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batt, chargers,....

hi,
is there is difference between charging at charger or usb? charging speed, battery life?
whats your aprox. batt life for one charging?
What about car charger (there is lots of story that is no good for batt?) its a same jack for mda compact, jasjar and phone motorola v3! can use theese chargers safely!?
tnx!

I have a motorola BT headset with usb style plug so that users can charge headset and phone (ie V3) at the same time, I have tried it with my "spare" o2 xda exec and can confirm that it does not charge dispite the charger being the same voltage as the exec charger - I still cant see why it wouldnt work, unless its something to do with reversed polarity.

I've got a similar problem, I have a Leadtek GPS with a mini USB plug, the output is also 5v and 1amp as per the XDA's charger YET the XDA won't charge.
I presume the XDA charger is sending some kinda of data signal in addition to Voltage that tells the HTC unit to switch onto Charging mode?
I've disected a USB cable trying to get this to work, so has anyone got any ideas as to how to make a Y cable capable of charging the XDA?

I had the same issue with my old Motorola BT headset and the "two-pronged" charger. When I plugged in the car charger and connected the Exec....nothing. Until I turned OFF the phone and left the phone connected to the charger. Hey Presto! Charging light.
Now though the BT headset packed in and I've had to buy a G2 from Bluetrek.
Cheers
Ant

Oh right! So you turned the Phone element off, or do you mean put the PDA on standby mode?
I'll play more with this later.

Pressed the power button.
Sorry, should have been more precise. With the phone connected, press the power button, wait a few seconds. You should see the green signal light flash a few times, then suddenly flash twice quite quickly. Finally, the charge light should appear.
Cheers
Ant

Dude, you're right!!!
I've just gone ahead, and made my Y cable by stripping two USB cables, joining, heat shrinking...
Plugged it in and IT WORKS!!
YIPPPEEE, that saved me a fortune!!

HTC TyTN does not charge anymore.... Need Help

Hi Guys
I have a problem with my TyTN at the moment.
My device is not charging.
Yesterday i put it in my Docking Station and wait a little time.
But Now the Tynt isnt charged.
I think ist a Problem with my TyTN Hardware.
I have all Power Supplys used they i have, but it doesent work.
Can you help me?
Its this a problem with the accu or a fuse on the circuit ?
Sorry for my broken english i hope you understand me.
Regards Patrik Laube

Hello,
first of all, try to soft reset the device.
If it fails, hard reset it.
If it doesn't work, go the service center.
Good luck

The above advice is fine. But you did not say if any of the LEDs are lit.
Do you get the red NO CHARGE LED?
Does your phone operate normally except for not charging?
Mike

Hello
My Phone is working fine but i cant charge it with the original HTC adapter.
I must load the accu with a special loader.
USB and Charge dont work....
And i have no warranty I cant send it to my operator.
When i plug in the USB Cable it doesent make everthing.
I think it was a to high voltage on the USB or the USB Ground ( - ) had a electrical Power for a litte moment.
Have you an idea?
Thanks for yur help.
Regards Patrik

I had a similar problem, which was sorted by a new rom, but I ascertained it was software problem when I realised it charged when powered off.

PatrikLaube said:
Hello
USB and Charge dont work....
And i have no warranty I cant send it to my operator.
Have you an idea?
Thanks for yur help.
Regards Patrik
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hi,
try this: when your device is connected via usb, tab on the battery icon in the taskbar on you device, go to the register "advanced" and check/uncheck "When Device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the pc"
thats it
greetz
mizi

I'm having an issue along these lines, also.
My phone has been working fine untill the other night when I tried to charge it via the wall electrical outlet. It will not charge at all, the battery has been drained to nothing and I can't turn it on. The yellowish light doesn't turn on when I plug it in like it used to.
I don't know if this is a battery issue or an issue with the USB connection inside of the phone. On a side note, when it did have power and I tried to connect it to the USB via the PC; it didn't work. The phone was on, but the computer didn't even notice the phone was plugged in. That leads me to believe it would be a connection issue; but I'm not quite sure.
If anyone has anything they can add to this I would appreciate it, thank you.
P.S. Bringing it to a service center is a bit out of the question in the mean time seeing as it was bought on eBay and funds are limited for the time-being.

MiZi666 said:
hi,
try this: when your device is connected via usb, tab on the battery icon in the taskbar on you device, go to the register "advanced" and check/uncheck "When Device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the pc"
thats it
greetz
mizi
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Hello, I cannot find the "When Device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the pc" in my device. My Rom is WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.20273 cooked by dvha79_ddt.
My HTC TyTN has the sample problem, but i can use the USB to charge normally. It cannot work using my AC adapter Only when the device is open...

About your Battery Issue.
I'll tell you exactly why ur phone isnt charging anymore... If you have been charging it alot on the USB or pretty much any!! charging on the USB u have killed ur battery, never charge your phone on the USB it kinda sucks they should make these phones able to be Sync'd thru USB without a battery cause these batteries should not be powered thru the USB over Time... from syncing to your pc will kill these batteries i have noticed that when u sync this Tytn Ithru USB and the device is at say 70% it charges up to 100% pretty fast i would recommand to you and anyone who reads this dont sync your TYTN or any HTCC phone for to long to the USB Cause it will Trash your batteries Life down the road... Hope this was HELPFUL.
Cheers
Paul

PatrikLaube said:
Hello
My Phone is working fine but i cant charge it with the original HTC adapter.
I must load the accu with a special loader.
USB and Charge dont work....
And i have no warranty I cant send it to my operator.
When i plug in the USB Cable it doesent make everthing.
I think it was a to high voltage on the USB or the USB Ground ( - ) had a electrical Power for a litte moment.
Have you an idea?
Thanks for yur help.
Regards Patrik
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hi, did anyone solve this problem ? ive got the same problem with my htc touch cruise, i think it charges when turned off but doesnt when on. the orange light doesnt turn on when i plug usb to charge it and it doesnt sync thru the PC neither.
Does anyone has a solution to this ?Thanks a lot!

does anyone has a solution to this ?
hi, did anyone solve this problem ? ive got the same problem with my htc touch cruise, i think it charges when turned off but doesnt when on. the orange light doesnt turn on when i plug usb to charge it and it doesnt sync thru the PC neither.
Does anyone has a solution to this ?Thanks a lot!

^I'm having the same problem with my herm200. I did the soft reset, hard reset changed ROMs but still the same problem. I don't think it's the usb connector because if it is it wouldn't have been able to charge the phone even if it's turned off. Before I'm able to charge it turned on but it would take a few minutes before the orange led turns on, but when I use the phone or if I receive a text the orange led would turn off it's like the charger disconnects but after a few minutes it would go back again. Now it just wouldn't charge turned on, sometimes it gets worse where it just wouldn't charge on or off.
Now I'm already planning to buy an external battery charger.

gypsygirl13 said:
^I'm having the same problem with my herm200. I did the soft reset, hard reset changed ROMs but still the same problem. I don't think it's the usb connector because if it is it wouldn't have been able to charge the phone even if it's turned off. Before I'm able to charge it turned on but it would take a few minutes before the orange led turns on, but when I use the phone or if I receive a text the orange led would turn off it's like the charger disconnects but after a few minutes it would go back again. Now it just wouldn't charge turned on, sometimes it gets worse where it just wouldn't charge on or off.
Now I'm already planning to buy an external battery charger.
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Are you using an official 1000mA charger? (Not a 500mA one) 500mA ones work, but they are under-powered and can cause strange behaviour, like not charging whilst turned on or whilst on a call. Similar problems can be found with car-chargers that will not charge until the device is soft reset.
Mike

^no it's not the official charger, I have this usb wall charger called Power Juice (phone and mp3 charger).
Input Voltage: AC100-240V
Output Voltage: 5V
Output Current:1000mAh
Do you think it's because I'm not using the original charger?

fixed my charging problems
The boyfriend told me to try a new cable for my charger so he bought me a 5pin usb cable, tried it at home and it worked! I still need to turn off the screen sometimes but that's ok at least I don't have to turn off the phone anymore. Now my battery charges less than 3 hours.

Hold both SoftKeys and Then press the Power button

Or you can also hold both softkeys and then put your stylus into the reset hole.

answer why it does not charge through the usb
Sorry for the very very late response. Under electrical legislation all hand held electrical devices must be insulated and fused. Some of the chargers that you can purchase are sealed without fuse which indicates that the phone has a fuse contained within its circuitry (or there may be 2 fuses one in each device) .
The problem you have encountered is that you have connected your phone to a computer or mains supply to charge. There has been a surge in the electrical supply either on connection or by un-connecting from these supplies (e.g. connect to the computer as it is booting would see a 65w signal through the USB) and this more often than not blows the fuse which sits on the PCB (printed circuit board) just after the usb connection internally to the phone.
you can either have the fuse fixed for 20/25 gbp or you can purchase a new circuit board or you can use an external charger for the battery. As it is only the power input point that is faulty.
hope this helps

Since we are at this non-charging & battery issue, I would like to ask this question on the D838pro. My battery won't charge even after 24 hours of charging. The red LED blinks thru the whole process. The LED did not turn on to orange or green. It is the battery problem because my spare battery works well. I would like to know what is wrong with the battery as I am willing to strip down the battery. Could it be the battery circuit or wiring that had fired?

cyberdroxxx said:
Since we are at this non-charging & battery issue, I would like to ask this question on the D838pro. My battery won't charge even after 24 hours of charging. The red LED blinks thru the whole process. The LED did not turn on to orange or green. It is the battery problem because my spare battery works well. I would like to know what is wrong with the battery as I am willing to strip down the battery. Could it be the battery circuit or wiring that had fired?
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Never tried stripping down a battery, some things... well, just don't seem worth it. However as a learning exercise it might be interesting. Without lots of testing on a good battery with a multimeter then I have no clue what the readings should be between all the contacts. (Now there's a little job for you) It is as likely the internal structure of the battery is screwed as it is to be a wiring problem.
If you solve it you can certainly report back here
Mike

Now my phone won't charge

Totally stock (but i don't think it matters).
Plug the phone in, orange LED comes on.
Hold it or place in on the counter five seconds later, LED is off.
Had the phone since 6/4.
Anyone else having issues?

Are you using the AC charger ? I have two Evos and one of the chargers does what you are describing. The orange LED comes on and then goes off after a while and the phone stops charging. Does it on both phones, the other charger works fine with both usb cables.

Are you using the USB charger with a computer or laptop or plugging straight into the wall with an AC charger?
This does make a difference because if you are charging with a USB + laptop combination you could be suffering from the computer going to sleep and disabling the USB ports power to conserve laptop battery life. If you are having the issue when plugging into the wall, try plugging into a computer and selecting the "Charge Only" option when your USB debug comes up. Once it does this, allow it to charge for a period of time and then turn the phone off, switch to AC power plug and see what happens.
Perhaps you had some kind of over voltage spike on the charger through the AC plug. I could see it possibly tripping something in the phone to stop taking charge to protect the handset.
Also make sure if you do use a laptop, use a USB 2.0 or better port. More power and faster connection. Gotta love it.

Your charger may not be sourcing enough current anymore (for whatever reason). I have seen the exact same behavior with USB car chargers that were only sourcing 100-150mA.
Have you tried plugging the USB cable into a modern desktop PC? (Some laptops have reduced current ports, so a desktop is a safer bet)

Its definitely a current issue. I tried to charge my phone using my bluetooth headset's wall charger, but I got the behavior you are describing. The bluetooth headset's charger just doesnt put out enough current.
Are you using the charger that came with the phone? if so, you may want to exchange the charger...

im having the same problem when i connect it to my desktop, it sees it for about 2 secs n then disappears. My computer at work has no problem seeing the phone. i wonder if i need a driver or something for my usb ports, anyone have any ideas??

tarheelsmj12001 said:
im having the same problem when i connect it to my desktop, it sees it for about 2 secs n then disappears. My computer at work has no problem seeing the phone. i wonder if i need a driver or something for my usb ports, anyone have any ideas??
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Probably not a driver issue, but that that rail from the power supply is either undervolted (say 4.6V instead of 5V), or can't provide enough current (amperage) or both. If I recall correctly, the Evo needs 5V @ 1A (+/- 3% tolerance).

Phone not charging
my phone has been charging fine since I got it... even been using the night desk clock app while sleeping at night for the alarm with it plugged in... everything was good...
With my phone about to die today, I plug it in to the wall charger, the led/batter indicator shows that it is charging... then POW.. it says I have a low battery and it needs to be plugged in... WTH??? it is plugged in!
The only thing I did today was flash the new boot.img for the cap fix over in Toast's thread...
Weird thing now is that I took my hero battery and put it in my EVO, plugged it into wall charger, and it stays charging... So, I put my EVO battery in my hero, plugged it in, and whola... it's now charging...
Please help as I am baffled.

MILH0U5E said:
The only thing I did today was flash the new boot.img for the cap fix over in Toast's thread...
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that's your problem right there. that custom kernel is known to have charging issues.

I'm having the same issue with my car charger consistently. Plus my AC charger less consistently. For example, I'll go to bed and plug it in, the next morning I wake up and see the phone is at 80% charge and isn't charging. At some point over night, it gave up. This is with the stock charger too.

Hd2 not getting charged!!!! Pls help me

Hi Folks,
My HTC HD2 Android not getting charged either by a wall charger or usb via my pc... i dont what happened suddenly it got turned off due to low battery and when i pluged it for chrging its not showing orange LED notification of charging. when its off and plugged in Orange LED blinked once and Phone got switched on. And when its connected to PC for abt 3 mins it will show charging and after that it shows discharging and battery drains when it shows it discharging . pls help me out coz i dont want to loose my Leo .
Thanx in advance,,,,

Check the pins at the phone which connects to the battery. Sometimes they are deformed and this cause the charging/not charging problem.
But... in this case I don't think this is the problem, because this problem should not affect direct charging from usb cable.
Anyway check them just for sure!

Thanks VDodi
VDodi said:
Check the pins at the phone which connects to the battery. Sometimes they are deformed and this cause the charging/not charging problem.
But... in this case I don't think this is the problem, because this problem should not affect direct charging from usb cable.
Anyway check them just for sure!
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I tried diff cables but its the same...

Magldr doesn't support charging when phone is off.

Nigeldg said:
Magldr doesn't support charging when phone is off.
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so if your phone dies how do you get it to charge?

Wdustin1 said:
so if your phone dies how do you get it to charge?
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Best way is not to let it run out
However, normally it will have enough charge left once it dies to boot up far enough to start charging. If this is not the case, then you have to cut open a USB cable and use the red and black wires to charge the battery. I have not had to do this and am unsure as to how to do it but there are tutorials. It seems simple enough.

Sarathdna said:
Hi My HTC HD2 Android not getting charged either by a wall charger or usb via my pc... i dont what happened suddenly it got turned off due to low battery and when i pluged it for chrging its not showing orange LED notification of charging.
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Consider, as was previously suggested, a cable connection issue.
While you do not currently have the luxury of looking at your status icons, I have found that, on occasion, when I plugged in the phone to charge, the status icon indicated a USB connection, rather than a charging icon. Unplugging the cable and re-inserting the cable fixed it.
Note that new high quality cables can exhibit the same issue.
You have nothing to lose... Give it a shot.
Good luck.
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Sent from my ICS HD2 with XDA Premium

Nigeldg said:
I have not had to do this and am unsure as to how to do it but there are tutorials. It seems simple enough.
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Take out battery, plug chopped up USB cable into wall charger, use fingers to hold red to + black to -, count to twenty, battery in phone, phone into bootloader, real charger cable into phone and wall charger, leave 10 mins, reboot into android. (Can charge all the way in bootloader, but it seems slower than when android is running.)

samsamuel said:
Take out battery, plug chopped up USB cable into wall charger, use fingers to hold red to + black to -, count to twenty, battery in phone, phone into bootloader, real charger cable into phone and wall charger, leave 10 mins, reboot into android. (Can charge all the way in bootloader, but it seems slower than when android is running.)
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By 'tutorials on how to do this' I basically meant your posts

As previously said if you're using magldr you need to be booted into Android before the phone will charge. You can try to warm the battery up in your hands to squeeze the last bit of power out of it to boot up. Or there are standalone hd2 battery charges you can buy from eBay that charge your battery outside of the phone, they're pretty cheap.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

As Samuel said you can charge phone in bootloader. Just try!

Had to buy external charger
item # M00366 this charger was cheap has led's that change from red to blue as the battery charges and has a usb port so you can charge a battery in phone at the same time.
I'd been alternating tween an extended battery and the original when my HD2 started discharging while plugged in. same batteries and nearly a year of typhoon's excellent ROM progression then wham dead batteries....

Problem with charging from a car charger

I have a problem charging my phone at the car. When I connect the phone to the charger, the charging is constantly switching on and off draining the battery in minutes. I tried other devices and they are being charged fine. The phone itself charges from the wall socket without any problems. I just wonder what the problem is. I am attaching a log in case someone could take a look.

Actually, if I plug in the phone to the car charger, it discharges rather than charges even if it is turned off.

have you tried another car charger to rule that out? if you dont have another one try borrowing one from a friend or something to test it out. i had a similar problem with my N4 and a new car charger resolved it.

TA123 said:
Actually, if I plug in the phone to the car charger, it discharges rather than charges even if it is turned off.
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I dont think it'd be a problem of your phone. If the phone is charging okay with the wall socket charger then your phone is fine. I'd suggest trying out another car charger.

Looks like it was a problem with the cable. It is not from N4 and used to hold fine but now it seems a bit loose. Thanks a lot, everyone, for suggestions.