My new M3100 is great, apart from one thing. I seem unable to charge it using any of the three in-car adapters I have that worked a treat with my Prophet.
Anyone know if this is an issue, or just specific to my M3100 (which appears to not be charging properly even when on USB or mains adapter)?
Cheers,
Sam
i have tried 2 different USB car chargers and neither have worked. Last one was 1A but still no joy.
Did you drain up the batt? I mean, was it full discharged when you attemped to recharge it? I have the same problem, no way to recharge it, at least the orange light doesn't show up.
If i try it at home, no prob. But what with a usb? no way
There are issues with some car charger USB connections.
I do not suffer this problem because I find it very useful to have an "inverter" permanently in the car. For those that have not seen these, it is a device that converts the battery voltage to mains supply voltage. This allows you to plug in as if you were at home. Handy for your hermes, laptop, phone etc etc without the hassle of special in car setups - just plug in with your normal mains plug. Most of these devices just plug into your cigarette lighter socket, although I have mine permanently wired in - so I also have the socket still available.
here is a UK example but I imagine they are available for all countries:
http://www.caravantechnology.com/pr...&selection=1&gclid=CMn-1fXq1YoCFR2UEAodLSvYLw
There is a known issue on car charging where the device will only charge when switched off. If this is your problem see the wiki here or my link below.
http://michael channon
Mike
I've had that problem too. Strangely enough, restarting my 8525 gets the car charger to start working
try powering off your unit, it will get the orange light. Turn it back on after 5 mins and the charging will hold. not sure why.
I was having the same problem as mentioned above with a usb car charger that came with my GPS, however I just received my car charger from HTC FINALLY! With the HTC car charger and home charger, I have no issues charging the Hermes where I sometimes run into problems with say a generic motorola or igo power adapter - these sometimes require me to restart my device before charging begins.
By the way, I am going on a trip where I'll be away from power for 4 days ... can anyone recommed a portable cell phone charger that runs either off of AA batteries or solar power?
I think there is another thread about this somewhere, but I don't have time to look it up. I've had this same problem with several chargers that worked fine on my Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard). History is that there is a firmware issue on the TyTN that checks for a data pin in the USB interface coming from the charger, and if it doesn't have the right voltage on it, the phone doesn't charge. When you totally power down the device (holding down power button for a while and then hitting yes to the power down question), then the charger works. It's when the device is in standby that it doesn't work right, because the firmware checks for the pin to be correct, doesn't find it, and disables the charging circuitry.
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hi,
is there is difference between charging at charger or usb? charging speed, battery life?
whats your aprox. batt life for one charging?
What about car charger (there is lots of story that is no good for batt?) its a same jack for mda compact, jasjar and phone motorola v3! can use theese chargers safely!?
tnx!
I have a motorola BT headset with usb style plug so that users can charge headset and phone (ie V3) at the same time, I have tried it with my "spare" o2 xda exec and can confirm that it does not charge dispite the charger being the same voltage as the exec charger - I still cant see why it wouldnt work, unless its something to do with reversed polarity.
I've got a similar problem, I have a Leadtek GPS with a mini USB plug, the output is also 5v and 1amp as per the XDA's charger YET the XDA won't charge.
I presume the XDA charger is sending some kinda of data signal in addition to Voltage that tells the HTC unit to switch onto Charging mode?
I've disected a USB cable trying to get this to work, so has anyone got any ideas as to how to make a Y cable capable of charging the XDA?
I had the same issue with my old Motorola BT headset and the "two-pronged" charger. When I plugged in the car charger and connected the Exec....nothing. Until I turned OFF the phone and left the phone connected to the charger. Hey Presto! Charging light.
Now though the BT headset packed in and I've had to buy a G2 from Bluetrek.
Cheers
Ant
Oh right! So you turned the Phone element off, or do you mean put the PDA on standby mode?
I'll play more with this later.
Pressed the power button.
Sorry, should have been more precise. With the phone connected, press the power button, wait a few seconds. You should see the green signal light flash a few times, then suddenly flash twice quite quickly. Finally, the charge light should appear.
Cheers
Ant
Dude, you're right!!!
I've just gone ahead, and made my Y cable by stripping two USB cables, joining, heat shrinking...
Plugged it in and IT WORKS!!
YIPPPEEE, that saved me a fortune!!
When I plug my MDA Pro into my PC it draws 460mA of current at 4.75V and the orange charging light always comes on.
I have bought a car charger - when the MDA Pro is plugged into that it also draws 460mA at 5.04V but the Pro doesn't always seem to realise it is being charged - the orange charging light doesn't come on and the backlight switches off so I cant see the SatNav! (when the light goes off the current goes down to 430mA)
The charger was bought of eBay from shop4hardware/PCglobe for £9.99 and it looks well made.
Any ideas what is going wrong? Has anyone got a 12V charger they are happy with - if so where did it come from and how much??
ceemjay the tight fisted
I bought a car charger off eBay, and while the orange light does come on and stay on, it doesn't seem to charge very effectively. If i'm using something like TomTom the charger manages to keep the battery charge level just about constant, rather than building up charge.
Is this a problem with the Universal? I had a Blue Angel before the Universal, and the car charger I had for that was very effective.
Cheers
Rowan
I had this problem too and solved it by purchasing an "orange" (UK mobile phone operator) branded charger for 10 quid from one of their shops. I have no issues now.
What i did notice when I had the problem was by ensuring the xda was off prior to plugging in the old charger, it would continue to stay orange when turned on. I think this problem is a common one with the usb cable & car charger adaptors combo.
i bought one from expansys, what i noticed:
1. It takes a lot of jiggling, pushing, pulling and twisting to get it recognised by the device (organge light on)
2. When it charges, it does so slowly, i think about 1% per 10 minutes or so, or about 10% per hour.
My two bobs worth anyway.
Many of the mini USB car chargers are simply not powerful enough to charge these devices. They all have the same voltage but the amps are different. I read somewhere that good M5000 car chargers should be rated at 1amp, I'm not sure about this but I've certainly had trouble with ones at around 600mah.
With the under powered chargers you often have to plug them in while the device is switched off. Even then it's not going to charge as well or as quickly. Getting them to start charging without turning you device off is just down to luck and patience.
My advice is to look for chargers that are specific for the M5000 etc. If it also mentions Motorola phones etc, then it's not going to have the required power output.
I hope this helps...
I bought an ORA one from a service station (phone bitz type shop), it was a bit expensive but I needed one in a hurry and you can test them in the store.
as per my earlier post - m5000 is orange branded htc universal, aka o2 xda exec. I believe mine stated it was for the spv500 and it still worked fine...
The universal wants a 2 amp charger really. the 0.5 amp from most chargers including USB ports just is not enough to do much more than stop your battery draining whilst your universal is in use !! other useful alternatives include the charger meant for the newish blackberry
Thanks for all the comments.
The charger that comes with the Pro is rated at 1A however I believe the USB spec only allows up to 500mA to be drawn (as I orginally posted it draws just below that) and I have never had a problem with charging via USB. Hence my confusion!
Is the charging software controlled and might there may be a bug which manifests itself under circumstances?
Clive
The Brodit active holder charges the universal first time everytime, and is a very good place to store the phone on the move. I've got a 3.5mm input on my car stereo and use my phone as my in car music source. If I could get a 3.5mm 4 pole to 3.5mm stereo plug and breakout mic it would be perfect since I could use it as decent handsfree solution, voice command can still use the built in mic when the stereo connection is inserted but the phone app doesn't.
The Brodit holders are nice. I prefer the unpowered version, so I use a separate charger cable. But I agree good holders.
When the PDA part of the phone is turned on and I plug the unit into the AC wall charger or car charger the phone will not always go into charge / full power mode (i.e. the charge light does not come on, the screen does not go to max brightness as it has been defined in the settings, and the bettery icon at the bottom of the sceen does not show that the unit is on AC/external power). I have tried this on the OEM charger and several other mini-USB chargers - one charger will work one time but will not work later that same day. The only way to ensure a charger will work while I am using the PDA is to soft rest the unit right before I plug it in to the AC or car charger.
Only the PC/ActiveSync USB cables charge any time (PDA on or off) when plugged in to a PC.
Is this a hardware problem or a software problem? Please HELP!!!
Make: VPA Compact III (HERM200)
ROM: 1.20.161.5
Radio: 1.03.06.00
jeutaw said:
When the PDA part of the phone is turned on and I plug the unit into the AC wall charger or car charger the phone will not always go into charge / full power mode (i.e. the charge light does not come on, the screen does not go to max brightness as it has been defined in the settings, and the bettery icon at the bottom of the sceen does not show that the unit is on AC/external power). I have tried this on the OEM charger and several other mini-USB chargers - one charger will work one time but will not work later that same day. The only way to ensure a charger will work while I am using the PDA is to soft rest the unit right before I plug it in to the AC or car charger.
Only the PC/ActiveSync USB cables charge any time (PDA on or off) when plugged in to a PC.
Is this a hardware problem or a software problem? Please HELP!!!
Make: VPA Compact III (HERM200)
ROM: 1.20.161.5
Radio: 1.03.06.00
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Have not personally come across this, though I did once get the fairly common red light when Hermes knows the chargers there but refuses to charge.
Whether this is software or hardware is not straightforward. At first you would tend towards a hardware issue if the PC USB link always charges. Suggesting a fault in the contacts of the charger devices.
However an increasing number of phones generally have circuitry to detect their own chargers. Notably many of the Motorola phones that actually pop up a note saying unauthorised charger. I am not aware that Hermes has this function and does not have any message pop up. The surprise here is that the OEM charger is similarly flaky. However if a software reset without moving connections around does sound more software than hardware and possibly related to a loaded application?
Mike
Seems to be a known problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274665&highlight=reset
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277742&highlight=reset
Hey Guys,
I have a query regarding charging my Hermes / 8525.
If I plug the phone into a wall unit, the orange charge light immediately comes on.
If I use the phone, or receive a call the phone continues to charge.
Once the phone has been used the phone/screen stays on.
When I plug the phone into my car adapter, the phone doesn't begin to charge until the phone goes into sleep mode. But then when I go to use the phone it stops charging. So if the battery is on it's last minutes, plugging the phone into my car adapter does NOT let me continue to use the phone. I have tried 3 different car chargers.
This week I bought an XTLINK Bluetooth Cell to Landline Converter. This is a great little box, and I love that once I walk into my house my cell phone rings through my phone system. Call Clarity is great.
But with the Bluetooth link active constantly the battery drains like crazy.
So I purchased a desktop charger unit. It arrived today. You can use it to charge the phone or with USB to synch the phone. So I plugged in the wall adapter to the cradle, and the phone only charges when not in use.
But when I hook up the cradle via mini-usb to my laptop the phone goes into constant charge mode - but it's doesn't stay on after being in use.
Can someone explain to me why the phone has these different charging modes ? Is there something I can do to change a setting to make the charging more consistent ?
Thank you,
Dave
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no one else knows about this ?
I have the same problem with USB charging in the car when I was running vp3G's Rom. Now I switch to Crc's Rom and the problem is gone.
But my phone would stop charging if I use my GPS software thru bluetooth and bluetooth headset. In that case I just reset my phone and it would charge normal again.
I have seen this too. I don't know the exact details, but the phone checks the charging current when it is on, to see if it's within a certain value. If it's not, it stops the charging circuit to protect the battery. That's why it works when it is asleep. You'll need to buy a car charger specifically designed for the Hermes.
Yep, there is a long thread on car charging on the forum. Like the other uses says, either buy a HTC official charger or have a look at the other thread about soldering pins 4 & 5 together on the USB connector.
I have a generic car charger from a local electronics store that does not have a problem charging whilst talking over a bluetooth hands free and navigating using a
bluetooth gps receiver, however, I am using one of CRC's roms so that might be why.
The only thing I have found is that if I leave the charger plugged into the hermes when I start the car the hermes stops charging and will not charge again until I reboot it... disconnecting the plug before cranking the engine and then whacking it in straight after works around the problem though.
There is probably so much of a voltage drop when cranking the engine that the little DC-DC convertor can not keep the charge current up.
Hello, I've just bought an emergency charger for my Kaiser. It takes the power from an AA battery and gives the USB voltage in the output. It works great with my Mio A 501, but doesn't work at all with the Kaiser. I did a quick search and found this in a discussion about car chargers:
Are you using the HTC charger or an OEM one?
The HTC charger works all the time the OEM ones don't - the reason being that if you use a normal Mini USB cable, the handsets will only take a charge if there is an indication of a data connection (either than gprs or the cable) - otherwise it won't take a charge.
You can apparently solder a couple of wires together on a normal mini USB cable - but I wouldn't know where to start on that!
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Now I've already heard of that, for example, a Play Station Portable needs the data wires in the USB grounded in order to charge. Is it the same with Kaiser? (putting three wires together isn't a big deal) Or is there an easier way how to make it charge?
So, I gave it a try and soldered the data wires with the ground wire. But when I try to charge the Kaiser, a yellow led starts to glow (which it didn't with the original cable) and, after a minute or two, the led goes off and Kaiser stops charging. When I turn the Kaiser off and then plug the cable in, the yellow led doesn't go off. However, when I turn Kaiser back on to check the battery meter (after about half an hour), I find out that the battery didn't take any charge at all. So, could anyone tell me what the problem is?
thanks, Mike
PS.: Adding some photos of the wires...
Probably because of the voltage...
Hey!
Have you checked the output voltage of this charger? Standard charger outputs 5V. If yours outputs less - the battery won't charge; if outputs more - you may "burn" your PDA chipsets
5V - 5.5V is safe range.
I found this on thinkgeek.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/b43f/
It says for iPhone, but sure it would work just fine with other devices that have issues.
had a same problem but using it in the car...
when i got my tytn2 i immediately bought a car charger and the salesman told it's an original one, said output 5v 1A.. when using in the car it charged for a minute or two and went off... than i got from ebay a micro usb 1A charger (used for iPhone too) and tried in the car-> it work flawlessly