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shift does not startup please help

hello
my shift does not startup when i shutdown it
snapvue work but another side does not even htc start screen does not come i mean nothing just black screen
it wont start until i plug out the battery for about 20 minute so
when put it back its start again
so can any one help me
me shift is new i buy it before 3 day
please help........

i have these prog on it
autocad , photoshop , kmplayer
, the htc update for side bar and start the readyboost only .

and now even when plug the battery vista side
show nothing (black screen ) even the under screen light just the first light
is on another does not
snapvue work normal

Have you tried erasing hard disk?
With all that programs you might have run out of space..

thanks for reply but am sure am not out of space there is alot of
space and how can i delete the hard if i cant open the vista
even the screen with htc mark does not show only black
i start feeling that shift is not good device in use i think its
tooooo sensitive
or maybe only my device
what about you guys ?

If you are not even getting the HTC boot screen on Vista side it sounds as if you have a serious hardware problem.
Have you done any hardware modifications?
If not then I urge you to return the device under Warranty.

Why not using Fn + F3 at boot time to reinstall vista?

how can i do that if the boot time does not come
only black screen
and thanks guy for reply
by the way does the shift made in china ?

You don't even see the bios messages?

I will try to imagine this can be a stupid situation. Just try this:
Push the power button for 10 seconds and see if something happens.
After that, try again to push the power button.
If it works and you see the bios, press FN+F3 and don't install too much thinks on your device.

pof said:
You don't even see the bios messages?
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yes i see nothing
I will try to imagine this can be a stupid situation. Just try this:
Push the power button for 10 seconds and see if something happens.
After that, try again to push the power button.
If it works and you see the bios, press FN+F3 and don't install too much thinks on your device
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you mean push for 10 sec when device on and then on it again ?

scopy60 said:
yes i see nothing
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Then RMA it.

sorry pof but what you mean ? RMA?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_Merchandise_Authorization

but it start some time

If it was your car and it only run sometimes, wouldn't you return it then? Why should you act differently with a computer?? Of course you should RMA it.

And in the first post says the shift is only 3 days old, so he could claim DOA (Dead On Arrival) and get a new device.

ok
thanks pof and other guy who reply
regard ....
by the way pof how i can install xp on shift
without cd

I have the same problem but with white screento bleck screen
also I can't enter to the bios manager (Fn+F3) the only screen is the blank white screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2319538#post2319538

do you have a Warranty
if you have then return it on the Warranty
i think this is your only option
oh my god now am sure about bad made for shift

WHO CAN HELP ME in this Thread... please!

I have a BIG problem because I install this app 'EveryWAN-Remote-Support-3-0-15760' from this http://www.sparus-software.com/spip....wnload&lang=en and I don't know why... my HD is death now I was in activesync with this app and I try all tools TaskManager, FileStorage and when I click the icon 'turn-off screen'... no more HD..., no charge... dont soft-reset, don't bootloader, etc. I'am now very un-happy because I don't understand what's happen with my HD

If nothing else work, why don't you try a hard reset?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL795s1bY4 <- second half of the video is how you do it.

Hi,
Have you tried to remove the battery, wait a little, and place it back?
Also, refer to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465601
Regards,
P.

Thanks for your help... I know do a Hard-Reset but the problem is don't charge, don't show the red led in top charging also, I put off the battery 20 minutes and no way... don't work the button Power... don't work the button Soft-Reset, I can't enter in Bootloader mode...

Hi,
Have you checked that thread I mentioned?
Look specially at this post:
pdc4 said:
Well, some other things to try:
- check if some button (including soft reset) is mal-functioning. Try to release, or clean them.
- is any card (sim or memory) in the phone? If yes, remove them.
- has the phone been exposed to moisture, liquids? ensure that it is dried out, but do not expose it directly to heat or to a dryer...
- try to connect the charger to the phone without battery, leave it a little then disconnect, then place battery and finally the charger , trying to power on
- have you contacted the author of the rom about the issue? Maybe he might have some ideas ...
Good luck!
Regards,
P.
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Yes I check and I follow all... my Rom is Pzucchell 1.7 but... when I have this problem... I was in AS with this app EveryWAN Remote and like I say before... when I click Turn-off screen I only see similar this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3106017&postcount=22

Removing/Disabling SnapVUE

I have searched and searched, but can't seem to find out if anyone has figured out a way to remove or disable SnapVUE completely.
I never use it, and I don't use the 3G modem so I don't need it at all.
It drains the battery and is annoying the hell out of me.
Is there any way to remove it, prevent it from starting or anything ?
-mortenft

Hmmm. I have always heard the other way.
MortenFT said:
I have searched and searched, but can't seem to find out if anyone has figured out a way to remove or disable SnapVUE completely.
I never use it, and I don't use the 3G modem so I don't need it at all.
It drains the battery and is annoying the hell out of me.
Is there any way to remove it, prevent it from starting or anything ?
-mortenft
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I have always heard the other way of getting rid of Windows Vista and run more versatile SnapVue/Windows Mobile. You are the first one to ask kill SnapVue and 3G Modem. My sicere suggestion is get rid of Shift and buy a decent netbook or UMPC like Samsung Q1, ASUS R2H, RAON Everun etc. They all can run Vista and you can add broadband modem always, if you need one.
Thanks
Ram

In SnapVUE go to Settings > Power > Advanced
Here you can set the device to turn of if not used. Check both boxes and then set the wait time to 2 minutes. Then wait 2 minutes... SnapVUE will shutdown and will not come back unless you reset it in Vista.
Can be very weird knowing if you have turned Vista on after doing this though. A little jiggleing of the on/off slide button will do it. The SnapVUE button will return you to a blank SnapVUE (its blank because it is turned off) but will not return you to Vista - you'll have to jig with the on/off button.

saiweb said:
My sicere suggestion is get rid of Shift and buy a decent netbook
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If there was some way of selling my Shift for a decent price (compared to what I paid for it) then I would. However, selling it with $5-600 loss to buy a netbook doesn't make good economics too me. That is why I wanted to get rid of SnapVUE so it doesn't drain the battery, and I can actually use the damn thing as I intended, having it in my livingroom to do "quick surfing" etc.
Now, if I leave it unplugged for more than a few days, it is empty, and I have to plug it in and use it with the cable pluged in. then, the next time I want to use it again, I have unplugged it - and so the story goes.
A really expensive piece of sh*t is my oppinion

King Reeky said:
In SnapVUE go to Settings > Power > Advanced
Here you can set the device to turn of if not used. Check both boxes and then set the wait time to 2 minutes. Then wait 2 minutes... SnapVUE will shutdown and will not come back unless you reset it in Vista.
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I tried this. After 2 minutes the screen goes blank. Great I thouht - but I wanted to check - so I press the SnapVUE button and hey presto - it re-appears instantly - i.e. it's still sitting there draining my battery as far as I can gather...
Any ideas ?

Don't know why in my case the power options got screwy. From memory I had just liberated it (again, from a restored ROM) and installed some GPS software.
When it did disappear for me it was truely gone. No amount of button pushing would bring it back. So, I think that it is possible to turn the SnapVUE side off completely - just don't know how to replicate it. Sorry.

Had another thought - change your power settings while the Vista side is powered down.
*Correction* does not matter what the Vista side is doing. You need to ensure the SnapVUE side is in flight mode. I found that the 3G polling was keeping it alive. Can turn off SnapVUE at will now. So to recap, in SnapVUE 1. set the power options to turn of after 2 minutes. 2. Use connection manager to put the phone into flight mode. 3.Wait. SnapVUE will turn off and render the SnapVUE button useless. To switch to Vista use the on button.

if you don't want to have the snap viw, so why did you buy it from the begining????
The idea of Shift is to have two operating systems
Windows mobile + using it as 3G modem in Vista vies
and the Vista operating system (touch screen goodies)
My advice to you is to sell it and don't complaint

MortenFT said:
I have searched and searched, but can't seem to find out if anyone has figured out a way to remove or disable SnapVUE completely.
I never use it, and I don't use the 3G modem so I don't need it at all.
It drains the battery and is annoying the hell out of me.
Is there any way to remove it, prevent it from starting or anything ?
-mortenft
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it does not drain the battery... I have about 3 hours of use in Windows 7. I'm using snapvue only for call and gps... and I'm not sure that you will find any netbook being more interesting than the shift.
if you think that your snapvue drains the battery then try to make it the lightest as possible.. you can stop the display using pBar or psShutXP .. and sincerely, I don't see anything better than that.
the best in that, is that you can just switch to snapvue, without display and guess what... you can get about 4 hours of battery life for Win7 because snapvue save battery life...
I really don't understand comments like in this post !

Hello,
I have the same problem snapVue kill battery when is in suspended mode windows ! there are a way to exlude eprmanently ?
Thanks A lot

If you really want to get rid of SnapVue/WM side of your shift you may try to just disconnect it physically.
Take a look at Mike Channons Shift dismantling guide:
"10 Remove the 2 screws located
in the areas shown. They are
under the ribbon cable connecting
the hard drive to the motherboard.
Care is needed in this area. The
motherboard is in two sections,
one for the x86 side (intel
processor, GMA950 video, card
reader etc) and another for the
WM side.
The 2 parts are linked via a
connector that is secured by
those 2 screws. WHEN REASSEMBLING
CONNECTOR
MUST BE RE-ATTACHED
PROPERLY."
Take a look at this pic-
the connector is underneath your ssd.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/HTC-Shift-X9...Card-Reader-/331454463495?hash=item4d2c39be07
I never tried it, but maybe...
But to be honest- i don't think it is necessary.
The IOO ROM i actually use has some "turn off device after not in use for x minutes" functionality.

One enticement to keep snapvue is to install a legally-purchased TextMaker to an old Windows Mobile phone, then copy that softmaker directory over to snapvue.
The IOO ROM will provide just enough memory to run TextMaker, which essentially gives you a full-fledged word processor that will run for 17+ hours. Not bad if you're stuck in an airport, etc.
A direct .cab install is not possible (that I've found) since the installation demands double the space of the .cab file.
Jake

HD2 frozen on boot

I have just got the HD2 and been using it for a few weeks. Downloaded a few apps (eg HTC rom, BSB tweeks) and all is good. Saw Max Manila and looked like a great idea - checked my manila version 2.5.19211619.0 and downloaded 2.7 SE (checked it's right for my manila) loaded onto phone and it crashed after soft reset. Took battery out and phone doesn't go past first screen (with the red writing bottom left) - Hard reset is the same and now I'm worried!
Any ideas???

sad to say yy sounds like hard reset time.
power off, hold volume up and volume down, tap power keeping volume up and down pressed til the screen comes on and follow the prompts.
it will reset your phone to factory defaults.
never used max manila so I cant help with what the problem might be, but if there is a developers thread for it you might be better asking there.

Thanks for replying samsamuel - I've tried the hard reset and it doesn't work!
Even when I do as you say, I get the white start screen with htc written on it and then several red lines at the bottom right starting R G and D and that's it! It just stay's like that - At this moment I'd pray for a hard reset!!
I'm going to try booting from the sd card but I'm not sure I can get the phone to go into the bootable mode. I've downloaded the HTC rom and extracted the nmh so we'll see.

if your phone is provider locked then that will not work.you need the rom that came on your phone. so if was from uk o2 then you need the o2 uk rom, otherwise it wont work.

No luck! Whilst I've got everything to sort the phone out it won't do anything but load the white first screen no matter which buttons I hold down.
Man this sucks!
Guess there's nothing for it except the bin unless anyone else has any other ideas??

can you get into boot loader?
press and hold vol down(not up this time, just down) tap and release power, keep vol down held. should boot to striped cultures colored screen.
if you can what does it say next to SPL?

Hi Samsamual
Thanks for helping but no, won't go into bootloader either - doesn't respond to any input (even when I conect the usb the charge led doesn't come on!) and just starts with the white screen with the HTC logo and then the red writting appears and it just hangs - left it for 5 mins just to be sure and no change
Looks like I've really messed it up although I have no idea what I did wrong - instal went just like the other things I installed.

Ahh shame. All i can suggest is the original rom sd card method. But it MUST be the propper rom that came on your phone, so if you got it from vodaphone, , , even if it is unlocked, you must use the voda rom.
Also, have a really good read through the pages in teh rom development section. If you can find someone with the exact same issue, you could be one step closer to fixing it.

Brotherskid said:
Thanks for replying samsamuel - I've tried the hard reset and it doesn't work!
Even when I do as you say, I get the white start screen with htc written on it and then several red lines at the bottom right starting R G and D and that's it! It just stay's like that - At this moment I'd pray for a hard reset!!
I'm going to try booting from the sd card but I'm not sure I can get the phone to go into the bootable mode. I've downloaded the HTC rom and extracted the nmh so we'll see.
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you must tab the power botton for a short time just tab it and leave it with keeping pressing on the volume up and down buttons don't leave them i think it must work with you tell me if it works

Brotherskid said:
...I'm going to try booting from the sd card b
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When you tried the SD card method did you use a 2GB SD card and was it formatted to FAT32?
WB

Have you tried a boot (all combinations!) without the sd card installed?

Hoss and WB - thanks for the comments
Hoss, I've held the volume buttons for over a minute after powering on - no change
WB, I can't get the phone to go into boot loader screen but thanks for the info for the future. Next time I'll see if I can copy the original rom just in case.
Resigned myself to having a new paper weight on my desk and looking for a new phone - Guess I won't be putting so many programs on my new one....

PA - Thanks for the advice - Yes tried with sd card in/out sim in/out bootloader, hard reset, soft reset and always the same.

In your posts you do not mention where you bought your HD2, and I do not know what country you are in.
From what I have read, it seems that you did not flash any ROMs, nor change your SPL, so if I were you, at this point, rather than accepting a bricked paperweight, why not explore your warranty possibilities?
Contact the place you bought the HD2 (the dealer) and explore your options. Since I do not know which country you are in I will not suggest an HTC service center, but if your country has such a center, at last resort, you might check out that possibility.
Since you apparently had no hardware problems before the manila incident, it would seem that it is a software glitch somehwere.
Good luck with all of this. It must be almost heartbreaking to have this happen with such beautiful hardware.

rlydiard said:
In your posts you do not mention where you bought your HD2, and I do not know what country you are in.
From what I have read, it seems that you did not flash any ROMs, nor change your SPL, so if I were you, at this point, rather than accepting a bricked paperweight, why not explore your warranty possibilities?
Contact the place you bought the HD2 (the dealer) and explore your options. Since I do not know which country you are in I will not suggest an HTC service center, but if your country has such a center, at last resort, you might check out that possibility.
Since you apparently had no hardware problems before the manila incident, it would seem that it is a software glitch somehwere.
Good luck with all of this. It must be almost heartbreaking to have this happen with such beautiful hardware.
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What's most annoying is it wasn't as if I was doing anything crazy! Max manila is used by many people (from what I've seen in the threads) and I guess I downloaded the wrong one (although naturally I checked and it's the right one). Certainly will curb my using of 3rd party software! As for the warranty, you're right, I can try and see if it can be fixed (bizarrely, that hadn't occured to me - I thought that with no resets working HTC couldn't do anything). Thanks for the tip and I'll let you know how I get on.

Surely your warranty will cover this. Yes, let me (and us) know how all of this goes. You will get your phone back to what you deserve, for sure!

I had the same issue.
Sent mine to HTC and got it back with the comment "Cannot reproduce"
Probably it solved itself when the battery was removed for a couple of days in the mail.
It has now been working for two weeks again.
Fingers crossed.

watnuweer said:
I had the same issue.
Sent mine to HTC and got it back with the comment "Cannot reproduce"
Probably it solved itself when the battery was removed for a couple of days in the mail.
It has now been working for two weeks again.
Fingers crossed.
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Experential nut I may be, but just wondering if you had the problem after you installed the MAx manila? I wonder now what versions of OS may be causing this problem.

i had something like this with my HTC Diamond... It stopped responding completely when turned on, didn't respond to the usb cable being plugged in (the round ring used to illuminate when charging)
I took the battery out, for about 30 minutes... then left it charging for another 30 minutes - booted up straight away and never did anything like that again
Worth a shot just leaving it without power for awhile, and then just recharging it
Like watnuweer mentioned, "cannot reproduce" probably fixed itself by not having the battery left in for awhile

fakker said:
i had something like this with my HTC Diamond... It stopped responding completely when turned on, didn't respond to the usb cable being plugged in (the round ring used to illuminate when charging)
I took the battery out, for about 30 minutes... then left it charging for another 30 minutes - booted up straight away and never did anything like that again
Worth a shot just leaving it without power for awhile, and then just recharging it
Like watnuweer mentioned, "cannot reproduce" probably fixed itself by not having the battery left in for awhile
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This is getting more interesting, what do you suppose is the cure of taking out the battery, and then charging? I do not doubt your experience, I am just extremely curious if anyone can explain this phenomena.

[Help] Phone won't boot

Hello,
I still got Windows Mobile on my HD2, so I wanted to start putting MAGLDR on it...
...so I started following these steps:
1. Power off your phone.
2. Press volume down button (don’t let go) and power on your phone.
3. It will load into bootloader.
4. You should get ‘Red, Green, Blue and White’ screen with SPL-2.08.HSPL.
5. Take off the battery.
6. Power on your phone.
= etc
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But my phone doesn't boot up at all anymore now after step 5.. what's wrong?
Is my phone dead already? I didn't do anything...

Unscrewed said:
Hello,
I still got Windows Mobile on my HD2, so I wanted to start putting MAGLDR on it...
...so I started following these steps:
But my phone doesn't boot up at all anymore now after step 5.. what's wrong?
Is my phone dead already? I didn't do anything...
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Please don't post the same thread in multiple places.

Nigeldg said:
Please don't post the same thread in multiple places.
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Sorry I didn't know where I should post it.
But at least you could have given an answer...

Unscrewed said:
Sorry I didn't know where I should post it.
But at least you could have given an answer...
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Not too sure of the answer, never heard of this happening. Is the battery charged? Are the battery pins making proper connection with the battery?

Yea, battery pins, gotta be.
(Although the "doesn't boot up at all anymore" is in chocolate teapot territory as far as usefulness goes,,,, does it bootloop? Not come on at all? Vibrate but stay blank? Please elaborate, @op. )

samsamuel said:
Yea, battery pins, gotta be.
(Although the "doesn't boot up at all anymore" is in chocolate teapot territory as far as usefulness goes,,,, does it bootloop? Not come on at all? Vibrate but stay blank? Please elaborate, @op. )
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EDIT: OMG! I bent the pins back down (they were all pointing up so I thought they were supposed to), and the phone boots again.. thanks so much please have sexual intercourse with me...
...can the pins break if this happens too much and how do I prevent this from happening?
EDIT 2: I have one more question: Why doesn't the status change from: "Serial" to "USB" in the boot menu when I connect the USB? I installed the drivers.

Yeah the pins can break,, its not the best designed battery compartment, the pins catch on the edge of the plastic around the connector plates on the battery. Only sure fire way to avoid it is be real careful,,, I hold the phone face down left hand, then right thumb against the lower middle of battery(by sim card) to prevent the bottom lifting whilst index finger lifts the top left, then when battery is at 45 degrees push upwards with thumb to slide battery away from contact pins before lifting out.
Tomorrow's lesson, sucking eggs.
Next week, distinguishIng between arse and elbow.

Unscrewed said:
EDIT 2: I have one more question: Why doesn't the status change from: "Serial" to "USB" in the boot menu when I connect the USB? I installed the drivers.
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Does the phone charge while the usb is connected?? Check the usb connection is clean and clear from any dirt or dust that could cause a short. Also make sure the battery pins are not touching each other.
Would also double check the drivers installed are working correctly as they can be a real issue in the beginning.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app

It's a dead battery. I had the same problem before; all you have to do is shell out $2 for a cheap generic battery off eBay.