Hi,
I've been using Jack V3.x medium for the past few weeks. The ROM has been brilliant apart from a few issues with TF3D lag (although i gather that this is a universal TF3D problem) and overall i am quite happy with it.
Jack V3.x is not based on WM6.5 however, unlike some other ROM's that have been popping up in the ROM development forum. From what i've been reading WM6.5 is only an incremental upgrade to 6.1 and so i am left wondering: Is it worthwhile to upgrade to WM6.5 now, bugs and all, or to wait for a few months before upgrading so all the bugs get wrinkled out? Also, what WM6.5 ROM would people recommend upgrading to?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. The factors that would make me want to upgrade are things like improved functionality, faster speed, clearer UI, etc.
Well I am using gtrabs ROM and so far I am really liking it. It is pretty fast, no bugs or crashes, and the interface is clean. I have kinda got a bit tired of TouchFlo3D so I wanted something different. I would say give it a go....
itje's 6.5 RC1 is what I'm on, if you disable threaded messaging it works probably better than official 6.1 roms did for me. Its faster, scrolling is much much better, looks nicer, and has titanium which i really get on with.
yes .
definitely worth it.
Interface upgrades, ram usage isn't up that much, it's a lot smoother.
using gtrab's rom right now, it's so quick when browsing windows in file explorer.
battery life has somewhat improved, strangely enough.
I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1. While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined. I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!
DavidMc0 said:
I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1 . While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined . I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!
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You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
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Just my 2 cents, MHO of course
Definately a YES. All I need to do now is to choose one. LOL. I am new to this as well, so a bit worried in losing my waranty if anything happens.
gtrab said:
You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
TITANIUM is a Ferrari, tOUCH! Flo is a school bus: big, heavy and slooooow...
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I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded
Comparisons are always subjective. I quite like the clean interface of Titanium and got bored of TouchFlo. I may get bored of Titanium and go to SPB Mobile Shell etc.
One thing you need to remember is that WinMo 6.5 (and the R3A ROM) are still in Beta so some may get bugs and some may not. FTR I am using gtrabs ROM and so far it is very good and I think it will be a keeper for me until the proper version comes out (i.e. no beta).
Apart from having to reload your programs there is no harm in giving it a try - if you don't like it you can go back to a 6.1....
Yes, I think you must try Gtrab's WM6.5 ROM...It plays with speed. I've tested another 4 WM6.5 ROMs, and finally i go back to Gtrab's one and said Wow! for his Rom.
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I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded
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I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
Thanks for all of your replies.. i'll put on WM6.5 to test out now. I like your confidence gtrab, so i'll be puting on your barebone version first .
Oh, and regarding your questions in your last post: I am a fan of TF3D only because it adds a lot of usability that the default WinMo 6.1 lacks on its own. It also looks good and gives me all the information i need in an easy-to-access manner. If there was an alternative that maybe wasn't as good looking but had functionality and more importantly was fast and hopefully free then i'd be happy to move over to it (The PointUI panel was brilliant, but the lack of a large-font clock was a downer).
And as for why i bought an Xperia.. Well, mainly because i accidentally dunked my last phone in a cup of scalding hot tea . When looking around for new phones i liked what i saw in the Xperia reviews and so here i am. The phone itself is brilliant, apart from its default OS and panels. In theory they sounded great but in practice i didnt like the associated lag (on vanilla OS, at least) with it when switching from one panel to another. Still, it may be time to try them out again.
Ok, i'm off to flash a rom or two .
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2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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Because w/ X1, we have a choice to pick panel and/or TF3D. Not the other way around since no others devices are able to run Panel stable.
OKOK, I admitted I would have a hard time to pick X1 or HD if HD fully support USA's 3G. ;p
gtrab said:
I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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In the end, yes, you need to use what suits you.
1) Why upgrade to 6.5? Well, how would I know I preferred TF3D if I didn't try 6.5? And why not try something new? - it could be better, and I will keep trying new things, as the current TF3D will not be the best forever!
2) The Xperia runs TF3D perfectly well, and I knew this, so this did not put me off buying the Xperia. Also, hardware comes into it - the Xperia was my only real option, as nothing else (that's worth having) has WVGA screen and hardware keyboard.
While a lot of this is subjective, not all of it is. For example, the amount of useful space for an applet on TF3D compared to Titanium:
You can do much more with this space, e.g. calendar & music player.
If I had more time I'm sure I could show some of the objective advantages to TF3D, but I don't, he he! But I guess, even if one is actually better and more efficient, if you prefer the other one, then that's the one for you to use
And regarding the media panel, when I tried it, it seemed great, but when I changed back to default panel the music stopped - is this normal? I'd use it if I was able to run the music in the background while browsing the web & doing texts!
It's great we get such a choice on these phones, thanks to XDA dev!
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I opened this thread because i really want to know what you other guys think about the new visual changes of WM 6.5. I personally think they are ugly and there is very little innovation in it. so basically most of things are increased in size ...When i saw for the frst time the mods i thought they were done by some registry change. if you compare it what HTC has done graphically is very very little i think. MS wants to make wm finger friendly by increasing the size of the graphic objects and dont care even if they look well or are aligned.
opinios are welcome
Agh who cares about the standard 6.5 home screen, everone has TouchFlo anyway...which is waaay better
i think 6.5 home is sexy, especially with the few themes made by some devs here on xda, i cant wait til seus give us 6.5(thats if)
i like the titanium home screen much more than TouchFlo
well the home wasnt my point actually i mean those new windows and those giant notifications ... sooo ugly ...
informatico said:
well the home wasnt my point actually i mean those new windows and those giant notifications ... sooo ugly ...
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I agree with you, I thought that was a bug with my rom or it wasn't 'cooked' properly. I think MS have a long way to go to match the IPhone and various other touch phone interfaces.
hatski said:
match the IPhone and various other touch phone interfaces.
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Why? .
I think you guys are expecting WM7 features to be in WM6.5. That's just not the case. What I've seen (in the betas) isn't bad, but, definitely does not compete with next-gen smartphone OS'es (yet). I wouldn't judge WM6.5 until it is released.
I think the eye-candy element is only part of making a GUI and OS great. What else helps is refinement, speed and stability.
Has anyone used this and what are your impressions compared to HTC Touch 3D. Does everything work, any problems?
I have this and find that it runs a little smoother than touchflo.
I have just started using 3.5 but have used previous versions and liked them. It's pretty smooth, and much more customizable than TouchFlo - kinda like the Android interface. (Although I have to mess with it a little more - they've changed some things since 3.0, and I can't figure out how to get some things customized the way I had them before on my Touch (vx6900).
Previous versions had a little bit of battery usage issues, but I'm having that issue anyway with my Imagio, and it doesn't seem like it's using it any more than Touch Flo was. They have a 15 day free trial, and it's worth at least trying it out...
how do I add new widgets to 3.5
just tap the bottom right hand corner "drop up" menu - add widget is in there
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Has anyone used this and what are your impressions compared to HTC Touch 3D. Does everything work, any problems?
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Not that crazy about it. It's total eye candy, which is cool, but imho it makes things unnecessarily complicated and convoluted.. Plus, there's the huge interface consistency issue that bugs the hell out of me..
Yeah its Purty!!! And very flexible but I uninstalled it after i used the 3d carousel for a minute or so lol.. I just needed to see what it looked like in 3d since I didnt have that option on my omnia. its one of those things where it all depends on what you need your phone to be.. for some its just right, others too much and for many not enough.. mainly because SPB doesnt open it up to the community enough.. it definately does not have as much OS integration as touchflo..
so now that the sspl has been out a few days and the cooks have given us some Christmas food to play with what do you think is better; sticking with ROMS based around 6.5 or making the jump to 6.5.3? thoughts and advice would be cool.
so far I have stayed true to the WM6.5 base as I know most of my apps work, but looking for feedback either way.
Been using WM6.5.X for about an yr now! I love it, wont go back to WM6.5! Yuck! LOL...Time to switch or try and see...
There is not much improvement in functionality from 6.5 to 6.5.x.
Mostly skinning & waste of bottom space with very big icons. May be better for use with other devices without sense UI. Not for HTC HD2.
Just my opinion.
skr_xd said:
There is not much improvement in functionality from 6.5 to 6.5.x.
Mostly skinning & waste of bottom space with very big icons. May be better for use with other devices without sense UI. Not for HTC HD2.
Just my opinion.
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I agree with this. Since I got my Leo, I've been itching to put WM6.5.3 on it (as that's what I used on my old P565), but when SSPL came I realised that Sense hides all the good bits about WM6.5.3 anyway!
- Slide to answer lockscreen
- Contacts info screen
- Styled checkboxes/buttons
- Notification bar
- Keyboard
And once you take all those away, you're basically left with WM6.5 anyway
skr_xd said:
There is not much improvement in functionality from 6.5 to 6.5.x.
Mostly skinning & waste of bottom space with very big icons. May be better for use with other devices without sense UI. Not for HTC HD2.
Just my opinion.
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agree too
skr_xd said:
There is not much improvement in functionality from 6.5 to 6.5.x.
Mostly skinning & waste of bottom space with very big icons. May be better for use with other devices without sense UI. Not for HTC HD2.
Just my opinion.
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definitely agree with this.
6.5.3 is ugly, buttons are ugly and what improvement in functionality. I have used 6.5.x in my Diamond2 and it created more problems than benefits.
just my 2cents.
skr_xd said:
There is not much improvement in functionality from 6.5 to 6.5.x.
Mostly skinning & waste of bottom space with very big icons. May be better for use with other devices without sense UI. Not for HTC HD2.
Just my opinion.
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i disagree but only because i do not use Sense. It isnt the best thing with sense because it doesn't look as pretty. There are other enhancements other than the buttons at the bottom though. Many areas of the OS are far more finger friendly. Personally, even if I used sense I would use 6.5.x but of course we all have are preferences. The best advice came from other users, give it a try and se what you think.
thanks for the advice, I will give it a shot, as much as i hate the look of it its the future so I better get used to it ;-)
Have now tried to live with ffboy and aragon's Sense Builds - and have found the phone virtually unsuable. Actually Novembre's version 3 is my favourite - keeps some of the Tosh stuff and in particular all the input options are there.
Only snag - Novembre's phone looks very sad at the moment. Best of luck from London with our fascinating election!
TONYKENT said:
Have now tried to live with ffboy and aragon's Sense Builds - and have found the phone virtually unsuable. Actually Novembre's version 3 is my favourite - keeps some of the Tosh stuff and in particular all the input options are there.
Only snag - Novembre's phone looks very sad at the moment. Best of luck from London with our fascinating election!
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Possibly innefficient use of graphics maybe, i can't see a reason for its size, compare it to SPB Mobile Shell for example. Actually i tried it and went back to Novembre5's other releases, i found manila on tg01 to be a bit slow, and a lack of familiarity with it made me decide to go back
I also found there were quite a few of the sense features that didnt work for me eg the weather and the weather wallpaper on the homescreen. I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.
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I also found there were quite a few of the sense features that didnt work for me eg the weather and the weather wallpaper on the homescreen. I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.
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Try FFBoy v1.0 ROM because it's very fast too...
strike-down said:
I also found there were quite a few of the sense features that didnt work for me eg the weather and the weather wallpaper on the homescreen. I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.
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The aragon rom with a couple of simple tweaks works perfectly... yes it eats ram but considering that I don´t need to install many things to make it look gorgeous in all aspects, I didn´t notice that lack of rom at all! Indeed I have the weather working perfectly with animations and managed to change the wallpaper in sense tabs... it's beatifull now... and best of all.. everything made to work on htc devices only, works on tg01 also!
I never used sense before or anyother htc stuff so it took me a while to managed to understand its way of work, but now I see it's far better than spm mobile shell or anyother UI
Recomend it
strike-down said:
I have gone back to SPB MS on top of novembres R2 ROM as its just so versatile, very very quick, and it works.
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I once used spb in my old LG KS20 and battery life was horrible, it sucked it's juice in one day when my phone used to keep going for at least three days. I reckon using spb shell in tg01 your battery lasts for...?
Still waiting for my mugen 1300mah...
Jonous said:
I once used spb in my old LG KS20 and battery life was horrible, it sucked it's juice in one day when my phone used to keep going for at least three days. I reckon using spb shell in tg01 your battery lasts for...?
Still waiting for my mugen 1300mah...
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Your right... I had spb mobile shell on my tg01 and the battery duration was horrible!!! I thought the battery was dead... but now with sense it lasts much longer... anyway I'm wayting for mugen 1300 also
gluonyc said:
The aragon rom with a couple of simple tweaks works perfectly... yes it eats ram but considering that I don´t need to install many things to make it look gorgeous in all aspects, I didn´t notice that lack of rom at all! Indeed I have the weather working perfectly with animations and managed to change the wallpaper in sense tabs... it's beatifull now... and best of all.. everything made to work on htc devices only, works on tg01 also!
I never used sense before or anyother htc stuff so it took me a while to managed to understand its way of work, but now I see it's far better than spm mobile shell or anyother UI
Recomend it
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how did you change the wallpaper on the tabs?
i tried hqwallpaper cab but nothing.
if you could pm me with a link or something i would be a happy little elf
Installed 3.14 ROM
Installed Froyo
2 phones in one goodness
Installed a couple of Android Apps then time to set my WinMo back up with CHT and eye-candy goodness
I've been holding off upgrading to the new ROM cos I'm happy
with how I have it set up right now,sounds like you are a
happy bunny though...
Once you've started using Android more, you'll realise that "CHT Eyecandy" pretty much becomes meaningless
Wife has a Desire so I know what Android is all about.
Admittedly cht brought many of the Android tricks to the party but maybe I need to try another ROM as I have been a little underwhelmed by the Desire Sense appearance on the HD2 (doesn't seem to take advantage of the screen real-estate so much)
Might try the Desire HD ROM...
wigwam12 said:
Wife has a Desire so I know what Android is all about.
Admittedly cht brought many of the Android tricks to the party but maybe I need to try another ROM as I have been a little underwhelmed by the Desire Sense appearance on the HD2 (doesn't seem to take advantage of the screen real-estate so much)
Might try the Desire HD ROM...
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I use MDJ's Desire HD ROM, tis pretty good.
If you're after something speedier, try one of the many RAM based ROMs out there, they're pretty slick!
As for eye candy, there's a **** load more options for Android.. almost too much choice! I still haven't decided on what widgets to settle on yet lol
From what I have read the Froyo Sense Revo 1.7 is very stable so was my choice for thr first foray into Android and to be fair it worked straight out of the box and I d/l apps etc.
My only real complaint is the clock is huge [takes up 1/3 of homescreen] and the widgets take up way too much room so that [for example] I can't put the caledar widget and the marketplace together on the home screen; the calendar only shows one appt as well (I will learn to fix this to show more no doubt esp once you nice people helps a brother out!)
As you say I have seen the blackstone super-fast ones as well. For the time being I can live with the boot speed [may well use another bootloader rather than JMZ v4] since it all works but I may experiement in future - exceller or the mkskip loader support multiple roms I think so that might help.
I was just mighty chuffed that my rom upgrade and the android install were so slick.
I am also enjoying the apparent better reception with this rom
wigwam12 said:
From what I have read the Froyo Sense Revo 1.7 is very stable so was my choice for thr first foray into Android and to be fair it worked straight out of the box and I d/l apps etc.
My only real complaint is the clock is huge [takes up 1/3 of homescreen] and the widgets take up way too much room so that [for example] I can't put the caledar widget and the marketplace together on the home screen; the calendar only shows one appt as well (I will learn to fix this to show more no doubt esp once you nice people helps a brother out!)
As you say I have seen the blackstone super-fast ones as well. For the time being I can live with the boot speed [may well use another bootloader rather than JMZ v4] since it all works but I may experiement in future - exceller or the mkskip loader support multiple roms I think so that might help.
I was just mighty chuffed that my rom upgrade and the android install were so slick.
I am also enjoying the apparent better reception with this rom
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use ebl bootloader and set android to autoboot at3 seconds
wigwam12 said:
From what I have read the Froyo Sense Revo 1.7 is very stable so was my choice for thr first foray into Android and to be fair it worked straight out of the box and I d/l apps etc.
My only real complaint is the clock is huge [takes up 1/3 of homescreen] and the widgets take up way too much room so that [for example] I can't put the caledar widget and the marketplace together on the home screen; the calendar only shows one appt as well (I will learn to fix this to show more no doubt esp once you nice people helps a brother out!)
As you say I have seen the blackstone super-fast ones as well. For the time being I can live with the boot speed [may well use another bootloader rather than JMZ v4] since it all works but I may experiement in future - exceller or the mkskip loader support multiple roms I think so that might help.
I was just mighty chuffed that my rom upgrade and the android install were so slick.
I am also enjoying the apparent better reception with this rom
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I use LauncherPro Plus, which lets you add its own widgets - but also lets you resize widgets. Try it out! (LauncherPro is the free version)
Pooper said:
Once you've started using Android more, you'll realise that "CHT Eyecandy" pretty much becomes meaningless
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The CHT eyecandyrocks, but Androidkilled my touchscreen!