If you cup the bottom of the phone with both hands, will the connection switch to EDGE, or will the data just drop out altogether?
(Might only be for those of you with weak signal, such as -90 dBm and weaker)
(You can check signal strength via Settings -> About Phone -> Network)
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On edge only. T-mo n1.
When switching from holding the top and bottom; the signal changes from -61dBm to -55dBm.
Not 100% of the time though, sometimes it barely fluctuates.
britoso said:
On edge only. T-mo n1.
When switching from holding the top and bottom; the signal changes from -61dBm to -55dBm.
Not 100% of the time though, sometimes it barely fluctuates.
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I have the AT&T version and just tested this. My result on 3G are almost exactly the same. Sometimes I loose up to 10db's. I put both hands around the back, and held it close to my body.
But I've never had the phone drop to EDGE once in 2 days in the SLC area.
Is this similar to the T-Mobile one? I have a Rogers G1 at home, I should check to see how these guys compare.
-James
Just checked mine on AT&T. The phone idles at my desk at around -87dBm. When I cup my hand around it it drops to -103dBm or worse. I can get it to lose signal altogether but it does not switch to Edge. Interseting that it has to be hardware related IMO. I wonder if one of those antenna boosters would actually work in this case?
awtryau89 said:
Just checked mine on AT&T. The phone idles at my desk at around -87dBm. When I cup my hand around it it drops to -103dBm or worse. I can get it to lose signal altogether but it does not switch to Edge. Interseting that it has to be hardware related IMO. I wonder if one of those antenna boosters would actually work in this case?
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You should do a speed test with your hand around it and one without and post your results.
I see some drop as well, but don't see it as much of an issue since I don't cup my hands around the bottom of the phone when using it. I think this is a fairly common problem with any phone which has the antenna on the bottom where you normally hold it. I saw something similar with my Nokia e71. The positive is that it puts additional distance between the antenna and your brain!
awtryau89 said:
Just checked mine on AT&T. The phone idles at my desk at around -87dBm. When I cup my hand around it it drops to -103dBm or worse. I can get it to lose signal altogether but it does not switch to Edge. Interseting that it has to be hardware related IMO. I wonder if one of those antenna boosters would actually work in this case?
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Ah, I see.
So it looks like the 3G problem T-Mobile users have experienced is because of network technology.
When T-Mobile N1's go below -100 dBm, it switches to edge.
When AT&T N1's go below -100 dBm, it just cuts off the data. (Can anyone else with sub -90 dBm confirm this?)
In that case, it's hard to say which is preferable. Either you have slow connection, or no connection...
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Paul22000 said:
Ah, I see.
So it looks like the 3G problem T-Mobile users have experienced is because of network technology.
When T-Mobile N1's go below -100 dBm, it switches to edge.
When AT&T N1's go below -100 dBm, it just cuts off the data. (Can anyone else with sub -90 dBm confirm this?)
In that case, it's hard to say which is preferable. Either you have slow connection, or no connection...
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Im on the ATT network. I live in an area which is considered a "dead zone" between two towers here. Avg signal inside my home is around -92 dBm. Right now my N1 is sitting on the desk and is pulling -111 with one bar registered on edge. this is the worst ive seen it so far.
Paul22000 said:
Ah, I see.
So it looks like the 3G problem T-Mobile users have experienced is because of network technology.
When T-Mobile N1's go below -100 dBm, it switches to edge.
When AT&T N1's go below -100 dBm, it just cuts off the data. (Can anyone else with sub -90 dBm confirm this?)
In that case, it's hard to say which is preferable. Either you have slow connection, or no connection...
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Slow connection is better than no connection.
On my desk it idles at -70 dBm. With my hand around it it goes to -78 dBm. That's no biggie at all.
One thing you may be doing to foul your results is moving the phone for the in-hand test. Signal reception will be *different* with the phone in a different location and orientation.
Let's eliminate all these lurking variables before we go pointing fingers, folks.
I'm enjoy the heck out of my N1 and have had 0 problems (including anything with the screen).
I was out a good bit today in areas I usually drive. I know where I drop calls on my iPhone because I use the "Mark the Spot" app to send in to AT&T. No drop calls today with the N1. I also tested the phone in my basement. I constantly use my iPhone down there and have issues with a signal. When I originally tested the N1 in my Home Theater I was thinking I had a dud. I checked for a signal and had none where as I usually am on Edge and get 1 bar with the iPhone. The I noticed I was still on HSDPA with -111dBm. After a few seconds it switched to Edge and went into the 70-80 range. I am getting a much better Edge signal in my basement than I ever did with my iPhone.
Paul22000 said:
Ah, I see.
So it looks like the 3G problem T-Mobile users have experienced is because of network technology.
When T-Mobile N1's go below -100 dBm, it switches to edge.
When AT&T N1's go below -100 dBm, it just cuts off the data. (Can anyone else with sub -90 dBm confirm this?)
In that case, it's hard to say which is preferable. Either you have slow connection, or no connection...
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T-Mobile network would be better in that case. Think about it, its a hand off going on between 3G and EDGE. On T-Mobile, when on a call and your 3G signal gets low(-108dBm), your call is hand off to the EDGE network with higher signal. Hence no drop call when you approach a 3G dead zone. So think about AT&T, do they do this? apparently it seems the phone only switches to EDGE when there is No Signal at all on 3G. Hence a drop call could occur. Can someone confirm my theory?
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I was out a good bit today in areas I usually drive. I know where I drop calls on my iPhone because I use the "Mark the Spot" app to send in to AT&T. No drop calls today with the N1. I also tested the phone in my basement. I constantly use my iPhone down there and have issues with a signal. When I originally tested the N1 in my Home Theater I was thinking I had a dud. I checked for a signal and had none where as I usually am on Edge and get 1 bar with the iPhone. The I noticed I was still on HSDPA with -111dBm. After a few seconds it switched to Edge and went into the 70-80 range. I am getting a much better Edge signal in my basement than I ever did with my iPhone.
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Can you test my theory? Answer a call on 3G and go into your basement, your call should drop and the phone should switch to EDGE after..let me know if that happens..
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Hi guys.
Please have a look at these reports:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/01/nexus-one-incurring-3g-problems/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/google-support-forums-rife-with-nexus-one-3g-complaints-is-this/
http://www.erodov.com/forums/nexus-has-one-major-pr-nightmare-coming-up-3g-issue/28857.html
and the source forum thread:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...c2&hl=en&fid=0bd8ccd4799040c200047c9a22ea5c23
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Is anyone else having spotty 3G coverage where as the same sim is having proper 3G coverage with another device?
Please report back.
Regards.
I haven't noticed any difference here.
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I haven't noticed any difference here.
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Did you compare it with another phone? How many bars of signal?
Mine's getting the same 3G coverage my Cliq was
I've never had 3g problemo's...then again im on wifi most of the time
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I've never had 3g problemo's...then again im on wifi most of the time
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Thats the thing with smart phones, being on 3G most of time, you don't realize the 3G speeds.
My 3g was solid when i went int town... ****ty at home but thats what wifi is for
personally i think if there is a problem its with tmobile's network... they just rolled out a new system and their service has never been "verizon" as it is... give it time children... i think everyone just likes to throw a fit about everything for the sake of kickin and screaming
haha i just checked the map around my house and there is like speckles of 3g all around my house but not directly over where my house would be... i get 3g in random parts of my house and edge upstairs in my room... pretty funny that the map of their reflects my situation so well
i cannot wait to get back to tempe, the whole phoenix metro area is one big purple blotch on the coverage map lol
JHaste said:
My 3g was solid when i went int town... ****ty at home but thats what wifi is for
personally i think if there is a problem its with tmobile's network... they just rolled out a new system and their service has never been "verizon" as it is... give it time children... i think everyone just likes to throw a fit about everything for the sake of kickin and screaming
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I totally agree... but have a look:
http://www.twitpic.com/x3zm0
How can the same provider (T-mobile) have 3G in the G1 but Edge on the Nexus One?
Its quite possible though that this is a measure implemented by Google to keep the phone in low power EDGE mode when you are not actively using the data connection? That way the phone lasts a lot longer? Just guessing...
I think it's more of a T-Mobile issue than a N1 issue. I originally ordered it with a T-Mobile SIM/plan, but ended up having to use it with AT&T on EDGE since I couldn't get a signal at all indoors and it dropped down to GRPS when I was inside a restaurant in the middle of Downtown LA!
dsjr2006 said:
I think it's more of a T-Mobile issue than a N1 issue. I originally ordered it with a T-Mobile SIM/plan, but ended up having to use it with AT&T on EDGE since I couldn't get a signal at all indoors and it dropped down to GRPS when I was inside a restaurant in the middle of Downtown LA!
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Did you see the image in the first post? Two phones side by side (both TMob... I am hoping) with one having 3 Bars (3G) and other having 4 bars (EDGE)
KiD0M4N said:
I totally agree... but have a look:
http://www.twitpic.com/x3zm0
How can the same provider (T-mobile) have 3G in the G1 but Edge on the Nexus One?
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not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
KiD0M4N said:
Its quite possible though that this is a measure implemented by Google to keep the phone in low power EDGE mode when you are not actively using the data connection? That way the phone lasts a lot longer? Just guessing...
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DING DING DING! i read through a good portion of the google thread at the top and then skimmed the rest and thats what i was thinking may be happening... the guy was playing pandora on 3g with no problem, soon as he gets near it to play around it goes to edge? sounds to me like maybe a power saving mechanism... like the cpu it only uses the high end data rates when necessary, crafty if thats actually what its doing and it is working right... I shall run tests tomorrow when i go into town for dinner and such
personally though, the phone has been out on the streets for like 72 hours... bite your tongue for 10 days straight and if **** still doesnt fly by your book you have 4 days left on that RMA date... iphone release days anyone? att/apple about cried...
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not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
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Probably because the Nexus One can't use AT&T 3G network, just 2G.
I've been paying close attention to reception since I got my NOne yesterday, and so far it seems to change at exactly the same times my G1 would. Upstairs 3g is strong, downstairs it drops to EDGE - just like my G1.
The only difference I notice is the NOne does it much faster.
I have a mytouch, G1 and N1 all on tmob and I have 3G on all three all the time, must be certain areas, or larger markets maybe?
NordicZz said:
Probably because the Nexus One can't use AT&T 3G network, just 2G.
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my point exactly... lol
JHaste said:
not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
DING DING DING! i read through a good portion of the google thread at the top and then skimmed the rest and thats what i was thinking may be happening... the guy was playing pandora on 3g with no problem, soon as he gets near it to play around it goes to edge? sounds to me like maybe a power saving mechanism... like the cpu it only uses the high end data rates when necessary, crafty if thats actually what its doing and it is working right... I shall run tests tomorrow when i go into town for dinner and such
personally though, the phone has been out on the streets for like 72 hours... bite your tongue for 10 days straight and if **** still doesnt fly by your book you have 4 days left on that RMA date... iphone release days anyone? att/apple about cried...
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True that. Still waiting for ma phone to be delivered Hope it is all well...
JoshHart said:
I have a mytouch, G1 and N1 all on tmob and I have 3G on all three all the time, must be certain areas, or larger markets maybe?
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Thats another possibility as well.
If you all remember, the 3GS used to 'reflect' the fact that it had dropped out of 3G a lot earlier than the 'iPhone 3G' and that lead ppl to believe that the 3GS has poor 3G reception.
Maybe it is a similar situation here...
Anyone having this problem in the UK?
Just got back from a 2 day drink-athon in Vegas and prior to binge, I was able to run some 4G test in different parts.
From the moment we came over the hill, I switched on 4G and monitored the phone; Tropicana Blvd is where I finally received a 4G signal. Immediately I ran a speed test and was getting horrible speeds. I realized that my phone's Server was still set to Los Angeles, after updating to a Vegas server, I was getting better (not literally) speeds.
I averaged about 2.3 Mbps down and 1 Mbps upload. Over 3G I was getting 1.5 ish, and 900k up.
So what gives ? Signal also fluctuates drastically... Is this what we should expect when 4G Rolls out in LA ?
The biggest issue with sprints 4g is the frequency it operates at. Meaning obstructions blocking los can have a huge impact on strength. This in turn hurts quality.
I really don't see it taking off simply for that reason. Penetration sucks unless you are very close to a tower. Lte is going to drop kick 4g in the face I'm not sure why they decided to go this way its obvious they learned nothing from the cdma penetration issues.
A bunch of execs sat around a table looking at cost and towers, picked this because the foot print is larger with less infrastructure but neglected to think about people not being able to use it effectively in cities or in buildings.
Aridon said:
The biggest issue with sprints 4g is the frequency it operates at. Meaning obstructions blocking los can have a huge impact on strength. This in turn hurts quality.
I really don't see it taking off simply for that reason. Penetration sucks unless you are very close to a tower. Lte is going to drop kick 4g in the face I'm not sure why they decided to go this way its obvious they learned nothing from the cdma penetration issues.
A bunch of execs sat around a table looking at cost and towers, picked this because the foot print is larger with less infrastructure but neglected to think about people not being able to use it effectively in cities or in buildings.
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I was well aware of the frequency issue but never though it would be that bad, although Vegas has pretty tall structures which I'm sure plays a role.
jaypeezee said:
I was well aware of the frequency issue but never though it would be that bad, although Vegas has pretty tall structures which I'm sure plays a role.
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While I'm sure that did play a role for you, there are a lot more factors involved. The St. Louis outlying areas where I pick up 4G now (Specifically Fenton and Arnold) have very few buildings over 4-5 stories. Even in a wide open parking lot with nothing but flat for about a thousand feet in every direction I don't get very good speeds if I'm inside even a car.
If I stand in that lot (the movie theater at Gravois Bluff if anyone from around here wants specifics) outside a car with nothing around, I hit ~3-3.5mbs down & ~1 up. If I'm in a car, I'm lucky to hit 2.5 down & 1 up. If I go inside the theater, ~2 down tops if I even get signal.
When I go in Red Robin's there by the Verizon store, I have full bars outside with ~3mb down & when I step inside I usually lose 4G service, but if I don't, I get ~1.5-2 down tops.
If you're moving, it gets even worse. Don't expect much over 2mb if you're in a moving car.
Sprint is pretty upfront on the coverage map about 4G having very limited availability inside buildings. In my experience, when driving around in a car through spotty coverage I usually get better speeds by turning off 4g completely. Searching, connecting, disconnecting destroys my ability to do anything with data.
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I live in Vegas and I have fairly good 4G Speeds. It does fluctuate often though. Sprint should be working on getting Vegas solid coverage since we're such a major city and so many customers here bought an Evo. I think that the same should go for all major cities, especially LA. They need to use our 10 extra bucks to buy some better coverage, but let's give Sprint some time
WiMAX coverage in Las Vegas is down right atrocious. You won't be able to drive down any freeway and maintain a solid connection.. that's just one example of how spotty the coverage is, the map is a blatant lie. The strip should have big coverage holes shown on the map for nearly all of the shops/hotels/casinos/clubs that don't have towers next to them. Try driving down Dean Martin/Industrial and see if you can maintain a 4G connection with no drops.
It's really bad when you spend some time in Las Vegas and go all around. Las Vegas didn't just launch last week either, they've been online for about a year now. It's one reason why I wasn't falling over the HTC Evo when it launched.. WiMAX coverage is bad. Sprint's coverage overall is better, but not the best.
Basically, if your city is like Las Vegas with lots of Suburbs, Urban areas, and even hilly areas! (7 Hills/Anthem) - expect coverage to be the same or worse. CLEAR can't even cover 7 Hills properly and didn't bother with Anthem.
I live in Vegas, I was probably the first person with WiMax though clearwire. I get decent speed with there usb but it's consistent. The 4g on my Evo however, is pretty much useless.... unless I'm plugged in. Most times though my 3g is plenty fast, and doesn't ever drop.
typed on my Evo...
I too live in Vegas and while in some areas 4G does suck for the most part I get a great signal both on my EVO and with Clearwire. I spend most time on the south end of the strip as I live and work in that area and I always get a great signal.
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my dad lives in anthem henderson and man ATT and Sprint 3g and normal reception signal sucks Balls there! 4g is non existent!
I was in Vegas the day after Evo launch day and actually got pretty good 4g speeds too. I was not right down on the strip though. The only thing I found odd was that Sprints coverage is pretty spotty in general. In Reno we have great coverage, just no 4g.
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Wow, a little discomforting from hearing all these replies OR thats just my stomach still trying to digest all the alcohol I consumed - meh.
Anyway, I didn't purchase this phone with high hopes for 4G and I knew going in to it I was probably only going switch it on while I was tethering/stationary somewhere... Although with all these similar replies, seems like this also maybe a problem.
Guess we'll wait and see - I know, new technology
When it works its great but 4G is very spotty in Vegas. Truthfully 4G was not my main reason for getting the Evo and in fact I don't use it unless I am streaming a video or a large download.
Just got a text from T-Mobile saying HSPA+ is active in my city....Memphis, TN. Havent noticed in difference. Maybe I should do a speed test later.
maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it
hspa+ is still faster than the 3g you prob had, so now you might get up to 7.2mbps.. so you could notice a difference even though we dont have hspa enable devices... this is the first time that we can recieve more data than the phone can handle...
scrizz said:
maybe you need an actual HSPA+ phone.
and maybe they had activated it before they announced it
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yeah i thought about that too. I have an upgrade so I am gonna get the G2 when it comes out. But i still wanna do some test with normal 3g versus HSPA+
Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.
All I care about is that hsdpa gets me down speeds rivaling my cable connection and up speeds beating my cable connection. 5.5/1
6? Don't need more.
Unless I am at home where tmo never gives me much signal love
Sent from my Vibrant.
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Not sure if this is related but when i go to settings and about and signals its showing that im connected to umts (3g) but when i tether to my vibrant it goes to hspda (3.5g).
3g falling in the range of less than 7.2 around 3-4mbps and 3.5g around 5-7. Ive done a speed test.
speedtest.net /result /927922215.png
Im not sure if thats accurate info on the connection type. I also know speedtest sites are never accurate on speeds. Someone let me know.
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I just did the speed test on my Vibrant and thats the speeds I am getting. Dont remember what I was getting before tho.
I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)
pavvy said:
I live in an HSPA+ city, and I haven't logged above 1.35mbps on the old speed test (usually far less -- around .5). Is that just the way the cookie crumbles (signal strength, etc.) or is that freakishly slow? (Going by the numbers cited in this thread, it sure sounds slow...)
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I get about 0.5 at home, but 4-5 at work.
I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...
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I'm jealous! -- I get mostly EDGE at work...
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I only get edge at home. I live right outside of the hspa network...
I'm about 45 mins outside of hspa/3g networks, on most days around town, I stay on 3g
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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+
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curious if your phones are showing the "H" icon at the top when you're pulling HSPDA+
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Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.
No the h isn't turned on... Gotta check in settings... Only stock phone that shows h is the n1..
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Looks like the HSPA+ network to me. You didn't notice anything because you we're already on it. They only announce it after it has a good amount of coverage over the existing HSPA/3G network. It actually starts to come online far before they announce it. I noticed HSPA+ 2 months before they said it was live (outside of the strip where it was turned on during CES or CTIA)
acjames said:
Nope. our phones are not HSPA phones, but T-Mobile says that most phones will get faster speeds.
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thought our phones were HSPA, but not HSPA+ - are you sure they're not HSPA??
reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does (according to Tmo's map, i'm in a "moderate" coverage area, and in a shallow valley in that area)
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps
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reason i asked, mine has shown the "H" icon where the 3G icon usually is, but only "blue moon" events and maybe for a few hours duration when it does
on a couple of those occasions i pulled 5.4 - 5.6 Mbps speedtests where i normally pull 1.1 - 1.4Mbps
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Interesting. I havent noticed mine doing that. But i cant say i have paid much attention to it either tho.
Can anyone help me fix my data connection? I'm honestly clueless why I'm on 1X everywhere. I fixed my GPS and now my 3G blows
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Can anyone help me fix my data connection? I'm honestly clueless why I'm on 1X everywhere. I fixed my GPS and now my 3G blows
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Check to see if you data roaming is on. That's what it sounds like the problem is.
To help you:
Menu>Settings>Wireless & Networks>Mobile Networks>Data Roaming: unselect if selected
Turn on Data Roaming Guard if not on.
Turn Data Roaming Sound off.
Uncheck Enable always-on mobile data if checked
Select roaming menu
Make Sprint only is highlighted
Make sure Call guard is unchecked
I'm with you with the poor 3G speeds. I've been getting .63 MBPS download and .5 MBPS upload.
About to check settings
I'm about to check and see if all of these settings are correct on my phone. On an unrelated topic,
has anyone here been experienced ghost touches? My ghost touches are gettting REALLY bad, I'm about to open a thread about it.
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I'm about to check and see if all of these settings are correct on my phone. On an unrelated topic,
has anyone here been experienced ghost touches? My ghost touches are gettting REALLY bad, I'm about to open a thread about it.
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What??????
Wallabe said:
Check to see if you data roaming is on. That's what it sounds like the problem is.
To help you:
Menu>Settings>Wireless & Networks>Mobile Networks>Data Roaming: unselect if selected
Turn on Data Roaming Guard if not on.
Turn Data Roaming Sound off.
Uncheck Enable always-on mobile data if checked
Select roaming menu
Make Sprint only is highlighted
Make sure Call guard is unchecked
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i am also having this problem in the past couple of days and i cannot figure out what the problem is....i tried these suggestions and they didnt work, i know its the EVO because i did a speed test with a friends HERO and the hero didnt have slow data issues.
Was having this problem after updating to Fresh 3.2 rom, flashed to stock rooted 2.2 and 3g speeds greatly improved. Not sure what rom you are running but might be worth it to do a nandroid and try flashing to stock rooted to see if your speeds improve.
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ritzbrie said:
I'm with you with the poor 3G speeds. I've been getting .63 MBPS download and .5 MBPS upload.
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That's exactly what Sprint advertises as their 3G speed... 600k... Which makes that 6Mbps 4G number 10x faster than their 3G network.
In comparison, Sprints 600kbps is outdone by Verizon's 1700kbps in most of the areas where I use mine, but my 2500-3500kbps 4G puts it to shame.
I'm getting slow speeds too. I rarely break 1mbps but on my Pre I definitely used to.
I feel like a recent PRL update or my ROM is setting me back.
I'm running CyanogenMod 8/23 nightly I think... So many people getting problems with the 6.0.0 version that I didn't flash it.
zcarman said:
That's exactly what Sprint advertises as their 3G speed... 600k... Which makes that 6Mbps 4G number 10x faster than their 3G network.
In comparison, Sprints 600kbps is outdone by Verizon's 1700kbps in most of the areas where I use mine, but my 2500-3500kbps 4G puts it to shame.
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I get 1.9 mbs download speed if I have full 3g and my fastest 4g in St. Louis was around 7.5 mbs.
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I found that even just accessing the ##data# and all those ##*** menus screw up my 3G speeds... To counter that I do a nandroid backup, do all my configs, and then just nandroid restore. This way I keep the changes and 3G connection isn't crippled.
I just had a rather odd thing happen.
I've had abysmal speed for about 3 weeks... On the order of .2 - .3 down, with latency screaming upwards of 1000.
Now this could be completely coincidental, but I'm going to fiddle with it a lot more to see what's going on - About the same time I started getting abysmal speeds, I got my Seidio extended battery (3500). I had thought about it before, but didn't think it could possibly make a difference.
Soooo, I tested my speed, usual garbage. I powered down the phone, pulled the battery, put it back in, tested my speeds...usual garbage. Power down the phone again, put my original HTC battery back in, test my speeds, and now its cranking along at 1mb+, with a 121 latency. Not amazing, but when you're coming from 0.2 with 1000 latency, its like switching from dialup to FIOS. It's been in a while, I've made a few calls, texts, used the wireless hotspot, and its still going.
I'm going to try pulling it and putting back in the Seidio. I'm still not convinced it's the battery (at least in my case), but I guess we'll see.
I get around 1300Kbps, which I consider to be very good. My associates with iPhones or AT&T blackberries can barely get half that.
Yes, I have the ghost touch problem. Only way to stop them is turn off the screen and start over.
Would love to know why this happens.
letshaveDEX said:
I'm about to check and see if all of these settings are correct on my phone. On an unrelated topic,
has anyone here been experienced ghost touches? My ghost touches are gettting REALLY bad, I'm about to open a thread about it.
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tomit12 said:
I just had a rather odd thing happen.
I've had abysmal speed for about 3 weeks... On the order of .2 - .3 down, with latency screaming upwards of 1000.
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Same here almost everywhere. Just scored a free airave though.
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Interesting...after having abysmal speeds for weeks, my work location (Newport Coast, CA) suddenly has 4G.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/939956804.png
tomit12 said:
Interesting...after having abysmal speeds for weeks, my work location (Newport Coast, CA) suddenly has 4G.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/939956804.png
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I get consistently terrible speeds too. I'm jealous of the guys who think .6mbits is bad. That's 3x what I consistently get. I'd gladly take that. My speeds are only this terrible at my apartment where I actually have fantastic (almost perfect) service all of the time. The tower must be over loaded or something. I wish there were a way to let sprint know The speeds get better at like 3am.
The two really fast speeds are trying out 4G in Grand Rapids about an hour away. The rest are at my apartment. Sigh.
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I finally tried the "new" 4g I get four out four 4g bars pretty much everywhere in that area. So far so good.
But when I test the speed with the speedtest.net app or testmy.net site, I am always getting only 0.4mbps download speed (but normal 0.9 mbps upload speed). 3g download speed is 1.2mbps
I also tried another EVO with the same result (both hardware version 3). I don't think it is a hardware issue, because last year I tried my EVO in a different area and got 8mpbs (with four bars).
I tried the two latest wimax versions (and updated the profile):
EVO_WiMAX_27167_R01
EVO_WiMAX_26023_R01
Does anybody have an idea why the download speed is so slow (with excellent signal strength)?
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I am not looking for confirmation that download speed in the bay area is fast. I believe that, I am rather interested in possible explanations, what could be wrong on my phone.
Probably something wrong going on there. I've been getting 4g in the bay area for at least 3 months. I've maxed out at 9.5 mbps...
Yes, something is probably wrong. What Wimax version did you flash?
+1 to it being fast in the Bay Area. Have gotten as high as 1.1 MByte/sec (with a -64dBm signal).
Stock EVO, and a Sierra 250U for use at the hotel.
What wimax version do you guys have on your phones?
What else could make a difference?
For example ad-blocking (via /etc/hosts or ad-free) does interfere with 4g web browsing, but I don't have any ad-blocking software or hosts file.
Again, this is the first time I am having issues with 4g. Last time I used 4g was 2months ago (before the official roll-out), but had no problems.
I got 8mb to the speed test app last night at the in n out on 101 and rhengstorf
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4G Speeds fine for me
I have a Evo 4G hardware version 0004 and my speeds are almost 10Mbps in the bay. Same in Sacramento.
I think mystery solved.
I went to a Sprint store to compare with other devices and they had the same problem.
FYI, tested from Stanford campus with almost no 4g signal and got 2.4 Mbps down and 0.5 up. Not great compared to others though, but I was indoors.
EVO 4G, CM7-GX4, Savaged-Zen
seems to be sporatic coverage to me. When i test in certain areas the speeds are awesome but when i'm at home, whether inside or outside, the speeds are indeed worse than 3g. Give it some time i guess maybe they'll bolster the coverage a bit more as they expand.
This is all in various parts of san bruno
palmdude said:
It looks like that the 4g tower in the following area has a big problem with download speeds.
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Bandwith hog, I'll bet.
Have you reported it to Sprint, just in case it's really a bad tower after all?
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seems to be sporatic coverage to me. When i test in certain areas the speeds are awesome but when i'm at home, whether inside or outside, the speeds are indeed worse than 3g. Give it some time i guess maybe they'll bolster the coverage a bit more as they expand.
This is all in various parts of san bruno
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That's what I've noticed in SF. I have gotten nice d/l speeds at various places I've been but overall it's sporadic at best and 3G seems to be my best bet overall for the places I frequent.
I am not sure that this is a coverage issue. My antenna signal strength is very high and the tower is 0.2 miles away (according to spring). I tested in areas with only one bar and still got at least 2mbps.
lacrossev said:
seems to be sporatic coverage to me. When i test in certain areas the speeds are awesome but when i'm at home, whether inside or outside, the speeds are indeed worse than 3g. Give it some time i guess maybe they'll bolster the coverage a bit more as they expand.
This is all in various parts of san bruno
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I don't think it is a bandwidth hog. I tested many days around the clock always the same problem.
Yes, I called Sprint, I tried to explain that I tried other EVOs and got the same problem. And that the phone works very well everywhere else in Bay Area But they think it is a problem with my phone (after the "advanced support technician" remotely updated the phone and also did an "handsfree activation").
I guess the problem is that they haven't received (m)any calls from that area yet. The most surprising part is that the sprint store in that area apparently didn't complain about the problem either ...
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Bandwith hog, I'll bet.
Have you reported it to Sprint, just in case it's really a bad tower after all?
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Did you have any download speed problem, when the 4g signal strength was excellent ("full bars")?
spiicytuna said:
That's what I've noticed in SF. I have gotten nice d/l speeds at various places I've been but overall it's sporadic at best and 3G seems to be my best bet overall for the places I frequent.
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Exciting news.
After 13 months Sprint/Clearwire fixed the tower and I have full 4g speed now.
Average speedtest roughly 9.5mbps down and 1.4mbps up.
Speedtest via hotspot: 4.5 mbps down.
You guys are lucky.
Where im living i would post this thread with the title:
Gainesville: 3G slower than 1x?
Its been like that for the last 6 months here.
Id rather roam 1x on verizon than use sprint's 3g. 100% honest. I get about 100kbps on a good day.. average around 30 kpbs right now
palmdude said:
I think mystery solved.
I went to a Sprint store to compare with other devices and they had the same problem.
It looks like that the 4g tower in the following area has a big problem with download speeds.
http://sprintstorelocator.com/map.a...alesServices=1,2&repairServices=&services=1,3
I tried other areas (for example 101 and rhengstorf like user treckin) and everything worked perfectly (8mpb). So it is not a phone issue.
Only a problem in the above area ...
Feel free to test in that area
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That site is defunct, but you can see the tower at the new site:
https://network.sprint.com/search/94040/
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Getting great 4G speeds in San Francisco, about 8.5 Mbps download with one to two bars of strength. Compared to my .3 Mbps download speeds with full bars of 3G, it's amazing. By the way, my mom's Samsung Epic 4G is getting 5x faster 3G speeds...any reason for that? Is the Evo just that bad?
@NxNW thanks for the link update. But the map doesn't show any 4g coverage.
You can see 4g coverage here: http://www.clear.com/coverage
3g speed has been around 0.7mbps average in the last couple of months (despite the data capacity upgrade). It used to be 1.5 mbps ...
BTW the highest speed I measured was 12.4 mbps.