batt, chargers,.... - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

hi,
is there is difference between charging at charger or usb? charging speed, battery life?
whats your aprox. batt life for one charging?
What about car charger (there is lots of story that is no good for batt?) its a same jack for mda compact, jasjar and phone motorola v3! can use theese chargers safely!?
tnx!

I have a motorola BT headset with usb style plug so that users can charge headset and phone (ie V3) at the same time, I have tried it with my "spare" o2 xda exec and can confirm that it does not charge dispite the charger being the same voltage as the exec charger - I still cant see why it wouldnt work, unless its something to do with reversed polarity.

I've got a similar problem, I have a Leadtek GPS with a mini USB plug, the output is also 5v and 1amp as per the XDA's charger YET the XDA won't charge.
I presume the XDA charger is sending some kinda of data signal in addition to Voltage that tells the HTC unit to switch onto Charging mode?
I've disected a USB cable trying to get this to work, so has anyone got any ideas as to how to make a Y cable capable of charging the XDA?

I had the same issue with my old Motorola BT headset and the "two-pronged" charger. When I plugged in the car charger and connected the Exec....nothing. Until I turned OFF the phone and left the phone connected to the charger. Hey Presto! Charging light.
Now though the BT headset packed in and I've had to buy a G2 from Bluetrek.
Cheers
Ant

Oh right! So you turned the Phone element off, or do you mean put the PDA on standby mode?
I'll play more with this later.

Pressed the power button.
Sorry, should have been more precise. With the phone connected, press the power button, wait a few seconds. You should see the green signal light flash a few times, then suddenly flash twice quite quickly. Finally, the charge light should appear.
Cheers
Ant

Dude, you're right!!!
I've just gone ahead, and made my Y cable by stripping two USB cables, joining, heat shrinking...
Plugged it in and IT WORKS!!
YIPPPEEE, that saved me a fortune!!

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Problem with my AC charger

Very strange problem , can not charge my Atom with the AC charger, the stupid charger charges my Imate JAMin, and JAMin charger wont charge my Atom,
The funny thing is it charges fine through pc usb :shock:
any ideas.
i have exactly the same problem, did u end up figuring it out?? its driving me nuts
I had this issue also, this time with a ghetto charger (that comes with a port for plugging in your USB cables). The ghetto charger works on my Mini, but the Atom stops after 5 seconds. Only the charger that came with the Atom works on it.
Unfortunately, there's no solution for this. Quanta apparently had this safety-locked just like Motorola did their RAZR series.
found out that motorola v3 razor charger could actually charge your atom, thx for your help
LOL... I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT. THE EXACT SAME CHARGER LOCK MECHANISM. >_>
Really? Does it charge as fast as the original charger? Can the original charger be used on a MotoRAZR? This is a very nice hack, tho not quite as useful as some might hope. <_<
im not sure if it would work the other way around, i cant see why not.
charging speed is about the same, but don't quote me on that one
cheers
to cause a short circuit on the plug pins,haha,it will be ok
hi all,
i am encountering another problem... opposite from wats happening to u all. my usb is not charging my atom exec when the battery is 35% or lower...
does anyone encounter the same problem?
I have a tytn and had the same problem, can charge and sync thru usb but no luck with the ac-charger. Thou yesterday i noticed if i leave it on in the ac-charger long enough it actually starts charging. Weird but i've tried and it really worked the cpl of times i tried. It takes about a minute or two before the led turn orange.
Same problem here. It charges on USB but not on my original AC charger. Has anyone already found the reason for this?
We have generic and "öther brand" branded chargers here in the Philippines. I've experienced the same problems both with the AC and Car Chargers here until I used a voltage regulator for the AC charger and a motorola car charger. Those that worked with my xda2 doesn't work with my atom. My advise to those with the same problem is to either buy a motorola AC or Car Charger whichever you need or use a voltage regulator in tandem with your original AC charger. If your PC USB doesn't charge while syncing with your PC, format your PC. Chances are, it's too cluttered already.
Hope this helps
how come it says in the manual that while charging the atom, it will display an amber/orange light?mine is displaying a red light?and i am encountering the same problem when charging. it charges for 5seconds and it will stop. the battery indicator displays a full bar.but it is not actually charged.can someone post the specification of the original charger that came with the package?i just bought a new charger here in singapore since i left my charger in the philippines.and the original charger that i got is for atom stealth. will it be okay?

USB charging

My new M3100 is great, apart from one thing. I seem unable to charge it using any of the three in-car adapters I have that worked a treat with my Prophet.
Anyone know if this is an issue, or just specific to my M3100 (which appears to not be charging properly even when on USB or mains adapter)?
Cheers,
Sam
i have tried 2 different USB car chargers and neither have worked. Last one was 1A but still no joy.
Did you drain up the batt? I mean, was it full discharged when you attemped to recharge it? I have the same problem, no way to recharge it, at least the orange light doesn't show up.
If i try it at home, no prob. But what with a usb? no way
There are issues with some car charger USB connections.
I do not suffer this problem because I find it very useful to have an "inverter" permanently in the car. For those that have not seen these, it is a device that converts the battery voltage to mains supply voltage. This allows you to plug in as if you were at home. Handy for your hermes, laptop, phone etc etc without the hassle of special in car setups - just plug in with your normal mains plug. Most of these devices just plug into your cigarette lighter socket, although I have mine permanently wired in - so I also have the socket still available.
here is a UK example but I imagine they are available for all countries:
http://www.caravantechnology.com/pr...&selection=1&gclid=CMn-1fXq1YoCFR2UEAodLSvYLw
There is a known issue on car charging where the device will only charge when switched off. If this is your problem see the wiki here or my link below.
http://michael channon
Mike
I've had that problem too. Strangely enough, restarting my 8525 gets the car charger to start working
try powering off your unit, it will get the orange light. Turn it back on after 5 mins and the charging will hold. not sure why.
I was having the same problem as mentioned above with a usb car charger that came with my GPS, however I just received my car charger from HTC FINALLY! With the HTC car charger and home charger, I have no issues charging the Hermes where I sometimes run into problems with say a generic motorola or igo power adapter - these sometimes require me to restart my device before charging begins.
By the way, I am going on a trip where I'll be away from power for 4 days ... can anyone recommed a portable cell phone charger that runs either off of AA batteries or solar power?
I think there is another thread about this somewhere, but I don't have time to look it up. I've had this same problem with several chargers that worked fine on my Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard). History is that there is a firmware issue on the TyTN that checks for a data pin in the USB interface coming from the charger, and if it doesn't have the right voltage on it, the phone doesn't charge. When you totally power down the device (holding down power button for a while and then hitting yes to the power down question), then the charger works. It's when the device is in standby that it doesn't work right, because the firmware checks for the pin to be correct, doesn't find it, and disables the charging circuitry.

Right charger for my Orange SPV 3100

HI friends after my last charger got lost I am looking for another charger but as I am not able to find a right one I am forced to charge it with my PC USB. May I know which is the right charger I mean the voltage because I have a mp3 player charger with USB plug. Can I use that it differs in the voltage up to a very less extent. Is there any harm of using duplicate or different companies charger. I have heard that motorola charger works with HTC devices as well. So plz guide me friends with Your valuable comments..Cheers
The output on my charger is 5v--- 1000mA. I have a similar charger for my Motorola S9 stereo bluetooth headphones and use this to charge my phone but this is 5v---850mA and I have noticed that although it charges the phone sometimes the charge icon does not light up.
I sometimes use the phone charge to charge my bluetooth GPS but although it charges fine the GPS won't work at the same time as I am charging, which it will do with a PC USB lead or even the Motorola charger.
I would try and get a charger that puts out 1000mA. (1A)
Wam7 said:
The output on my charger is 5v--- 1000mA. I have a similar charger for my Motorola S9 stereo bluetooth headphones and use this to charge my phone but this is 5v---850mA and I have noticed that although it charges the phone sometimes the charge icon does not light up.
I sometimes use the phone charge to charge my bluetooth GPS but although it charges fine the GPS won't work at the same time as I am charging, which it will do with a PC USB lead or even the Motorola charger.
I would try and get a charger that puts out 1000mA. (1A)
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Yes, very much agree with that. Non official chargers are OK as a stop gap until you get the correct 5v, 1000mA one. Some quirky things can happen using lower power ones. (the mini usb connector is wired slightly differently and this can have some odd - but not usually damaging effects).
Mike

Charging - Desk v Car - Confusing

Hey Guys,
I have a query regarding charging my Hermes / 8525.
If I plug the phone into a wall unit, the orange charge light immediately comes on.
If I use the phone, or receive a call the phone continues to charge.
Once the phone has been used the phone/screen stays on.
When I plug the phone into my car adapter, the phone doesn't begin to charge until the phone goes into sleep mode. But then when I go to use the phone it stops charging. So if the battery is on it's last minutes, plugging the phone into my car adapter does NOT let me continue to use the phone. I have tried 3 different car chargers.
This week I bought an XTLINK Bluetooth Cell to Landline Converter. This is a great little box, and I love that once I walk into my house my cell phone rings through my phone system. Call Clarity is great.
But with the Bluetooth link active constantly the battery drains like crazy.
So I purchased a desktop charger unit. It arrived today. You can use it to charge the phone or with USB to synch the phone. So I plugged in the wall adapter to the cradle, and the phone only charges when not in use.
But when I hook up the cradle via mini-usb to my laptop the phone goes into constant charge mode - but it's doesn't stay on after being in use.
Can someone explain to me why the phone has these different charging modes ? Is there something I can do to change a setting to make the charging more consistent ?
Thank you,
Dave
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no one else knows about this ?
I have the same problem with USB charging in the car when I was running vp3G's Rom. Now I switch to Crc's Rom and the problem is gone.
But my phone would stop charging if I use my GPS software thru bluetooth and bluetooth headset. In that case I just reset my phone and it would charge normal again.
I have seen this too. I don't know the exact details, but the phone checks the charging current when it is on, to see if it's within a certain value. If it's not, it stops the charging circuit to protect the battery. That's why it works when it is asleep. You'll need to buy a car charger specifically designed for the Hermes.
Yep, there is a long thread on car charging on the forum. Like the other uses says, either buy a HTC official charger or have a look at the other thread about soldering pins 4 & 5 together on the USB connector.
I have a generic car charger from a local electronics store that does not have a problem charging whilst talking over a bluetooth hands free and navigating using a
bluetooth gps receiver, however, I am using one of CRC's roms so that might be why.
The only thing I have found is that if I leave the charger plugged into the hermes when I start the car the hermes stops charging and will not charge again until I reboot it... disconnecting the plug before cranking the engine and then whacking it in straight after works around the problem though.
There is probably so much of a voltage drop when cranking the engine that the little DC-DC convertor can not keep the charge current up.

Emergency charger and Tytn II

Hello, I've just bought an emergency charger for my Kaiser. It takes the power from an AA battery and gives the USB voltage in the output. It works great with my Mio A 501, but doesn't work at all with the Kaiser. I did a quick search and found this in a discussion about car chargers:
Are you using the HTC charger or an OEM one?
The HTC charger works all the time the OEM ones don't - the reason being that if you use a normal Mini USB cable, the handsets will only take a charge if there is an indication of a data connection (either than gprs or the cable) - otherwise it won't take a charge.
You can apparently solder a couple of wires together on a normal mini USB cable - but I wouldn't know where to start on that!
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Now I've already heard of that, for example, a Play Station Portable needs the data wires in the USB grounded in order to charge. Is it the same with Kaiser? (putting three wires together isn't a big deal) Or is there an easier way how to make it charge?
So, I gave it a try and soldered the data wires with the ground wire. But when I try to charge the Kaiser, a yellow led starts to glow (which it didn't with the original cable) and, after a minute or two, the led goes off and Kaiser stops charging. When I turn the Kaiser off and then plug the cable in, the yellow led doesn't go off. However, when I turn Kaiser back on to check the battery meter (after about half an hour), I find out that the battery didn't take any charge at all. So, could anyone tell me what the problem is?
thanks, Mike
PS.: Adding some photos of the wires...
Probably because of the voltage...
Hey!
Have you checked the output voltage of this charger? Standard charger outputs 5V. If yours outputs less - the battery won't charge; if outputs more - you may "burn" your PDA chipsets
5V - 5.5V is safe range.
I found this on thinkgeek.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/b43f/
It says for iPhone, but sure it would work just fine with other devices that have issues.
had a same problem but using it in the car...
when i got my tytn2 i immediately bought a car charger and the salesman told it's an original one, said output 5v 1A.. when using in the car it charged for a minute or two and went off... than i got from ebay a micro usb 1A charger (used for iPhone too) and tried in the car-> it work flawlessly

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