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Hero rom problems

http://reviewstash.com/viewtopic.php?pid=3239#p3239
i'm trying to do this to my g1 but it's a little vauge for someone who has never attempted this. i.e: me ... couple of quick questions 1st:
-do i need to get a new sdcard to replace the stock 1?
-does the phone need to be in rc29 first?
step#5 at the bottom listed to wipe and flash the phone, so i looked up how to flash the g1 on this forum and it seemed to require going back to rc29, which i did.
only problem is, step#2 listed to extract step#1 in to the "ext2" partition, which no longer exists after i put my phone back to rc29.
i just installed jesusfreke's rc33 thinking maybe "ext2" was only on rc33 or something, and "ext2" still is not there. ANY help would be greatly appreciated. i used "SDSPLIT" to create a dual partitioned sdcard, & sdsplit says everything is partitioned and ready, only now when i mount it to my computer nothing shows up.
oh and i'm new, sorry if this has been posted...went through a ton of pages on this forum and didn't see any posts about it, might have overlooked it while scrolling through wall after wall after wall of posts
EDIT: i used to own an htc fuze and wizard, but this phone is a whole new ballgame for me!

Same here... do we need a replacement mircro sd card than the one given to us in the box?

Oh my goodness gracious, 1. Y would u follow a guide not in the forums [email protected] ur posting on? Have u even tried searching first? Why would you need to replace ur sd? It would be better to(not sure what class it is, but im sure its a 2), the phone needs to have root to install Hero, and the partitions on the SD card r not rom related

you can use any micro sd card.
use the search....

First you didn't read the very firs post on this forum.It should be deleted. Second flashing the hero rom in not for the average Joe. Third a little search goes a long way....i.e. there is a post on how to do it.

Delete this thread!

if you don't know what ext2 is you should forget about it since you didn't even bother reading the guides that are posted here...

Hmm sounds like a problem, what I recommend is that you go and call up TMobile and go ahead and pay another 400 dollars for another G1 and see what firmware it is, repeat as needed until you get one that has RC29 on it.
Alright, seriously, use the search button, and follow guides on THIS site if you plan on asking questions. You do not need a new SD card, however the stock card that comes with the G1 is a class 2 card, which is not sufficient for Apps2SD. Just type into the command prompt
adb push (location of app_s.zip) /system/sd/
adb shell
cd /system/sd/
unzip App_s.zip
You should be good now.
Also, do not mount the SD card. Just plug it in and do the ADB commands.

drmosh said:
if you don't know what ext2 is you should forget about it since you didn't even bother reading the guides that are posted here...
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Probably the smartest new member ever, but yea OP jus 4get about trying to get the Hero Rom since u wanna rush into it w.o doin the research

Woooooooooooooooooooooooow. I thought i was a noob. An i figured out how to install Haykuro's HERO ROM. Delete or be deleted

Please Search first.
Please post in the right thread/forum.
Thank you.

LOL should've known even an all-nerd forum would have jackasses on it. Good thing you guys are so helpful, i might never have gotten my hero rom to work on my g1!
ps, works like a charm, thanks for the warm wishes broskis. go out and get a couple drinks once in a while and socialize. weirdos

I don't get when this forum became so hostile.
If more than 3 individual people took time out of their lives and told him that he's a noob, that is ridiculous. This forum used to help people out so much.
The g1 community is just some flamers.

[Q] can someone root my phone

every time i try and get superuser access it says denied .....ive been trying everything for about 6 hours and i cant do it .....im in miami if anyone would be able to help me out...i have no idea what im doing and would like to learn

tmsk8er89 said:
every time i try and get superuser access it says denied .....ive been trying everything for about 6 hours and i cant do it .....im in miami if anyone would be able to help me out...i have no idea what im doing and would like to learn
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This should help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021

im a bit out of the way in tampa bay, but if it comes to a last resort, you could try my way [but at the same time, following the above guide that was posted, step by step, is a quick and easy way to root your phone, it's how I and most got Superuser access for their MT4G]

Explain the steps you have taken so far... it'll make it a lot easier to help you because we'll see where the error was made...
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

dont feel bad im in the same boat i get stuck in the same spot everytime i then gave up on it everytime i get to the step tht says Type "sh root.sh" + enter i get stuck fml

tmsk8er89 said:
every time i try and get superuser access it says denied .....ive been trying everything for about 6 hours and i cant do it .....im in miami if anyone would be able to help me out...i have no idea what im doing and would like to learn
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Hey, just rooted my mytouch 4g yesterday there is a youtube video that is very helpful but he forgot to mention after you download the root.rar file and extract it check and make sure your root.rar file folder doesnt have another root.rar folder in it when you double click your folder it should show 3 fies thats what you want on your phone for me i clicked on it and it was another folder named root when i took that one and put it on my phone it worked and make sure you only use visionary r11

here is a video that helped me out i think this is the one you were talking about http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackPrince310#p/u/8/bFRWNoRiqlA all credit for the video goes to Blackprince310

Tampa Bay users
I apologize in advance for being an utter novice. I know enough to know not to F with my root. But if one of you in this forum is in the TB area and would like to help me with MyTouch 4G, I would value your services.

tmsk8er89 said:
every time i try and get superuser access it says denied .....ive been trying everything for about 6 hours and i cant do it .....im in miami if anyone would be able to help me out...i have no idea what im doing and would like to learn
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can you tell us what step you are getting hung up on? What process are you using? there's at least 3 sets of instructions to root and I followed a different one than the link that was posted (though I did use terminal emulator).
When I first rooted, the issue I was having trouble with was after checking for temp root and re-running visionary to perm root.
Also, if you're stuck at the entering command steps, make sure your folder isn't buried 1 folder too deep.
EDIT: I don't want to confuse you more but this is the post I followed. Very similar to the previous thread posted but I found this easier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225

[Q] Question about the Terms..

Hi, I am looking to root my MT4G.. but I always see "root at your own risk" etc... Well, I am ready to root at my own risk, however I don't really know enough to want to attempt thsi yet.. so I am looking for a general thread explaining what this stuff is and how it is explained..(definitions for commonly used terms and acronyms..) someone please point me somewhere.... Thank you.

I have been looking for a thread that answers these questions I have and I haven't found one in about a week, so I posted this...however I literally just found one, that I think answers most of my questions @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859446&highlight=guide sooo any MOD please close or delete my thread, and I am sorry for wasting your time.

I used grankin01's instructions...
I know there's a lot of info out there, especially if you just search for "root." It can be a bit daunting at first, especially if you're not oriented properly.
I have rooted 3 MT4G's using the following guide by grankin01...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
It really can't be any easier. I started out on a G1 and rooting was not this easy back then. To paraphrase grankin01's instructions (please read his instructions carefully and do this at your own risk)...
1. Download and install VISIONary
2. Extract that root.rar file to your sdcard. This is where a lot of people got messed up. There's a 'root' folder within a 'root' folder 'cause the person who originally .RAR'd these files, RAR'd a 'root' folder. Basically, when all is said and done, you should have a folder named 'root' on your SD Card. Within the 'root' folder, will be 3 files - hboot_dhd.nb0, Root.sh & wpx.ko.
3. Run VISIONary and click Temproot now - you now have temporary root access
4. Download and run Terminal Emulator and execute the commands outlined in grankin01's post. You will be prompted to restart. Once your phone boots back up, run VISIONary again only this time, click Attempt permoot now. Your screen will go black and eventually, the phone will reboot.
On two occassions, when I was doing this on replacement MT4G's I received, I forgot to enable USB Debugging. I found that VISIONary would just spin its wheels at the Temproot portion. After rebooting the phone and trying again, VISIONary actually prompted with an error to let me know USB Debugging had to be enabled. Totally my fault, but the app just spins its wheels at first, so you don't really know what's up until you reboot and try again.
To recap:
- VISIONary temproot
- Commands outlined in grankin01's post
- VISIONary permroot
It really is quite easy to do! If anything, there are plenty of redundant posts that explain how to get root access. I hope my info above doesn't add to the mire.

shlongwoodian said:
I know there's a lot of info out there, especially if you just search for "root." It can be a bit daunting at first, especially if you're not oriented properly.
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I think that is why I posted this... Because I have been searching but I don't know what exactly to search for, or what step to do such thinigs in...I appreciate the help. I am currently following the s=off perma root guide, however I am struggling at getting my ADB drivers installed correctly....sooo I have some tinkering to do but I am looking forward to rooting my phone, and I don't even know what that is gonna open up..CANT WAIT!!!
EDIT: I checked out your link, and I am using a guide written by him, i believe, but it is the one that is a little more complex, and causes a deeper perma root...

For the ADB drivers just look on the sdcard that came with your phone. There should be a file named HTCDRIVER.EXE. Just copy that to your windows desktop and execute it. It will install the drivers you need. As for linux, my Kubuntu 10.10 installation saw my phone without any problems or driver installations.
The new guide with the "deeper" root actually is the better one to follow. Its really not as complicated or difficult as it looks.

grankin01 said:
For the ADB drivers just look on the sdcard that came with your phone. There should be a file named HTCDRIVER.EXE. Just copy that to your windows desktop and execute it. It will install the drivers you need. As for linux, my Kubuntu 10.10 installation saw my phone without any problems or driver installations.
The new guide with the "deeper" root actually is the better one to follow. Its really not as complicated or difficult as it looks.
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Freaking awesome...in sitting here at work not looking forward to going home to another wasted two hours trying to set the driver up you just saved my day with that info about the driver...you sure it has the adb driver though..?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Jaskwith said:
Freaking awesome...in sitting here at work not looking forward to going home to another wasted two hours trying to set the driver up you just saved my day with that info about the driver...you sure it has the adb driver though..?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Yeah, I had to install it for adb to work on my windows installation and it has saved several other people heartache too.

Ughhhh.. just found out I work at job #2 tonight...how FREAKING lame...like I wasted ALL my freetime not being able to figure it out last night and now that I think I know what to do... I have NO time...BLAH!!

Okay, so my ADB **** is still not working... I don't know why.. I am following the guide over at theunlockr.com and it still won't work.. I installed the SDK from google... I didnt DL the archives however... and then I installed the drivers off my SD card onto my computer, and when I open the Command prompt and type cd\ cd AndroidSDK\tools\ it says the directory does not exist... it says on the unlocr guide to try installing PDAneT and that might help, and so i did that as well, still says directory does not exist...ARGH this is frustrating!

Do you need perma root to boot into recovery?

I would just follow the visionary method so you won't even have to bother with adb. Just use root explorer to copy and past the files into the right directory. Did it on the bus, took me 5 minutes. No need to get true/deep root especially for someone just starting off. I promise, for all you'll be doing (and a hell of a lot more) you'll NEVER know the difference. Just gives you more options to screw up your phone. Start with perm root (set up the easy way), flash a rom or two, mess around with some cool apps for root users, figure out adb, and then work your way up to messing with the deeper system stuff (if you still feel need).
Just my 2¢
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

It sounds like you are looking in the wrong directory. Open your file browser and do a search for adb and pay attention to what folder it is in. My installation had like two subdirectories before I could even get to the tools directory on my windows drive.
That is if you still want to try adb. It is a valueable thing to learn. Espescially if your going to be doing these kinds of things to your devices. It can take a brick and turn it back into a phone if you know how to use it.

Thank you kind sirs you are very helpful to a pour nub such as myself...well it seems like I dont havr any freaking time ever so I think I might take c_licious's advice for now and read up on adb some more...i did see that in the thread its easy to convert from the perma root to the deep perma root so think that's what ill do. Thank you grankin for the tip on finding adb drivers that will definitely come in handy when I get to that. Yayyyyy!!!!
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Quick rooting question

Just a quick question...
Is the root method that's stickied on the top of the mt4g development page (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996).... and the method found on theunlockr.com (http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/).. essentially the same things?
I tried to follow the method stickied in the development page and was left feeling like an idiot. The unlockr instructions, however, seem to be a bit more dummy friendly.
Any help would be appreciated.. thanks!

Please post questions in Q&A section.

BTW:
Disclaimer/Advice/Humble Opinion:
My advice (without trying to hurt anyone's feelings too much) is DON'T ROOT. I would suggest you familiarize yourself with everything (Linux, ADB, XDA, Google) before diving in head first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. Well; it's not cool to be a n00b and attempt root. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's, boot into Safe mode, Mount R/W, run shell commands or Terminal Emulator etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read, read and re-read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.
If you don't even know what some of the things are that were mentioned, then you should absolutely NOT root your phone. You will likely brick or screw up your phone and then be right back here begging for help in a new thread most definately created by you out of haste or costing [insert phone manufacturer/carrier here] money by sending your phone back and asking for a replacement simply because you had no idea what you were doing. JMHO
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Rooting voids your warranty.
*/

Hmm... two very useless replies.
CB, take a look at how many of the threads posted here in the "General" section are questions. Also, why are you so adamant on having "noobs" not root their phones? What concern is it to you whether someone bricks their own device or not? Isn't that what this forum is for? Did you one day wake up with all the android modding knowledge you have now? I dont think so.. And just because your useless warning thread got stickied up top, doesn't make it a useful thread.
Sorry for the rant.. I just sense that this forum is turning more and more into snobs trying to police what people say or ask for. It's a discussion forum geared toward helping people.. not a country club for snobs trying to remain on their high horses.
/rant.

THis is the method i have used and its very easy to follow...once you do it, it will almost seem to easy, but that is what it is...its very easy to root your phone...follow this guide...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225

darkpaniel said:
Hmm... two very useless replies.
First guy, take a look at how many of the threads posted here in the "General" section are questions.
Second guy, why are you so adamant on having "noobs" not root their phones? What concern is it to you whether someone bricks their own device or not? Isn't that what this forum is for? Did you one day wake up with all the android modding knowledge you have now? I dont think so.. And just because your useless warning thread got stickied up top, doesn't make it a useful thread.
Sorry for the rant.. I just sense that this forum is turning more and more into snobs trying to police what people say or ask for. It's a discussion forum geared toward helping people.. not country club for snobs trying to remain on their high horses.
/rant.
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If you read my post carefully you'll notice that it says advice. It is simply an opinion. If you don't like my advice or my opinion why don't you just shut up and move on.
This forum is about helping people. Helping also includes preventing. Preventing people from breaking their device and avoiding a recovery, especially if it can be avoided.
Sent from my OC'd rooted MT4G using XDA app

CBConsultation said:
If you don't like my advice or my opinion why don't you just shut up and move on.
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....or you can just stop trying to be the savior of this forum and offering useless advice that's clearly common sense to people that are on this forum to begin with.
I'm pretty certain that no one here asked for your personal "advice".. and btw, your useless advice was "DON'T ROOT". Now, how does "DON'T ROOT" help in a thread asking for help rooting? Just doesn't make sense. So instead of pretending like you're this high and mighty android god that has so much to offer.. you should just lay low until someone actually asks for your help. Or maybe, you might get lucky and a "noob" will start a thread asking "Should I Root?". Then you can jump in with your then applicable advice of "DON'T ROOT".
Now, moving on. Can anyone else offer any info as to whether the two methods listed above are the same?
Thanks.

darkpaniel said:
I tried to follow the method stickied in the development page and was left feeling like an idiot.
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Enough said.
Please post questions in the Q&A section.

Ha ha @darkpaniel thats funny. Hence why i just come here and read the posts and not bother asking any questions due to the fact that I dont want a dumb response to my question from someone that thinks they are god and knows everything about android.
Which i'm sure like you said they were a noob once as well.
Hope you got the help you needed and good luck with everything.

I'm sorry.. but since when do we have unofficial forum moderators? I wasn't aware of this position until this CBConsultation guy came around.
CB: Here's a scenario for you....
son: dad, I wanna learn to ride bicycle...could you help me?
dad: no, here's my advice.. just walk, don't ride a bicycle, you can fall off and get hurt...
CB, I feel sorry for your (hopefully) unborn children..

Jay21fire said:
Ha ha @darkpaniel thats funny. Hence why i just come here and read the posts and not bother asking any questions due to the fact that I dont want a dumb response to my question from someone that thinks they are god and knows everything about android.
Which i'm sure like you said they were a noob once as well.
Hope you got the help you needed and good luck with everything.
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Thanks, Jay21fire. Could you imagine this forum without all the helpless know-it-all snobs? I was part of the G1 forum before this.. and I don't remember the people there being half as snobby as here. Maybe that's because then.. there werent so many know-it-all snobs, who's only worth is to know everything about android.. who has to come on these forums and rule the internet. Sad, really.
Anyway, I'm sure I'll find the help I'm looking for. As many useless snobs there are on this forum, I know there's even more humble, helpful people.. so I'm not concerned.

ok...i have already posted the link that is pretty much the same as the unlocker link, just from here...they are not the same thing...the first link is more of a deeper root, which would allow for the flashing of roms, that while based on the same phone...may not be tmobile specific, the second link or the link i had posted, is just a plain ol root
can we now stop the bashing since your question has been answered. i dont agree with CBC on the disclaimer, but that doesnt mean im going to start bashing him to no end...just not needed and a waste of a thread

Fair enough.
Thanks for your help. And mods (actual mods), if you wanna go ahead and lock this thread down, please go ahead and do so.

actually, i just read through the unlocker version and its missing a step...you need to install visionary first before you run the script and all that fun stuff...pretty much what your going to do is download and install visionary (you will need to google it and install it via astro file manager or the like since it is not on the market)...install android terminal explorer via the market and the root files from here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225...unzip those files using winrar and place them on the root of your sdcard. after doing all this, run visionary, and do the temp root...once it says it was succussful (takes a little bit), run the script listed in that same thread (steps 3a - 3d...reboot the phone, and run visionary again, but select attempt permaroot...once it reboots go ahead and make sure you have root access...you can easily check this by loading HBOOT, by holding vol down and power til the phone turns on and making sure it says S= OFF, or if you are going to get into flashing ROMS install ROM manager via the market...when you run it, it will say that you got root access or not and allow you to flash clockwork recovery

woldy2 said:
actually, i just read through the unlocker version and its missing a step...you need to install visionary first before you run the script and all that fun stuff...pretty much what your going to do is download and install visionary (you will need to google it and install it via astro file manager or the like since it is not on the market)...install android terminal explorer via the market and the root files from here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225...unzip those files using winrar and place them on the root of your sdcard. after doing all this, run visionary, and do the temp root...once it says it was succussful (takes a little bit), run the script listed in that same thread (steps 3a - 3d...reboot the phone, and run visionary again, but select attempt permaroot...once it reboots go ahead and make sure you have root access...you can easily check this by loading HBOOT, by holding vol down and power til the phone turns on and making sure it says S= OFF, or if you are going to get into flashing ROMS install ROM manager via the market...when you run it, it will say that you got root access or not and allow you to flash clockwork recovery
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See? That's what I'm talking about. Thanks woldy.

darkpaniel said:
CB: Here's a scenario for you....
son: dad, I wanna learn to ride bicycle...could you help me?
dad: no, here's my advice.. just walk, don't ride a bicycle, you can fall off and get hurt...
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Here's a scenario for you....
son wants to learn to ride a bike and doesn't keep the training wheels on because he's in too much of a hurry to look cool. Isn't quite sure how to stop using the hand brakes and rolls out into the street and gets hit by a passing car.
Dad: That'll teach ya son!
You can act like some sort of internet commando all you want. My advice stands and if you don't like it...well; who cares. I help plenty of people. As for people like you, I love watching you complain like a whiny child.
There will always be those kids who want to argue over everything until they get their way. I just get the feeling you're a young kid who always acts out against the grain trying hard to gain attention from those around you in order to make yourself more noticeable.
I am here to help people and if that includes encouraging members to learn first before they do harm to their device then so be it. And if you don't like or agree with said opinion so what. If I can prevent even one person from ruining their phone before they learn how to use it then I accomplished something.
I have a very successful computer/consultation firm so my advice seems to have gotten me and my clients pretty far in life.
Next...

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(the son)...rolls out into the street and gets hit by a passing car.
Dad: That'll teach ya son!
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Are you kidding? That's what the dad's response would be in your story?... very disturbing.
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I help plenty of people.
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Actually, I was thinking about this.. I was thinking about how many people there could possibly be.. who contemplated rooting their mytouch4g's and came upon your warning thread stickied up top...who read your thread and actually thought to themselves "I've just been delivered by a forum angel! Thank goodness for that thread.. I just saved myself from bricking my brand new phone. What was I thinking to begin with?" Lol.
And then I saw your the link under your avatar to "donate to me"....is that some sort of a joke? Is that supposed to be a mockery of how actual developers accept donations for their work? What have you actually done in this forum.. or others.. what would warrant ANYONE donating ANY sums of money?? I laughed.
Could you imagine.. again... some "noob" coming on this forum.. reading your thread.. thinking "wow, I've just been rescued from a potential hazard. now, where's my credit card, this guy deserves some money"... lol, highly unlikely. So stop fooling yourself.. you're not a mod, you're not a developer. You're just a narcissistic snob who's perception of self importance on this forum is incredibly distorted.
Now, I apologize to everyone for this ongoing bickering between cbc and me. I didn't want to do this, but he just wont leave this thread alone... so I had no choice. Sorry.

LMAO. L0s3r
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Root took me awhile, but I managed to get it with these steps.
1. download visionary, root.zip from the s=on s=off guide. its in the middle of android development section of mytouch 4g.
I had to download Visionary .11 and .14
unzip the root.zip and place the folder on your sd card
After extracting the root file I doubled clicked it and there was another root folder inside which opened to the three files inside including the .sh command so I dragged that over
2. download android terminal emulator from the market
3. go to setting -> application-> turn off fastboot
go to setting -> application-> development -> turn on USB debugging
4. open visionary and click temp root. you will get black screen, dont freak out, give a min (make sure r/w is checked on)
Do this with Visionary .11 NOT .14
5. open android terminal emulator
type in "su" then click entet (without " mark)
it will probably say permission is denied
type in "su" again, then click enter
supper user will pop up asking for permission click "allow"
type in "cd /sdcard/root" then click enter
type in "sh root.sh" then click enter
I couldn't get this command to work until I extracted the compressed file and clicked root, then dragged the root folder over. After typing this command it will say it failed but in a few seconds it will tell you differently, saying to reboot into recovery
give a min or two when it says turn off and go into recovery to check if s is on or off, exit out of emulator
6. turn off the phone, then reboot into hboot by holding volume down and power button
7. it should say S=OFF
now using your volumebutton and power button
navigate to fastboot then reboot
Here is where I installed Visionary .14 and had to click temp root and then permaroot
8. when it reboot go to visionary again and click permenant root
it will reboot your phone
and then I suggest using Rom Manager to download the clockwork recovery and make a backup ASAP.
I installed these apps with astro
and with the root folder it looked like this
compressed root folder > extracted to just the root folder > root folder > three codes/scripts.

hey @darkpaniel honeslty man i would just stop worrying about it, those people are always going to be like that and never change, They just think they are amazing and know everything. I wouldn't waist your time anymore responding to him if people want to root they will root.
I'm over it i have just moved on to other areas to find steps or answers to questions i have

Paid service to Flash New ROM?

Hi Everyone,
I have spent hours trying to root, get S-Off and back up my HTC Desire Z.
It's the first time I have done it and I'm a complete newbie to all of this and it's way out of my level of proficiency.
Even though the guides have been written very well this whole thing is really beyond me.
Is there a paid service or is there someone on here who has done this before a few times that could do this for me remotely? I'd be happy to pay and sit here while you work your magic.
Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction.
Thanks!
Jason

umm, its often not the best idea to give someone access to your computer remotely, but your choice. id suggest trying to find someone local to help you. but there is always more options, often free
first of all there is little expertise needed to do it yourself, and I suggest learning how to root and why the rooting process itself works, as in the future you are bound to run into issues and not understand them, this could lead you to inadvertently brick your phone. for the most part having a rooted phone allows you to do anything to it, meaning a brick is much more possible.
I suggest reading up a bit on the process, finding out what benifits it has, and if you really need this. my guess is you want custom roms and the ablitity to use rooted apps, great, we all do. so do a little reasearch on the pros and cons and you will feel much better about it.
use google, its helpfull, search "cyanogen wiki g2 root" and "xda wiki vision root" and similar terms to find the proper rooting guides. also "reasons to root android"
read through the guides, log onto freenode irc #g2root (google it) and there will be many helpful people there that can explain what to do and why it works.
you'll be much happier and much more well informed. this will help you understand the process so future devices won't be overly complicated to you and lessen the chance for a brick, good luck!
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jason.choy said:
Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction.
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Hi mate,
I'm kinda in the same boat as you but I agree with the others, just stick at practising and you'll get better at it. You've managed to get root right? So that is the hardest part over and you did it. Flashing new ROM should be the easy part.
You can get real time help from the more experience members of this forum by going to this chat site:
Or you could join the irc channel, #G2ROOT on http://webchat.freenode.net/
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where the likes of Nipqer and Setherio will be able to assist providing you ask nicely.
Go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912&page=65 and ask away.

There aren't many guides here that actually work. Trust me, I've had trouble with other G2 phones. The process of downgrading and then rooting the phone is still difficult. The only guide I've ever found to work is this one. Just go down where it says "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD ". It explains how to downgrade, root, and install custom recovery onto your phone.
I can give you a few pointers from the guide.
#1 Get the Android SDK kit. You'll need it just to be able to do anything.
#2 Know some DOS. You may need to get yourself into the Android SDK directory or other directories. For example, cd "" is a great command. All you do is browse to where you need to go in Windows Explorer and right click the bar on top and select "copy address". Just paste that address between the quotations and you would have done half the work in modifying your phone. Also, you can paste stuff right into DOS by right clicking and selecting paste.
#3 Know some Terminal commands. Using "ADB shell" starts a terminal like shell that isn't dos, but is done through dos. Some commands need to be done in pure dos and some through ADB shell. The $ in adb shell means no root, and # means root.

Dukenukemx said:
The only guide I've ever found to work is this one.
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That's the same guide that I used last night to root and it worked perfectly for me. I did have issues with the temp-root to backup but Nipqer helped me out in IRC. It didn't end up working (the backup) but we decided that it didn't matter too much (I just used a different backup utility that did not require root).

I suggest you not to look for a payment method but to try it your self, use a guide or ask help to a friend (or here on xda), it's not so hard.