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I Think its a great Applikation, so look here:
http://www.inside-handy.de/news/14601.html
look at the Video
What u Think?
what do i think..
useless, exactly as 7/8 of htc stuff, imo.
We can make better things with homescreen plus plus and mortscript, imo.
Strange use of colours. Too little data for a 4.1 inch WVGA screen. Most importantly, it lacks class, due to it's colours.
What I think?
Good idea -launcher wise. Lacks userfriendlyness when it cant display a calendar and clock simultaniously. But I dont think that colors equals less class as posted above.
I don't like it and my WAD setup is way beound that..
Go WAD! ;-)
The colors makes it the wierdest setup I have ever seen (who ever thought that looks slick?). The design is simple. It can and most likely, will be emulated by the superior wisbar advance desktop.
I did like the dialer. Hopefully a little more effort can be used in this GUI. Until then its WAD for me.
oi. this looks horrible.
not my type of display colors
They are tying to be all touchy feely a-la-Iphone. Not bad specs though. UI is alright, nothing special though when you have that much horsepower running the hardware.
UI is ok and at least customizable compared to TF3D.
But I fear they could miss improving things like start menu, system status menu...etc like HTC did. Those things are extremly useful and Toshiba should provide something similar or release an update to 6.5 short after it is available (in fact: summer for OEMs).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9F4QJK1wFs
looks "basic" slow and pretty sh**ty after all this wait....
'working prototype'. That's a little troubling for me. It's going to be released in ~8 months. It should be close to a 'release candidate' instead of 'prototype'..
i wouldn't worry yourself.... its not even going to be worth installing !
Are we still able to use the standard WM theme ?
I don't want all them icons !
OMG. why when i see the main screen - i feel like throwing up? so much unused space, azure color, the wasted space on the right - feels like the screen is not properly aligned... If you are out of good ideas for the design - why not make a Win7 theme with the aero. make buttons have more aero feel, not this bs...
P.S. IMHO, for it to succeed they will have to redo the design and make it highly customized.
P.P.S. Did you know big dev companies are already dropping win 6.5? example - Skype, Adobe...... I hope WinMo7 burns in hell
I wouldn't complain about speed at this point; look more at the functionality and what it does rather than the speed of the transitions, time it takes to respond to touch etc. Those are all tweaks that can be done closer to RTM.
I'm still expecting them to include some kind of background on the start screen, since that full black background is just odd.
As much as some people here are complaining, MS has really placed a lot of emphasis on UI study the last few years and designing crazy yet efficient UIs around them. See Office 2007, 7bar, etc.
I think if they let you skin that start screen background, it'll be much more tolerable.
The rest of the UI is pretty sharp IMO.
Of course, if MS doesn't allow it, the clever folks @ xda will make it so anyways.
I thought they are not making a version for the HTC HD2? They officially will not make windows 7 for the HD2 as it has more than 3 buttons :S wtf
I like the demo phone, it's slick, wonder how the back look like.
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OMG. why when i see the main screen - i feel like throwing up? so much unused space, azure color, the wasted space on the right - feels like the screen is not properly aligned... If you are out of good ideas for the design - why not make a Win7 theme with the aero. make buttons have more aero feel, not this bs...
P.S. IMHO, for it to succeed they will have to redo the design and make it highly customized.
P.P.S. Did you know big dev companies are already dropping win 6.5? example - Skype, Adobe...... I hope WinMo7 burns in hell
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+100
It's even uglier than my first impression on the day it was officially announced. bleh
I would not install it on my HD2 even if I was paid to do so.
very brilliant os ,look at the animations and the workability
Why is it that all the titles are cut off half way?
It makes no sense. Also, there is so much space...
And WHO NEEDS BING.
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Why is it that all the titles are cut off half way?
It makes no sense. Also, there is so much space...
And WHO NEEDS BING.
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Im also not very found with bing, but i'm not gonna go to conclusions yet - lets wait for the MIX event. But the spacing is just ridiculous - 20-25% of the screen at the top is filled with the word "PEOPLE" "GAMES"..... - personally i can't find a logical explanation.
Lock's to me like WM 7 has to be compleate rebuild by xda-members before we can think about to use it. Dont like what I see...
Microsoft should be carefull with their WM devlopment since they already have lose alot of the marked, it's short way to miss the rest of it.
The only thing I don't like is the start screen. if you could skin it with sense I am sold. or customize it to give me what sense gives me I am sold.
what is the screen size of this prototype and what may be its processor
can the design be any worse? I mean hardware and software are disgusting
have a look yourself
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU2NzEwNDky.html
Hmm, it looks good
i digg it
Looks erm.. yeah, crazy.
I'm from the UK and wasn't able to play the video, but found it on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bknYUP0duxM
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I'm from the UK and wasn't able to play the video, but found it on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bknYUP0duxM
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Same here .. thanks for da youtube link !
Title has to be .. not very cool > http://www.youku.com/ videos
Waaaaaaaaaaaay too complicated... doesn't look to be the fastest navigation experience either...
But it's nice to see what the N1 can do.
I loved the photo album.
I think this could be a really cool interface.
Not the most practical, but it sure looks pretty. I'm surprised it doesn't lag like a snail crawling through molasses. Maybe they overclocked their N1 unit, or else they've got very, very competent coders.
Didn't like that at all. Seems overly complicated and doesn't really give you much in the way of a preview on the videos. It would be better if there was a single frame of the video showing instead of the pop-up when the user scrolls along the spotlights. The 3D cube looks very annoying - I'd prefer that TATHome UI, it looks much slicker.
Too much BS on that interface. More like it was designed by a marketing guy catering to a demographics comprised of a bunch of 8 year olds. Completely devoid of elegance and simplicity. Eye candy BS.
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Too much BS on that interface. More like it was designed by a marketing guy catering to a demographics comprised of a bunch of 8 year olds. Completely devoid of elegance and simplicity. Eye candy BS.
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Being that Android is stable and fast enough, i wouldnt mind some eye candy now. Seriously.
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Bingo!
They want to show off, so why not. Nothing wrong with the odd bit of eye candy now and then.
i kinda like the UI...very nice
Looks good.
www.youtube.com/android
It's about to start. 9pm US Central Time.
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www.youtube.com/android
It's about to start. 9pm US Central Time.
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Yo, this is really great! Thank.
Just starting with Andy Rubin.
It's not working for me? All I see is the "Calling All Ice Cream Sandwich Lovers" video :S
It not work with Cosmic Panda.
that was sweet really looking forward to the release
Just watched the stream and here are my thoughts:
Ice Cream Sandwich looks like a crap. Personally it looks like a jumbled honeycomb and WP7 aka "Magazine Interface". Google had the chance to pick up the ball Apple dropped and make the design a little more inviting. From the the blue Tron glow of the dialer to the metro like interface of the people app (?) it's like 5 different themes jumbled into one.
Hardware wise, it gets a meh. I'm just excited to get the larger screen plus Super Amoled HD
Despite that, the features are amazing. I was particularly blown away by the instant voice, nfc sharing, and new photo features. Android has come along way.
Shame they didn't touch on ICS for tablets as this was the OS that ties phone and tablet together.
In another note, reading the Engadget comments, I'm particularity amused that most "comments" (apple fanboys) believe that this was the first time Android featured folders. HA! Take that Apple!
If you missed the live stream, here's an article giving you a quick run through of all the new features. I particularly like the new face unlock. Can your precious iphone and ipad do this?
techcrunch.com/2011/10/18/a-quick-ice-cream-sandwich-feature-rundown/
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If you missed the live stream, here's an article giving you a quick run through of all the new features. I particularly like the new face unlock. Can your precious iphone and ipad do this?
techcrunch.com/2011/10/18/a-quick-ice-cream-sandwich-feature-rundown/
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This would be perfect on our tablets..phones not so much. I can't wait to try that instant voice dictation.
when can we have stock ICS packed so we can put iton our little tablets? :-D
33:00 face unlock fail..
So when we'll see it on our TF? too bad they showed ICS on a phone only and didn't demostrait how it looks on tablets, after all that was the big purpose of that new OS.
I agree, no tablet love at all? First it proves that samsungs tab or whatever is no where ready to run ICS. If it was they would have showed it?
What was fun about last night was I hooked up my TF to my tv and streamed it live. I thought that was cool...
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I'm posting this here, because I would assume that most of the people who bought a Note did it because of the S-Pen. Therefore, you probably did it for artistic reasons, or because of handwriting support.
Personally, I did it for artsy reasons. For the last couple years (since I got my iPad1) I have been preferring drawing pictures digitally. In order to reference my "style" (might help with my later question) my work is on:
http://niiru.deviantart.com/
I had a few setbacks (apps being a pain, etc) and problems with resolutions and all that, but for the last few months it was ticking along nicely.
And then... I wanted to upgrade my tablet. But an iPad4? The same as what I had pretty much, but the new version? Seemed boring... even though it would be easy, as I could keep the new apps etc...
BUT no... I impulse bought a Note10.1 instead. Because the more-accurate style of stylus could only help, and pressure support? I did without it until now, but it might help in future!
HOWEVER...
I started with Sketchbook Pro on the ipad, a good program. However it was limited in the resolution you could use, which meant that the exported pictures were not very big on my computer screen. And of course, if you enlarge them, they become heavily pixelated. Not good.
So I changed to vector programs, mostly one called "iDraw", which is basically a full adobe illustrator style program. Does absolutely everything. And the main advantage being, the vectors are saved when you export the file... so you can make the pictures as big as you want without any pixellation problems!
My problem with android though... the only vector apps I can find are Adobe Ideas (very very badly rated, 1 star app...) and one called Infinite Design (very highly rated, but still rough around the edges).
BACK TO THE POINT...
So while Adobe Ideas is being made into something thats... not crap. And while infinte design is working out its issues (though I'm still going to try and use it), I wondered what all you guys out in Note-land were using?
Im expecting some nods to sketchbook pro.... and I'm really hoping someone will tell me a way to get around its "canvas size is limited to screen resolution" problem. As this... is pretty bad.
...and I'm also hoping for a few new ideas, some "diamond in the rough" apps which haven't reached my ears yet..
Really hoping I won't regret buying the Note to be honest... I had high hopes for it. It has hit an early hurdle, even taking into account the relative youth of the android tablet app environment.
FOR THOSE WHO SKIPPED THE WALL OF TEXT:
QUESTION - What do you guys use, to make pretty pictures on the tablets. Vector based for preference, or bitmap if the canvas size can be changed!
Thanks y'all.
(excuse any rambling, it is 2am here. 'nuff said.)
edit: I didn't put this in the "questions" thread, because its not a question about the Note itself... sorry if that was a mistake.
I also bought the note to draw on and do some sketching, but have been unable to find a program that I like. I keep getting random lines with some of the apps from leaning on the screen. Very dissapointing, but I would like to see what people would recommend
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rgane5327 said:
I also bought the note to draw on and do some sketching, but have been unable to find a program that I like. I keep getting random lines with some of the apps from leaning on the screen. Very dissapointing, but I would like to see what people would recommend
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Ok, after another half hour of playing around with Infinite Design, I can see why a) some people give it great reviews, and b) why some people hate it.
I'll start with b) - The interface is a little confusing, and definately needs to be worked on. I think its a one-man project though, so things like UI design may not be at the top of his list. It takes a while to find some things, like certains tools and ways of doing things. I guess thats what they would call a learning curve though.
however...
a) This app does have some very very clever design features. I have found a couple that have actually wowed me, and made me think I could use it to do some really interesting work.
For instance, you can add a line of symmetry to a drawing, so that everything you draw is mirrored along a vertical/horizontal/angled line of symmetry.
Not too special you say? Well you can add this line mid-drawing, without it automatically mirroring your previous work, and do a couple mirrored lines, then remove it. Ive known programs that would simply mirror everything.
Still not enough? The line of symmetry is customisable, it defaults to the centre of where your screen is aimed on the canvas, and can be moved to any location. *This is actually potentially very useful, and I know of no iOS apps that have this as a feature.*
back to b) though, finding out HOW to put in these lines of symmetry, and how to then move them (it involves a tool that is in a different menu entirely) was half judgement and half luck on my part. There aren't any tutorials for any of this stuff *yet*.
But yes, if vectors float your boat (as they do mine) it would seem that "Infinite Design" is currently the one to watch on Android. Its not perfect, it will take some work and getting used to, but with a few more updates (and the guy seems to be working on them fairly regularly, relatively speaking) it could be something pretty special.
SO I have put in an answer to my own question, someone elses turn now!
Edit:
I actually emailed the creators of sketchbook pro (auto desk) because I was so annoyed by the canvas size limitation I wanted to vent my anger in a request for much-needed-changes...
Less than an hour later, I had an actual reply! I was shocked, to say the least.
Apparently Chad (the auto desk guy) was so helpful, he decided to let me know that the new version of sketchbook for iPad and android was coming soon, and would have changes to the canvas limitation, as well as various other "exciting changes in the way people will use this app".
He seemed excited, and now so am I!
So there might be good things coming for sketchbook pro, and I am glad as that was always a very good app on iOS.
niiiice nirurin ! ... Sketchbook pro needs Palm rejection badly and faster input without a lag.
I use
Lecture notes - for fast input line drawings
Paint Joy now known as Doodle Joy :good:
Sketchbook Pro
Photoshop touch
Drawing :good:
Markers
Pretty Painter
Quill
Sketch and Paint
Layer Paint
Snote Jellybean version , for collage type cutting and pasting multiple images and creating new concept characters .
me and my colleagues here @ Dreamworks Animation use the tablet mainly for caricature and painting , so its art all the way .
You may want to check out this thread to see some examples of art Note 10.1 users have done. Will also give you some idea of the capabilities of the apps they used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Quill or Papyrus are the best drawing apps in my opinion.
hpblze said:
niiiice nirurin ! ... Sketchbook pro needs Palm rejection badly and faster input without a lag.
I use
Lecture notes - for fast input line drawings
Paint Joy now known as Doodle Joy :good:
Sketchbook Pro
Photoshop touch
Drawing :good:
Markers
Pretty Painter
Quill
Sketch and Paint
Layer Paint
Snote Jellybean version , for collage type cutting and pasting multiple images and creating new concept characters .
me and my colleagues here @ Dreamworks Animation use the tablet mainly for caricature and painting , so its art all the way .
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Good list! I'm going through them on the play store at the moment, though a few of them fall into the "fun" category, of being nice to play around and doodle on, but no use for any bigger projects. The problem is usually a matter of having no way to export the pictures as a usable file type
edit: layer paint seems interesting, if it ever makes a tablet version it could be awesome. I cant find an app called "drawing" though...
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Quill or Papyrus are the best drawing apps in my opinion.
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I had heard of these before, but I had thought they were just for handwriting (that is what they themselves advertise as) though the quill app does seem to have a few nice drawing tools too. And it can save as a .pdf.. which would usually mean saving any vector information too! Interesting..
TVPaint
If you want a mind bogglingly advanced program, try signing up for the TVPaint beta
http://www.tvpaint.com/v2/content/article/downloads/openbeta.php
otherwise, Layerpaint is great and allows you to modify the resolution as well as export files for use in Photoshop
I made a thread a while back with a list of applications and links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846149&highlight=for+the+artists
Jonphinguyen7 said:
I made a thread a while back with a list of applications and links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846149&highlight=for+the+artists
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Ahh thanks, I will take a look
I have also found out about an app called TouchDraw... vector drawing, seems to have been a popular one on the iPad store, and is released on android recently it seems....
But its unavailable in my country? I'm in the UK, so I'm guessing its for America only for some reason (As I doubt the developer has a specific grudge against the UK). I may try and find a way around this, so that I can test it out and review it for you guys.
I'll try and post up a review thread of all these apps somewhere soon, so people can find the apps that would be most useful to them (vectors/bitmap/fun/serious/etc)
Assuming this would be useful to anyone anyway, I know it would be to me
My daughter wants an app that's good for inking and has a blend and smudge tool, multiple brush modes, and layers. Do any of the apps out there fit this bill.
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bulletwithbatwings said:
If you want a mind bogglingly advanced program, try signing up for the TVPaint beta
http://www.tvpaint.com/v2/content/article/downloads/openbeta.php
otherwise, Layerpaint is great and allows you to modify the resolution as well as export files for use in Photoshop
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I got this just now. Had an hour of playing around (and looking up windows help guides to figure some stuff out)....
Oh..Em..Gee.
This is an insane program. It is like a full windows animation program, on a tablet.
And strangely, it wouldnt work on any normal tablet, only ones that use a pen. Fingers would be way too thick to hit these menu buttons, and the contextual help only comes up on "mouse-overs".
Colour me impressed, this tool will be something awesome when it is released. There needs to be more like this! Programs that the iPad could *never* have (unless they release a non-capacitive screened iPad, which I doubt they would).
My daughter wants an app that's good for inking and has a blend and smudge tool, multiple brush modes, and layers. Do any of the apps out there fit this bill.
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Sketchbook pro has most, if not all, of these features. Not sure on the blend and smudge for the android version, I know that the iPad version did. Check it out in the Play store, it should list the features.
It is a very good program, and I have been told by an Autodesk employee that a new update that will add all sorts of nice new features, and will be coming out "soon". Though how soon "soon" is, is anyones guess.
Dont take my word for it though (I'd hate for you to spend money and then blame me if I was wrong!!!) so check out the Play listing for sketchbook pro. Make sure you end up buying the "Sketchbook Pro for Tablets" one though, if you do buy it.
Edit: There are blend modes using layers.... but no smudge tool in sketchbook. Not on android anyway, it has been on the iPad version for a long time though. I would *think* that it would get added in the upcoming update. Sorry I couldnt be more help, I haven't yet explored the colouring side things on android...
However, I hear good things about a program called "Infinite Painter", made by the same guy who does the Infinite Design app. The pictures I have seen done using it were very impressive, so I expect that might have smudge/blend tools. I would check that one out if I were you. It has a Note-specific version of the app, which is nice!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brakefield.painter&hl=en
This is a link to the Free version. Probably has adverts or limited saves or something. The paid version isnt expensive though.
I use sketchbook pro, best app for drawing I've used and easy translation from photoshop illustrator but slightly easier for stuff like adding layers.
Lacks the one thing it needs which is palm rejection which would make it a worthwhile purchase.
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Samsungnooby said:
I use sketchbook pro, best app for drawing I've used and easy translation from photoshop illustrator but slightly easier for stuff like adding layers.
Lacks the one thing it needs which is palm rejection which would make it a worthwhile purchase.
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It's the app I used on iPad, but trust me when I say the iPad version has a lot more tools in it. Don't know why they've been so slow with the android one.
An update on my infinite design findings... It's good. But it's missing some necessary tools, such as Path joining and being able to select-all. Also it seems you can't have your line be a different color to your fill...
Vector graphics users will hopefully understand what I mean lol. I miss my iDraw program on the iOS. It had everything. Maybe someday soon a program will catch up to it!
Although I still need to try that new TouchDraw program that's on Samsung apps... It looks promising, in theory.
Because people think of Apple users as "artists" and Android users as geeks.
Anyway, tvpaint looks ridiculously complex!
I once was quite good at using TV Paint (when it was called Mirage) but I forgot almost all of it. It's a very specific program. Right now I would kill for MyPaint on Note 10.1. I'm considering porting it - but it uses Python which is not available on Android AFAIK.
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Because people think of Apple users as "artists" and Android users as geeks.
Anyway, tvpaint looks ridiculously complex!
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Its probably generally quite true, but as an artist AND a geek, I am happy with my wacom-powered device. So they need to start making apps for it!
Saying that, I had an email from the developer of the vector app I use, and he has finished his other project for now and is back to work on his next update for this app. So things are moving forward!
I was just about to bite the bullet, and spend the £5.50 for the TouchDraw app from the samsung store when I noticed.... It is only compatible with Jellybean 4.1+.
Which hasnt been released for my device yet, officially.
Lame.
Might be time to root.
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I was just about to bite the bullet, and spend the £5.50 for the TouchDraw app from the samsung store when I noticed.... It is only compatible with Jellybean 4.1+.
Which hasnt been released for my device yet, officially.
Lame.
Might be time to root.
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Flash CM10 and never look back. (Until Jellybean suite comes at least)
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Flash CM10 and never look back. (Until Jellybean suite comes at least)
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If i root and flash cm 10 how do i get all the samsung apps back on my tab?