guess there is no way an HD2 can handle 2000 MP3's, So I will delete as much as I can until it works ok.
Unless anyone else has another solution.
Thanks
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Update: I just updated NRGZ28 Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.11.7z from Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.09
and to me looks like the sluggish has gone, while the music is being built, now I can slide to another tab. I also noticed the the songs start appearing/built a hole hell of lot faster.
I have not seen the release notes yet, but whatever is there is more satisfied for me now.
Thanks
richsark said:
Update: I just updated NRGZ28 Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.11.7z from Energy.Leo.21898.Sense2.5_Cookie_HomeTab.Apr.09
and to me looks like the sluggish has gone, while the music is being built, now I can slide to another tab. I also noticed the the songs start appearing/built a hole hell of lot faster.
I have not seen the release notes yet, but whatever is there is more satisfied for me now.
Thanks
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Could you tell us if you have your music in folder like mentioned above?
"I have solved the problem with my library. I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder. Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster."
I'd really like to know if I'm going to run into the same problems if I decide to ditch my iPod.
Hello all,
The best solution to the Sense music player being slow when there are 100's of tracks is to split the files over several folders on the root (cut & paste).
Keep this to around 50-60 tracks in any one folder. For exanple is the Music folder on my MicroSD card I have created 0-A, B-C, D-F, etc. and place all the tracks in order of the fist letter. This can be easily done by plugging in your USB cable to the device and selecting Disk Drive.
Once you have done this, reset your device and go to the music tab, it will then perform one scan and you will not get any delay thereafter.
muzens said:
I have solved the problem with my library.
I have spent today re-arranging my music files into folders ARTIST>ALBUM>SONGS.
Before I had all the songs/files labeled e.g. "Artist - Song Name" in one "music" folder.
Now it only takes about 10 secs to rebuild the library. Much faster
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that's how I arrange my mp3.
Used to work fine but over the weekend my phone started crashing whenever i went to music tab. have scince done several har resets and tryed different rom flashes. no longer crashes but wont find the music.
currently useing miri-dinik (anastacia) rom, and and sandisk 32gb class 4 card.
Sense player origonaly found the music when rom first flashed last night but after a couple of hours stoped working. Windows media player still finds it all and plays it no problem.
can anybody help.
Correction!
have just realised sense player done find them in all songs tab but will not display anything under the artist album or genres tab
Please help i have a lot of music so browsing all 25gb by song title only is hell.
I found this on the HD2 and HD Mini when moving from a 16Gb to 32Gb MicroSD card; I suspect it's a problem with not being able to read data from the card quickly enough, and will required a ROM patch/update.
Same thing here, music stops after a few seconds and music player in landscape will give me a 'no music found' error.
I can see my music in the all songs tab, but in the albums tab I see none.
I tried 3 different ROMs Artemis, energy and for now Cleanex, all with the same error.
I tried formatting the SD-card (16GB) and sync all my songs with WMP, this did the trick for about 5 minutes
Really frustrating because music player is the app I use the most.
where are y'all finding 32gb micro sd's??? (legit ones)
I'm having this exact same problem. Normaly the musicplayer would always load the songs but now it just can't organise it anymore. I can view all my songs on the all songs tab though, but I like to listen to albums, so this is not an option for me, neither a different player, because I actually liked this one till it gave me this problem.
What I found out:
- The player will work again when you perform an hard-reset, but when you're doing your first soft-reset, the musicplayer stops working and is unable to organise the songs.
- After a hard-reset, your also not supposed to take out your SD-card, because you will get the same problem again.
- The player also starts working again if you delete \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Audiomanger_Eng.vol, but after one single soft-reset it will stop working.
Does anybody have a solution to this problem? I also tried to format my SD-card, but it gave me the same problem. The music player always worked for me, till now. I would really appreciate help.
P.S. Sorry for any grammar or spell faults, I'm dutch.
I had the same problem and solved it by formating my SD card and copy all contens back to the SD card. After a soft reset of the Phone it could find the music and play without stopping again.
Unfortunately it didn't work for me. Any other solutions?
The only original SanDisk 32 GB mSD is CLASS 2 ! There is no CLASS 4
Maybe You got faked mSDs ?
No mine is from Kingston and it is Class 2 and it's 16 GB. Like I said it always worked till now.
Sorry for the double post, but I just really want my musicplayer working again, it's one of the main reasons I bought this phone. Does anyone have the solution for this problem?
Daan0 said:
Sorry for the double post, but I just really want my musicplayer working again, it's one of the main reasons I bought this phone. Does anyone have the solution for this problem?
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How did you your music on the card? when I first got my hd2, I just basically copied my music folder from my pc by the typical "drag n drop" method which rendered the sense music player pretty much useless. What I did was have Itunes on my pc organize, (File/Library/Organize Library), the library and then locate this folder in the music folder, (Music/Itunes/Itunes Music/Music). Open that music folder and you will see that Itunes has filed the music by artist alphabetically. I then selected all these folders and copied them over (except for ringtones and podcasts folder) and have had no problems since.
Basically I think that since we are dealing with a phone that is a Windows based system, the more you can organize folders in a directory oriented manner, the better. Wether this will solve your problem or not, I really don't know. I read another post where a hd2 owner made a directory of alphabetical folders, A,B,C, etc, and put the artists in each folder accordingly and had similar results. Again, don't know if it will help or not.
Also, I don't use the WMP. Don't like it, never have liked it even on my pc. On the hd2 it seems shaky at best so I stay away from it. Just my personal experience.