have you seen the new ipod touch...
i like the way that thing can play game`s
http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/features/games.html
(whats the QuickTour)
can somone make somthing like that for the diamond that would be GREAT!!
any race game or somthing...
Have you genuinely posted an entire thread just to say "Can someone make some games or something because the iPhone has some stuff"? Seriously?
I really hope for your sake this is a troll attempt...
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Have you genuinely posted an entire thread just to say "Can someone make some games or something because the iPhone has some stuff"? Seriously?
I really hope for your sake this is a troll attempt...
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i think this guy means, why in the hell does aplle has such nice apps and for certain nice games for such a crappy phone.. And while our super Diamond doesn't have any cool games except the games from 20 years ago when our pc's were still working on the first windows edition.. I mean come on..
No effence on the people on this forum who are making such nice apps and games.. Cause you guys rock!! and make my diamond look more amazing!!
In that i must give apple a cheer, cause htc has developed a verry nice phone but a lack on software and games.. Cause why does my diamond has such good hardware but there's no software to play with it..
iphone the world talk about. That's why it going to get more games than htc diamond. htc diamond is more for insider for fan. I have iphone and htc diamond. I use most of the time htc diamond. But I think iphone is better. Just htc has win mobile. Which I can have more prog than iphone. but it will change.
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i think this guy means, why in the hell does aplle has such nice apps and for certain nice games for such a crappy phone.. And while our super Diamond doesn't have any cool games except the games from 20 years ago when our pc's were still working on the first windows edition.. I mean come on..
No effence on the people on this forum who are making such nice apps and games.. Cause you guys rock!! and make my diamond look more amazing!!
In that i must give apple a cheer, cause htc has developed a verry nice phone but a lack on software and games.. Cause why does my diamond has such good hardware but there's no software to play with it..
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Thank You
here is johnny said:
i think this guy means, why in the hell does aplle has such nice apps and for certain nice games for such a crappy phone.. And while our super Diamond doesn't have any cool games except the games from 20 years ago when our pc's were still working on the first windows edition.. I mean come on..
No effence on the people on this forum who are making such nice apps and games.. Cause you guys rock!! and make my diamond look more amazing!!
In that i must give apple a cheer, cause htc has developed a verry nice phone but a lack on software and games.. Cause why does my diamond has such good hardware but there's no software to play with it..
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*sigh* It's bad enough that tiesku's posted his nonsense, but it's worse that you're bizarrely willing to apologise for him without, apparently, even Googling for five minutes:
http://www.astraware.com/ppc/
http://www.handango.co.uk/SoftwareC...3274&topSectionId=3274&catalog=30&title=Games
All the games you could want, and that's just from the two online stores I happen to know about, there's undoubtedly a lot more out there.
I think people seem to forget (or don't know) that the Diamond is a Windows Mobile and doesn't need Diamond specific apps/games (apart from missing functions like g-sensor).
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*sigh* It's bad enough that tiesku's posted his nonsense, but it's worse that you're bizarrely willing to apologise for him without, apparently, even Googling for five minutes:
http://www.astraware.com/ppc/
http://www.handango.co.uk/SoftwareC...3274&topSectionId=3274&catalog=30&title=Games
All the games you could want, and that's just from the two online stores I happen to know about, there's undoubtedly a lot more out there.
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You've seen the games on the apple site and even dare to compare with the crap wich you even have to pay for, don't get me wrong if it is a good nice looking game okey, but this is rubbish.. i mean the diamond does have a graphics accelerator card though? Games on the apple site you can play them with g-sensor, steering gas brake that kind of stuff.. I have some games on my diamond to, but i mean why doesn't htc design some programs or games for their Diamond?? They could make a lot of money with that to.. thats what i'm saying.. developing a good machine, but leave it there.. no apps or games for the diamond..
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You've seen the games on the apple site and even dare to compare with the crap wich you even have to pay for
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Of course you have to pay! You need to pay for games from the Apple App Store as well!
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don't get me wrong if it is a good nice looking game okey, but this is rubbish
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What exactly is rubbish? I've linked you to two online stores full of games for Windows Mobile and you appear to have written every single one of them off as 'rubbish' in about five minutes. What are you actually talking about or even looking for here?
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i mean the diamond does have a graphics accelerator card though?
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And? Are you actually going to make some kind of valid point or just randomly type things?
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Games on the apple site you can play them with g-sensor, steering gas brake that kind of stuff.. I have some games on my diamond to, but i mean why doesn't htc design some programs or games for their Diamond??
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Because HTC are a hardware company, not a sodding software publisher that's why! They're not in the market of making games any more than Ford design tyres or sell paint.
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developing a good machine, but leave it there.. no apps or games for the diamond..
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No one has 'left it there', there are shedloads of games and applications all over the place for the Windows Mobile platform; indeed there's far, far more available than there is or probably ever will be for the iPhone.
I have a HTC Diamond and love it....but for games I use my PSP...
Come on you have to admit, Windows mobile games are pretty basic compared to....These Iphone screen shots
http://uk.wireless.ign.com/dor/obje...er-2009-20080910042453997.html?page=mediaFull
http://uk.wireless.ign.com/dor/obje...leashed-20080806115543442.html?page=mediaFull
http://uk.wireless.ign.com/dor/obje...ercover-20080909040554711.html?page=mediaFull
Medulla said:
*sigh* It's bad enough that tiesku's posted his nonsense, but it's worse that you're bizarrely willing to apologise for him without, apparently, even Googling for five minutes:
http://www.astraware.com/ppc/
http://www.handango.co.uk/SoftwareC...3274&topSectionId=3274&catalog=30&title=Games
All the games you could want, and that's just from the two online stores I happen to know about, there's undoubtedly a lot more out there.
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wohoooo.this games are so good...should we get some money for playing them?
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wohoooo.this games are so good...should we get some money for playing them?
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Irony...I love it!
Sorry but i would never pay for a WM Game. They are really crap. My girlfriend has the 2g iphone and i've got the diamond. I was rubbin it in her face that i was getting the best mobile phone(Diamond).I Was Wrong. But to be honest i'm really thinking of getting rid of it for the 3g iphone.
The games and apps on iphone are far superior. Graphics and gameplay! Plus there's loads.
No video calls on iphone. So what, video calling is probably the crappest invention. I don't know anybody that uses it.
Iphone has gps using Google maps which aint too bad.On the Diamond I have had a gps fix one and i've tried every Radio version. Could be where i live but iphone works here.
Diamond has a better screen resolution. GREAT! No not really. Crap how small is the screen. Besides the iphone looks miles better quality.
Don't get me wrong i love both phones. I'm not a h8r.
Just stating the facts.
One more thing.
If the Diamond was as stable as the iphone. People wouldn't have to spend all there time cooking roms instead of using there time to make Brilliant games.
Thanks for reading just wanted to have my say. Plz don't think i'm starting an arguement
You're entitled to your opinion doinbox and I respect that, but having tried both the iPhone 3G and HTC TD I'm sticking with the TD. It can do so much more than the iPhone. Here's just a few of its advantages, IMHO
Sync with my office documents,
Picture messaging
Video
Cut and paste
Swappable battery
Bluetooth stereo music (A2DP)
Has a higher, sharper screen res, which helps me big style.
A better camera
Physically it's also noticebaly smaller and fits easily in my jeans pocket,
the iPhone is quite big by comparison.
If I just wanted to play the arcadey style games on an iPhone I'd buy a PSP instead.
Blah blah blah.. iPhone vs Diamond again.. But you all are right. We need better games for our Diamond
Iphone
Hi there,
I don't see the issue of the initial poster here. There are far more games/apps (and by god better ones) available for Windows mobile and there always will be.
The IPhone is a peace of crap in a nice jacket and with s*** loads of PR thats wy it's popular but it doesn't make it less crappy. They make you pay for every little thing and in the end they will make you pay even more. If you want that then thats fine, i don't.
doinbox:
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The games and apps on iphone are far superior. Graphics and gameplay! Plus there's loads
I hate to bring this to you because this is a straight out lie.
People make Roms because they like to fiddle around with OS stuff and to twink the hell out of it for fun, they don't do this because the Diamond would need it, a 1.93 stock rom runs perfectly stable and fast.
It is time for you to wake up and get ur facts strait. The Touch Diamond beats the Iphone in every way possible (hardware/software).
Just the fact that we lucky bastards can even change our own OS makes the Diamond superior over the IPhone in my book.
Greetz
Caved
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a 1.93 stock rom runs perfectly stable and fast.
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That made me laugh.
I'm Quite sure the biggest htc diamond fan in the world would admit its not perfectly stable and fast.
Didn't You read my post properly. I own a Diamond so i know from my own use its not stable. Funnily enough i just had it replaced today because it kept crashing on me. Even with l8st firmware.
I like the Diamond but i have paid for games and apps and none of them are better graphics than iphone games such as monkeyball or crash bandicoot kart or the fish app the water looks so real when you touch it. You post a link here to an app/game with graphics that good that would run on diamond and i'll hold my hands up and say i'm wrong. But i've seen and tried every game on wm6 and i know i wont be seeing a link from you.
Stop being so defensive over the Diamond everyone knows its full of problems. Well maybe not on the Hardware side, but WM6.1 is Terrible and nobody can deny that.
doinbox
I won't go into a flamewar with you, if you like IPhone thats fine with me. I love my Diamond and i think its way better then the Iphone maybe the right software for it is getting there a bit slow, so what ....
greetz
Caved
guys, guys, what's the point arguing?
we all know there are people who adore iphone and there are people who wouldn't trade their touch xy for the world. these two phones are simply aiming each at a little different clientele, and let's leave it at that. otherwise it's just an ideological discussion...
as for the games, the thing about the wm games is that there are thousands of them, some better, some worse, but because (naturally) the majority of them has been developed for the wm 5 or even 2002/2003 editions, they're simpler than the new ones, with simpler graphics, worse resolution etc. and all iphone games are developed to utilize the iphone fully.
so just look for the newer wm6 / diamond games and stop complaining about the old games being crap. and remember, games are developed for wm platform, meaning also for weaker devices, not only for our diamonds
personally i know of multiple cool games for the wm6, e.g. teeter, ccsnake, worms world party, tennis addict, open transport tycoon deluxe, resco bubbles, bubble snooker, pocket bowling, etc...
doinbox, yphone has better apps & Games? Really, where? GPS is using google maps? Yep and that thing is actually completely useless compared to Tom Tom, iGO e.t.c. I wonder why apple included GPS in the first place.
Apps? There are none. And with the power of pocket informant, One Note Mobile, Word e.t.c WM beats iphone hands down.
As a phone WM platform is much more convinient. It takes less keystrokes and time to call somebody or send SMS|MMS\E-Mail.
The only thing where iPhone really shines is the web. Big screen+Safari is a perfect solution. Diamond and Opera don't even stand close.I don't thing even Touch HD will help. But unforunatly there is no stable ICQ client for iphone, yet.
So the only thing left out - games. But if u open your eyes and look around you will find enough high quality games for WM which use 3d accelerator. Just an example http://www.clickgamer.com/products/pid_5660/screenshots/ppc/large/ss2.gif
Anyway stop whining here and get an iphone
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The Diamond is clearly a superior product to the Iphone (with the exception of the Iphone having more screen real estate). Everytime I turn around, my Iphone-toting colleagues have downloaded a new game from the App Store that uses the accelerometer (g-sensor), and they're really nice games with really nice graphics! I have to pretend not to be jealous of the selection they have at their disposal.
So with all the talent and dedicated WinMo people here, why do you guys think there are only 10+ games for the Diamond? Do you think the revenue that can be made through the Apple App Store is driving higher production for games? Maybe the Iphone is more of a "toy" to some folks and the Diamond is more of an enterprise tool? (Mine is both a toy AND an office tool!)
I love my Diamond... just wish there were some more cool games (like Super Monkey Ball ) that I could get for it!
And yes, if I had one shred of coding skill to my name, I'd start doing it myself... but I don't. The apps that have come out so far though for the Diamond are awesome. Keep 'em coming guys!
I think there are a few things.
1) More iPhones sold - Must be around 10 million vs only maybe 2.5 million Diamonds.
2) The iPhone actually officially supports the G-Sensor, vs the Diamond's API not being officially released.
3) More excitement around the iPhone as a toy.
However, I am in contact with Winplay, and they have said:
Hi ************
Yes, we are working on several games that will take advantage of the accelerometers in devices such as the HTC Touch Diamond… Lots of cool stuff coming out shortly…
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Yeah, what they said.
Plus, they had that open SDK project going for sometime before it was actually released and developers were smart enough to know, that anything Steve Jobs is excited about, will sale like hotcakes, thus the opportunity for ton's of money.
That's great news! Thanks!
Marketing. Lots and lots of marketing.
I have the diamond and my husband has the iphone. My very gadgety 6-year-old son loved the diamond when he first saw the teeter game. But then the iphone was brought home and even my not-so-keen 4-year-old daughter kept saying she wanted to play "cowabunga" (a very colorful free game from iphone). My son of course was hooked on the car racing game that we downloaded. So far, he just said once that the wallpaper on my diamond was pretty and he didn't play teeter anymore (probably it's not as colorful ).
So conclusion, iphone is much more like a toy than the diamond.
BTW, a side issue. I noticed that iphone's power management is superb compared to diamond. Iphone can last over 2 days with wifi and bluetooth on ALL THE TIME and some games and moderate use. I can't keep my wifi on for my diamond for more than 2 hours.... as I know it can't even last for half day if I do so. And yes, bluetooth on iphone is only an icon on the screen without any use. I kept it on just to show to my husband that it's useless. It's undiscoverable, unpairable..... even its very dear brother Mac book can't make any use with it.
Yes, don't worry. I am still in love with my diamond.
If you want to win your kid over, here are a small collection of games on the diamond he may be interested in.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=accelerometer-game
Surur
surur said:
If you want to win your kid over, here are a small collection of games on the diamond he may be interested in.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=accelerometer-game
Surur
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I still believe that diamond is a more powerful device but with respect to games.... I have to admit that diamond can't win over my kids. I am a bit embarrassed to show the kids those diamond "games", when they can touch and scare the fish in "Koi Pond", or having silly fun with bouncing and falling cows that moo, or driving BMW or Mercedez like crazy in LA street... Yeah yeah, I know unbelievable, but you have to see to admit (go to youtube and take a look at "Koi Pond", "Cowabunga", "Asphalt 4").
Asphalt 4 for is available for Windows mobile too, so it should work on your diamond?
it is not only the Gsen - but for sure screen size and how you "hold" the phones.
I will never ever buy aniPhone, but I do believe it is easier to play Gsen games on it. Kids +6 can not be fooled
no wonder why, have you checked the beer apps on the diamond? I dont mean to offence anyone but its like running at 2fps. And compared to the iphone its [email protected]
Etc....
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Asphalt 4 for is available for Windows mobile too, so it should work on your diamond?
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Asphalt 4 doesn't support VGA screens unfortunately.
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no wonder why, have you checked the beer apps on the diamond? I dont mean to offence anyone but its like running at 2fps. And compared to the iphone its [email protected]
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I agree completely. Wish it looked more realistic like the Iphone one. But then again, it's not a make-or-break app for me.
If you really like games ! use a psp or nintendo ds. I also have an iphone and
the diamond . Playing games on the iphone is pain in the ass
hi
Keep in mind also the Diamond is relatively new compared iSuck phones, the diamond just hit the US market a few weeks now so its like the word hasent gotten arround to dev about the Diamond as yet, which would relate to what ppl say about marketing, htc hasent really put the diamond in the US yet.
Also imo the iphone is eye candy and that all it will ever be, the diamond on the other hand is all round mostly for seriouse customers for business and what not.
Is this thread really going on???
What the hell is this?
I demand CLOSE.
Its so out of the element.
We all know the ifhone sucks ballzzzz.
And its not only the "functions" of the phone.
We are talking about you being represented by the kindo phone you choose.
I'm terribly sorry to say this but....
I dont like people that choose a fagphone as a first phone and actually go ahead and show it of!
-When ever a nerd shows of his fruitphne in y presence I just think "ya dude you and another billion of sheeps got the same no big deal"
On the other hand we as Diamond users took the dip because we rather have "bugs" (which I dont because WinMob works like a swiss watch) than fall in the pleasing of the crowds as rotten fruit likes!
Remember Felllassss Second best they are!
Sorry if i pizzz of some people but some one has to do it!
Greetings to all.
PS:Forgot:
1. I rather have less "estate" but a VGA screen. Not a dirty 320 by 480 or what ever it has.
2. What ever your "mates" downloaded from a insanely proprietary site has a high chance of being payed for.(obviosly not Jewels case) I like to call it open source.
3. The Diamond is been out for less than year. The ugly fruit is on its "second" gen (same crap).
4.I run a buissness on my own and manage t do a lot through the Diamond and WinMobs awsome connection capabilitys. (those fruitys cant even FTP Bluetooth!)
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Is this thread really going on???
What the hell is this?
I demand CLOSE.
Its so out of the element.
We all know the ifhone sucks ballzzzz.
And its not only the "functions" of the phone.
We are talking about you being represented by the kindo phone you choose.
I'm terribly sorry to say this but....
I dont like people that choose a fagphone as a first phone and actually go ahead and show it of!
-When ever a nerd shows of his fruitphne in y presence I just think "ya dude you and another billion of sheeps got the same no big deal"
On the other hand we as Diamond users took the dip because we rather have "bugs" (which I dont because WinMob works like a swiss watch) than fall in the pleasing of the crowds as rotten fruit likes!
Remember Felllassss Second best they are!
Greetings to all.
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I'll put this in my own words middle of night and i cant get techinal.. "Apple = for beginners, Windows = Advanced users who like to have things run the way they want it too, when apple runs things their way, and u r stuck with it." >.>
the iphone has been out for more then a year now with an SDK package for developers, plus a lot of marketing. The diamond is still a baby, and also not even released in US in full potential. With MS building a app repository service and the diamond + touch pro getting more user base, I have the very confidence that we'll be seeing a lot of applications utilizing the G sensor in either utilities or gaming. I mean the things that marvels us already are the g sensor alarm clocks, locking mechinisms and the full ability to use gsen to redraw the screen in any orientation, something the iphone cannot do.
All I can say is give it time, with now the hardware standards rising for windows mobile, you can totally bet that there's going to be pleanty of applications out there utilizing the new technology.
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I have the diamond and my husband has the iphone. My very gadgety 6-year-old son loved the diamond when he first saw the teeter game. But then the iphone was brought home and even my not-so-keen 4-year-old daughter kept saying she wanted to play "cowabunga" (a very colorful free game from iphone). My son of course was hooked on the car racing game that we downloaded. So far, he just said once that the wallpaper on my diamond was pretty and he didn't play teeter anymore (probably it's not as colorful ).
So conclusion, iphone is much more like a toy than the diamond.
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bbju,
don't forget the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys
I hate it when people say the Diamond is for the business user. I don't use it for business i bought the phone coz it looked good and had some cool features.
What is everyones problem. As soon as somebody requests a game or app that the iphone has you all cry like babies saying fuk your gayphone and all that ****. I'm starting to get worried coz the "Gayphone" has games in nearly every category so looks like we're not gonna get left with many.
hi everyone,
I'm a Die Hard fan of Blackstone/Touch HD , and im waiting for it for a long time !
but after reading about it, watching movies, following discussions, I feel its nothing but a HUGE and tempting display .
we're all WM users and we didnt experienced any large-display phones with such size, and thats why we're trying to believe this is BEST !
since theres no TV-OUT capability , hard one handed usage , no D-PAD ( C'mon , its not iphone that fingers could do anything with any pressure ) and weird camera lens box!
is it really we wanted or its just another "I WANT TO BELIEVE?"
I do see where you're coming from... To me, I'll be honest, it's the Diamond in a REALLY nice case. One that's familiar to a long-term Elf user. The touchy-feely case, no desire to use the D-Pad... But when all's said and done: It's a huge display and has a 5MP camera. It's the best ever HTC, but it will be easy to top...
Now I feel bad... Thanks...
Hi,
Interesting point of view. ... and I agree most of it.
To be honest, the only thing I am interested in Touch HD is the huge 3.8" screen.
I like browsing the internet using Opera Mini (and Opera 9 of course) and I have no problem with my current HTC Kaiser.
However, I always envy with phone that has big screen, 3.5" like my friend's iPhone.
So, thats my sole reason to think about buying Touch HD.
However, I am holding back because there are couple of things that I need to convince myself:
1. TouchFlo 3D cannot show multiple appointments/tasks in its today screen.
This is rubish, I cannot understand why HTC does not implement this like the old HTC Home. And I have not found better solution for this.
Of course I can turn off TF3D (can I?) and use HTC Home or SpB Mobile Shell.
But ................ why???
2. No DPAD, can I live with it? Probably ...
But I have a dream to have a GAME DEVICE and PDA all in one.
I cannot do that with HTC Kaiser because of the graphics driver and bad performance. Really, I hate it.
3.8" is very nice for a game device. However, without DPAD, the game will be limited.
If I look the current Touch HD design, a DPAD is still possible in the center of those 4 buttons!
I know, I can buy Nintendo DS or PSP, but hey! I dont like carrying a lot of devices
5 MP camera is nothing ... the quality is still doubtful.
No TV-OUT like Raphael? Grrr!!!
Well, this is my personal opinion.
I dont know, probably I will buy it anyway ... or wait until I can hold and see it in real live ... and judge if the 3.8" screen is enough to convince myself to buy.
upcomming phones have almost same display size ( like ASUS Galaxy 7 ) and solved problems ...
but i want it from HTC .
I think it's yet another half-a***d swipe at the iPhone, without any real thought put into it. WM fans want to believe this is "the one" that's going to give them everything they (perhaps secretly) really like about the iPhone, while still wearing the Windows Mobile badge. In reality, it's just another WM phone with a bigger screen, and actually a few disadvantages over some other models (like that lack of a D-pad). In spite of the screen I really doubt the multimedia will be as slick as the iPhone, and for gaming it's a dead duck - unlike the iPhone where the appstore is brimming full of immersive games built around the iPhone's acceleromotor and multi-touch screen, the Touch HD only has the WM back catalogue to choose from, 99% of which will be written to run on non-accelerometor equipped phones with D-pads.
Meanwhile, underneath the Touchflo you still have an interface designed for a stylus, however big the display.
gogol said:
....1. TouchFlo 3D cannot show multiple appointments/tasks in its today screen.....
This is rubish, I cannot understand why HTC does not implement this like the old HTC Home. And I have not found better solution for this.
Of course I can turn off TF3D (can I?) and use HTC Home or SpB Mobile Shell.
But ................ why???
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Get your act together HTC
I still cannot decide which model to choose - X1 or HD - and now I am thinking more and more of getting an X1. I simply understand that the only thing about HD that I am going to really love and cream-my-pants because of is the 3.8" screen.
I think that HD is a perfect device for non-WM-addicts, for people who will use just TF3D-interface and Opera at most, without installing any tweaks/programs/registry-hacks/emulators/debuggers/consoles/younameit. Cause when you want to install one of them, you're in trouble - no hardware keys, no D-pad... Achtung!
One more thing I thought about.. Every phone has a kind of a "secret combination of keys", e g "turn-on-the-phone-holding-two-buttons-pressed-and-enter-diagnostics-mode". I wonder if the sensor buttons would do that?
If I am going to express my opinion I will rather say I am going for the large screen size to be honest, Window mobile did not change since, its still WM 6.1 and not much difference on software, yes is the look of the phone that impress me and the size of the screen, because I personally enjoy watching movies on move.
How can HTC put such a cheap, crappy-looking clock onto such a "high-end" device?
The analogue clock from the TF2D (as per the Touch 3G) just looks so much better.
I also agree with the comments about the Appointments - this is a very important point for me, and if not easily resolvable will make me look eleswhere.
So do I remove the TF3D and use Spb instead? If I were to do that, would I then lose the scrollability of the unit - is the finger-scrolling part of TF3D or part of WM6.1?
From a non techie user point-of-view, the more I am finding out about this, the less excited I am about it. Having just read through the manual, I realise it doesn't do any more than any other WM 6.1 pda, except for the bigger screen. And even the quality of films on that seems to be in question!
Maybe I should stop reading sites such as this - lol.
Look we all love the design factor, large screen, hi res etc. That makes it the best win mo phone. Don't let these posts turn you off. You fell in love with the phone for a reason. As for the minor problems (2 appointments etc), well... where there's a will there's a way... xda-developers. Just give them time to work their magic.
Anyway there is always Second Today to see appointents http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MYv5ooIp0
Nothing...........
I just Ordered mine from pdashop.nl 1 minute ago... And i don't need any negation right now. for 629 Euro. ....It better impress
Nothing is gonna take that joy from me..
You can fall in love with a phone for the wrong reasons! I really do think expectations are too high for this device, and people are right to question and rethink this now, before they've paid their money... IMO it's a flawed design, WinMo needs some kind of d-pad, it's not finger friendly enough even on this size screen to get by without it. If losing the hardware controls is a necessity of that larger screen, then they need to replace the UI completely, and use some other OS.
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Are you guys serious?
Let's see the complaints that make this device "just another WM phone."
1. TV-OUT Capability
Why do I need this? WHEN will I need this? If I am at home, I will use my laptop to connect my HDTV via HDMI. Using a phone at home for it's TV-Out capability is well, useless. If you can afford this device, and are tech-savvy enough to know about it, then odds are you have an HDMI capable computer and TV.
The ONLY scenario where I could see this feature be useful is if I wanted to output video on a random TV, maybe at a bar:
"Hey bartender, hook up my HTC TOUCH HD to the TV please."
LOL
Come on!
2. Hard one handed usage? This coming from people who love QWERTY keyboards. I find this hilarious. What's so hard about it? Move your thumb around and you're good to go.
3. OMG! Weird camera lens box!! WTF is weird about it? Now, if you want to tell me no flash, alright I can agree with that. But to nag about the camera lens box? I think it looks good. I mean, I honestly don't care what it looks like as long as it's not pink with rainbows.
What are some other complaints?
No directional pad. Well, you have a 3.8in TOUCH screen and you want a d-pad? Is this a joke? If you want a d-pad, don't buy a TOUCH screen.
No games. Who plays games on their phone? Seriously. If you want to play games, go and buy a PSP or DS.
Home screen only shows a couple of appointments. This is a SLIGHT issue, but something tells me it will be fixed in no time by the heads roaming these forums.
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Now, let's compare these issues with the iPhone, since there were about 101 insinuations that we are desperate WM fan boys.
No TV-out:
iPhone doesn't have TV out either. OOOOOOOO.
Weird camera lens box:
iPhone has a useless 2megapixel camera without recording or focus features.
One handed usage:
Anyone notice that you have to slide SIDEWAYS just to unlock the iPhone? Explain to me how you are going to do that with ONE hand. At least HTC had the foresight to allow you to use the phone primarily with your thumb with up and down gestures.
The HTC Touch HD is NOT like any other WM phone or ANY phone for that matter. It's sensitivity is far superior, beautiful screen, FAST, and can do anything you can throw at it besides useless things such as outputting video at a bar.
Oh, and please don't get me started on the lack of iPhone features. How about the ability to CUT and PASTE? Want to talk to me about the iPhone marketplace? There are programmers all over the net with custom programs for WM that allows us to do basically ANYTHING, even emulate the iPhone.
Give me a break. This is a GREAT device and as far as I can tell, the only thing missing is flash.
And if you want to really be douche about it, most phones nowadays have a phone, video/music player, and a camera! So I guess we should all just get ourselves a Nokia 7610 and cluck.
So, could I use Second Today to run something like the Spb Today screen (because I am used to and love its flexible Appointments display), or am I mixing up technologies?
And just how safe /easy is it for a non-techie to install Second Today, and to change the button functions (and does this require a registry change, because now I'm starting to talk a new language?)
And, whilst I'm in a writing mood, the other issues raised were video playback quality, and suspected lag in GPS navigation.
Can anyone confirm the current situation with these. Is the playback quality acceptable without dropped frames, and has it been absolutely confirmed by a real test that there is no GPS lag?
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I think it's yet another half-a***d swipe at the iPhone, without any real thought put into it. WM fans want to believe this is "the one" that's going to give them everything they (perhaps secretly) really like about the iPhone, while still wearing the Windows Mobile badge. In reality, it's just another WM phone with a bigger screen, and actually a few disadvantages over some other models (like that lack of a D-pad). In spite of the screen I really doubt the multimedia will be as slick as the iPhone, and for gaming it's a dead duck - unlike the iPhone where the appstore is brimming full of immersive games built around the iPhone's acceleromotor and multi-touch screen, the Touch HD only has the WM back catalogue to choose from, 99% of which will be written to run on non-accelerometor equipped phones with D-pads.
Meanwhile, underneath the Touchflo you still have an interface designed for a stylus, however big the display.
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haha opinions from Apple Fan Boys dont count. All opinions on gaming (based on nothing), no dpad (which i love), Poor multimedia (not from the videos ive seen), App store stinks because hacked apps for iphone way better and FREE,
I owned an Iphone for a month and couldnt get rid of it fast enough because WM offers so much more functionality for business and "hackability"
dont get wrong ! iphone is NO WAY competitor, its just a fancy phone! not more not less !
im going to buy this beast, but i really want to know is this really a big deal ?
i dont think so !
but we all know the form factor and the screen size is undeniable ! thats why im going for HD .
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1. TV-OUT Capability
Why do I need this?
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When you are on holiday? At the hotel, in a country where you dont understand local language ... you end up with CNN
So, TV-Out is nice to have! Hook it up to the hotel TV and play movie from your PDA.
Why some users complained about this TV-Out? Because the "previous" device has that, HTC Raphael. Why dont they include it in the next iteration?
Of course, probably there are some other reasons, like PRICE etc. But I see this TV-Out as a valid point.
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2. Hard one handed usage? This coming from people who love QWERTY keyboards. I find this hilarious. What's so hard about it? Move your thumb around and you're good to go.
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Not always like that. The OS (WinMo 6.1) is not specifically designed for touch screen only.
People like me, prefer to use DPAD to move around the UI, much faster, efficient and less-thumb-hurt
You may disagree, but thats you!
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No games. Who plays games on their phone? Seriously. If you want to play games, go and buy a PSP or DS.
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Woohoo ... Gaming is also part of the mobile world.
If you dont play game in your PDA, then (again) it's your choice.
You should not dictate that, because the mobile gaming market is THERE.
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Want to talk to me about the iPhone marketplace? There are programmers all over the net with custom programs for WM that allows us to do basically ANYTHING, even emulate the iPhone.
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Righty ... Please dont compare iPhone apps with WinMo apps
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Give me a break. This is a GREAT device and as far as I can tell, the only thing missing is flash.
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Yes, it is a great device. But how great is this? Depends ...
manuelcalavera said:
dont get wrong ! iphone is NO WAY competitor, its just a fancy phone! not more not less !
im going to buy this beast, but i really want to know is this really a big deal ?
i dont think so !
but we all know the form factor and the screen size is undeniable ! thats why im going for HD .
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and my apologies for not answer the question lol. Is it a big deal, nah, not when you look at all the other technology worldwide as a whole. Its nice but there is really no "phone" that is a big deal in my humble opinion.
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Now, let's compare these issues with the iPhone, since there were about 101 insinuations that we are desperate WM fan boys.
No TV-out:
iPhone doesn't have TV out either. OOOOOOOO.
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Actually yes, it does. Bad start.
Weird camera lens box:
iPhone has a useless 2megapixel camera without recording or focus features.
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Absolutely. For the record, I have no idea why anyone's complaining about the "weird camera lens box" on the HD. It's just a lens.
The iPhone's camera is just a camera, and makes no pretence to be anything more - if you want a better camera, buy one (or a different phone).
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Anyone notice that you have to slide SIDEWAYS just to unlock the iPhone? Explain to me how you are going to do that with ONE hand.
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Easily and quickly about a million times a day. Seriously, you're just demonstrating you've never been near one, and are desperately trying to think up things which might be wrong with it, on the strength of a few screenshots you've seen. The "slide to unlock/answer" is an excellent feature that's completely natural to use one handed - it works so well that even HTC have tried to imitate it with a similar "slide to answer" feature on the, ahem, Touch HD.
At least HTC had the foresight to allow you to use the phone primarily with your thumb with up and down gestures.
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You mean TouchFlo scrolling? The first feature that HTC copied from the iPhone, last year? Ah yes, such foresight!
The HTC Touch HD is NOT like any other WM phone or ANY phone for that matter. It's sensitivity is far superior, beautiful screen, FAST, and can do anything you can throw at it besides useless things such as outputting video at a bar.
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Wake up and smell yesterday's coffee. It's like like every other WM phone, runs the same software as every other WM phone, it even has the same processor and internal spec as most other current WM phones. The screen is new, as is the inconvenient lack of d-pad - everything else is the same old same old.
Oh, and please don't get me started on the lack of iPhone features. How about the ability to CUT and PASTE?
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Oh, yeah, it doesn't do that. You knew about that? I thought it was a secret?
Want to talk to me about the iPhone marketplace?
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Not really, but I'll tell about the Appstore - bloody brilliant. Thousands of quality apps, many of them free, all the paid ones generally much, much cheaper than their WinMo equivalents, and all there to be browsed and downloaded right on the device, updates alerted and downloaded in the same way.. yep, it's a fantastic system. Is that what you wanted to know?
There are programmers all over the net with custom programs for WM that allows us to do basically ANYTHING, even emulate the iPhone.
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Now why would you want to emulate a rubbish old iPhone?
For the record, I used a Tytn II for the past year, I've never owned a Mac, and I've never been a "fanboy" of any damn thing, but if you think the iPhone's a soft target for a bit of WinMo frustration, you're mistaken.
A key feature that I'm hoping the HD2 does well is emulation. Running morphgear on my Touch HD worked alright. You couldn't really get audio to sync or work right and framerate wasn't that great either. Now with the HD2 you got multitouch support and better hardware, so it should be an awesome experience. Has anybody tried running any emulation apps on the HD2 yet?
Also the TG01 plays PSX games flawlessly check out these links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9qAB7ADB4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR2e1Mep2b0
Anybody test this out on the HD2?
I dream of being able to play PSP games on the HD2
FpSECE should run like a charm on this monster (also without any bluetooth gamepad due the enourmous screen size). I think there are going to be alot of capacitive-scree-like-games for windows mobile now also. Pfff can.t wait to get my hands on this baby )
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FpSECE should run like a charm on this monster (also without any bluetooth gamepad due the enourmous screen size). I think there are going to be alot of capacitive-scree-like-games for windows mobile now also. Pfff can.t wait to get my hands on this baby )
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If you think that most of developers are going to make capacitive-like-games for windows mobile when only one device support it instead of putting their efforts on games for the iphone and android, you are going crazy.
^^ Second that! Don't keep your hopes up for any Multitouch based games for atleast another year.
Windows Mobile 7 might change that. But till then, its no use dreaming
I remember when xtract (or whatever it was called was released), this was such a fantastic game and showed what could be possible on the WM platform.
sadly, the popularity of the iphone means that most developers are working on apps for that phone instead. The main reason behind this is that every developer knows almost exactly what he will have to work with on an iphone. With WM there are too many variations of screen resolution to consider, memory restrictions etc
in addition, the relatively high cost of apps on WM (compared to the thousands of 0.59p for iphone)means that they don't sell quite so many and the demand isn't there.
it's sad, but this is perhaps the reason that WM is dying as a platform.
I saw an article the other day that said that itunes had hit the 100,000 mark for apps. I think that's an increase of about 25,000 apps in a single year. WM cannot even get close to that figure..
Well, out of those 100,000 apps 99,900 are useless fart apps and such, not the kind of games we are talking about here. App Store allows you to sell whatever you want and since there's no return policy you can have people paying for your app, no matter if it is good or not.
This is not to say there are no great games for the iPhone of course! Yet the mere number of apps there isn't really an indicator of quality.
you're right ( I question your accuracy though )
but the point is, that people are spending time creating 'useless' apps for the iphone....very few people are creating anything for WM
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it's sad, but this is perhaps the reason that WM is dying as a platform.
I saw an article the other day that said that itunes had hit the 100,000 mark for apps. I think that's an increase of about 25,000 apps in a single year. WM cannot even get close to that figure..
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I think we do need to make some difference between a big number, and quality programs... How many programs are not just total useless "fart" and other idiotic crap programs.
Its easy to claim that they have 100.000 programs, when most are close to useless.
SnooPPP:
You forgot to post a more recent one. This one showes the touchscreen in action on the TG01, with the overlay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHCQiT6e54
Its actually kinda playable just using a Single Touch Resistive screen.
A quick look at the forum of the FpseCE emulator shows that people are interested in the HD2.
People here question if its useful for developers to create games for a single platform. But, the specs for WM7 are know. They know that every device in the future will have at minimum, the same specs as the HTC HD2, to be compatible with the WM7 OS. So, for many developers the HTC HD2 will probable be a nice development / testing platform for the future.
Also, when looking at the PSX emulator, that now on a Snapdragon can play about every PSX game... This is a game library of? How many hundred games? Including hits like FF7, etc ...
What about the N64 emulator that they are porting for the openPandora project, on a TI OMAP 3430? When the source is released and recompiled for WM, you can expect to also that game library...
This is what im really excited about, FpSECE on the HD2 will be amazing, it just needs either multitouch support or we need a controller we can use with the HD2.
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but the point is, that people are spending time creating 'useless' apps for the iphone....very few people are creating anything for WM
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Well, why wouldn't they spend time? If you put a fart app in App Store, chances are, somebody will pay for it by mistake, and won't be able to claim money back.
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This is what im really excited about, FpSECE on the HD2 will be amazing, it just needs either multitouch support or we need a controller we can use with the HD2.
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In fpsece 0.1 there are overlays so no need for a controller(and it supports multitouch if I recall correctly).
Meh, regarding an entertainment perspective, I never really understood why games should be on phones. Sure the usual, patience or bubble breaker is nice, but if you really want to play games, I suggest getting an xbox360 or ps3, it's what I use mine for anyway.
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Meh, regarding an entertainment perspective, I never really understood why games should be on phones. Sure the usual, patience or bubble breaker is nice, but if you really want to play games, I suggest getting an xbox360 or ps3, it's what I use mine for anyway.
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You don't travel much, do you?
PSP then?
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PSP then?
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Carrying around two devices is just too inconvenient.
Could the HD2 even handle PSP Game's graphics??
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Carrying around two devices is just too inconvenient.
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Meh, when I travel, I don't mind carrying another device with me. Playing games on your phone only drains the battery even more, leaving less juice to make business calls.
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Meh, when I travel, I don't mind carrying another device with me.
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That's a bit like arguing that there's no point in putting a camera into a phone because, when you travel, you don't mind taking a camera with you. That may be true as far as it goes; but having a camera in your phone becomes useful in situations where you didn't know in advance that you were going to need a camera and then suddenly realise that you do - conveniently, you just happen to have one with you because it's built into a device that you automatically carry with you at all times. The same applies to gaming on a phone: it's useful in situations where you didn't know in advance that you were going to want a gaming device.
You also have to ask: even if you are willing to pack a separate portable console, are you willing to pack a portable games console, a phone, an MP3 player, a mobile web browsing device, a mobile email terminal, a dedicated satnav device, and a portable video player? That's quite a lot to fit in your trouser pockets. There's a lot to be said for combining multiple devices into the same box.
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are you willing to pack a portable games console, a phone, an MP3 player, a mobile web browsing device, a mobile email terminal, a dedicated satnav device, and a portable video player? That's quite a lot to fit in your trouser pockets.
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You forgot to mention all the chargers too
It's not like chargers take that much space... it's just one small bag. Besides, nowadays there are these universal extensions and what not if I'm correct if you really mind taking multiple chargers with you. Furthermore, if you have one device which you use for everything, you're gonna need to charge it more often, while this is not the case when using multiple devices, just to make clear that having an all-in-one device is not as heavenly as it might seem (or you're gonna have to take ALL those multiple batteries with you ).
Also, comparing taking a picture and gaming with and on a phone is not entirely just, because when one wants to game, he/she has to sit down and put time into gaming, while taking a snapshot is almost instant. What I'm trying to say is that when someone is playing a full blown 3D game (which is what is actually discussed here instead of patience, minesweeper or whatever), that person wants to put in time to focus on the game. In this case it's much better to use a dedicated device and not some emulator on a phone to play ps1 games while draining your battery life. And yes, if someone wants to take beautiful high resolution pictures, that person will take a quality camera with him/her.
Eventually it all comes down to preference I guess...
I recently bought a HD2 and I think I have made a great mistake. I fell for the "capacitive screen" hype and bought this device. I found I cannot click the links on a website without zooming in. I cannot play Warfare Incorporated. I cannot use VNC. This is very annoying, coming from a resistive device. The device is practically useless to me know. I know of two capacitive styluses : the Dagi and the Pogo. Neither of them work properly with VNC and small icons on Opera without zooming in. What can I do ?
alunalub said:
I recently bought a HD2 and I think I have made a great mistake. I fell for the "capacitive screen" hype and bought this device. I found I cannot click the links on a website without zooming in. I cannot play Warfare Incorporated. I cannot use VNC. This is very annoying, coming from a resistive device. The device is practically useless to me know. I know of two capacitive styluses : the Dagi and the Pogo. Neither of them work properly with VNC and small icons on Opera without zooming in. What can I do ?
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Check out point 35
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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Check out point 35
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Please try search before posting
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Thanks for that but can I use VNC on it ? Warfare Incorporated ? Not even talking about my fav. application on Windows Mobile = Age of Empires Gold Edition that does not work because of WVGA. Can I copy the HTC magnetic capacitive stylus somehow to get a better stylus than the Dagi as HTC do not sell it yet ?
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Thanks for that but can I use VNC on it ? Warfare Incorporated ? Not even talking about my fav. application on Windows Mobile = Age of Empires Gold Edition that does not work because of WVGA. Can I copy the HTC magnetic capacitive stylus somehow to get a better stylus than the Dagi as HTC do not sell it yet ?
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Then I suggest you return the HD2 and go for a TP2 or HD. If these things are important to you, a capacitive screen will not please you.
Unfortunately I cannot return it now. I love the fact that it can play FPSECE perfectly and I love how you don't have to press hard on the display but IMHO the benefits are smaller than the bad things. I should have probably gone with the N900, even if it is really slow and old-tech compared to the HD2. Any other options ?
once bought, either u learn to love it or hate it
lift still goes on
dun whin about it
If not happy, just switch to other phone that is resistive lcd
complaint and complaint are useless, HTC will not change HD2 to resistive lcd if u complaint
It also wont just change to resistive lcd overnite if u complaint hard enough
There is not cannot return now....
u sell it away and get your other phone
just a matter of do you want or not.
Juz 2cent thot, esp when i see ppl whin and whin whereby you always have a choice
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Thanks for that but can I use VNC on it ? Warfare Incorporated ? Not even talking about my fav. application on Windows Mobile = Age of Empires Gold Edition that does not work because of WVGA. Can I copy the HTC magnetic capacitive stylus somehow to get a better stylus than the Dagi as HTC do not sell it yet ?
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I use Mocha VNC on mine and it works well considering the physical size of the screen you are working in comparison to the native resolution of the host PC/server. I used to use on an Xda Orbit II, but the HD2 is a quantum leap above that.
As for the games not being compatible, have you thought about taking your whiny complaints to the software houses who don't write their software to be compatible with the current screen resolutions? Better still, why not get a dedicated games console or dare I say, an iPad?
So the phone/screen sucks because you can't play your stupid games on it? are you stupid?
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So the phone/screen sucks because you can't play your stupid games on it? are you stupid?
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This.
Also, what's the motivation to use VNC over RDP?
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So the phone/screen sucks because you can't play your stupid games on it? are you stupid?
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Yes he is, but I was too polite to point out the bleeding obvious.
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Unfortunately I cannot return it now. I love the fact that it can play FPSECE perfectly and I love how you don't have to press hard on the display but IMHO the benefits are smaller than the bad things. I should have probably gone with the N900, even if it is really slow and old-tech compared to the HD2. Any other options ?
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I think what yu need is a PS-3.. LOL.. not a phone..
I had samsung i900 omnia previously and it has resistive touch after i bought HD2 even with bigger screen (samsung had 3.2inch) i couldn't work with the phone and i had the same problem i can't click on website links and etc.
but now i can do it very easily it is just matter of time trust me then you will love it and you won't work with resistive
P.S now i have problems working with resistive tocuh screen as i try to click things by finger and not nail
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I think what yu need is a PS-3.. LOL.. not a phone..
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lol! !
Let's not be that harsh. The OP was just asking for help.
Never played anything more than Teeter on my HD2, so can't be of much help wrt games, except to say that I'm sure you'll have no problems finding an existing HD owner on these forums who would be more than eager to swop with you for your HD2 at no extra cost!
Very funny people. Calling me "*** stupid" when I just asked for your opinions. Way to go !
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Very funny people. Calling me "***stupid" when I just asked for your opinions. Way to go !
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OK, only one person called you stupid so don't assume everybody thinks you as that... Is just not so many people buy a 600 euro phone to play games on it... My advice on your problem is to be a bit patient and you will get use it... like everybody else did... I had no problems when i changed over from my hd, adjusting to the capacitive and i did play a few games as well... Mind you the games you mentioned are not meant to be played (imho) on a non-stylus screen, thus a resistive one.. I am sure soon you can get your hands on yet more games
see... as someone pointed out, You'll more likely get used to it. I was bit worried about lack of precision, but now after almost two months of use I wouldn't swap it for anything else. I don't play games much, but I've donated for fpsece and if I am bored away from home I play Gran Turismo 2 and Final Fantasy VII with full speed and multitouch. also as an owner of pc heroes of might and magic 2 gold I've installed on my card emulated version of it and it just works great. movies are being played without any reencoding (w/o ac3... still waiting for it coreplayer... ) and web browsing with opera is so damn good, that I doubt if firefox on n900 is much better (except for the flash ofcourse).
You made a right decision, just type more on hd2 and get 1.66 rom. things are going to improve for You. trust me.
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Well, why not buy a 600 euro phone to play games ? If I just wanted a simple phone I would have bought a cheap-a$$ Nokia for 20 pounds on eBay. I bought it to use it as a PSP, ebook reader, PMP, video player, Internet device etc.
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Well, why not buy a 600 euro phone to play games ? If I just wanted a simple phone I would have bought a cheap-a$$ Nokia for 20 pounds on eBay. I bought it to use it as a PSP, ebook reader, PMP, video player, Internet device etc.
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Alunalub.. no offense intended.. you would notice that a lot of us have been here for long and quite active in helping other members..
May I suggest for you to flash a nice cooked ROM.. (could recommend the Xanytech Evolution) and ofcourse the BSB tweaks to ride off problems like clicking of links etc..
Why dont you take a few mins and point of the problems/concerns you have and i can assure you that we will all try and help you out so that you can enjoy your phone
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Alunalub.. no offense intended.. you would notice that a lot of us have been here for long and quite active in helping other members..
May I suggest for you to flash a nice cooked ROM.. (could recommend the Xanytech Evolution) and ofcourse the BSB tweaks to ride off problems like clicking of links etc..
Why dont you take a few mins and point of the problems/concerns you have and i can assure you that we will all try and help you out so that you can enjoy your phone
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Very helpful response, thanks ! I think though that I will sell the HD2 and get a Viliv S5, a full 1.3 GHz x86 CPU that can run full Linux, Winblows etc. and 1 GB RAM for same price as this gimmick. Wish me luck to get a good deal !
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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If HTC would rerelease HD2 as a rebranded Android phone, this phone would sell like hotcakes considering that it is now a free phone.
Shame to hear you are disappointed, I only can say good things about my Leo
I guess each one has very different experiences regarding same device
id have to agree with jerryparid. the hd2 in general is an awesome piece of kit, purely let down by the OS.
running linux, and android, this thing is a little beaut! (thanks to the guys in the forum for making that a possibility)
Actually the PSX games run so smooth (60fps) on the HD2 the games on the HD2 blow away the games on other systems. I was shocked when I saw the PSX emulator on the HD2. Ran better then a real PSX. Plus you can actually hook up a PS3 BT controller to it and game with a real pad I say HD2 gaming is far far superior to iphone or android. Native games don't seem to have much development because 1. WP7 is coming and will bump specs up really high. Its easy to dev for a small number of phones with limited specs, but WM has 1000's of phones a year come out with specs of all types from 200mhz to 1ghz. If you were to really develop a real game like the iphone for WM you would only have like 4 phones that could run it. Then the 1000 phones that couldn't run it would all be pissed. With iphone they all have the same 1 phone so thats not an issue. With android the oldest phone is a year old so their specs are more refined. Hope this explains how to get better games you will be happy with and why there aren't as many great native games on WM. Once you get the proper rom loaded and it tweaked right the HD2 kicks ass and is super stable. I hope you put the work in to get yours where you need it. If you do I'm sure you will be very happy with it and can hold out till we get a working copy of Android on it.
firebadbobb said:
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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because you haven't found the good games yet
Leo is the best phone/pda I've owned and knocks the socks off the iphone
yeah i forgot to mention the ps1 emulator. it does run well. that is always the main program i show to new people.i never thought of the dev side to things. good point. i still wonder why the lack of exclusive games though. speaking of wm7, i hear its up in the air whether or not we get that upgrade. sorry bout typos. i am using it right now to post.
yeah, i know this is the wrong section for what im about to ask but, im getting replies here. i made a thread but nio one is biting. is there a way to install hspl without a pc? my pc died and i have to goti my moms house 30 mins away to gain access to one. again sorry for asking in wrong place.
WTF are you people on about??? talk about fanboys lol the powervr gpu in the iphone kicks the ass out of adreno lol it can do over 50 million triangles a second more as far as processing power goes snapdragon kicks the ass out of the apple a4 but then again my desire kick the ass out of ur HD's lol
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
firebadbobb said:
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
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well its true lol if your gunna have debate you need to base it on fact not what device is your fave the iphone has better games because its gpu is alot more powerful end of, if you wanna know what snapdragon is capable of check out this vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
and need for speed shift on the nexus one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfJVqFlVAtE
firebadbobb said:
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
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Because you haven't written them yet.
jerryparid said:
If HTC would rerelease HD2 as a rebranded Android phone, this phone would sell like hotcakes
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They did, it's called the EVO 4G. And it did sell like hotcakes.
I thought it was a phone, not a gaming console
caise i havent written them yet. lmao. point. yeah i love games. if i can get some good games on here, then i will.
I love my HD2, awesome piece of kit, let down by the OS though!
Yet it still works a treat!
firebadbobb said:
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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It's as some of the others say, it's an OS-level problem. iOS simply allows for much better game design, which is why games on iPhone tend to look better than they do on other smartphone OSes.
WinMo is a very established OS, but without a good underlying design, programing something spectacular for it is very tough. This is not a problem exclusive to WinMo, but I think WinMo epitomizes the problem very well. When your OS requires a 1Ghz CPU just to get anywhere close to the smoothness of a phone using a 412Mhz CPU, there is a serious problem.
When your OS requires phone manufacturers to develop custom UIs to make usability better, there is an even worse problem.
the phone hardware? is great....
BUUUT what makes the phone suck-monkey balls b/c window period!
i love window to stay within the pc world not cell-phone!
conquer anyone?
I have a PSP to play video games with. thats not what i do with my phone.
dowwin said:
the phone hardware? is great....
BUUUT what makes the phone suck-monkey balls b/c window period!
i love window to stay within the pc world not cell-phone!
conquer anyone?
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I very recently bought a TP2 and a HD2.
Despite the noticeably slower Sense and smaller screen I'll be keeping the TP2 and selling the HD2.
I still feel keyboard is a massive win over touch screen & Swype.
Also I've not been to impressed with the stability of big time roms for the HD2 so I've only been using official roms.