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have you seen the new ipod touch...
i like the way that thing can play game`s
http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/games.html
(whats the QuickTour)
can somone make somthing like that for the diamond that would be GREAT!!
any race game or somthing...

Have you genuinely posted an entire thread just to say "Can someone make some games or something because the iPhone has some stuff"? Seriously?
I really hope for your sake this is a troll attempt...

Medulla said:
Have you genuinely posted an entire thread just to say "Can someone make some games or something because the iPhone has some stuff"? Seriously?
I really hope for your sake this is a troll attempt...
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i think this guy means, why in the hell does aplle has such nice apps and for certain nice games for such a crappy phone.. And while our super Diamond doesn't have any cool games except the games from 20 years ago when our pc's were still working on the first windows edition.. I mean come on..
No effence on the people on this forum who are making such nice apps and games.. Cause you guys rock!! and make my diamond look more amazing!!
In that i must give apple a cheer, cause htc has developed a verry nice phone but a lack on software and games.. Cause why does my diamond has such good hardware but there's no software to play with it..

iphone the world talk about. That's why it going to get more games than htc diamond. htc diamond is more for insider for fan. I have iphone and htc diamond. I use most of the time htc diamond. But I think iphone is better. Just htc has win mobile. Which I can have more prog than iphone. but it will change.

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i think this guy means, why in the hell does aplle has such nice apps and for certain nice games for such a crappy phone.. And while our super Diamond doesn't have any cool games except the games from 20 years ago when our pc's were still working on the first windows edition.. I mean come on..
No effence on the people on this forum who are making such nice apps and games.. Cause you guys rock!! and make my diamond look more amazing!!
In that i must give apple a cheer, cause htc has developed a verry nice phone but a lack on software and games.. Cause why does my diamond has such good hardware but there's no software to play with it..
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Thank You

here is johnny said:
i think this guy means, why in the hell does aplle has such nice apps and for certain nice games for such a crappy phone.. And while our super Diamond doesn't have any cool games except the games from 20 years ago when our pc's were still working on the first windows edition.. I mean come on..
No effence on the people on this forum who are making such nice apps and games.. Cause you guys rock!! and make my diamond look more amazing!!
In that i must give apple a cheer, cause htc has developed a verry nice phone but a lack on software and games.. Cause why does my diamond has such good hardware but there's no software to play with it..
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*sigh* It's bad enough that tiesku's posted his nonsense, but it's worse that you're bizarrely willing to apologise for him without, apparently, even Googling for five minutes:
http://www.astraware.com/ppc/
http://www.handango.co.uk/SoftwareC...3274&topSectionId=3274&catalog=30&title=Games
All the games you could want, and that's just from the two online stores I happen to know about, there's undoubtedly a lot more out there.

I think people seem to forget (or don't know) that the Diamond is a Windows Mobile and doesn't need Diamond specific apps/games (apart from missing functions like g-sensor).

Medulla said:
*sigh* It's bad enough that tiesku's posted his nonsense, but it's worse that you're bizarrely willing to apologise for him without, apparently, even Googling for five minutes:
http://www.astraware.com/ppc/
http://www.handango.co.uk/SoftwareC...3274&topSectionId=3274&catalog=30&title=Games
All the games you could want, and that's just from the two online stores I happen to know about, there's undoubtedly a lot more out there.
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You've seen the games on the apple site and even dare to compare with the crap wich you even have to pay for, don't get me wrong if it is a good nice looking game okey, but this is rubbish.. i mean the diamond does have a graphics accelerator card though? Games on the apple site you can play them with g-sensor, steering gas brake that kind of stuff.. I have some games on my diamond to, but i mean why doesn't htc design some programs or games for their Diamond?? They could make a lot of money with that to.. thats what i'm saying.. developing a good machine, but leave it there.. no apps or games for the diamond..

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You've seen the games on the apple site and even dare to compare with the crap wich you even have to pay for
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Of course you have to pay! You need to pay for games from the Apple App Store as well!
here is johnny said:
don't get me wrong if it is a good nice looking game okey, but this is rubbish
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What exactly is rubbish? I've linked you to two online stores full of games for Windows Mobile and you appear to have written every single one of them off as 'rubbish' in about five minutes. What are you actually talking about or even looking for here?
here is johnny said:
i mean the diamond does have a graphics accelerator card though?
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And? Are you actually going to make some kind of valid point or just randomly type things?
here is johnny said:
Games on the apple site you can play them with g-sensor, steering gas brake that kind of stuff.. I have some games on my diamond to, but i mean why doesn't htc design some programs or games for their Diamond??
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Because HTC are a hardware company, not a sodding software publisher that's why! They're not in the market of making games any more than Ford design tyres or sell paint.
here is johnny said:
developing a good machine, but leave it there.. no apps or games for the diamond..
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No one has 'left it there', there are shedloads of games and applications all over the place for the Windows Mobile platform; indeed there's far, far more available than there is or probably ever will be for the iPhone.

I have a HTC Diamond and love it....but for games I use my PSP...
Come on you have to admit, Windows mobile games are pretty basic compared to....These Iphone screen shots
http://uk.wireless.ign.com/dor/obje...er-2009-20080910042453997.html?page=mediaFull
http://uk.wireless.ign.com/dor/obje...leashed-20080806115543442.html?page=mediaFull
http://uk.wireless.ign.com/dor/obje...ercover-20080909040554711.html?page=mediaFull

Medulla said:
*sigh* It's bad enough that tiesku's posted his nonsense, but it's worse that you're bizarrely willing to apologise for him without, apparently, even Googling for five minutes:
http://www.astraware.com/ppc/
http://www.handango.co.uk/SoftwareC...3274&topSectionId=3274&catalog=30&title=Games
All the games you could want, and that's just from the two online stores I happen to know about, there's undoubtedly a lot more out there.
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wohoooo.this games are so good...should we get some money for playing them?

zigor said:
wohoooo.this games are so good...should we get some money for playing them?
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Irony...I love it!

Sorry but i would never pay for a WM Game. They are really crap. My girlfriend has the 2g iphone and i've got the diamond. I was rubbin it in her face that i was getting the best mobile phone(Diamond).I Was Wrong. But to be honest i'm really thinking of getting rid of it for the 3g iphone.
The games and apps on iphone are far superior. Graphics and gameplay! Plus there's loads.
No video calls on iphone. So what, video calling is probably the crappest invention. I don't know anybody that uses it.
Iphone has gps using Google maps which aint too bad.On the Diamond I have had a gps fix one and i've tried every Radio version. Could be where i live but iphone works here.
Diamond has a better screen resolution. GREAT! No not really. Crap how small is the screen. Besides the iphone looks miles better quality.
Don't get me wrong i love both phones. I'm not a h8r.
Just stating the facts.
One more thing.
If the Diamond was as stable as the iphone. People wouldn't have to spend all there time cooking roms instead of using there time to make Brilliant games.
Thanks for reading just wanted to have my say. Plz don't think i'm starting an arguement

You're entitled to your opinion doinbox and I respect that, but having tried both the iPhone 3G and HTC TD I'm sticking with the TD. It can do so much more than the iPhone. Here's just a few of its advantages, IMHO
Sync with my office documents,
Picture messaging
Video
Cut and paste
Swappable battery
Bluetooth stereo music (A2DP)
Has a higher, sharper screen res, which helps me big style.
A better camera
Physically it's also noticebaly smaller and fits easily in my jeans pocket,
the iPhone is quite big by comparison.
If I just wanted to play the arcadey style games on an iPhone I'd buy a PSP instead.

Blah blah blah.. iPhone vs Diamond again.. But you all are right. We need better games for our Diamond

Iphone
Hi there,
I don't see the issue of the initial poster here. There are far more games/apps (and by god better ones) available for Windows mobile and there always will be.
The IPhone is a peace of crap in a nice jacket and with s*** loads of PR thats wy it's popular but it doesn't make it less crappy. They make you pay for every little thing and in the end they will make you pay even more. If you want that then thats fine, i don't.
doinbox:
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The games and apps on iphone are far superior. Graphics and gameplay! Plus there's loads
I hate to bring this to you because this is a straight out lie.
People make Roms because they like to fiddle around with OS stuff and to twink the hell out of it for fun, they don't do this because the Diamond would need it, a 1.93 stock rom runs perfectly stable and fast.
It is time for you to wake up and get ur facts strait. The Touch Diamond beats the Iphone in every way possible (hardware/software).
Just the fact that we lucky bastards can even change our own OS makes the Diamond superior over the IPhone in my book.
Greetz
Caved

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a 1.93 stock rom runs perfectly stable and fast.
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That made me laugh.
I'm Quite sure the biggest htc diamond fan in the world would admit its not perfectly stable and fast.
Didn't You read my post properly. I own a Diamond so i know from my own use its not stable. Funnily enough i just had it replaced today because it kept crashing on me. Even with l8st firmware.
I like the Diamond but i have paid for games and apps and none of them are better graphics than iphone games such as monkeyball or crash bandicoot kart or the fish app the water looks so real when you touch it. You post a link here to an app/game with graphics that good that would run on diamond and i'll hold my hands up and say i'm wrong. But i've seen and tried every game on wm6 and i know i wont be seeing a link from you.
Stop being so defensive over the Diamond everyone knows its full of problems. Well maybe not on the Hardware side, but WM6.1 is Terrible and nobody can deny that.

doinbox
I won't go into a flamewar with you, if you like IPhone thats fine with me. I love my Diamond and i think its way better then the Iphone maybe the right software for it is getting there a bit slow, so what ....
greetz
Caved

guys, guys, what's the point arguing?
we all know there are people who adore iphone and there are people who wouldn't trade their touch xy for the world. these two phones are simply aiming each at a little different clientele, and let's leave it at that. otherwise it's just an ideological discussion...
as for the games, the thing about the wm games is that there are thousands of them, some better, some worse, but because (naturally) the majority of them has been developed for the wm 5 or even 2002/2003 editions, they're simpler than the new ones, with simpler graphics, worse resolution etc. and all iphone games are developed to utilize the iphone fully.
so just look for the newer wm6 / diamond games and stop complaining about the old games being crap. and remember, games are developed for wm platform, meaning also for weaker devices, not only for our diamonds
personally i know of multiple cool games for the wm6, e.g. teeter, ccsnake, worms world party, tennis addict, open transport tycoon deluxe, resco bubbles, bubble snooker, pocket bowling, etc...

doinbox, yphone has better apps & Games? Really, where? GPS is using google maps? Yep and that thing is actually completely useless compared to Tom Tom, iGO e.t.c. I wonder why apple included GPS in the first place.
Apps? There are none. And with the power of pocket informant, One Note Mobile, Word e.t.c WM beats iphone hands down.
As a phone WM platform is much more convinient. It takes less keystrokes and time to call somebody or send SMS|MMS\E-Mail.
The only thing where iPhone really shines is the web. Big screen+Safari is a perfect solution. Diamond and Opera don't even stand close.I don't thing even Touch HD will help. But unforunatly there is no stable ICQ client for iphone, yet.
So the only thing left out - games. But if u open your eyes and look around you will find enough high quality games for WM which use 3d accelerator. Just an example http://www.clickgamer.com/products/pid_5660/screenshots/ppc/large/ss2.gif
Anyway stop whining here and get an iphone

Why is the Iphone killing the Diamond in number of available G-sensor apps??

The Diamond is clearly a superior product to the Iphone (with the exception of the Iphone having more screen real estate). Everytime I turn around, my Iphone-toting colleagues have downloaded a new game from the App Store that uses the accelerometer (g-sensor), and they're really nice games with really nice graphics! I have to pretend not to be jealous of the selection they have at their disposal.
So with all the talent and dedicated WinMo people here, why do you guys think there are only 10+ games for the Diamond? Do you think the revenue that can be made through the Apple App Store is driving higher production for games? Maybe the Iphone is more of a "toy" to some folks and the Diamond is more of an enterprise tool? (Mine is both a toy AND an office tool!)
I love my Diamond... just wish there were some more cool games (like Super Monkey Ball ) that I could get for it!
And yes, if I had one shred of coding skill to my name, I'd start doing it myself... but I don't. The apps that have come out so far though for the Diamond are awesome. Keep 'em coming guys!

I think there are a few things.
1) More iPhones sold - Must be around 10 million vs only maybe 2.5 million Diamonds.
2) The iPhone actually officially supports the G-Sensor, vs the Diamond's API not being officially released.
3) More excitement around the iPhone as a toy.
However, I am in contact with Winplay, and they have said:
Hi ************
Yes, we are working on several games that will take advantage of the accelerometers in devices such as the HTC Touch Diamond… Lots of cool stuff coming out shortly…
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Surur

Yeah, what they said.
Plus, they had that open SDK project going for sometime before it was actually released and developers were smart enough to know, that anything Steve Jobs is excited about, will sale like hotcakes, thus the opportunity for ton's of money.

That's great news! Thanks!

Marketing. Lots and lots of marketing.

I have the diamond and my husband has the iphone. My very gadgety 6-year-old son loved the diamond when he first saw the teeter game. But then the iphone was brought home and even my not-so-keen 4-year-old daughter kept saying she wanted to play "cowabunga" (a very colorful free game from iphone). My son of course was hooked on the car racing game that we downloaded. So far, he just said once that the wallpaper on my diamond was pretty and he didn't play teeter anymore (probably it's not as colorful ).
So conclusion, iphone is much more like a toy than the diamond.
BTW, a side issue. I noticed that iphone's power management is superb compared to diamond. Iphone can last over 2 days with wifi and bluetooth on ALL THE TIME and some games and moderate use. I can't keep my wifi on for my diamond for more than 2 hours.... as I know it can't even last for half day if I do so. And yes, bluetooth on iphone is only an icon on the screen without any use. I kept it on just to show to my husband that it's useless. It's undiscoverable, unpairable..... even its very dear brother Mac book can't make any use with it.
Yes, don't worry. I am still in love with my diamond.

If you want to win your kid over, here are a small collection of games on the diamond he may be interested in.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=accelerometer-game
Surur

surur said:
If you want to win your kid over, here are a small collection of games on the diamond he may be interested in.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=accelerometer-game
Surur
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I still believe that diamond is a more powerful device but with respect to games.... I have to admit that diamond can't win over my kids. I am a bit embarrassed to show the kids those diamond "games", when they can touch and scare the fish in "Koi Pond", or having silly fun with bouncing and falling cows that moo, or driving BMW or Mercedez like crazy in LA street... Yeah yeah, I know unbelievable, but you have to see to admit (go to youtube and take a look at "Koi Pond", "Cowabunga", "Asphalt 4").

Asphalt 4 for is available for Windows mobile too, so it should work on your diamond?

it is not only the Gsen - but for sure screen size and how you "hold" the phones.
I will never ever buy aniPhone, but I do believe it is easier to play Gsen games on it. Kids +6 can not be fooled

no wonder why, have you checked the beer apps on the diamond? I dont mean to offence anyone but its like running at 2fps. And compared to the iphone its [email protected]
Etc....

Mr.Sir said:
Asphalt 4 for is available for Windows mobile too, so it should work on your diamond?
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Asphalt 4 doesn't support VGA screens unfortunately.

BarateaU said:
no wonder why, have you checked the beer apps on the diamond? I dont mean to offence anyone but its like running at 2fps. And compared to the iphone its [email protected]
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I agree completely. Wish it looked more realistic like the Iphone one. But then again, it's not a make-or-break app for me.

If you really like games ! use a psp or nintendo ds. I also have an iphone and
the diamond . Playing games on the iphone is pain in the ass

hi
Keep in mind also the Diamond is relatively new compared iSuck phones, the diamond just hit the US market a few weeks now so its like the word hasent gotten arround to dev about the Diamond as yet, which would relate to what ppl say about marketing, htc hasent really put the diamond in the US yet.
Also imo the iphone is eye candy and that all it will ever be, the diamond on the other hand is all round mostly for seriouse customers for business and what not.

Is this thread really going on???
What the hell is this?
I demand CLOSE.
Its so out of the element.
We all know the ifhone sucks ballzzzz.
And its not only the "functions" of the phone.
We are talking about you being represented by the kindo phone you choose.
I'm terribly sorry to say this but....
I dont like people that choose a fagphone as a first phone and actually go ahead and show it of!
-When ever a nerd shows of his fruitphne in y presence I just think "ya dude you and another billion of sheeps got the same no big deal"
On the other hand we as Diamond users took the dip because we rather have "bugs" (which I dont because WinMob works like a swiss watch) than fall in the pleasing of the crowds as rotten fruit likes!
Remember Felllassss Second best they are!
Sorry if i pizzz of some people but some one has to do it!
Greetings to all.
PS:Forgot:
1. I rather have less "estate" but a VGA screen. Not a dirty 320 by 480 or what ever it has.
2. What ever your "mates" downloaded from a insanely proprietary site has a high chance of being payed for.(obviosly not Jewels case) I like to call it open source.
3. The Diamond is been out for less than year. The ugly fruit is on its "second" gen (same crap).
4.I run a buissness on my own and manage t do a lot through the Diamond and WinMobs awsome connection capabilitys. (those fruitys cant even FTP Bluetooth!)

Sergio PC said:
Is this thread really going on???
What the hell is this?
I demand CLOSE.
Its so out of the element.
We all know the ifhone sucks ballzzzz.
And its not only the "functions" of the phone.
We are talking about you being represented by the kindo phone you choose.
I'm terribly sorry to say this but....
I dont like people that choose a fagphone as a first phone and actually go ahead and show it of!
-When ever a nerd shows of his fruitphne in y presence I just think "ya dude you and another billion of sheeps got the same no big deal"
On the other hand we as Diamond users took the dip because we rather have "bugs" (which I dont because WinMob works like a swiss watch) than fall in the pleasing of the crowds as rotten fruit likes!
Remember Felllassss Second best they are!
Greetings to all.
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I'll put this in my own words middle of night and i cant get techinal.. "Apple = for beginners, Windows = Advanced users who like to have things run the way they want it too, when apple runs things their way, and u r stuck with it." >.>

the iphone has been out for more then a year now with an SDK package for developers, plus a lot of marketing. The diamond is still a baby, and also not even released in US in full potential. With MS building a app repository service and the diamond + touch pro getting more user base, I have the very confidence that we'll be seeing a lot of applications utilizing the G sensor in either utilities or gaming. I mean the things that marvels us already are the g sensor alarm clocks, locking mechinisms and the full ability to use gsen to redraw the screen in any orientation, something the iphone cannot do.
All I can say is give it time, with now the hardware standards rising for windows mobile, you can totally bet that there's going to be pleanty of applications out there utilizing the new technology.

bbju said:
I have the diamond and my husband has the iphone. My very gadgety 6-year-old son loved the diamond when he first saw the teeter game. But then the iphone was brought home and even my not-so-keen 4-year-old daughter kept saying she wanted to play "cowabunga" (a very colorful free game from iphone). My son of course was hooked on the car racing game that we downloaded. So far, he just said once that the wallpaper on my diamond was pretty and he didn't play teeter anymore (probably it's not as colorful ).
So conclusion, iphone is much more like a toy than the diamond.
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bbju,
don't forget the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys

I hate it when people say the Diamond is for the business user. I don't use it for business i bought the phone coz it looked good and had some cool features.
What is everyones problem. As soon as somebody requests a game or app that the iphone has you all cry like babies saying fuk your gayphone and all that ****. I'm starting to get worried coz the "Gayphone" has games in nearly every category so looks like we're not gonna get left with many.

Epic idea :D

So I was browsing youtube..just going from video to video.
Found something very interesting, something that allows multitasking on the iphone (well more or less.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXCC9mTvI4&NR=1
It's proswitcher, it mocks webOS's card multitasking. Imagine this on the android..
I mean if someone can develop that for the iphone which is pretty limited to begin with.. why the hell not for android you know?
What do you guys think?

It is a good idea! I've used that before on my touch, I think it would be cooler with a "expose" type of layout or like "leap".

gmelchert said:
It is a good idea! I've used that before on my touch, I think it would be cooler with a "expose" type of layout or like "leap".
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Care to elaborate? I dont quite understand EXPOSE, or LEAP. @[email protected];

andy rubin,D: dive into mobile, webcast?

Does anyone know if there is going to be a webcast of this, or anyone going to be doing any live feed work..? I would really like to hear what he has to say.

Engadget has a live blog going:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/...om-d-dive-into-mobile/?sort=newest&refresh=60

http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/201...-android/?mod=dive-into-mobile#slideshow-1-16

Some impressive stuff. That Motorola Tab looks fantastic.
The UI seems interesting, looks more desktop orientated (or just widgets with more details taking use of the extra space? Hard to see).
So much stuff announced in advance. Very refreshing.

Jyveafk said:
Some impressive stuff. That Motorola Tab looks fantastic.
The UI seems interesting, looks more desktop orientated (or just widgets with more details taking use of the extra space? Hard to see).
So much stuff announced in advance. Very refreshing.
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It was hard to see from the screenshots but Honeycomb looked dark and glow-y blue-ish, very Google TV like in some areas which I really, really wanted Gingerbread to be. So if Honeycomb is the true UI overhaul that we all hoped for, and it seems to be, thank god! Gingerbread looks like a Christmas tree floating in outer space -- 6 months of looking at that will be pretty harsh though.

[WHEN] WP7 & iPhone screen responsiveness for Android?

Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?

generalExpert said:
Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?
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Reason: HW/GPU acceleration.
When: Maybe/Probably Honeycomb.

I agree with you, I said the same thing. Man your battle station because fanboys are going to hit you hard.
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generalExpert said:
Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?
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Because Android's top priority isn't the perfect user experience. It's all about bringing ad money in from phone ads.

thetakara said:
Because Android's top priority isn't the perfect user experience. It's all about bringing ad money in from phone ads.
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Is this your opinion?...

Award Tour said:
Reason: HW/GPU acceleration.
When: Maybe/Probably Honeycomb.
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Is this (HW/GPU Acceleration) something that can only be accomplished by google, or can the devs here do it too?

generalExpert said:
Is this (HW/GPU Acceleration) something that can only be accomplished by google, or can the devs here do it too?
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Way to complicated for devs.
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generalExpert said:
Is this your opinion?...
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It's his opinion of course.
My opinion: Android was originally built to compete with BB OS (if you look at early photos of Android it was more BB OS like: track ball/pad dependent, crappy menu'ing system, etc.). iOS soon came out and became a success; Android was then forced to adapt to a new style. HW acceleration was probably not in their plans at first and even when it became an issue/important, they needed to adapt Android's core to compete with iOS and just be a touch friendly OS in general. Honeycomb seems to be the update that levels out the experience/Android as a more touch friendly, iOS aligned OS - HW acceleration, less HW button dependence, eliminating/minimizing the menu'ing system, etc.

Is honeycomb only for tablets? Why have I been reading on Engadget that honeycomb is only going to be for tablets?
I hope not...

generalExpert said:
Is honeycomb only for tablets? Why have I been reading on Engadget that honeycomb is only going to be for tablets?
I hope not...
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Its all speculation.
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generalExpert said:
Is honeycomb only for tablets? Why have I been reading on Engadget that honeycomb is only going to be for tablets?
I hope not...
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I don't think anyone has specifically said that Honeycomb is also for phones; I've only heard that what you see on Honeycomb is the direction that Android is heading for in the future which includes phones. So you'll probably see a lot of the features (the ones that are able to scale down to phones) like HW acceleration, UI tweaks, etc. on a future Android update. Rumor is that update is ice cream and is coming in the spring/summer.
A good sign of that is the new Sony Arc phone. There's been screen shots of it running 2.4 and one thing that stood out like crazy was the inclusion of a super wide screen display that seems to include in display software buttons for Home, back, etc. - just like in Honeycomb.

I was just wondering about this myself, here's the Issue on the AOSP project home.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Long story short, google thinks more powerful hardware will take care of the issue for it, and improved garbage collection will increase "smoothness." If you disagree post on that thread, I did

psych2l said:
I was just wondering about this myself, here's the Issue on the AOSP project home.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Long story short, google thinks more powerful hardware will take care of the issue for it, and improved garbage collection will increase "smoothness." If you disagree post on that thread, I did
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Its an incredibly stupid solution and will lead to more cpu usage for something that a weak gpu like the evo's could take care of at a lower cost.
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bitter much? do you post anything that isn't condescending or polarizing?
Award Tour said:
Its an incredibly stupid solution and will lead to more cpu usage for something that a weak gpu like the evo's could take care of at a lower cost.
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I think user is really important. I man my battleship daily and sometimes my finger misses. How does hdmi interact with user? I always have to wonder if it's due to touch or hdmi. My exp are better in cm7 than cm 6 but in video like utube I really see no difference if it is a question of quality. I think attention goes both to sound and video in usual use. So does it effect games?
If HDMI should be faster, it should be for its own reason. So, we will see it in games, in tv, and others (as we do).
Look at the the flip camera. Enlarge and you can see it should be built into the cm too.
You cannot see it with the naked eye in games. I say this because I have a very good eye. When you enlarge, you can see. But for games, they do not scale this way for seeing. Once we try to enjoy on a real scale the problem becomes apparent. I don't know the cause, it could be kernel; it could be hdmi. But with pictures and video hdmi is new standard. Old tvs might have been fine (better?) with out it but they changed it all now so we need hdmi for video and photo.
Evo is very small but for projection it is essential to top quality mobile presentation. It should be offloaded to the peripheral tho is that possible? There is no use in such fine detail in so small screen.

psych2l said:
I was just wondering about this myself, here's the Issue on the AOSP project home.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Long story short, google thinks more powerful hardware will take care of the issue for it, and improved garbage collection will increase "smoothness." If you disagree post on that thread, I did
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Well googles first post ( I didn't read all of it) says they cant implement it because older phones don't support it.... (g1)
Aha its funny to see everyone jump on google for how crappy it is not using gpu acceleration.

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Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?
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Too complicated for developers to tackle, but I agree 100%. Don't get me wrong, I would never use either of those platforms due to how much I love being on rooted android. But it is so much smoother, and I hope Gingerbread combats this.