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I was about to send my HD2 back to O2

iPhone 3g contract was up and started looking for a new handset, 3Gs? meh.
perhaps if apple had some sexy stuff to say at their conference about a fw update, but no
just some waffle about an iPad or something? lol
so 3 days into my 14 day return time with the HD2 it was locking up, freezing and genraly sluggish.
i guess i was just used to the iphone 'just working' alough saying that, it was jailbroken and 'trying' to act like a normal phone.
yer yer i had all the apps i wanted (via appsync) and boy was the iphone 3g struggleing.
anyways here i am with the hd2, locking up. so i found my way back to an old friend THIS FORUM.
amazed to find that my hd2 had a rom number way below what was out there.
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
tried to flash a htc stock updated rom and it failed
then discovered the HSPL crack, and tried the flash again, YES! it worked this time.
now, humm i dunno. the phone looks the same but feels different, sure all the O2 branding is gone and some features are unlocked but it now feels much better to use.
faster, smoother and more slick.
got tomtom on there and MYplayer watching bbciplayer OVER 3G not locked to wifi use like the iphone.
this things got me interested now i think ill keep it
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?

Arthur said:
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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No-one can answer that question yet. All we can do is summise, and most would say yes.
There hasn't been an official release of the WM7 requirements yet, so we can't be 100% sure. There's been a pinksheet, which is a rumoured requirements list, and the HD2 is fine for that (albeit the minimum ROM, not the recommended).
We'll really have to wait and see. The official specs for WM7 can't be that far away.

Arthur said:
iPhone 3g contract was up and started looking for a new handset, 3Gs? meh.
perhaps if apple had some sexy stuff to say at their conference about a fw update, but no
just some waffle about an iPad or something? lol
so 3 days into my 14 day return time with the HD2 it was locking up, freezing and genraly sluggish.
i guess i was just used to the iphone 'just working' alough saying that, it was jailbroken and 'trying' to act like a normal phone.
yer yer i had all the apps i wanted (via appsync) and boy was the iphone 3g struggleing.
anyways here i am with the hd2, locking up. so i found my way back to an old friend THIS FORUM.
amazed to find that my hd2 had a rom number way below what was out there.
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
tried to flash a htc stock updated rom and it failed
then discovered the HSPL crack, and tried the flash again, YES! it worked this time.
now, humm i dunno. the phone looks the same but feels different, sure all the O2 branding is gone and some features are unlocked but it now feels much better to use.
faster, smoother and more slick.
got tomtom on there and MYplayer watching bbciplayer OVER 3G not locked to wifi use like the iphone.
this things got me interested now i think ill keep it
qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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I'm the same as you, I had the iphone 3G, and was due an upgrade, but the 3Gs didn't really offer anything new so went fo the HD2. I've had it for a few weeks now, and had a lot of issues, or should I say glitches. Some have just been me not used to a windows phone, and some have been glitches with the phone. However, most of those have now been rectified thanks to the fantastic help on this website, and especially Wacky Banana on the PM's (Many thanks). I am now starting to enjoy the phone, and can see it's fantastic potential. Despite the lack of apps (which I do miss from time to time), I am now starting to think this phone is better than the iphone, and IF WM7 becomes available it will be a very exciting prospect.
Whilst on the topic of WM7, I emailed HTC directly and they assured me that WM7 will be available on the HD2, and will be a free 'upgrade'. They did say not to expect it until the end of the year at the earliest though. Despite this, I have still been informed my some on this forum that WM7 for the HD2 won't happen. So I guess it's a case of wait and see.

Arthur said:
aware that flashing a new rom 'could' invalidate my warranty i downloaded the stock O2 rom just in case.
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Could you let me have the link where you downloaded the stock O2 rom i cant find it.

snerkler said:
...Despite the lack of apps (which I do miss from time to time)...
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Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.

+1 You wont find emulators like Morphgear on the Marketplace but at least you can install great apps without having to jailbreak etc
Im surprised your O2 HD2 freezes? The only reason Im still on the stock O2 rom (although I might give 1.66 a go) is because I've not had any major issues with it.

Arthur said:
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qusetion: when wm7 is released, will it go on this phone?
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Yes. The same way you installed custom ROM of 6.5.5 (6.6) there will be WM7 ROM on XDA most definitely.
The same way my old Trinity P3600 runs WM 6.5.3 it will be possible to run WM7 on HD2.

I was on the stock o2 rom, and no major issues except for SMS not sending on the second day, and sometimes it would fail to update the weather. Everything is that bit slicker on the newest ROM.
I heard o2 don't bother with firmware updates, I'm not going to wait for nothing so I flashed successfully straight away.

Jim Coleman said:
Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
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Yeah I do, and have found some good ones. I just miss certain apps like ebay app, yell.com app (I know you can go onto these via the internet but the app just made it easier), but one that I miss the most is Sky+ app where I can remotely record on my sky+ box at home. I can do this via text, but is costs money, doing it from the iphone app was free.
It's no big issue, and I am starting to prefer my HD2 to my iphone, just wish you could have the best of both worlds

jimbouk said:
Could you let me have the link where you downloaded the stock O2 rom i cant find it.
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Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe

a bit weird considering that the OP (Arthur) has been a member in this forum for 7 years,

romac said:
Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
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beat me to it.
OK heres the big problem i have now....
every now n then i goto my phone and 'slide to unlock'
it asks for my pin, i input said pin but it says its wrong? i know its not.
again SLOWLY, it says 'wrong pin' or words to that effect. NOOOOO
only way out of it is to do a cold boot. (remove the batt)
granted i only tried rom Le2_UK_1.43.206.4 for about 2 days, but never had this happen
untill now im on 1.66?
REALY flustering.
on the few times its happed ive noticed theres a sms or missed call whateing.
perhaps this is triggering the pin error?
ill let you know if it happens without a missed call or sms, but the 5 times its happened
in the last 18 hours its allways been the same.

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a bit weird considering that the OP (Arthur) has been a member in this forum for 7 years,
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whats weird?
i had an xda2 ohh about 7 years back. lol

sky mobile is available for HD2 with remote record. Go to Skys site and download it. Its working fine for me.

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Try http://rapidshare.com/files/3249426...dio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship.exe
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Many Thanks
The 1.66 fixed afew things and seems a bit quicker but hasnt made the earpiece speaker any better still crackles alot, so i think i'll send it back and try another, 4th time lucky.

Jim Coleman said:
Erm, you DO realise you can download apps from the Internet, and that the Marketplace holds just a tiny subset of all the apps that are available for WM phones, right?
Most of the apps I use (Cash Organizer, Coreplayer, Pocket Informant, KeePass, Tomtom, GCzII, Skyfire) aren't available from Marketplace. You have to get out of the iPhone mindset of everything being controlled and spoonfed to you. Try handango or googling for "Windows Mobile Software", you'll be amazed at what's out there.
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I like you

snerkler said:
Yeah I do, and have found some good ones. I just miss certain apps like ebay app, yell.com app (I know you can go onto these via the internet but the app just made it easier), but one that I miss the most is Sky+ app where I can remotely record on my sky+ box at home. I can do this via text, but is costs money, doing it from the iphone app was free.
It's no big issue, and I am starting to prefer my HD2 to my iphone, just wish you could have the best of both worlds
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most of these "apps" can easily be made by you to run on your HD2
MS have even given you the facility to do it with 6.5..
widgets, often overlooked, and not perfect, you can turn some net pages in "apps" just like the iphmoan makes you get from the nappystore.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd721906.aspx
but this is more powerful as you can do them yourself..
It's something sorely lacking lately on here, the "DIY" ethics we used to have, but there's other guides..
Maybe we should have a competition for some new widgets..

scaryprowler said:
sky mobile is available for HD2 with remote record. Go to Skys site and download it. Its working fine for me.
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Really, I couldn't find it. I must be losing the plot lol
Is it free to use?

I was in the same boat as the OP. My phone had 1.43 and was 15 mins away from being returned when I decided to give 1.61 (and now 1.66) a go. The later ROMS are without a doubt the ones that the HD2s should have been launched with.
While they're still not 100% perfect, they're infinitely better, smoother and more stable than the 1.43 operator branded ROMs.

snerkler said:
Really, I couldn't find it. I must be losing the plot lol
Is it free to use?
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Yes it is. And it works perfectly.

Hi, i'm new here!

Hello all,
i've scoured this webpage for the past few days to try and make some sense of this phone!
i've just upgraded to the HD2 after nearly 2 years of iphone and finding the transition very hard!
i did read the "Questions & Answers" section but the obvious questions weren't there...probably as they're obvious and it's just me...
i know some of you will take offense from me asking questions, and if you do, please don't reply i'm after help, not a laugh
Why is the phone refered to as Leo? Is this the actual model of the phone rather than the HD2?
Why would you upgrade your ROM? What can these upgrades do?
The current ROM on my phone shows as 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE and on the HTC website it shows as there is an available upgrade but upon entering my serial number it says this isnt applicable!
A few other things the facebook app doesnt work? Just stays on "Getting User ID.." and doesnt go past that and the Messenger application doesnt allow (or doesnt seem to) none hotmail or msn addresses!? for example, my email address is from a domain i own that is already set up on .passport and works fine on msn through the PC but not on the phone?!
Any help would much be appreciated and thanks in advance

b3nje said:
Hello all,
i've scoured this webpage for the past few days to try and make some sense of this phone!
i've just upgraded to the HD2 after nearly 2 years of iphone and finding the transition very hard!
i did read the "Questions & Answers" section but the obvious questions weren't there...probably as they're obvious and it's just me...
i know some of you will take offense from me asking questions, and if you do, please don't reply i'm after help, not a laugh
Why is the phone refered to as Leo? Is this the actual model of the phone rather than the HD2?
Why would you upgrade your ROM? What can these upgrades do?
The current ROM on my phone shows as 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE and on the HTC website it shows as there is an available upgrade but upon entering my serial number it says this isnt applicable!
A few other things the facebook app doesnt work? Just stays on "Getting User ID.." and doesnt go past that and the Messenger application doesnt allow (or doesnt seem to) none hotmail or msn addresses!? for example, my email address is from a domain i own that is already set up on .passport and works fine on msn through the PC but not on the phone?!
Any help would much be appreciated and thanks in advance
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Hi mate, and welcome to the forum. I hope we can help your transition from your iPhone to a windows phone easier for you - they're very different beasts aren't they?
First off, the name Leo is the "codename" for the HD2. The original HD was called the "Blackstone" as well. We refer to it as the HD2, as that's what it's really called, but you can call it Leo if you like. I call mine Gemma, but that's a different story
The ROM is basically the core of the phone's software. Upgrading this is usually done to make a lot of small changes happen at once, rather than installing lots of niggly little hotfixes. ROMs are made available for different phone types at different times. By this, I mean that the ones currently on the HTC site are for unbranded phones. They may later include ROM upgrades from service providers. If your phone is T-Mobile, for example, then you can only use T-Mobile ROMs. (That's the official line, anyway. There is something called HSPL which allows you to put any ROM on your phone, regardless).
As far as your problems with Facebook and Windows Live go, I can't really comment as they've worked flawlessly for me. I do have a hotmail.com account though, which may well explain why Live worked so easily for me.
I'm sure others will come by to say hello and, hopefully, answer your questions some more.
If you've got any questions, do search first, and don't give up just because you haven't found results in the first 5 posts listed. This is a MASSIVE forum, and stuff does get lost easily. After that, ask away, and just ignore anyone (like me) who tells you to search first. Just tell us you already have in the original post and we won't have a leg to stand on
Good luck mate - I hope you enjoy it

I use googlemail and Live worked for me too with no problems....
Have you played with any of the settings on the phone since you got it?
Have you tried turning it off then back on? Maybe that will fix it.

spot on! cleared the majority of things up for me there!
yeah, they certainly are totally different phones! the iphone feels and looks dated after using the "leo" . The camera is the thing that stands out for me by far, i'm used to using dslr's and after getting the iphone, having to carry a normal compact due to the camera being so sh*t! hopefully i'll be able to get away with using just the phone!
my contract is with O2 and after speaking with their technical department about the little issues i have, i must say, they do not have a clue! the first person hadn't even heard of the phone!
i'll have a look into upgrading the ROM as the version i have seems to be quite out of date compared to the ones available now!
thanks again for the help, much appreciated!

hi pkchips,
i've deleted it and reinstalled it, but still not working - its been sat next to me for the past 20mins saying "Getting User ID.." but for some reason i can sync my contacts with phonebook from my address book but not log on to the application....strange!?

b3nje said:
spot on! cleared the majority of things up for me there!
yeah, they certainly are totally different phones! the iphone feels and looks dated after using the "leo" . The camera is the thing that stands out for me by far, i'm used to using dslr's and after getting the iphone, having to carry a normal compact due to the camera being so sh*t! hopefully i'll be able to get away with using just the phone!
my contract is with O2 and after speaking with their technical department about the little issues i have, i must say, they do not have a clue! the first person hadn't even heard of the phone!
i'll have a look into upgrading the ROM as the version i have seems to be quite out of date compared to the ones available now!
thanks again for the help, much appreciated!
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You're welcome mate.
I'd definitely recommend the ROM upgrade as 1.66 is really smooth and fast compared to 1.43 and 1.48, despite them being fast anyway! Just make sure to spend some time reading the stickied threads in the ROM forum. They've got all the information you need from noob to expert in there, so it's highly recommended reading before you do any flashing.
As far as the camera goes, there's a lot of differing opinions about that on here. Personally, I think it's great, but I don't expect to take shots that are as good as something like a DSLR. There's been some really good example and some really bad ones. I guess it's a taste thing, and how you take pics too, so good luck with that

Welcome,
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Hello all,
The current ROM on my phone shows as 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE and on the HTC website it shows as there is an available upgrade but upon entering my serial number it says this isnt applicable!
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Id say this means you have a provider locked phone, Eg/ O2, TMobile, whatever. These phones are expected to be updated by the provider, so the serial wont work on the HTC website.
Sadly our providers tend to blow, so don't expect any updates all that quickly, however a little trick called HSPL will get around that. (Bit like jailbreaking an iphone, only different)
EDIT - scratch teh T Mobile stuff, since yr on O2!

i think the ability to control the focus from a tap of the finger is what does it for me
i'll do some more research now i've got a weekend in my favour and see how i get on!
ta

Re: camera...cover 3 quaters of the led flash with some electrical tape and it'll be fine...well it'll be slightly less blinding lol

harrow!
i've HSPL and updated my rom, everything seems sweeter and working fine, BUT , once i've taken a picture, the thumbnail in the gallary is ridiculously distorted and appears purple/pink! when i click the picture its absolutely fine though!

i've given up gun! its going back and i'm getting a 3gs!
i didnt want to go back to the iphone after my 3g as the 3gs isnt a big enough of a step up but the HD2 is slow, the keyboard is no where near as good as the iphone, the user interface of the iphone is much neater and simpler and i dont have to mess around with this rom radio hspl flash upgrade shizzle - i just plug my phone in, press a button and its jail broken
thanks for the help guys, just not too sure what you see in the phone besides the nice camera!

sorry, that sounded a bit rude!
i appreciated the help when i asked, many thanks - just a shame it didnt live up to my expectations after the raving reviews i read!

Its official the update for Tmobile UI sense is coming

I just got contacted by HTC representative who asked me to verify my serial number and he mentioned that they finally realized that there is a problem with sms freezing and UI sense and are working hard to fix it. He doesn't know when this update will be available. I did tell him that new iphone is coming out soon they better fix it now or else
Keep calling htc and tmo to expedite this

Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.

But let some folks on here tell it there wasnt a problem.. it was just "user error."

But custom ROM doesn't fix the sms problems.
But it's more of an annoyance than a problem to begin with. I just delete my texts every 60-80 messages right after syncing with MyPhone.

Pretty Good
dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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You have a pretty good answer for that guy! All most people need to do is put a little research into their phone. Its not that hard to scope out this website and find all kinds of guidance and wisdom. Especially from the senior members.

dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Mr stock broker with no free time, we'll have to wait just a bit more, since none of the new ROM's have completely fixed this problem and from what i can tell its there.
I hope i didn't waist your time but if i did i will send you a check, what is is going rate on wall street these days?

Get roms without htc messaging

earhog said:
Get roms without htc messaging
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This is a top of a line phone and i am not turning anything off, they have to fix it, and i hate that regular sms client.

goldt said:
I just got contacted by HTC representative who asked me to verify my serial number and he mentioned that they finally realized that there is a problem with sms freezing and UI sense and are working hard to fix it. He doesn't know when this update will be available. I did tell him that new iphone is coming out soon they better fix it now or else
Keep calling htc and tmo to expedite this
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Will this update be on HTC's website or T-mobile's? I find that both websites are very difficult to find anything on.

At the same time that I wish they would rush an update out, I hope they take their time and properly fix some of the most prevalent problems with the UI. SMS in general and emails not deleting properly from the HTC UI top my list. Most everything else I have found a fix for.

goldt said:
This is a top of a line phone and i am not turning anything off, they have to fix it, and i hate that regular sms client.
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Bravo my friend. Bravo. I don't understand the ease at which people give up on their right as a customer to be at least satisfied - not even overwhelmed - with the product that they buy. I spent too much money to have to scavenger hunt a fix that is officially not even available yet. Yes, I love XDA, but I should not have to come here for THE BASICS. Sms problems and music glitches that are proprietary?!?!? C'mon. You should come here for advanced tweaks not this BS.
I just called HTC and complained. They said that they are well aware of the problems. There will be a fix, but T-mo has to approve it. It is "supposed" to address: music lag, sms lag and additional sms problems. I was told to monitor this site for the fix: http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
They do not know when it is coming, but they are getting "bombarded" I was told. As the original poster said: Keep calling.

dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".

DECIM8 said:
At the same time that I wish they would rush an update out, I hope they take their time and properly fix some of the most prevalent problems with the UI. SMS in general and emails not deleting properly from the HTC UI top my list. Most everything else I have found a fix for.
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I for one am glad to see that HTC and T-Mobile haven't abandoned their new clients. If the iPhone has taught us anything, it's that customers are much more likely to sue a company if that company admits to a few small errors. Today it's hard to find a company that will update new equipment without solid reason.
But I am very glad to be a member of these forums, where I don't have to wait for the corporate red-tape to be cut and discarded to get my phone fixed

dkb218 said:
Sure!!! We have nothing better to do than call HTC. I mean there really is no other way around this problem...
Wait, there's this site called "XDA Developers". They are kinda new so they might not be on the internet yet. They make these custom ROM thingings that fix a lot of HTC Sense problems.
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Wait, what about those people who dont want to flash or even know anything about XDA? A phone shouldnt have to be lets say hacked to work properly or have the warranty voided to work properly

Raadius said:
Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".
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And let your warranty be voided...

Raadius said:
Maybe HTC should change there catch phrase from "A Phone that gets YOU" to "Got a problem? Flash your ROM".
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As much as I laughed at this, if it was perfect to begin with then we might be pretty bored here at XDA

I just an email from HTC and they told me to watch T-mobile WMupgrade site..Lets see what will happened.

a sad pattern forming
I just read on pocketnow.com the the euro hd2 is JUST NOW getting an update to stop the music play lag time and skipping. This phone has been out since november overseas. Most of the hot fixes that I have seen on the original hd2 site are the EXACT problems we are now experiencing with the US version.
It is unacceptable to me to have this blatant negligence. We are breaking our necks trying to tweak and hone this phne to the best of its capabilities, but we are doomed to fail because it was shipped - intentionally - flawed. Not even with new flaws but KNOWN pre-existing flaws. I don't find this to be cool in the least.
You would think that given so much time in between the euro and US version introductions that there would honestly be chages made so that the next customers truly get a better experience. It appears that HTC just randomly slapped the 2.0 verion on the software and gave it their blessing. This will be my last phone by this company.

KidTech said:
I just an email from HTC and they told me to watch T-mobile WMupgrade site..Lets see what will happened.
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Overseas, they are just getting a music hot fix 5 months after the introduction of the phone. I am sure there were more than 10 people that complained about the problem. That we here in the states don't have an update up on the site already is ridiculous since htc AND t-moblie knew the sofware was going to react with glitches from the start. We are mirrioring te errors that the first HD2 had. Lets see how long they make us wait.

ya, i agree with some of the other posts on this thread. why should we pay top dollar for the "lastest and greatest" only to search other means for solutions to known problems. i've flashed my rom, but it's still not 100% there, the messaging lags and my data connection goes back and forth all day and i could be sitting in the same spot.
there is no reason i should have to do a bunch of technical crap to this phone to get it to simply function correctly when its supposed to be the best offering by tmobile to date. i mean, i didn't by a barebones computer system here.
i purchased one for my fiance, and she throws fits about it on a daily basis. "i want my iphone back." i cant say the iphone is a better phone, but at least it does what it says it does, usually without problems. i on the otherhand have tweaked mine and far more tech savy, so i understood what i'm getting myself into. but that's not the point, this phone shouldnt be the way it is, and these problems being treated the way they are.

I officially hate the vibrant!

It's official, after being on Android since its inception, I officially HATE the vibrant and I HATE Tmobile for not having phones like the EVO or Incredible and giving us that crappy HD worthless 2. I've had so many issues with this phone. And now the frustrations continue and I give up.
I flashed Eugene's Vibrant5 and the damn lag fix and rebooted my phone only to find that:
1. My entire voicemail box was erased and I had several unheard voicemails from today. I have to set my voicemail box up as if I never had one. I've never had this happen before and I don't know what on earth gives but i'm irritated
2. Now Windows 7 does not recognize my device so I can't get into ADB to flash JAC's Kernel. I went through a lot of frustration yesterday to finally get Windows 7 to recognize the device and now I'm back to square one. I refuse to go through the same crap to get Windows 7 to recognize my device, I installed the latest drivers so that's it, f*ck this phone. Who makes a phone with no L.E.Ds and a piece of sh*t battery life anyway???
I HATE THIS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!

So, you hate the phone because YOU took the risk of modifying and now you don't like the results?? Flashing your phone has nothing to do with your voicemail since your phone doesn't host voiceemail box, so not sure what you did there.
Did you research the phone before you bought it? Hope your within the 14 day window to return it.

Cya later then.
Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.
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justanothergirl said:
It's official, after being on Android since its inception, I officially HATE the vibrant and I HATE Tmobile for not having phones like the EVO or Incredible and giving us that crappy HD worthless 2. I've had so many issues with this phone. And now the frustrations continue and I give up.
I flashed Eugene's Vibrant5 and the damn lag fix and rebooted my phone only to find that:
1. My entire voicemail box was erased and I had several unheard voicemails from today. I have to set my voicemail box up as if I never had one. I've never had this happen before and I don't know what on earth gives but i'm irritated
2. Now Windows 7 does not recognize my device so I can't get into ADB to flash JAC's Kernel. I went through a lot of frustration yesterday to finally get Windows 7 to recognize the device and now I'm back to square one. I refuse to go through the same crap to get Windows 7 to recognize my device, I installed the latest drivers so that's it, f*ck this phone. Who makes a phone with no L.E.Ds and a piece of sh*t battery life anyway???
I HATE THIS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!
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The voicemail thing is a Tmobile issue, not the phone. It's how Tmobile has decided to implement VVM on android. It's lame and happens even if you had gone back to a completely stock rom. You shouldn't have lost your messages tho, just install the app and refresh your inbox, they should all be there again.
As for your other problem, are you using Windows 7 64bit? For some reason there are issues with some 64bit Windows 7 machines and the Samsug drivers.
I've got 2 computers running 64bit one works perfectly the other some things work some don't. I have several other Windows 7 32bit systems and they all work without any issue. I think this problem has been mentioned in several of the Odin threads for what it's worth.

Sounds like someone got over their head with different MODs to their phone and can't figure out a way back. Complaining about a phone because Windows won't recognize it sounds like you have a problem with Windows and not Samsung. Maybe you ought to flash the stock ROM and wait for more "user-friendly" MODs to come along. Day by day I am slowly not wanting to even look here for info on my phone due to moronic posts like this.

I'm with tweak on this one... Sounds like you're angry at the modifications you've tried to apply and failed at. The lagfix is a beta mod thats extremely risky since it uses EXT2 format and the data can be easily corrupted if the phone powers down abruptly. The stock vibrant is a very fast and stable phone (I came from a Nexus One and i love the vibrant).
Are you sure you "set up" your visual voicemail app? I find it hard to beleive the phone some how "deleted" your VM's. that just doesnt make sense, since they're not even stored on the phone. try dialing 1.
Good luck with your next phone.

No one cares. I don't get why people randomly rant.

Ill buy it for the $100 its on sale for today through tmobile. Pm me!

Bye bye, have fun with your new sheep phone ...

I bet justanothergirl is some fat dude on an iphone, look at all the thread titles HE/she has started:
I officially hate the vibrant!
Unhappy
And The Annoyance Continues!
Go to first new post Widgets?
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Go to first new post Grrrr, Why Me! Help
Help!! How To Flash A New IMEI # ??

Time of the month huh? WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Delete this **** please Moderator

LatinSilEighty said:
Time of the month huh? WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Delete this **** please Moderator
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Please delete this bull**** post please Moderator. Stock rooted Vibrant with slight mods and many apps just ROCKS.... All I get from others is WOW what a fantastic phone you got.
Hope you enjoy your Evo....

krichek said:
The voicemail thing is a Tmobile issue, not the phone. It's how Tmobile has decided to implement VVM on android. It's lame and happens even if you had gone back to a completely stock rom. You shouldn't have lost your messages tho, just install the app and refresh your inbox, they should all be there again.
As for your other problem, are you using Windows 7 64bit? For some reason there are issues with some 64bit Windows 7 machines and the Samsug drivers.
I've got 2 computers running 64bit one works perfectly the other some things work some don't. I have several other Windows 7 32bit systems and they all work without any issue. I think this problem has been mentioned in several of the Odin threads for what it's worth.
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No it's not Tmobile, I had flashed another rom and went back to stock using ODIN and my voicemail was fine, it only happened after I flashed Vibrant5 and the lagfix. I've had a lot of issues with this phone since day one so I'm obviously majorly annoyed. I know how to get back that's not the issue, I'm really annoyed with the phone in general, it's a great upgrade from the MyTouch and design wise I like it a bit better than my Nexus one but MODing this thing is irritating, I've never had issues with my Nexus, MyTouch or G1 so it's not me. The samsung drivers are just lame. I prefer using ADB and it's just really annoying. I have 3 other phones and I can easily sell this one for much more than I bought it for, I paid $109 corporate discount and I'm tempted to put this b*tch on Craigslist for $350 and I know it would sell today. But then I'd be left with my nexus one which I like but am bored with, I modded the hell out of it already, so I don't know, I think I'm just going to switch back to my Nexus one until my stress levels decrease.

justanothergirl said:
No it's not Tmobile, I had flashed another rom and went back to stock using ODIN and my voicemail was fine, it only happened after I flashed Vibrant5 and the lagfix.
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I've got 2 Vibrant's beside me as I type this. I've tried several different versions of the lag fix as well as a few of the roms (deodexed, Vibrant, etc) on both. EVERY one of them requires VVM to be re-setup as does the stock rom if/when you revert to it via Odin. In every case your messages are still there once you have reloaded/re-synced the app. Not sure why you would consider that something to blame the phone for, it's part of setting everything back up after a flash as far as I see it.
P.S. If you don't think part of the problem is Tmobile, go check out a Droid or Droid X and see how different and better integrated VVM is on those devices.
P.P.S. For clarification above I meant to say everytime a new ROM is flashed, I've never had to re-setup VVM for the lag fix etc..

justanothergirl said:
No it's not Tmobile, I had flashed another rom and went back to stock using ODIN and my voicemail was fine,
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So you think krichek is lying?
justanothergirl said:
it only happened after I flashed Vibrant5 and the lagfix.
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Ok, so this is the actual problem, do not use Vibrant5 and the lagfix together? Thanks for the advice.
justanothergirl said:
I've had a lot of issues with this phone since day one so I'm obviously majorly annoyed. I know how to get back that's not the issue, I'm really annoyed with the phone in general, it's a great upgrade from the MyTouch and design wise I like it a bit better than my Nexus one but MODing this thing is irritating, I've never had issues with my Nexus, MyTouch or G1 so it's not me. The samsung drivers are just lame. I prefer using ADB and it's just really annoying.
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The only issue I have had so far is that my time zone tick does not stick when I reboot the phone so everyday I have to re-untick it so that the time dont change on me when I drive into Texas, which I have to do 5 days a week for my employer. Other than that it works perfectly on Windows 7 64bit here. Still wish we had linux support though. lol
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I have 3 other phones and I can easily sell this one for much more than I bought it for, I paid $109 corporate discount and I'm tempted to put this b*tch on Craigslist for $350 and I know it would sell today. But then I'd be left with my nexus one which I like but am bored with, I modded the hell out of it already, so I don't know, I think I'm just going to switch back to my Nexus one until my stress levels decrease.
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Yeah, for that price I would also sell it, but I would turn around and buy a new one. I LOVE my Vibrant. All it really lacks is Dev support and it sounds to me that is your only real issue also, crappy drivers and lack of dev support. My GF loves her Evo, so you should probably change carriers and get one of them instead. Oh and my brother loves his Incredible to, both are very nice phones.
good luck

I think user is suffering from the ID10T error.
Has anyone found a fix?

s15274n said:
I bet justanothergirl is some fat dude on an iphone, look at all the thread titles HE/she has started:
I officially hate the vibrant!
Unhappy
And The Annoyance Continues!
Go to first new post Widgets?
Thumbs down
Go to first new post Grrrr, Why Me! Help
Help!! How To Flash A New IMEI # ??
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Sounds like a chick to me.
Not sent from my Vibrant using XDA App 'cause I returned it.

vibrant is not a bad phone...its a REALLY good phone, does everyhting i need it to...

So basically what I get out of this is your upset because you don't know how to install drivers on Windows 7 and that the device is not fully mod ready from day one? HTC Android devices have been here since the start (G1), that is why there is such high support and why the turn around is so quick for them to be modded. The Galaxy S series is Samsungs first "real" attempt at a powerful Android device. ADB works fine, learn to install the drivers. The only real issue with the device is the GPS which is already been acknowledged. Also voicemail is hosted not stored. Installing roms and modding your phone does not affect your voicemail. God I hate stupid people, mods please delete this thread.
OP your best bet is to get an iPhone and leave us alone - thanks.

Its been what a month or so since the phone has been out?
If you where truly here when the G1 first hit then you seriously can not talk about frustration.

Calling it a Day!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to air my frustrations about the I9000. I have had this handset since it was released and its time to get rid.
I have been very patient with firmware updates and such....and it packs some brilliant hardware in theory but it just does not cut the mustard. I had the I8000 (Omnia 2) prior to this phone and it was exactly the same (except windows OS) because every time samsung brought out a new firmware it was still littered with bugs.
I know people Root their Handsets (I have done all the hacks and speedmods,etc) and rave about the speeds customisation,etc but i still get FCs and apps resetting themselves to default every so often with or without modding.
For example today i had no music showing in my music player but thought oh well....wait......wait. It appeared 10 minutes later. Recorded a video...or so i thought but nothing was saved. The Ringtones i have set are gone and i have to go through everything from scratch. This happens randomly maybe a few times a month. There is always something wrong somewhere and then i have to boot the I9000 down.....Everything is then fine for a while but always raises its ugly head at some point........WTF.
Now i hate to say it but i find myself drawn more and more to the iphone but feel like cutting my hands off or committing suicide for thinking these thoughts...they are blasphemous. I cannot help it though because i have grown to dislike the galaxy s and do not know any other handset that reviews say are better. Maybe its just the Android OS being generic and having to cater for a million different models of handset but surely then this is samsungs fault for not incorporating universal fixes.
If you read this and are deciding to get the galaxy s i would advise not to..... wait for something better now.

Well I have to say that JPY is a very decent firmware. I didn't have any major issue with it, it's fast (without any kind of lag fix) and it's stable . I rooted my SGS and got rid off Samsung's bloatware and I really like the phone now.
There's only two things that bother me, but it has nothing to do with software: I hate speaker position (international version) and also lack of flash/light.
So maybe you should buy a W7 or Symbian phone.
I don't know what to say to you, except you're doing something wrong if you're getting so many FC.
About the ringtones: I've experienced this problem when I deleted thumbnails from gallery (DCIM/thumbnails), at least I think it was because of that. Rebooted the phone and didn't delete the folder since then and never got the issue again.
So I would still recommend this phone, but it still depends on the person who gets it and for how much money.
Peace out.

dude ur phone has a virus. mine had one too exactly the same symptoms as your phone. did a reflash of 2.2 + factory reset phone is working like a charm now.

Im with the original OP. Way too many issues to deal with - I love what the device has to offer - but if I have to worry everytime go I to turn it on if it will work - its not worth it.
If I could have my SGS with the dependability and build quality of an HTC - that would be perfect (I use HTC as an example because all of the ones I have owned have been solid devices).

Yeah thanks opica.....should mention that only really get FCs with some apps that are obviously on the market but not meant for or tested properly on this handset...... overall i should clarify i dont get that many at all. Its mostly just the other things i have experienced such as recording a video and then the handset telling me that the MP4 file is unsupported, i reboot it still does not work so i record another video...this is also an mp4 file and plays. Its just **** like that constantly. I am on JPY but even that firmware gets confused every so often. Like i said i have had 2 samsung phones now both were flagship models at the time but both have fallen short because something this hyped should be the dogs bollocks. But they are not. Whoever says otherwise is kidding themselves IMO.

guys I totally sympathise because I have the voda 16GB SGS and it is fu**ing awful SW im not kidding Eg bbc news app takes about 3 mins to load plus it feezes up all the time to the point where it is unusable. I am unable to answer calls as it just shows the answer call screen but the screen is frozen and this is on the official 2.2 updated from sammy after a reset AHHHHH
However after speaking to and getting no where with samsung i decided i had a phone thats unusable and samsung are not doing a thing so my options were sell it and get an IP4 followed by shotgun insertion to mouth or just bite the bullet and flash a custom rom
WOW I installed darkys v8.0 and its is like a whole new phone that bbc news app now loads instantly no freezing no lagging no issues at all so far. Well besides battery life since I cant put the thing down now. Even WiFi connects in a second now. So amazing work by Darky and team.
Im not promoting this rom go choose our own but im just telling you guys i was in the same boat and now i love the SGS if your out of options and you love the hardware get a new rom.
Someone once said "buy a phone for its hardware capabilities then customize the SW to your specifications, then you will have your perfect phone"

Flash a custom FW? As someone else said, Darky's is a fine one to try.

Kenneth131 said:
Someone once said "buy a phone for its hardware capabilities then customize the SW to your specifications, then you will have your perfect phone"
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Exactly... There is loads of custom ROMs posted here on xda.
I had a feeling that the software will be pretty ****ty at the beginning, but I kinda hoped that some decent custom rom will come out, if samsung wasn't able to build one.
My first choice would be nitr0's Insanity, but when JPY came out, it was good enough for me.
Again, I have NO problems now when I sorted everything out, it's merely playing with the looks of the desktop

Give Darky's V8.0 a try
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

another galaxy s user who has had problems and think the iphone is the answer, i however sympathise with you if its not working properly
if its that bad i will take it of your hands for £50
regards

No.
Previously had an iphone 4/3gs, HTC desire - And i have to say, a Galaxy S + xda (speedmod, darkys 2.2.1 rom etc) is currently, hands down, the best mobile phone on the planet.

£51
jje

thebazman said:
another galaxy s user who has had problems and think the iphone is the answer, i however sympathise with you if its not working properly
if its that bad i will take it of your hands for £50
regards
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LOL yeah i dont think iphone is the answer just never heard that many problems with them albeit the left hand reception problem. BTW Mazuma Mobile offer 159 GBP for the handset so thanks but no thanks.

I'll give you £51.
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.

Not quick enough, £52!
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.

omersak said:
Previously had an iphone 4/3gs, HTC desire - And i have to say, a Galaxy S + xda (speedmod, darkys 2.2.1 rom etc) is currently, hands down, the best mobile phone on the planet.
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I will try this again. I had Darkys version 6 and encountered bugs but i will persevere....I willl try 8 & hope it solves my problems

JJEgan said:
£51
jje
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im not going to £52 cause its not worth it

All joking aside mate, get docs jpy, go and bake ye own rom in his kitchen, choose wipe version, back up ye apps and flash via cwm - kiss your problems goodbye.
doc jpy 7.1, jpx, k12i.

BaggyBizzle said:
LOL yeah i dont think iphone is the answer just never heard that many problems with them albeit the left hand reception problem. BTW Mazuma Mobile offer 159 GBP for the handset so thanks but no thanks.
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no probs m8 its just most threads moaning about the galaxy s say if they dont find the answer they threaten to go for the iphone
the iphone has more problems than the reception issue im not going to go into them all but the recent one was the alarm fooked up after the new year
regards

thebazman said:
no probs m8 its just most threads moaning about the galaxy s say if they dont find the answer they threaten to go for the iphone
the iphone has more problems than the reception issue im not going to go into them all but the recent one was the alarm fooked up after the new year
regards
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Just got pissed off really cos i recorded my daughter singing and the phone didnt recognise what it had just recorded...that has happened a few times. I will try another custom rom although i have tried quite a few to see if it rectifies anything. Thanks for cheering me up a bit anyway.