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[APP] SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 demo video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2AOukFSz5o
-widgets
-flexible engine (open development of widgets?)
-hardware accelaration support (will my mogul run faster?)
-facebook integrated into contacts!
-multiple home pages
-professional and lifestyle (huh?) layout
-kinetic scrolling
-fully customizable (themes supported?)
This can tide everyone over until 6.5! Way better than TouchFlo (IMO).

Amazing
Looks Amazing. Hmm Should I get ready to remove Manilla 2D off my Omina?

Way better than TouchFlo (IMO).
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Not if SPB hasn't really done away with the standard Today screen. One of the reasons I didn't switch over to 2.0 was the fact that the Mobile Shell home screen did not replace the today screen. I know there's an XDA hack for that functionality, but MS 3.0 should take lesson from PointUI and replace today completely.

this looks awesome.

their standard/default themes always sucked. and somehow 3.0 looks just like 2.0 just with a little tune up..hmm...after all this announcements im a little bit disappointed.

was it announced when this would be available?

Uffff I think i would use this for sure!!! need a release date...

I am a little dissapointed. When I heard about Facebook integration, for some reason I was thinking of the ability to use chat, change status, etc... instead it is just a way to get the profile photo to the contact in your address book. Bummer.

I agree. Not much better than the current version. Should've integrated a few apps would've made it more useful. new version of mobile shell might make current skin invalid too.

So this is basically the same, but a little "upgraded." By not changing the overall idea at all, the same reasons I dont use 2 will be the same reasons I dont use 3. I was expecting so much more with the hype. PointUI kills this. Kills. When will they learn, keep it simple, make it customizable. Oh well.

It looks ok but PointUI didn't do anything for me either so I'll stick with my TF3D till either is truely better.

Glad to see they're trying something new since TouchFLO pretty much made me stop using Mobile Shell as it did what I needed, and it came with my OS, rather than having to install something on top.

friguy33 said:
So this is basically the same, but a little "upgraded." By not changing the overall idea at all, the same reasons I dont use 2 will be the same reasons I dont use 3. I was expecting so much more with the hype. PointUI kills this. Kills. When will they learn, keep it simple, make it customizable. Oh well.
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Since when is PointUI customizable? I have used it and there is not customization built into it.
Any idea on when the beta of SPB3 will be out?

Do we realy need a second topic with the same questions and wishes?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483632

A much better video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fBRUwOYUM&feature=channel

JukEboXAuDiO, you seriously must be joking right! Pointui Home not customizable? Is being able to replace every graphic in the app, being the only UI with scripting support to allow you to build all sorts of applets and things, and being able to customize the background through the entire app not quite enough customization for you? Or are you referring to the old version released 12 mths ago?

Is WM6.5 worth upgrading to?

Hi,
I've been using Jack V3.x medium for the past few weeks. The ROM has been brilliant apart from a few issues with TF3D lag (although i gather that this is a universal TF3D problem) and overall i am quite happy with it.
Jack V3.x is not based on WM6.5 however, unlike some other ROM's that have been popping up in the ROM development forum. From what i've been reading WM6.5 is only an incremental upgrade to 6.1 and so i am left wondering: Is it worthwhile to upgrade to WM6.5 now, bugs and all, or to wait for a few months before upgrading so all the bugs get wrinkled out? Also, what WM6.5 ROM would people recommend upgrading to?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. The factors that would make me want to upgrade are things like improved functionality, faster speed, clearer UI, etc.

Well I am using gtrabs ROM and so far I am really liking it. It is pretty fast, no bugs or crashes, and the interface is clean. I have kinda got a bit tired of TouchFlo3D so I wanted something different. I would say give it a go....

itje's 6.5 RC1 is what I'm on, if you disable threaded messaging it works probably better than official 6.1 roms did for me. Its faster, scrolling is much much better, looks nicer, and has titanium which i really get on with.

yes .

definitely worth it.
Interface upgrades, ram usage isn't up that much, it's a lot smoother.
using gtrab's rom right now, it's so quick when browsing windows in file explorer.
battery life has somewhat improved, strangely enough.

I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1. While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined. I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!

DavidMc0 said:
I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1 . While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined . I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!
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You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
TITANIUM is a Ferrari, tOUCH! Flo is a school bus: big, heavy and slooooow...
Just my 2 cents, MHO of course

Definately a YES. All I need to do now is to choose one. LOL. I am new to this as well, so a bit worried in losing my waranty if anything happens.

gtrab said:
You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
TITANIUM is a Ferrari, tOUCH! Flo is a school bus: big, heavy and slooooow...
Just my 2 cents, MHO of course
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I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded

Comparisons are always subjective. I quite like the clean interface of Titanium and got bored of TouchFlo. I may get bored of Titanium and go to SPB Mobile Shell etc.
One thing you need to remember is that WinMo 6.5 (and the R3A ROM) are still in Beta so some may get bugs and some may not. FTR I am using gtrabs ROM and so far it is very good and I think it will be a keeper for me until the proper version comes out (i.e. no beta).
Apart from having to reload your programs there is no harm in giving it a try - if you don't like it you can go back to a 6.1....

Yes, I think you must try Gtrab's WM6.5 ROM...It plays with speed. I've tested another 4 WM6.5 ROMs, and finally i go back to Gtrab's one and said Wow! for his Rom.

DavidMc0 said:
I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded
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I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!

Thanks for all of your replies.. i'll put on WM6.5 to test out now. I like your confidence gtrab, so i'll be puting on your barebone version first .
Oh, and regarding your questions in your last post: I am a fan of TF3D only because it adds a lot of usability that the default WinMo 6.1 lacks on its own. It also looks good and gives me all the information i need in an easy-to-access manner. If there was an alternative that maybe wasn't as good looking but had functionality and more importantly was fast and hopefully free then i'd be happy to move over to it (The PointUI panel was brilliant, but the lack of a large-font clock was a downer).
And as for why i bought an Xperia.. Well, mainly because i accidentally dunked my last phone in a cup of scalding hot tea . When looking around for new phones i liked what i saw in the Xperia reviews and so here i am. The phone itself is brilliant, apart from its default OS and panels. In theory they sounded great but in practice i didnt like the associated lag (on vanilla OS, at least) with it when switching from one panel to another. Still, it may be time to try them out again.
Ok, i'm off to flash a rom or two .

gtrab said:
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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Because w/ X1, we have a choice to pick panel and/or TF3D. Not the other way around since no others devices are able to run Panel stable.
OKOK, I admitted I would have a hard time to pick X1 or HD if HD fully support USA's 3G. ;p

gtrab said:
I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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In the end, yes, you need to use what suits you.
1) Why upgrade to 6.5? Well, how would I know I preferred TF3D if I didn't try 6.5? And why not try something new? - it could be better, and I will keep trying new things, as the current TF3D will not be the best forever!
2) The Xperia runs TF3D perfectly well, and I knew this, so this did not put me off buying the Xperia. Also, hardware comes into it - the Xperia was my only real option, as nothing else (that's worth having) has WVGA screen and hardware keyboard.
While a lot of this is subjective, not all of it is. For example, the amount of useful space for an applet on TF3D compared to Titanium:
You can do much more with this space, e.g. calendar & music player.
If I had more time I'm sure I could show some of the objective advantages to TF3D, but I don't, he he! But I guess, even if one is actually better and more efficient, if you prefer the other one, then that's the one for you to use
And regarding the media panel, when I tried it, it seemed great, but when I changed back to default panel the music stopped - is this normal? I'd use it if I was able to run the music in the background while browsing the web & doing texts!
It's great we get such a choice on these phones, thanks to XDA dev!

Does anyone else miss the old Rosie.apk?

I haven't really seen much mentioned about it, so maybe I'm more bothered by it than you guys, but the newest Hero leak's rosie is missing the ability to grab the thing at the bottom and quickly flip through all the screens. Seems kinda ironic to start calling it TouchFLO after you take out the part that makes it touch flow!
To me, that's one of the things that made it so sweet. With out it, its just another 7 screen home (minus the fact that you get the widgets with it and all). Using 6 swipes to flip through your home is annoying as hell.
But that aside, it still is (for the most part) the same speed as the beta version (when ported to the G1, that is), and still has no landscape mode. Taking those in to consideration, you basically have the same thing, but with one less feature.
HTC you f'ed up.
Sorry, I needed to rant.

I also find my self missing that feature.
Oh well, you can't have everything.

lol only thing I miss is the reliability of all other ROM's not Rosie related....

I think JACHero 2.3.3 is the best ROM which is out atm.
Rosie is useable, and really, I never used this thing at the bottom, it was too fast.
I only use 3 of the 7 hoemscreen:
The middle one for icons and 2 toogles.
Middle-left for WeatherWidget
Middle-right for Bookmarks widget.
That's all. And with this configuration, Rosie works really fluently.

SolemnWishing said:
lol only thing I miss is the reliability of all other ROM's not Rosie related....
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Pretty much this.

Some thoughts and opinions about TF3D please :)

Ive been thinking about TF3D and its negatives and positives about and want to see what you think and have to say
The "people" list, aka the tf3d contact list just plain sucks IMO, too damn big font for my taste, totaly nullifies the use of a big screen and I cant find the function to sort after company or use as the regular contact list can which makes it totally usable for me :/
The SMS function that is combined with the user is good in someways but I hardly ever use it, also way too big, is it just me that have good eyesight or is everything with TF3D just damn big? IMO we have a big screen to see lots of stuff, not just make them bigger and prettier... >_<
The built in music player in tf3d is pretty.. but PocketPlayer just pwnz it totally IMO, so much better features and possibilites with PP, one of the first apps I bought when I got my Touch HD
That are the negatives I come to think of now, I know there are more... but TF3D becomes better and better so maybe some of it will not be negative for me
Positive stuff is ofcourse that its pretty, smooth easy to use interface, beats most other standard WM GUIs, atleast all I have tried
There are no GUIs for WM that is more like Android? I dont know much about Android phones but what from I have seen it really seems more customizable and you can move to different desktops with different wallpapers and different functions and apps?

TSF Shell available on Market!

Does any of you already have TSF Shell? I myself have it and it's probably the greatest launcher ever made. It doesn't lag at all, lots of functions. I was so surprised. It is available for 12.50$. It's definately a must have!
I was also really surprised how good it works on Desire HD.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tsf.shell

It is 17.00$/12.50€.
Not really worth it right now in my opinion.
Less fantastic than in the video, few things are missing.
Takes some getting used to since you can't swap between the home screens.
The lasso thing isn't really doing it for me since the 'gather' option isn't available.
Plus, once you have a nice arrangement of your apps and stuff, you better watch out not to accidentally lasso it and press arrange.
Also, re-sizing widgets doesn't work for me? Pretty annoying.
And the video had nicer looking icons but that doesn't really bother me.

they probably just hurried and released the launcher asap, and now just constantly update the launcher with all the missing bits, according to user experience

I wouldn't worry about missing functionality, that will be added quickly. I really like the concept, but it has some flaws in basic functionality - like changing home screens and lasso which is used only rarely until you setup the shell... also, no sounds when you press icons/folders... player widget displays SONGS individualy which is silly - it would be better to display artists or albums... etc etc... Pretty cool and smooth but basic functionality is missing... he better concentrate on basic functionality than on eye-candy....

markslo112 said:
Does any of you already have TSF Shell? I myself have it and it's probably the greatest launcher ever made. It doesn't lag at all, lots of functions. I was so surprised. It is available for 12.50$. It's definately a must have!
I was also really surprised how good it works on Desire HD.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tsf.shell
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Did you made it your self ore what?
Just not that grate.. more funktionality before i use it as daily drive...

The launcher is just missing a few features.
What I'm missing most is just a Settings function.
I mean, the lasso is awesome if you're setting up your 4 screens but after that it's annoying.
There should be a mode where lasso is disabled and you can swipe through the home screens.
Also, when I lasso like 15 apps and select Arrange or something, it jumbles them all up in an order I don't like.
It's great that you can turn apps and put them anywhere you like, but for some screens I prefer if they're all neatly lined out, which is a pain to do by hand because it enlarges the icon when you hold it a few seconds.

Kinda sucks, but that's just my opinion though.

djolebih said:
Kinda sucks, but that's just my opinion though.
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It is pretty good once you get used to it, but it needs some adjustments.
IMO, looks are simply awesome but functionality is a C at the moment.