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SPB MObile Shell 3.5 - anyone used this

Has anyone used this and what are your impressions compared to HTC Touch 3D. Does everything work, any problems?

I have this and find that it runs a little smoother than touchflo.

I have just started using 3.5 but have used previous versions and liked them. It's pretty smooth, and much more customizable than TouchFlo - kinda like the Android interface. (Although I have to mess with it a little more - they've changed some things since 3.0, and I can't figure out how to get some things customized the way I had them before on my Touch (vx6900).
Previous versions had a little bit of battery usage issues, but I'm having that issue anyway with my Imagio, and it doesn't seem like it's using it any more than Touch Flo was. They have a 15 day free trial, and it's worth at least trying it out...

how do I add new widgets to 3.5

just tap the bottom right hand corner "drop up" menu - add widget is in there

slumpey326 said:
Has anyone used this and what are your impressions compared to HTC Touch 3D. Does everything work, any problems?
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Not that crazy about it. It's total eye candy, which is cool, but imho it makes things unnecessarily complicated and convoluted.. Plus, there's the huge interface consistency issue that bugs the hell out of me..

Yeah its Purty!!! And very flexible but I uninstalled it after i used the 3d carousel for a minute or so lol.. I just needed to see what it looked like in 3d since I didnt have that option on my omnia. its one of those things where it all depends on what you need your phone to be.. for some its just right, others too much and for many not enough.. mainly because SPB doesnt open it up to the community enough.. it definately does not have as much OS integration as touchflo..

Why does Sense eat RAM - Novembre build fastest?

Have now tried to live with ffboy and aragon's Sense Builds - and have found the phone virtually unsuable. Actually Novembre's version 3 is my favourite - keeps some of the Tosh stuff and in particular all the input options are there.
Only snag - Novembre's phone looks very sad at the moment. Best of luck from London with our fascinating election!

TONYKENT said:
Have now tried to live with ffboy and aragon's Sense Builds - and have found the phone virtually unsuable. Actually Novembre's version 3 is my favourite - keeps some of the Tosh stuff and in particular all the input options are there.
Only snag - Novembre's phone looks very sad at the moment. Best of luck from London with our fascinating election!
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Possibly innefficient use of graphics maybe, i can't see a reason for its size, compare it to SPB Mobile Shell for example. Actually i tried it and went back to Novembre5's other releases, i found manila on tg01 to be a bit slow, and a lack of familiarity with it made me decide to go back

I also found there were quite a few of the sense features that didnt work for me eg the weather and the weather wallpaper on the homescreen. I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.

strike-down said:
I also found there were quite a few of the sense features that didnt work for me eg the weather and the weather wallpaper on the homescreen. I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.
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Try FFBoy v1.0 ROM because it's very fast too...

strike-down said:
I also found there were quite a few of the sense features that didnt work for me eg the weather and the weather wallpaper on the homescreen. I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.
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The aragon rom with a couple of simple tweaks works perfectly... yes it eats ram but considering that I don´t need to install many things to make it look gorgeous in all aspects, I didn´t notice that lack of rom at all! Indeed I have the weather working perfectly with animations and managed to change the wallpaper in sense tabs... it's beatifull now... and best of all.. everything made to work on htc devices only, works on tg01 also!
I never used sense before or anyother htc stuff so it took me a while to managed to understand its way of work, but now I see it's far better than spm mobile shell or anyother UI
Recomend it

strike-down said:
I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.
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I once used spb in my old LG KS20 and battery life was horrible, it sucked it's juice in one day when my phone used to keep going for at least three days. I reckon using spb shell in tg01 your battery lasts for...?
Still waiting for my mugen 1300mah...

Jonous said:
I once used spb in my old LG KS20 and battery life was horrible, it sucked it's juice in one day when my phone used to keep going for at least three days. I reckon using spb shell in tg01 your battery lasts for...?
Still waiting for my mugen 1300mah...
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Your right... I had spb mobile shell on my tg01 and the battery duration was horrible!!! I thought the battery was dead... but now with sense it lasts much longer... anyway I'm wayting for mugen 1300 also

gluonyc said:
The aragon rom with a couple of simple tweaks works perfectly... yes it eats ram but considering that I don´t need to install many things to make it look gorgeous in all aspects, I didn´t notice that lack of rom at all! Indeed I have the weather working perfectly with animations and managed to change the wallpaper in sense tabs... it's beatifull now... and best of all.. everything made to work on htc devices only, works on tg01 also!
I never used sense before or anyother htc stuff so it took me a while to managed to understand its way of work, but now I see it's far better than spm mobile shell or anyother UI
Recomend it
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how did you change the wallpaper on the tabs?
i tried hqwallpaper cab but nothing.
if you could pm me with a link or something i would be a happy little elf

Spb mobile or HTC Sence?

So I really love HTC sense how it it looks and how its suppose to perform but i notice its buggy as hell especially with sms and music I dont want to flash my HD2 since Im just going to start flashing my phone every time their a new rom. Now im using spb mobile and seems to make the hd2 less buggy but its horrible looking its like having a nexus one with little widgets and not attractive at all in my opinion and spb mobile its like putting 3 or 4 layers of things on top of windows that makes it feel weird. I wanted to know what you guys use sense or spb mobile windows 6.5 home screen or the old 6.1 looking screen and whats more stable to you thanks?

i love sense for its integration and looks ie. weather and clocks... lol
love spb mobile shell for its speed customizing and stability
Try mobile shell with mskips wp7 theme LIGHTNING FAST

I don't like spb shell as much as I like Sense.
I tried it with Android theme, and the mskips wp7 theme, but I just don't like it.
spb does have the unlimited customization options, so in that aspect it's great, but Sense is nearly perfect for me in terms of eye candy and usability.

Does SPB shell support 6.5.x?

well i think im going back to sence i notice during a call with spb you cant open the keypad to press a number. good thing i didnt pay for it.

josemedina1983 said:
well i think im going back to sence i notice during a call with spb you cant open the keypad to press a number. good thing i didnt pay for it.
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Yes you can, don't remember how since i am not using it now till v5 comes out but i know that you can. I think its a "Keypad" button.

I was running the full/paid spb mobile shell along with Naong's Sense HERO theme on top of it. liked it a lot and it was running very snappy/smooth.
however, since i upgraded my sd card to a class 6, lagging has stopped and only dealing with the sms lagging issue for now. i have since switched back to original htc sense ui.

donalgodon said:
Does SPB shell support 6.5.x?
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yes at least mskips wp7

Try Darkness 231's switcher
Darkness 231 has done a switcher application which I picked up from XDA developers. He has done a very good job, and thanks to him I can switch between Sense and SPB with a single press.
cab file attached here.
May Darkness and other good guys on the XDA site be blessed.

I take the the last comment back it was something I installed that wouldnt let use the number keypad or the touch screen when i was on a call. I had to do a hard reset and reinstall the apps again. It was my fault for installing apps i dont need just because they were free. lol im using htc sence ima give it a try again if it craps out on me ill just go back to spb shell

ajitlimaye said:
Darkness 231 has done a switcher application which I picked up from XDA developers. He has done a very good job, and thanks to him I can switch between Sense and SPB with a single press.
cab file attached here.
May Darkness and other good guys on the XDA site be blessed.
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thanks Ill give this a try I love trying new stuff lol.

josemedina1983 said:
I take the the last comment back it was something I installed that wouldnt let use the number keypad or the touch screen when i was on a call. I had to do a hard reset and reinstall the apps again. It was my fault for installing apps i dont need just because they were free. lol im using htc sence ima give it a try again if it craps out on me ill just go back to spb shell
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Did you have BSB Tweaks installed? It has an option called "Tap Time" which is known to screw with the phone screen and make the buttons not respond.

ajitlimaye said:
Darkness 231 has done a switcher application which I picked up from XDA developers. He has done a very good job, and thanks to him I can switch between Sense and SPB with a single press.
cab file attached here.
May Darkness and other good guys on the XDA site be blessed.
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what a fantastic app, nice one for sharing mate !!!

ajitlimaye said:
Darkness 231 has done a switcher application which I picked up from XDA developers. He has done a very good job, and thanks to him I can switch between Sense and SPB with a single press.
cab file attached here.
May Darkness and other good guys on the XDA site be blessed.
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Thanks for the cab file

I like SPB but it seems too simple. I like how customizable sense is. I think alot depends on what your liking is what you intend to do with your phone.

I use SPB Mobile Shell and my wife uses Sense. Too each his own.

the free version is a little hard to get used to,I have a problem switching back and forth

SPB mobile shell
MobileSense - Espresso Mod will give you sense looks.
I like it because you can have your task list on the screen and it is very fast and stable.

SPB Mobile Shell for me. Not as much eye-candy, but has much more practicality and utility in getting where I need to fast without having to plow-through all the visual aesthetics nonsense of Sense.
Not a single freeze/lock-up so far using SPB Mobile Shell and disabling Sense.

PoisonWolf said:
SPB Mobile Shell for me. Not as much eye-candy, but has much more practicality and utility in getting where I need to fast without having to plow-through all the visual aesthetics nonsense of Sense.
Not a single freeze/lock-up so far using SPB Mobile Shell and disabling Sense.
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I must concur with this post.

What's your opinion on this phone

Hey guys i was wondering how everyone likes their hd2 because i have a mytouch slide but this guy is willing to trade his hd2 for it and i know nothing about winmobile. Is it good i heard a lot of bad rumors about winmobile so just want some input from people who actually own this phone thanks.
Sent from my super badass rooted slide that all the chicks love

I wont lie. I never really liked the phone until after I flashed it. There were to many freezes and to me the start menu looked plain. I know the new tmobile rom fixed some issues but a custom really did the trick for me. Now, I don't think android could really satisfy me like windows mobile does. So, if you're not willing to flash I wouldn't trade.
What do you like best about the mytouch slide? I'm actually interseted in getting one cuz I miss having a real keyboard.

The keyboard is the best on this phone its actually fast as hell and the camera with flash is nice my only problem is there is only like two people deving for it so there arnt a whole lot of roms to choses from thats why im thinking about trading it.
sent from my super badass rooted slide that all the chicks love

jriv said:
The keyboard is the best on this phone its actually fast as hell and the camera with flash is nice my only problem is there is only like two people deving for it so there arnt a whole lot of roms to choses from thats why im thinking about trading it.
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I'll tell you this much. The worst thing about the HD2 is it's keyboard. I don't care what anyone says its impossible for me to get use to it. Fortunately, the amount of the support for the phone is awesome. And I love that I can play avi movies, use as a wifi router, and customize everything about the phone. There is a lack of support on the Microsoft market but almost everything can be found on xda or the net if you look hard enough. The one app i need is an age calculator for the hd2, which I'm convinced does not exist. If I were you I'd keep the mytouch and buy an HD2 off craigslist. I believe they're running about $250, which isn't bad.
Edit: Just found an age calculator. It's very plain jane but it's exactly what I need for work. http://uploaded.to/file/5m2co3/age-calculator.1.0.CAB

I would go for the HD2 as long as it hasn't been abused. I would play with it as much as possible before making the trade to make sure. As has been already stated the HD2 really shines when you flash the ROM. Since you rooted your slide I am guessing you wouldn't be shy about that. My wife is using the latest Tmous ROM though and is happy with the phone. If you end up absolutely hating WM you might not be stuck as Android for the HD2 is moving along fairly quickly. I am perfectly fine with WM so I don't see a problem. The only downside to the trade could be non-comparable battery life and that the HD2 doesn't have a hardware keyboard. For me the soft keyboard + swype is considerably better than a hardware keyboard. Run to a Tmo store a try it out if you are on the fence, just make sure you try out swype when you do.

The Htc Leo is a beast it's the Godfather of Wm 6.5 phones!

Stock the phone is ok but a touch buggy. Replace the stock rom with Energy or another custom rom and your in hog heaven running 10 times more stable then Android or iOS. Now that being said if your used to Android or iOS, WiMo is way way different. Its like a real computer crossed with a phone, you will need to download cabs manually to install software. There are a couple markets but nothign like apple or droid. But if you search the internet theirs actually 10's or thousands more apps made for wimo then either of the other OS's just because wimo's been around a decade. Ok after all that wimo is a business phone, if you plan on needing FTP, HTML editing, GPS apps, WORD, excel, streaming TV, streaming radio, or doing anything "hardcore" on your phone wimo is your only option. Its just quite a curve. People have gotten spoiled with all the new OS's that do everything for you and lock oyu out of everything. Then they come over to a wimo where everything is open and you have to go find everything and some have issues, they juts wanna click a button adn be done.
I also agree with DECIM8 , the virtual KB is far superior to a real phone KB. Especially swype. I can actually use that. I have mutated thumbs where one is short and fat, the other is long and slender so my thumbs suck for phone typing. But with swype I can use my index finger and just fly through words.

The slide comes with swype as well so its nice. But the keyboard is so spaced out on the slide its so nice the only downfall is just the lack of support everyone is tryng to sell theirs to get the vibrant or the nexus one so it kinda feels like the phone is outdated already
sent from my super badass rooted slide that all the chicks love

The most thing i like hd2 is the potential to run other OS such as: android, linux or even window mobile 7

take a lot of getting used to for WM users and even more fro those new to windows mobile, im still on stock rom and have been ok so far, i wont flash until ive experienced the real problems

Speed increase is worth flashing alone. I picked up about 50% more speed and smoothness with the custom roms over stock.

ddgarcia05 said:
I'll tell you this much. The worst thing about the HD2 is it's keyboard. I don't care what anyone says its impossible for me to get use to it.
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I agree about the virtual keyboard. Swipe works only when you hold the phone in one hand upright and use the index finger of your dominant hand. It's not a very natural typing position, especially if you're used to using your thumbs. I don't know what it is about the virtual keyboard, but it is impossible to type a message quickly without mangling up the entire thing with errors (even in xd9 mode).

has any one came over from android and if so what do you think
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Love the visibility of the screen.
Sense is nice, but not geared for those of us who need a lot of links to files on our devices.
Selection sensitivity of the screen was horrendous out of the box. I flashed Spikegotti's Unoff 23127 ROM and that helped alot, both with the sensivity and overall performance of the device.
It is very fast indeed, I think I'm going to like the Snapdragon processor a lot.
I installed Spb Mobile Shell 3.5.5 and I have to say that between that and Spike's ROM, it improves the device, for me, to the point where I'll use it as my daily phone. That being said, the capacitive screen is going to take some time to get used to. It is not really geared toward selecting small things on the screen, such as individual cells in Excel, especially when they are links.
The keyboard is OK. I am not really a fan of HW keyboards. If the QWERTY KB allowed for customization (ie remapping of keys), and over time I could get used to placing my fingers exactly so to get the key I want, I could grow to love it. But without the customization if is just OK. Also, in landscape it takes too much of the screen in some apps.
I've installed Gyrator2 after trying several other rotation apps. It makes the HD2 much more useful for reading and research of the documentation I rely on.
Radio reception seems to be as good for me, in my locales as the TP2. HTC has come a long way in that. My Nokias do not do any better than them anymore.
Is it perfect? NO. Is it as close to perfect as my TP2? In most ways yes, and in some ways it is closer. Do I regret my purchase? No, but I'm not giving up my TP2 yet either, just in case.

All right looks like tomorrow im doing the trade im really nervouse about leaving android
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I would do the trade assuming the HD2 is in good condition and works fine. Winmo doesn't feel as refined as android and imo isn't as good of an OS BUT, the HD2 has tons of support and you can already run android on it fairly well and things are moving very very fast here. I would expect a fully functional android rom for the HD2 pretty soon. The phone can also run ubuntu (though still in beta stages here too) and has potential for windows phone 7.
The hardware also blows the mytouch slide out of the water.

The hardware is key for me just because all the developers are skipping the slide in favor of the vibrant or nexus one
Sent from my super cool slide that im trading for a hopefully cool hd2

I was using Milestone before picking up an hd2, and The hd2 is just awesome even if it's running wm 6.5.

jriv said:
has any one came over from android and if so what do you think
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Came from a MT3G rooted. The hardware certainly flies compared to my previous phone and an iPhone 3g. The things I missed most are the pull-down notification bar, gmail integration (Android Gmail App), and the app market.
Yes, you can do just about anything and everything with the HD2 as people have already stated. Overall you will get a more "PC" like experience with this phone versus a "Touch-Optimized" experience like Android or iOS. The UI will scare you in a lot of aspects once you discover the WinMO underlinings, and the apps that you will find. If you don't mind asthetics, then this won't be so much a problem for you as it was for me.
As always, it comes down to what you are using it for, and what you expect from your phone.

What to update every one so I did the trade and tried windows for a bit just wasn't my thing but this phone runs android like a beast
sent from my hd2 running android froyo!

HTC Sense

I notice there are a few different ROM's for the DHD, some with Sense some without.
Whats the actual difference, does Sence in some way slow the phone down?
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
So, are there advantages to running a more vanilla android version with some widgets over the sense style ROMs.
I am on mike1986's Android Revolution.

I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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Trig0r said:
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
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If you root the phone using VISIONary+ you can delete/rename the Lockscreen.apk I believe and it will return to the vanilla lockscreen. As for jazzy widgets that's a Sense thing, unless you buy and install LauncherPro over ADW.Launcher, LauncherPro has People, Bookmarks, Calaendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook & Friends widgets that can be used. There is also music widget control using Cyanogen.
I find sense slow and garish, it slows down the phone for no good reason, ASOP ROMs are much lighter and look, IMO, much prettier and unique.

jokies said:
I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.

i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water

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i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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People like the simplicity of Cyanogen. Sense slows even the DHD down, it's aweful. And to boot pretty much everyone with an Android phone has it. It's better to be unique.

you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others

rosswaa said:
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.

rosswaa said:
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Point well made.
I really can't notice nay slow down due to Sense whatsoever. I really do think that someone should clearly "sell" the advantages of dumping Sense, other than just plain old enthusiasm for hacking something. I think it is more down to aesthetics than anything else. Try other ROMs and see if you like them, you might. I like the fact that HTC have at least tried to add value to Android.
A further irony is having come from the Magic I can vouch for the fact that much effort was put into porting Sense to that plain Android phone.
Sorry, no lag when I scroll my SMS or App drawer. The DHD can definitely deal with the demands of Sense.

Sense is pretty cool and only lags if you try to make it. I think that if all Android phones came with Cyanogen as the stock ROM then the Sense ROM would be a massive hit. Cyanogen is definitely a good choice because it's clean and fast but until i actually need my Desire HD to run faster and more efficiently i won't use it. That's why i will go sort of halfway and flash a cooked sense based ROM like Leedroid.

Kalavere said:
Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not

sHaHiN786 said:
I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
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I have to admit I didn't try it out on desire hd but I tried it when I'm with a hero. Say, cyan is for dev and sense is for users. Whatever you get what you want.
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rosswaa said:
look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.

If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?

eozen81 said:
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.

Kalavere said:
You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?

eozen81 said:
Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Not that, I know of. Sense Copy & Paste is one of them, there is no magnification window when you copy and paste on the DHD, and the louder ring, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Kalavere said:
Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
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lol who said it had to be standard? sense comes with to much bloatware, so i remove most of it
have you tried this theme addon? http://classical-gas.blogspot.com/2010/12/jamt-htc-desire-cyanogenmod-610rc2.html
works real nice i have cyan set up alight atm but hopefuly not long till the ginger comes along

I am back on a sense rom. Rcmixhd since adfree and other components work correctly unlike on the other sense roms I've tried. I used to love Cyanogen on my Nexus One but the new sense is very slick indeed.
It does not lag. It does take a little longer to boot and use more memory but who cares when we have so much ram on the dhd. I don't know how the amount of room it takes can be an issue either considering we have 1.5gb rom. I still have 0.9gb free with 54 apps installed.
tbh I still love cyanogenmod but its htc locations which is keeping me on sense. Its the best android offline navigator I've tried in terms of routing here in New zealand and I love the fact I can just buy a cheap 1 month subscription for navigation in another country when I go overseas. Any other app one is forced to buy a complete package for that country at considerably larger cost.
Sent from my Desire HD

I really don't like the Sense launcher, I use adw, but sense has lots of little modifications that are just nice to have. Text selection, quick lookup, freaking awesome dialer, flip to speaker etc
I'm running android revolution hd, no lags, excellent battery (whole day with pretty heavy use. Needs charging every night but I can use all the phones features as much as I like and not give the battery a second thought) also 2400 in quadrant. So all in all i really rate sense.