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[REQ] Classic WM texting patch for Sense 2.5 (19222911.0)

hey there,
since using sense as Homescreen i was alway mad about these "modern" messaging clients (the odd manila texting that doesnt even count charakters & the slow HTC messaging client as u have on the LEO)
for now ma rom (valkyrie 5.4) has the ability to use the classic texting (via start -> text) and the "modern" manila texting via sense-> textTab -> click on message)
Even by tabbing "all messages" i end up in the classic wm-message listing.. (and thats nearly what i want)...
Is there kinda fix, that tabbing on a message would bring me to the classic WM -view (the coloured one)? I remember there was a manila file in sense 2.1 you just could replace and it worked..
but for now i need it for sense 2.5 (landscape ability).
Hope you can get my point.
Thanks in advance

Yes there is one. Search for Message fix, or here is the link.
Try my ROM out, it doesnt have messaging client in it...

thanks so far.
this patch only discribes how to enabel WM classic messaging.
By point is that i want to change the behaviour when tabbing on a message in the messaging tab of sense 2.5.
even with this patch above i end up in the htc contacts menu/sms tab.
and THATS what i want to be the classic WM interface.
as i mentioned, it worked somehow with a fixed manila file in 2.1 ....

Take a look at this thread
Look for the cab that includes Zenyee's tweak
It is a mod that install the messaging client from sense 2.1 to sense 2.5
This sense 2.1 sms client loads MUCH faster than the one in 2.5, looks way better than the WM sms client, and shows character counts
When you tab on All message it brings you to the classic wm sms interface
Granted it is still not perfect...but it works very well imo

hmm, thats really nice one; not the classic screen, but it works as well...
someone here who has already made a cab of it?

Speadge said:
hmm, thats really nice one; not the classic screen, but it works as well...
someone here who has already made a cab of it?
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The cab is already in the thread

ctbear said:
The cab is already in the thread
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sorry, cant find it
just some guys saying they donno how to make a cab.. same as me
EDIT: found it
for the rest of you guys:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=262164&d=1262201225

Speadge said:
sorry, cant find it
just some guys saying they donno how to make a cab.. same as me
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5252166&postcount=34

Weather clock for Touchflo3d/Sense 2.1

Guys, I have searched with no prevail, and please forgive me if this has been asked before. I would like the weather clock like that present in sense 2.5, for touchflo3d/sense 2.1. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks a lot.

dressanderc said:
Guys, I have searched with no prevail, and please forgive me if this has been asked before. I would like the weather clock like that present in sense 2.5, for touchflo3d/sense 2.1. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks a lot.
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If you go with default background on Sense 2.1 you should get animated weather. This cab gives you animated weather for any background.
All credits to the original programmer.

Ok, excuse me if i'm wrong, but I was under the impression that TouchFLO3D and Sense 2.1 were the same thing. I do not have any weather on my home tab. I am running the stock WM6.5 ROM on an AT&T Branded Tilt 2.

dressanderc said:
Ok, excuse me if i'm wrong, but I was under the impression that TouchFLO3D and Sense 2.1 were the same thing. I do not have any weather on my home tab. I am running the stock WM6.5 ROM on an AT&T Branded Tilt 2.
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I'm no expert, but I'm almost sure Sense 2.1 and TouchFLO3D are different, since icon packs are specified either for TouchFLO or for Sense.

josemald said:
I'm no expert, but I'm almost sure Sense 2.1 and TouchFLO3D are different, since icon packs are specified either for TouchFLO or for Sense.
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I believe the last "TF3D" was in winmo 6.1, and starting with 6.5 it became the sense interface...and to further confuse things, the last version of TF3D and the first version of sense (on winmo anyway) are both referred to as "2.1" So, in other words, there exists both a TF3D 2.1 and a Sense 2.1, but they're not exactly the same thing.

Ahh, well then, I have TouchFLO3D v2.1. It actually says "TouchFLO3D" when the plugin is loading. I didn't think there was a difference. My mistake. So I guess my question should be, "Is there a weather clock, like that in Sense 2.5, that will run on TouchFLO3D v2.1?"

dressanderc said:
Ahh, well then, I have TouchFLO3D v2.1. It actually says "TouchFLO3D" when the plugin is loading. I didn't think there was a difference. My mistake. So I guess my question should be, "Is there a weather clock, like that in Sense 2.5, that will run on TouchFLO3D v2.1?"
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I hate to be the one to say this but no. you will need to flash an updated rom that has Sense in it. The stock att rom doesnt have the needed files for it to work

sirphunkee said:
I believe the last "TF3D" was in winmo 6.1, and starting with 6.5 it became the sense interface...and to further confuse things, the last version of TF3D and the first version of sense (on winmo anyway) are both referred to as "2.1" So, in other words, there exists both a TF3D 2.1 and a Sense 2.1, but they're not exactly the same thing.
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Nope, my new Tilt 2 had TF3D and Winmo 6.5. To my knowledge sense is an adaptation from other devices that the sense interface has been skimmed from and cooked into a custom rom. I don't believe there is any way to get the Home screen weather on a stock Tilt 2 rom with TF3D. Upgrade to a custom rom, it is worth it, even though you will find yourself forever tinkering with your phone from the day you flash your first one.

15 Tabs and Manila 2.1 Sliders

Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.

You made me laugh Manilla 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE does NOT excist. Manilla = Sense...
Manilla 2.1 is called sense.
Manilla 2.5 is called sense.

Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...

Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)

Talon Pro said:
Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...
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dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5

Hold ur fire!! This make me a little confused too. So what's real difference between Manila & Sense??

Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D

radon222 said:
Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)
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Using any numbers in the search (simple or advanced) gains only an error, which is why i posted. Try searching for '15 tabs' and itll go to the advanced search page with 'No results'...
kitchencop said:
dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5
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Well, you remain wrong on that
Mektah said:
Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D
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I disagree a little, there IS a difference between Manila 2.1 and 2.1 w/Sense. Try putting a Sense item on regular 2.1 and watch it break. I tried PPCgeeks.com to sort out the TP2 stuff, got much support, but they didnt do anything about it. When you ask for customized stuff, everyone assumes youre using a cooked version of 6.5 (which has Sense 2.1 or 2.5 depending the ROM/Chef), not 6.1, and then the Manila version gets even more in the way of stuff.
I mean i like my TP2, it works like the TP1 should have, but the TP1 had so much more support for the stock ROM's and 6.1.

Talon Pro said:
Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.
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For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE

sirphunkee said:
For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE
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Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help

Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.

kimtyson said:
Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.
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No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Talon Pro said:
Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help
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Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.

sirphunkee said:
No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.
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Yes it was the one i wanted. Now im looking for a taskbar of the same lol. I didnt know that HDWalls was a program, thought it was just a 'image on all tabs' thing.
Thanks.

How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far

Talon Pro said:
How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far
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Navigation Icon? I don't have a 'navigation' tab on my 6.1, so I'm guessing that it's not part of the regular set of tabs and therefore there's not a provision for it in the usual list of manila files for the icons.
If you (or somebody) can just pin down the exact name of the manila file for that specfic tab's icons, you can use HDWalls to create one (for a different tab), and then just rename it to match the odd manila file related to the nav. tab. Let me know if that makes sense...I can do it better than I can describe it lol

I have the Touch Pro2 which still has TF3D 2.1 (non-sense lol).
How do i go about locating it? I know the files are in the Windows folder, but how to view them? Guess ill do some google searching too.

I also want the comm manager tab and the programs tab back, that was on the TP1...

Try CFC GUI and make your icons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798
Have never heard of a navigation tab though, but if exists, you'll be able to find it with CFC GUI

[REQ] Auto SMS Archiver.

As has been noted around the forums, the Manila messaging client (although handy and nice looking) is a laggy piece of software when it starts to have more than around 20 SMS's.
What we need is a program that would scan the SMS', and if there is more than 20, the 21st onwards get moved to an archive folder. Similar to what the iPhone does. Trying to handle 200+ messages is a real headache. (I used to dabble in 500+ plus delete down to 20-30 now)
On the most powerful phone, the HD2, a simple messaging app lags to hell so I have to disable the Manila messaging client and use the standard WinMo one, although practical, isn't very intuitive.

not any interest in anything like this?

I used to have issues with the SMS lag on the HD2 and was manually archiving using MyPhone, which is great for that.
However, that was when I was using stock ROMs (or <= 1.66 ROMs at least).
I flashed one of Dutty's ROMs (HG v0.8) because I wanted all the Sense upgrades, and all my SMS problems have now gone. I've got over 500 SMS on my phone at the minute, and it exhibits no lag whatsoever.
Maybe look at a new ROM. I would strongly recommend a 2.0+ ROM as they seem a lot more stable than the earlier ones.
Hope this helps

johncmolyneux said:
I used to have issues with the SMS lag on the HD2 and was manually archiving using MyPhone, which is great for that.
However, that was when I was using stock ROMs (or <= 1.66 ROMs at least).
I flashed one of Dutty's ROMs (HG v0.8) because I wanted all the Sense upgrades, and all my SMS problems have now gone. I've got over 500 SMS on my phone at the minute, and it exhibits no lag whatsoever.
Maybe look at a new ROM. I would strongly recommend a 2.0+ ROM as they seem a lot more stable than the earlier ones.
Hope this helps
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Using OzROM 3.02 atm and yeah, it's cleared it up somewhat, but still noticeable

Santaria said:
Using OzROM 3.02 atm and yeah, it's cleared it up somewhat, but still noticeable
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It's a start at least. Maybe Dutty did some "special magic" with his Holy Grail ROM. Ah well, keep going mate - you'll sort it.

johncmolyneux said:
I used to have issues with the SMS lag on the HD2 and was manually archiving using MyPhone, which is great for that.
However, that was when I was using stock ROMs (or <= 1.66 ROMs at least).
I flashed one of Dutty's ROMs (HG v0.8) because I wanted all the Sense upgrades, and all my SMS problems have now gone. I've got over 500 SMS on my phone at the minute, and it exhibits no lag whatsoever.
Maybe look at a new ROM. I would strongly recommend a 2.0+ ROM as they seem a lot more stable than the earlier ones.
Hope this helps
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Can you show us how is the messaging client on Dutty's Rom ?

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Can you show us how is the messaging client on Dutty's Rom ?
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It's the HTC messaging client - it's not a different one. It's just a newer build.

The HTC Messaging Client 2014 ?
This is the last one, and my 40 SMS are enough to slow down the phone when opening the messaging client.
My Build is 2014.2230.
I see on another topic that is e 2014.2622, you have this one ?
I saw on another WinMo 6.5's ROM that the messaging client was the same one on WinMo 6.1. The messages are sort 10 per page, so the loading time is merely inexistant.
Can someone confirm that ?

new HTC messenger for Tilt 2 / TP2??

So, is this available for tilt 2?? Will it run without breaking it?
showthread.php?t=700495
on xda-developers forum because i'm a new member and I can't post links!
Thanks

Eh not sure but I say if the current native WM SMS client works, then why fix what's not broken?
I love the speed and simplicity of it ;p.

Well, my primary problem with the primary messenging software is that it is sooooo slow! It takes forever to open a conversation, and then the softkeyboard opens, closes, then opens again. so annoying.
ideas?

what are the specifications of the rom you are using?
is it using manila 2.5?

just tried it, hard resetting, I would say stay away from it

Thanks supernova, I think you saved a lot of us a lot of trouble lol!!!
Thanks a lot!
Smith

smithisize said:
Thanks supernova, I think you saved a lot of us a lot of trouble lol!!!
Thanks a lot!
Smith
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:-D no problem I was hopping it would work too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617142 that rom has virsion 1.5 built into it, it works grate.

What is the difference between HTC messenger and default WinMo messenger? Because my Tilt 2 has the HTC keyboard and stuff, idk if it has messenger though.
In your opinion, is it worth the ROM flash?? I've never done it before, and there's plenty of info to do it so that's nto a problem, but just wondering!
Regards
Smith

In my opinion it is well worth it, this is actually the 1st rom I have flashed that used this messenger and I like it a lot, my fav part is it actually closes and opens when you want it to insted of clicking it and waiting plus for some reason I perfer Windows 6.5.5 to the 6.5.3.

Your sig says you're using Cell Pro 8.1, but I only see up to version 1.3 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617142&highlight=cell+pro
Where did you get your ROM from?
Thanks
Smith

I am using fring...

Difference between hTC messenger and Windows
Windows Messenger uses iFrames (slow)
htc messenger looks like it uses program windows instead, but it does have problems reading from the Messaging database last time i checked(send a message and wont see it on screen for a little) but the Windows mobile messenger does sometimes freeze when its loading from the messaging database, and the program becomes unstable and wont open again without a softreset.
htc messenger looks like it belongs with sense, and Windows messaging looks like Windows messaging (outlook) blech..
htc messenger consumes a little more RAM and is believed to cause some lag problems, but Windows messenger isnt believed to exhibit either.
Im gonna install the new Htc messenger now and give it a go and ill repost here. Im using energyrom GTX

smithisize said:
Your sig says you're using Cell Pro 8.1, but I only see up to version 1.3 here: [url .bnnvhguty
Smith
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im am using 1.2, i dont update my sig a lot sorry for the mix up

Awesome
I'm pretty excited to flash to a different ROM, because I just had to do a hard reset today lol so maybe a custom ROM will be more stable

yea they usualy are more stable, 3 thinks you should test as soon as you flash lol 1: make sure you can send MMS. 2: Make sure you can recive MMS 3: make sure the data connection works.
nothing quite like getting everything set up and loaded only to figure out the MMS dosent work and you cant figure out why lol

Just updated to Cell Pro 1.2 ... INCREDIBLE!!!
SO much faster than stock, way more features, easier to use, and a lot less crap!
You guys rule haha thanks!
Regards
Smith

I have to say the htc messaging 1.8 (build 2015 and 2016 depending on what your rom needs) runs way way better then the old version. No more lag, pictures actually have a thumbnail preview in the messaging window, secure box... just awesome

Well I'm running Cell Pro 1.2 so idk if it'll take the new one??

smithisize said:
Well I'm running Cell Pro 1.2 so idk if it'll take the new one??
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Find out if the rom is using a 2015 or 1016 manila build. If so then yes you can use the new one.

Ok, my ROM is using manila v 2.5.20122227, so I cannot use the new messenger?
From the sounds of it, it would be a great thing to have, so if I cannot use the new messenger, how could I change my version of manila to be compatible?
Thanks
Smith