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GPS question

I have a bluetooth gps reciever but no mapping software. I don't pay for internet (just use the wifi) with t-mobile so I cannot use google maps. Does anyone know of any free mapping software that I can download to my SD card?

twflys said:
I have a bluetooth gps reciever but no mapping software. I don't pay for internet (just use the wifi) with t-mobile so I cannot use google maps. Does anyone know of any free mapping software that I can download to my SD card?
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Im not bashing in anyway, but why buy a PPC let alone a GPS reciever and not get internet? But since the post is up already, Im looking to get a reciever in the next week, im looking at the OnCourse Bluetooth GPS Receiver Edition 3
http://www.buygpsnow.com/OnCourse-Bluetooth-GPS-Receiver-Edition-3-(WAAS-enabled)_882.aspx
Anyone have any other suggestions on reciever? And any comments on GoogleMaps which is my first pick, or any other suggestions for Nav programs on a Wing with its limited storage?
Gimpy

Not freee. But i love TomTom 6.xxx
For german user it is fantastic - because streets here in germany are sooooo smalllll that you pass 5 streets in 2 minutes while driving 5MpH
Hahahahaah......

actually, I pay for t-mobile web. Which is limited internet to basically be able to just download my emails. It's $15 extra a month to upgrade to full internet. I don't really use the internet THAT much to justify it, I think.

twflys said:
actually, I pay for t-mobile web. Which is limited internet to basically be able to just download my emails. It's $15 extra a month to upgrade to full internet. I don't really use the internet THAT much to justify it, I think.
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You might if you had it to use. lol
I was paying sprint $150 a month, so i went all out with Tmobile and im still like 60 bucks cheaper a month. Will the 9.99 net not get google maps to work?
Gimpy

papamopps said:
Not freee. But i love TomTom 6.xxx
For german user it is fantastic - because streets here in germany are sooooo smalllll that you pass 5 streets in 2 minutes while driving 5MpH
Hahahahaah......
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papa is tomtom a system hog tho? Is it a better match for gps with the voices and all? Can you give me any info on user impresstions?
Gimpy

9.99?? I pay 4.99 I think for the "web" application that does NOT include free internet... so, are you saying for 5 more bucks I can have FULL internet with it? Maybe I need to double check t-mobile's website.
I wish I knew the name of the BT GPS that I am using (it's at home)... However, it works great!

twflys said:
9.99?? I pay 4.99 I think for the "web" application that does NOT include free internet... so, are you saying for 5 more bucks I can have FULL internet with it? Maybe I need to double check t-mobile's website.
I wish I knew the name of the BT GPS that I am using (it's at home)... However, it works great!
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When I got my wing, which wasnt long ago, I thought they had a small web package for 10 bucks. I could be wrong. I pay 40 for unlimited everything.
Gimpy

Airman Gimpy, T-mobile now offers unlimited internet for the Wing for $19.99/month. The plan is called T-Mobile Total Internet Add-on.

If your on T-Mobile US, get the T-Zones plan and setup the proxy (info all over xda-dev) then you can have internet, email, and use google maps and live search. the new google maps doesnt need a gps as they do cell based triangulation (my location) which is usuall pretty close.

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Airman Gimpy, T-mobile now offers unlimited internet for the Wing for $19.99/month. The plan is called T-Mobile Total Internet Add-on.
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I have the unlimited net with hot spots for 19.99 and then unlimited text and junk for another 14.99, so it comes out to 33.99 for my PPC package.

check out navizon.com 25$ and get wifi positioning (mock gps)

theformula said:
If your on T-Mobile US, get the T-Zones plan and setup the proxy (info all over xda-dev) then you can have internet, email, and use google maps and live search. the new google maps doesnt need a gps as they do cell based triangulation (my location) which is usuall pretty close.
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pretty close is 1700 circuliar meters. Thats not close to me.

AT&T charges GPS on X1i with iGo8?

Kinda stupid question, but does anyone know if AT&T charge GPS on my X1i phone with iGo8? The reason I ask this is because my company pays for my AT&T phone service with no Data plan.
My X1i is installed iGo8 and everything is working. If I use it will they charge me?
Thanks in advance.

no they will not

there should be no charge if the maps are on the sd card.
to be sure, delete the data connections or disable them with nodata

hmmmm...that's what I thought too. But my boss said AT&T charged him for GPS. Since I don't have the bill statement so I can't tell.
This is strange. I have the maps on my SD card and I also disabled HSPDA/HSUPA. Or he must be misleading with SMS service.
Thanks,

maybe he used a different navigation app, sometimes operators bundle apps that download maps on the go (charging for them).

u simply cant charge for GPS. GPS is just a receiver. just like the FM tuner in our phone. theres no frecking way on earth that AT&T can know when u using your GPS device. especialy not when u disabled all the internet stuff.
what u can charge for is AGPS. but thats disabled in our phone anyway since we have quickgps which could be charged too but thats also just a simple data connection.
so in short!
NO ^^

The only way you can get charged is if you use ATT's Nav app which is $9.99 a month. Other than that it is technically impossible to be charged for GPS.

alabij said:
The only way you can get charged is if you use ATT's Nav app which is $9.99 a month. Other than that it is technically impossible to be charged for GPS.
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I think you're right. That could be it. I had AGPS disabled in the phone.

LIFE WITH OUT DATA PLAN and GOOGLE NAVIGATION??

I have little use for my data plan. I find anytime I can sit down and play on the web, I’m not far from a WIFI hot spot. I do like Google navigation as a flawed but useful GPS system.
-The question is, does Google maps and Navigation require constant data communication through my data plan, or can I simply park in front of a WIFI coffee shop, plan my route, download maps. Then logout, and be on my way.
-If not, any workarounds? Get all the maps and use them with some other free-ish gps system?
-Has the advent of Google Nav. made any other 3rd party, turn by turn, GPS apps more affordable?
-What else am I likely to miss (Google has so many tentacles into my phone…and me I wonder)
Thanks In advance

Hello,
I think only google maps only require data connection as it downloads maps from there server so thats why, the app is small. May be there are similar app.
As of tomtom, garmin and etc, thay don't require data connection but just the gps connection where you can get easily. And as you see, these apps are bigger and you have to buy the map to use the app. Of course the app also.
Best Regards

I use navicomputer http://navicomputer.com/ no data required after you download your maps.

google navigation downloads the whole route when u calculate it. if you get off track though, you may be out of luck. it will only zoom out and show u where the route is so you can get back on track. unless ur destination has data, you wont be able to reverse the route either.
i would recommend getting tomtom, garmin or similar programs.

Interesting, thanks guys
I guess I was think most about “Google Navigation” most. It doesn’t take a lot of data to describe a 3d intersection or a lot of CPU/gpu horsepower to drive through it on the screen. I don’t really know how much an android has.
Navicomp looks great for some things I do but for navigating new places, 3d type gps really works well for me. Last time I looked, TomTom and Garmin weren’t available for Android.
I think I’ll just test Navigation if I remember tomorrow, plan a route, get going, turn the data off (if I can figure that out) and see what happens.
I’ll report back,
PK

I take it he got lost then?!!

look into ndrive or my fav. copilot

Lol i couldn't imagine my phone without a data plan I need to use the web constantly
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Looks like "NaviComputer" as suggested above would be your best bet if you've got the space for it. If you're on a Sprint device, you could switch to Boost Mobile which has unlimited free internet with all its plans from PayAsYouGo to Monthly Unlimited. Granted EvDo is always pretty darn slow, so depending on how much free space you've got inside, you may wish to go with NaviComputer, plus you won't have to deal with signal issues either.
Best of Luck.
- 2 Bunny

I use IGO 8 and love it better than tom tom or google maps
PM me and I can give you the links for it with all world maps or individual state maps

I use mapdroyd its free and you can download the whole world (5gb) also free, but it is not able to give you turn by turn navigation but you can follow the root
and gives you off-road support to.

CoPilot is AWESOME.
check youtube for videos.
It stores the maps on your sdcard.
It works great with 2.3 gingerbread too and 2.2.
I can't say enough.
The simple fact that you touch a point of interest and it will show you the phone # and give you the option to press call.
VERY easy to use and great display.

Thanks, I had a look and it looks interesting, might give it a try.
Regards, PK

Copilot all the way.
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looks nice and the price is sure right, I think I'll have to check it out.
Thanks, PK

pk2 said:
I have little use for my data plan. I find anytime I can sit down and play on the web, I’m not far from a WIFI hot spot. I do like Google navigation as a flawed but useful GPS system.
-The question is, does Google maps and Navigation require constant data communication through my data plan, or can I simply park in front of a WIFI coffee shop, plan my route, download maps. Then logout, and be on my way.
-If not, any workarounds? Get all the maps and use them with some other free-ish gps system?
-Has the advent of Google Nav. made any other 3rd party, turn by turn, GPS apps more affordable?
-What else am I likely to miss (Google has so many tentacles into my phone…and me I wonder)
Thanks In advance
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if you're a heavy gps user (like me) data is essential. I mean there are alternatives that you can pre download maps on your sd card, but they fill up your storage quick, and aren't as convenient. also you need to manually update them which is a pain. With google maps you have real time traffic updating, business hours and what not. It is pretty convenient, I average over 400 miles of driving a week within my city (my job requires me to travel around), and tell you what I haven't missed one exit using google nav.
As far as the pricing of the data, you can always ask for student discount, employee discounts, or even a preferred loyalty plan. I am actually getting unlimited 4g from tmo (5gb data cap) for $20 a month while one of my friend only gets 200mb for $15 a month....

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if you're a heavy gps user (like me) data is essential. I mean there are alternatives that you can pre download maps on your sd card, but they fill up your storage quick, and aren't as convenient. also you need to manually update them which is a pain. With google maps you have real time traffic updating, business hours and what not. It is pretty convenient, I average over 400 miles of driving a week within my city (my job requires me to travel around), and tell you what I haven't missed one exit using google nav.
As far as the pricing of the data, you can always ask for student discount, employee discounts, or even a preferred loyalty plan. I am actually getting unlimited 4g from tmo (5gb data cap) for $20 a month while one of my friend only gets 200mb for $15 a month....
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Boost Mobile has always unlimited data too for situations like these. If you are just shooting for data only, using the pay as you go plan with just one or two calls/messages every once in a while will help you go far.
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_ice_ said:
if you're a heavy gps user (like me)...you can pre download maps on your sd card, but they fill up your storage quick, ...I average over 400 miles of driving a week within my city ... google nav. .
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I actually don’t drive that much, but when I do, north or south of home (Orange county CA) I’m a babe in the woods, GPS is really nice. I also feel it should be an integral part of my ride.
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As far as the pricing of the data, you can always ask for student discount, employee discounts, or even a preferred loyalty plan. I am actually getting unlimited 4g from tmo (5gb data cap) for $20 a month while one of my friend only gets 200mb for $15 a month....
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So what does it take to be come a “student” (some basic photoshop & a document layout program skills?) And definitely, what does it take to become a preferred loyalty plan?
I pay $30+ unlimited. One issue I have is I could go on a “per kb” plan. The problem is I haven’t a clue how many kb say, 10 miles of google nav will use or, the occasional web search for an address or web site requires in Kb’s (and $’s). I’ve look for an app that could count the kb’s to see if it's cost effective, but no luck.
(I had one phone I picked up and unlocked. It Made $800 worth the 3g calls all by itself overnight.)

pk2 said:
I actually don’t drive that much, but when I do, north or south of home (Orange county CA) I’m a babe in the woods, GPS is really nice. I also feel it should be an integral part of my ride.
So what does it take to be come a “student” (some basic photoshop & a document layout program skills?) And definitely, what does it take to become a preferred loyalty plan?
I pay $30+ unlimited. One issue I have is I could go on a “per kb” plan. The problem is I haven’t a clue how many kb say, 10 miles of google nav will use or, the occasional web search for an address or web site requires in Kb’s (and $’s). I’ve look for an app that could count the kb’s to see if it's cost effective, but no luck.
(I had one phone I picked up and unlocked. It Made $800 worth the 3g calls all by itself overnight.)
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a student discount means you have to actually attend a college or university that can be verified by the loyalty department.
also you can ask for a grandfathered plan if you have been a customer for awhile.
if you have an android which I believe you do according to your signature. get the 3g watchdog app if you're running on a limited data plan. it automatically shuts off your data (4g supported now I believe) and changes your APN settings to prevent virtually anything from connecting to the data network (MMS won't work unless you do the spoof workaround). but as far as per kb$ don't get the plan it just a train wreck, depending on the background apps, ROM, type of apps you get the data usage can range from 1kb-2 mb an hour per app.
For instance HTC sense uses more data (per kb/mb) than an AOSP rom. why? friendstream and all that junk that stays on, as opposed to no junk on aosp.
So do some more research and testing and you will find the best service for your buck (took me about 3 months to lower my bill to a suitable amount) but now its well worth it

Couple of quick questions

Hey all,
I have a few quick questions, i have been using search but i havn't found my answers yet. I was wondering if there is a .cab for a barcode reader app like on android. Also is does anyone know if t-mobile USA has a fair use limit such as 5gb for data (i know verizon does). Also i'm having trouble connecting to anything online with my phone after updating to TMOUSA's new rom today.

check out omarket for a barcode reader, i use i-nigma, it does the job.
Tmo usa will definately have a "fair use" policy on data usage, it'l be in your contract or their site, the last time I checked in the UK it was only 1gb. They say everythings bigger in America though.......
Cant help you with your rom problem im afraid......

tmobilehas has disabled internet sharing capability.
try wmwifirouterapp you gotta pay but it'll work

sherlockpwnz said:
tmobilehas has disabled internet sharing capability.
try wmwifirouterapp you gotta pay but it'll work
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I think you mean that they didn't include an app for it? I've been using it since the HD2 came out (and before that I used it on my HD) and it works just fine. Pretty much all custom roms have it cooked in, but you can always just download and install wifirouter cab.
As for the limit, I believe it was 5gigs and has been changed to 10gigs (pretty sure it's one or the other). If you go over, I believe they just throttle you down but they don't cut you off and there's no overage charge.

no there is an internet sharing app tmobile is doing away with it. i bought my phone back in march and it had an internet sharing shortcut and worked up until this new update. it blocks communication to their network when the phone recognizes the phone is connected via usb

I'm not a fan of the WIFI app, i think WMWIFIROUTER is much better. It seems that the Wifi app on winmo just piggybacks on my wifi network at home and extends the range. I noticed that it still has the same hostname under "status" on my pc.

Mexico and GPS

Does the GPS require internet (Sprint Data Usage) or is there an app that can use the gps chip so I can use the evo when im in mexico without charging me a billion dollars Thanks Renz

I do not know the answer to your question, but I do know how to get it.
Turn on Airplane mode, or simply turn off the phone radios. Then turn on GPS and test it.
FYI: Google maps requires data, so you would need a 3rd party app that loads the maps to your phone.

Right im definately thinking I need a 3rd party app i did some searching for a garmin app but no luck I found mapDroyd for offline map viewing but theres no place for routes or directions I really hate to be lost in mexico city lol Thanks

i think copilot live keeps maps on device, meaning works offline. not sure if it has mexico maps though.

I sent them an email i saw on another site someone said Mexico was included with north America but waiting for official verification. On another note I see TomTom has an app for Iphone and soon to have on for Android but not yet and I am going on the 18th. Thanks Wade

Copilot has Mexico maps. It works pretty well if you can stand copilots slow ass interface. My dad bought Copilot frankly I don't know why anyone would want to waste money on a separate navigation program aside from Google maps...even in Mexico dude I suggest just getting a gia roji...
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Google is advertising bing mobile as a navigation tool. I think you can connect to the bing website you should be able to get navigation. Not sure how it works but look it up, you should find some stuff.

The problem is no internet or I would jjust use the navigation but Thanks for the idea Renegadez

If your going to cancun, you can use your sprint phone there.
I was there last November, and my phone worked fine. (even though the sprint rep said it wouldnt work there)
You just have to dial 01 then the area code to the us.
It about $1 a minute though on my sprint bill, so be careful.
WHen you arrive, sprint will send you a a text message "welcome to mexico" then you know your in business.