Kinda stupid question, but does anyone know if AT&T charge GPS on my X1i phone with iGo8? The reason I ask this is because my company pays for my AT&T phone service with no Data plan.
My X1i is installed iGo8 and everything is working. If I use it will they charge me?
Thanks in advance.
no they will not
there should be no charge if the maps are on the sd card.
to be sure, delete the data connections or disable them with nodata
hmmmm...that's what I thought too. But my boss said AT&T charged him for GPS. Since I don't have the bill statement so I can't tell.
This is strange. I have the maps on my SD card and I also disabled HSPDA/HSUPA. Or he must be misleading with SMS service.
Thanks,
maybe he used a different navigation app, sometimes operators bundle apps that download maps on the go (charging for them).
u simply cant charge for GPS. GPS is just a receiver. just like the FM tuner in our phone. theres no frecking way on earth that AT&T can know when u using your GPS device. especialy not when u disabled all the internet stuff.
what u can charge for is AGPS. but thats disabled in our phone anyway since we have quickgps which could be charged too but thats also just a simple data connection.
so in short!
NO ^^
The only way you can get charged is if you use ATT's Nav app which is $9.99 a month. Other than that it is technically impossible to be charged for GPS.
alabij said:
The only way you can get charged is if you use ATT's Nav app which is $9.99 a month. Other than that it is technically impossible to be charged for GPS.
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I think you're right. That could be it. I had AGPS disabled in the phone.
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RE: GPS, Data Plan, & Costs
I'm getting ready to buy an HTC X7501. I have a couple of questions regarding GPS. Once I buy a full GPS program like TomTom for instance, is there any cost involved in using the GPS on my X7501? For instance, does it make use of a data plan or do you need some other service to download maps?
The reason I ask is because I'm considering skipping the data plan since 90% of the time I'm in a WiFi area...
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no software is all u need ...
unless u want traffic updates
if not than the software is fine
boinger66 said:
no software is all u need ...
unless u want traffic updates
if not than the software is fine
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So are traffic updates a part of your wireless data service then?
Thanks for the reply!
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So are traffic updates a part of your wireless data service then?
Thanks for the reply!
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Yes, GPS isn't but traffic comes over GPRS (or Edge/3G/HSDPA) which is .
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Yes, GPS isn't but traffic comes over GPRS (or Edge/3G/HSDPA) which is .
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Good to know. Now I'll have to decide if I want it for the data plan. Any guess on how many MB it takes up? My guess would be that it would take up enough to make me want to go with an unlimited plan if I used it much...
Thanks again for the help.
The QuickGPS downloads are done over any available internet connection.
It could be GPRS, 3G or WiFi.
So, no, you do not need a data plan.
traffic updates for a month if you use it ONLY for that shouldnt be more than a 100MB
I find the average downloads when using traffic are 100K per hour, this is using a 15 min update interval. (This is based over a few months where I took notes of the daily downloads)
This means that 10 hours driving equates to 1MB, no more than 30MB per month - Mike
I have an unlimited data plan - the Athena cries out for one. You say you are within WiFi range most of the time , I have never used WiFi on my Athena, when I did on my Universal it drained the battery so much I gave up.
Here in the UK 3G coverage is great and HSDPA coverage is pretty good so I have connection wherever I go for less than £10/month. It does depend on cost/coverage but I'd recommend 3G/HSDPA over WiFi hen you just don't need to worry about it
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I have an unlimited data plan - the Athena cries out for one. You say you are within WiFi range most of the time , I have never used WiFi on my Athena, when I did on my Universal it drained the battery so much I gave up.
Here in the UK 3G coverage is great and HSDPA coverage is pretty good so I have connection wherever I go for less than £10/month. It does depend on cost/coverage but I'd recommend 3G/HSDPA over WiFi hen you just don't need to worry about it
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Sadly here where I live in California, we really only have one company with the coverage, AT&T. Their data plan is about $50 per month for unlimited, which is a lot. Since I can get WiFi at home and work for free, I will probably go with that and skip any data plan.
Thanks to all who replied. That gives me a much better idea of what to expect.
I have a bluetooth gps reciever but no mapping software. I don't pay for internet (just use the wifi) with t-mobile so I cannot use google maps. Does anyone know of any free mapping software that I can download to my SD card?
twflys said:
I have a bluetooth gps reciever but no mapping software. I don't pay for internet (just use the wifi) with t-mobile so I cannot use google maps. Does anyone know of any free mapping software that I can download to my SD card?
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Im not bashing in anyway, but why buy a PPC let alone a GPS reciever and not get internet? But since the post is up already, Im looking to get a reciever in the next week, im looking at the OnCourse Bluetooth GPS Receiver Edition 3
http://www.buygpsnow.com/OnCourse-Bluetooth-GPS-Receiver-Edition-3-(WAAS-enabled)_882.aspx
Anyone have any other suggestions on reciever? And any comments on GoogleMaps which is my first pick, or any other suggestions for Nav programs on a Wing with its limited storage?
Gimpy
Not freee. But i love TomTom 6.xxx
For german user it is fantastic - because streets here in germany are sooooo smalllll that you pass 5 streets in 2 minutes while driving 5MpH
Hahahahaah......
actually, I pay for t-mobile web. Which is limited internet to basically be able to just download my emails. It's $15 extra a month to upgrade to full internet. I don't really use the internet THAT much to justify it, I think.
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actually, I pay for t-mobile web. Which is limited internet to basically be able to just download my emails. It's $15 extra a month to upgrade to full internet. I don't really use the internet THAT much to justify it, I think.
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You might if you had it to use. lol
I was paying sprint $150 a month, so i went all out with Tmobile and im still like 60 bucks cheaper a month. Will the 9.99 net not get google maps to work?
Gimpy
papamopps said:
Not freee. But i love TomTom 6.xxx
For german user it is fantastic - because streets here in germany are sooooo smalllll that you pass 5 streets in 2 minutes while driving 5MpH
Hahahahaah......
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papa is tomtom a system hog tho? Is it a better match for gps with the voices and all? Can you give me any info on user impresstions?
Gimpy
9.99?? I pay 4.99 I think for the "web" application that does NOT include free internet... so, are you saying for 5 more bucks I can have FULL internet with it? Maybe I need to double check t-mobile's website.
I wish I knew the name of the BT GPS that I am using (it's at home)... However, it works great!
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9.99?? I pay 4.99 I think for the "web" application that does NOT include free internet... so, are you saying for 5 more bucks I can have FULL internet with it? Maybe I need to double check t-mobile's website.
I wish I knew the name of the BT GPS that I am using (it's at home)... However, it works great!
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When I got my wing, which wasnt long ago, I thought they had a small web package for 10 bucks. I could be wrong. I pay 40 for unlimited everything.
Gimpy
Airman Gimpy, T-mobile now offers unlimited internet for the Wing for $19.99/month. The plan is called T-Mobile Total Internet Add-on.
If your on T-Mobile US, get the T-Zones plan and setup the proxy (info all over xda-dev) then you can have internet, email, and use google maps and live search. the new google maps doesnt need a gps as they do cell based triangulation (my location) which is usuall pretty close.
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Airman Gimpy, T-mobile now offers unlimited internet for the Wing for $19.99/month. The plan is called T-Mobile Total Internet Add-on.
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I have the unlimited net with hot spots for 19.99 and then unlimited text and junk for another 14.99, so it comes out to 33.99 for my PPC package.
check out navizon.com 25$ and get wifi positioning (mock gps)
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If your on T-Mobile US, get the T-Zones plan and setup the proxy (info all over xda-dev) then you can have internet, email, and use google maps and live search. the new google maps doesnt need a gps as they do cell based triangulation (my location) which is usuall pretty close.
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pretty close is 1700 circuliar meters. Thats not close to me.
My wife and I are going to Europe for a month this summer and we would like to bring our phones to use as portable wifi devices. What is the best way to guarantee that we get no data/text messaging/phone charges?
Ideally we could just remove the sim card but I heard you can't use the device when you do this (even for wifi). Is this true even if we have sim unlocked the device? Do we have to install ADP1 for this trip to do this?
I also read that we could change the APN to something invalid and that would prevent data charges but what if someone text messages us?
Thanks
As long as your device is activated, as in you are not prompted to sign into your Google account when you turn on the phone, you will be fine. Just take the SIM out of the phone when you arrive.
you could always disable the radios. There are ways to turn off cell radios and leave wifi or even turn of data all together but leave the cell radio on.
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My wife and I are going to Europe for a month this summer and we would like to bring our phones to use as portable wifi devices. What is the best way to guarantee that we get no data/text messaging/phone charges?
Ideally we could just remove the sim card but I heard you can't use the device when you do this (even for wifi). Is this true even if we have sim unlocked the device? Do we have to install ADP1 for this trip to do this?
I also read that we could change the APN to something invalid and that would prevent data charges but what if someone text messages us?
Thanks
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There's an app on the market that lets you disable/enable your APN settings with a simple tap or two. Search for APN.
it is called APNDroid, its brilliant! Really easy to use. One click to disable APN's, click again to re-enable them!
I'm on prepaid right now so I'm trying to not use data at all. However, even with apndroid and turning off all 3g/data, I was still losing money in my prepaid account. The only thing that I could do to stop the random charges is to uninstall any apps that require internet access (last.fm, skype, etc).
Just a warning for anyone travelling - it looks like 3rd party apps can access data even if you disable it on the g1. You can google reports of people getting charged crazy amounts of roaming data charges even after turning off their data.
I had problem last month where i unlocked my g1 to use with the 3 network, worked great and i was very happy. I did not realise however that the g1 was for whatever reason using the 3g internet rather than my wifi, for some reason or another it continuously was charging me for data i thought i was getting form my wifi! over £100 the g1 cost me in that little incident.
My advice to you is either take out your sim or use the apn blocker. I would not even put your sim in when in another country!
Does anyone see any fault in this plan of mine to avoid data charges after buying the phone (I'm going to get it today or tomorrow).
The phone is already unlocked.
1) Borrow my friend's sim with a data plan. and register phone
2) Do not fill in correct APN info upon setup (so I can't be charged data)
3) Put in my sim
4) Spend 10 hours reading these forums and trying to install custom firmware/tinkering with the phone etc.
5) Download APNdroid, run it 24/7, then enjoy my dataless phone while I browse wifi all night downloading cool apps and tweaking my phone.
Sorry this is a bit later but for anyone who is looking for an asnwere to this i found one -
Here is how you turn off data service on your G1:
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1. Use Anycut to create a shortcut to "Testing"
2. Click on Testing.
3. Click on Phone Information
4. Hit Menu button
5. Click on More
6. Click on Disable data connection
This turns off all data access. Note that GPRS service switches to "disconnected".
Now you should have a phone that does voice calls, but no data access.
Wi-fi still works which is great.
try txtFeeder.com to avoid data charges
I am not sure what your planning doing with your phone, but you should try txtFeeder.com - a free mobile feed aggregator to avoid data charges. It'll let you keep up with news, weather, or whatever site you normally read, on your mobile, without paying data charges. it works really well.
try txtFeeder.com to avoid data charges
I am not sure what your planning doing with your phone, but you should try txtFeeder.com - a free mobile feed aggregator to avoid data charges. It'll let you keep up with news, weather, or whatever site you normally read, on your mobile, without paying data charges. it works really well.
I am going to be in Germany, Austria and Italy in the near future and likely won't have data (unless I can find a reasonably priced SIM with data). Are there any GPS apps for the HD2 that don't require a data plan?
Thanks in advance.
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I am going to be in Germany, Austria and Italy in the near future and likely won't have data (unless I can find a reasonably priced SIM with data). Are there any GPS apps for the HD2 that don't require a data plan?
Thanks in advance.
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there are a bunch of them. garmin,igo and more, just use that lil search button up top. and you need to turn off Agps.
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there are a bunch of them. garmin,igo and more, just use that lil search button up top. and you need to turn off Agps.
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what about turning off agps? The assisted part of AGP doesn't use any data, it just gets passively info from the GSM signal, that's all.
Also, for the top, almost every navigation software has its own maps to copy on a memory card, so you don't need to connect to online maps.
Navicomputer is not a navigation software, but more of a tracking one, and it can download maps off openstreetmap through a pc companion.
tom tom tom tom tom tom tom tom
Roaming data calls
Just in case you don't know this:
LEO somehow finds its way to make data connections no matter what you do, and it may result in the bill you don't want to see...
I haven't tried it, but people here are suggesting "Modaco nodata" as a safe solution. I would suggest you to google it, if you haven't already.
I wouldn't even risk it with a contact sim. either leave your sim at home or trial a pay as you go sim card before you leave
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I wouldn't even risk it with a contact sim. either leave your sim at home or trial a pay as you go sim card before you leave
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This is by far the smartest solution, or you can also put in a dummy SIM to avoid the "NO SIM" message.
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I wouldn't even risk it with a contact sim. either leave your sim at home or trial a pay as you go sim card before you leave
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+1 here. when I think again, everything else is experimenting.
Thanks for all the advice everyone. Much appreciated.
Use TomTom. Not data needed.
Get Dynamic+1's NoDataInRoaming. It will automatically turn off and keep off your data connection as soon as the phone starts to roam. It works great. I use it all the time when I go over the border to the Excited States.
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Use TomTom. Not data needed.
Get Dynamic+1's NoDataInRoaming. It will automatically turn off and keep off your data connection as soon as the phone starts to roam. It works great. I use it all the time when I go over the border to the Excited States.
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According to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131&page=33
it doesn't yet work with HTC HD2, until radio update. Or does it?
Been using NoData for months, works flawlessly. Just remember to re-disable any connections if you do change the SIM card.
Apparently not according to the guy who wrote it. I have a Tilt2/Rhodium and guess just assumed that it would work. Good catch. When he gets it working its a great little app.
avoid iguidance, won't work with hd2 (usa). although it worked with my tytn2.
- tom
.....i'm still searching for a product that is confirmed to work.
- tom
I know from a friend of mine it's possible to use google maps without the data connection if you download the maps on your phone/storage card (but he has an Iphone, so I am not sure if this works on the HD 2)...
And if you want to be safe to not have any data bill from abroad, you should install Mocom NoData and make an 'offline' profile on your phone, so it won't have any data server to connect too...
CoPilot
How about CoPilot Live 8? They have a link to videos posted on YouTube showing a guy running the app on an TMOUS HD2 in Washington State.
A one time fee of $30 sounds a lot better than paying TeleNav $9.99 a month.
alk dot com/copilot/#
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How about CoPilot Live 8? They have a link to videos posted on YouTube showing a guy running the app on an TMOUS HD2 in Washington State.
A one time fee of $30 sounds a lot better than paying TeleNav $9.99 a month.
alk dot com/copilot/#
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I have been using Co Pilot Live for some time now...Works great, does not require data, and not having to worry about a monthly fee is also great.
I even ran it in airplane mode to show my wife that it does not require a data signal to work (she was worried about using it on road trips)
(I was a little bugged that I had to pay another 30.00 to download it for my HD2 when I had paid 30.00 to put it on my MT3G...but it still beats having a monthly fee...my next test will be to see if I can use the same key to install it on my wifes HD2 once se gets hers)
If you travel abroad...your fees will vary as they charge per map...ex: The North America map is $30.00 and covers all of Canada, U.S. and Mexico.
I use Co-Pilot Live. Maps are downloaded to SD card. Not sure if they have European maps though.
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I am going to be in Germany, Austria and Italy in the near future and likely won't have data (unless I can find a reasonably priced SIM with data). Are there any GPS apps for the HD2 that don't require a data plan?
Thanks in advance.
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no because the device doesnt hav an independent gps built into it
I just found out today that you can be tethered to your PC and still receive and make phone calls. This is especially useful to me because I dont have internet service but use tethering for my only PC service.
edit: sorry the only reason it worked was because Hulu was buffered. I had almost a 10 min conversation while watchin tho so I was excited, but then as I thought more about it I realized it was not possable. Sorry if I got anyone hopes up.
dang you man!!!
I dont know if this is new or not, but with my previous phone (hero) i was not able to use MAPS, GPS while talking on the phone. I drove the other days using MAPS and I was talking on the phone and did not lose GPS directions.
Is that something new? Can someone confirm, cuz as far as I know, Maps uses your 3G to get directions.
It either cached its data or your are on 4g
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It either cached its data or your are on 4g
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I guess it was caching my data, but for 90 minutes? I was on the road for 3 hrs talking to my Gfriend all the time, and using gps? Are you sure? NY and NJ has no 4G yet....