Just a quick question...
Is the root method that's stickied on the top of the mt4g development page (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996).... and the method found on theunlockr.com (http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/).. essentially the same things?
I tried to follow the method stickied in the development page and was left feeling like an idiot. The unlockr instructions, however, seem to be a bit more dummy friendly.
Any help would be appreciated.. thanks!
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BTW:
Disclaimer/Advice/Humble Opinion:
My advice (without trying to hurt anyone's feelings too much) is DON'T ROOT. I would suggest you familiarize yourself with everything (Linux, ADB, XDA, Google) before diving in head first.
Despite popular belief, having root does NOT in fact make you cooler.
Way too many new users are trying to root because they think it's cool or heard it's cool. Well; it's not cool to be a n00b and attempt root. You need to learn your device first.
If you don't know how to perform a Nandroid backup, or restore a previous ROM backup, flash updates, install custom ROM's, boot into Safe mode, Mount R/W, run shell commands or Terminal Emulator etc, then you should NOT root. You should browse the forums here, read, read and re-read everything until you know it well. Google search related topics. Exhaust all available avenues, then ask questions. After you've executed all of these options you might consider rooting and starting to tinker with your device.
If you don't even know what some of the things are that were mentioned, then you should absolutely NOT root your phone. You will likely brick or screw up your phone and then be right back here begging for help in a new thread most definately created by you out of haste or costing [insert phone manufacturer/carrier here] money by sending your phone back and asking for a replacement simply because you had no idea what you were doing. JMHO
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* Rooting voids your warranty.
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Hmm... two very useless replies.
CB, take a look at how many of the threads posted here in the "General" section are questions. Also, why are you so adamant on having "noobs" not root their phones? What concern is it to you whether someone bricks their own device or not? Isn't that what this forum is for? Did you one day wake up with all the android modding knowledge you have now? I dont think so.. And just because your useless warning thread got stickied up top, doesn't make it a useful thread.
Sorry for the rant.. I just sense that this forum is turning more and more into snobs trying to police what people say or ask for. It's a discussion forum geared toward helping people.. not a country club for snobs trying to remain on their high horses.
/rant.
THis is the method i have used and its very easy to follow...once you do it, it will almost seem to easy, but that is what it is...its very easy to root your phone...follow this guide...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
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Hmm... two very useless replies.
First guy, take a look at how many of the threads posted here in the "General" section are questions.
Second guy, why are you so adamant on having "noobs" not root their phones? What concern is it to you whether someone bricks their own device or not? Isn't that what this forum is for? Did you one day wake up with all the android modding knowledge you have now? I dont think so.. And just because your useless warning thread got stickied up top, doesn't make it a useful thread.
Sorry for the rant.. I just sense that this forum is turning more and more into snobs trying to police what people say or ask for. It's a discussion forum geared toward helping people.. not country club for snobs trying to remain on their high horses.
/rant.
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If you read my post carefully you'll notice that it says advice. It is simply an opinion. If you don't like my advice or my opinion why don't you just shut up and move on.
This forum is about helping people. Helping also includes preventing. Preventing people from breaking their device and avoiding a recovery, especially if it can be avoided.
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CBConsultation said:
If you don't like my advice or my opinion why don't you just shut up and move on.
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....or you can just stop trying to be the savior of this forum and offering useless advice that's clearly common sense to people that are on this forum to begin with.
I'm pretty certain that no one here asked for your personal "advice".. and btw, your useless advice was "DON'T ROOT". Now, how does "DON'T ROOT" help in a thread asking for help rooting? Just doesn't make sense. So instead of pretending like you're this high and mighty android god that has so much to offer.. you should just lay low until someone actually asks for your help. Or maybe, you might get lucky and a "noob" will start a thread asking "Should I Root?". Then you can jump in with your then applicable advice of "DON'T ROOT".
Now, moving on. Can anyone else offer any info as to whether the two methods listed above are the same?
Thanks.
darkpaniel said:
I tried to follow the method stickied in the development page and was left feeling like an idiot.
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Enough said.
Please post questions in the Q&A section.
Ha ha @darkpaniel thats funny. Hence why i just come here and read the posts and not bother asking any questions due to the fact that I dont want a dumb response to my question from someone that thinks they are god and knows everything about android.
Which i'm sure like you said they were a noob once as well.
Hope you got the help you needed and good luck with everything.
I'm sorry.. but since when do we have unofficial forum moderators? I wasn't aware of this position until this CBConsultation guy came around.
CB: Here's a scenario for you....
son: dad, I wanna learn to ride bicycle...could you help me?
dad: no, here's my advice.. just walk, don't ride a bicycle, you can fall off and get hurt...
CB, I feel sorry for your (hopefully) unborn children..
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Ha ha @darkpaniel thats funny. Hence why i just come here and read the posts and not bother asking any questions due to the fact that I dont want a dumb response to my question from someone that thinks they are god and knows everything about android.
Which i'm sure like you said they were a noob once as well.
Hope you got the help you needed and good luck with everything.
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Thanks, Jay21fire. Could you imagine this forum without all the helpless know-it-all snobs? I was part of the G1 forum before this.. and I don't remember the people there being half as snobby as here. Maybe that's because then.. there werent so many know-it-all snobs, who's only worth is to know everything about android.. who has to come on these forums and rule the internet. Sad, really.
Anyway, I'm sure I'll find the help I'm looking for. As many useless snobs there are on this forum, I know there's even more humble, helpful people.. so I'm not concerned.
ok...i have already posted the link that is pretty much the same as the unlocker link, just from here...they are not the same thing...the first link is more of a deeper root, which would allow for the flashing of roms, that while based on the same phone...may not be tmobile specific, the second link or the link i had posted, is just a plain ol root
can we now stop the bashing since your question has been answered. i dont agree with CBC on the disclaimer, but that doesnt mean im going to start bashing him to no end...just not needed and a waste of a thread
Fair enough.
Thanks for your help. And mods (actual mods), if you wanna go ahead and lock this thread down, please go ahead and do so.
actually, i just read through the unlocker version and its missing a step...you need to install visionary first before you run the script and all that fun stuff...pretty much what your going to do is download and install visionary (you will need to google it and install it via astro file manager or the like since it is not on the market)...install android terminal explorer via the market and the root files from here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225...unzip those files using winrar and place them on the root of your sdcard. after doing all this, run visionary, and do the temp root...once it says it was succussful (takes a little bit), run the script listed in that same thread (steps 3a - 3d...reboot the phone, and run visionary again, but select attempt permaroot...once it reboots go ahead and make sure you have root access...you can easily check this by loading HBOOT, by holding vol down and power til the phone turns on and making sure it says S= OFF, or if you are going to get into flashing ROMS install ROM manager via the market...when you run it, it will say that you got root access or not and allow you to flash clockwork recovery
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actually, i just read through the unlocker version and its missing a step...you need to install visionary first before you run the script and all that fun stuff...pretty much what your going to do is download and install visionary (you will need to google it and install it via astro file manager or the like since it is not on the market)...install android terminal explorer via the market and the root files from here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225...unzip those files using winrar and place them on the root of your sdcard. after doing all this, run visionary, and do the temp root...once it says it was succussful (takes a little bit), run the script listed in that same thread (steps 3a - 3d...reboot the phone, and run visionary again, but select attempt permaroot...once it reboots go ahead and make sure you have root access...you can easily check this by loading HBOOT, by holding vol down and power til the phone turns on and making sure it says S= OFF, or if you are going to get into flashing ROMS install ROM manager via the market...when you run it, it will say that you got root access or not and allow you to flash clockwork recovery
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See? That's what I'm talking about. Thanks woldy.
darkpaniel said:
CB: Here's a scenario for you....
son: dad, I wanna learn to ride bicycle...could you help me?
dad: no, here's my advice.. just walk, don't ride a bicycle, you can fall off and get hurt...
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Here's a scenario for you....
son wants to learn to ride a bike and doesn't keep the training wheels on because he's in too much of a hurry to look cool. Isn't quite sure how to stop using the hand brakes and rolls out into the street and gets hit by a passing car.
Dad: That'll teach ya son!
You can act like some sort of internet commando all you want. My advice stands and if you don't like it...well; who cares. I help plenty of people. As for people like you, I love watching you complain like a whiny child.
There will always be those kids who want to argue over everything until they get their way. I just get the feeling you're a young kid who always acts out against the grain trying hard to gain attention from those around you in order to make yourself more noticeable.
I am here to help people and if that includes encouraging members to learn first before they do harm to their device then so be it. And if you don't like or agree with said opinion so what. If I can prevent even one person from ruining their phone before they learn how to use it then I accomplished something.
I have a very successful computer/consultation firm so my advice seems to have gotten me and my clients pretty far in life.
Next...
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(the son)...rolls out into the street and gets hit by a passing car.
Dad: That'll teach ya son!
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Are you kidding? That's what the dad's response would be in your story?... very disturbing.
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I help plenty of people.
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Actually, I was thinking about this.. I was thinking about how many people there could possibly be.. who contemplated rooting their mytouch4g's and came upon your warning thread stickied up top...who read your thread and actually thought to themselves "I've just been delivered by a forum angel! Thank goodness for that thread.. I just saved myself from bricking my brand new phone. What was I thinking to begin with?" Lol.
And then I saw your the link under your avatar to "donate to me"....is that some sort of a joke? Is that supposed to be a mockery of how actual developers accept donations for their work? What have you actually done in this forum.. or others.. what would warrant ANYONE donating ANY sums of money?? I laughed.
Could you imagine.. again... some "noob" coming on this forum.. reading your thread.. thinking "wow, I've just been rescued from a potential hazard. now, where's my credit card, this guy deserves some money"... lol, highly unlikely. So stop fooling yourself.. you're not a mod, you're not a developer. You're just a narcissistic snob who's perception of self importance on this forum is incredibly distorted.
Now, I apologize to everyone for this ongoing bickering between cbc and me. I didn't want to do this, but he just wont leave this thread alone... so I had no choice. Sorry.
LMAO. L0s3r
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Root took me awhile, but I managed to get it with these steps.
1. download visionary, root.zip from the s=on s=off guide. its in the middle of android development section of mytouch 4g.
I had to download Visionary .11 and .14
unzip the root.zip and place the folder on your sd card
After extracting the root file I doubled clicked it and there was another root folder inside which opened to the three files inside including the .sh command so I dragged that over
2. download android terminal emulator from the market
3. go to setting -> application-> turn off fastboot
go to setting -> application-> development -> turn on USB debugging
4. open visionary and click temp root. you will get black screen, dont freak out, give a min (make sure r/w is checked on)
Do this with Visionary .11 NOT .14
5. open android terminal emulator
type in "su" then click entet (without " mark)
it will probably say permission is denied
type in "su" again, then click enter
supper user will pop up asking for permission click "allow"
type in "cd /sdcard/root" then click enter
type in "sh root.sh" then click enter
I couldn't get this command to work until I extracted the compressed file and clicked root, then dragged the root folder over. After typing this command it will say it failed but in a few seconds it will tell you differently, saying to reboot into recovery
give a min or two when it says turn off and go into recovery to check if s is on or off, exit out of emulator
6. turn off the phone, then reboot into hboot by holding volume down and power button
7. it should say S=OFF
now using your volumebutton and power button
navigate to fastboot then reboot
Here is where I installed Visionary .14 and had to click temp root and then permaroot
8. when it reboot go to visionary again and click permenant root
it will reboot your phone
and then I suggest using Rom Manager to download the clockwork recovery and make a backup ASAP.
I installed these apps with astro
and with the root folder it looked like this
compressed root folder > extracted to just the root folder > root folder > three codes/scripts.
hey @darkpaniel honeslty man i would just stop worrying about it, those people are always going to be like that and never change, They just think they are amazing and know everything. I wouldn't waist your time anymore responding to him if people want to root they will root.
I'm over it i have just moved on to other areas to find steps or answers to questions i have
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I'm sure you guys here at XDA don't hear it enough so let me just say thanks. I've spent the last hour changing my G1 from RC30 to JF 1.51. it took most of the time figuring out that the terminal program I was using wasn't giving me root, I did some smart using of the "search" function and realized I had to use pterminal.apk. but to say the least I'm up to date with cupcake, and I have root. You might want to update the how-to thread. Now just to get it so I can run apps of my sdcard... search away!
thats good to hear people rooting their phone without having to start like 10 threads on how they did it or what they need to do.
getting it setup is a little harder then I'd hoped, I'm trying to figure out how to set it up so my terminal has root access. I thought I would still have root, however the terminal that comes with JF 1.51 is just giving me the $ sign.
what happens when you press su in the terminal??
its supposed to ask you if you wanna allow it or deny it and it goes on the whitelist program.
Thanks! I missed that step somewhere. I am unfortunately a windows users, so I don't have the know-how with linux, it's an unfortunate blite on my record. I'm trying though! lol
Denkai said:
Thanks! I missed that step somewhere. I am unfortunately a windows users, so I don't have the know-how with linux, it's an unfortunate blite on my record. I'm trying though! lol
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i myself am a windows user also... most of the steps here are for windows, unless otherwise noted.
but yeah when you enter su in the terminal for the first time it should ask you for permission
crap, I was using the appstosd2 program and now my phone is stuck on the g1 screen... a recovery with wipe didn't help either.
Hey guys - I'm new to this forum, but I figure if anyone can help me, someone here can.
So, my bro got ahold of my phone and rooted it and installed Axura 2.2.5.9.
Since there is a newer version, I would like to throw it on and work out a few glitches and get whatever tweaks were put there.
So, how do I go about updating this thing? If anyone has the time or the patience, I would love to hear this in layman's terms.
Like:
Step 1 - download 'this file'
Step 2 - Plug phone in and drag/drop to 'folder x' on 'internal/external sd'
Etc. I came from an iPhone and all the lingo is different - like jailbreaking vs rooting. And saying "flash" instead of "load" or ROM instead of OS.
I would just like to update, but I'd liek to not be confused by all the different slang.
Thanks, anyone, for putting your 2 cents in to help a brother out.
this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
will answer all your questions
After you read the noob guide, feel free to PM me if you need clarification... I would also be curious to know if you think it could be improved. I wrote it trying to cater to the noob.
Just install download the rom you want on the sd (internal memory, dont save it in any folder) then boot into recovery (you should be able to do so by simply holding the power button for a second) now choose install zip from sd or sth like that and pick the rom file. The end.
Sent from my JPJPM V2 powered SGH-T959 using XDA App
full instructions easily available on the d4a site
click the link in my sig go down to vibrant section > roms> read the op
Its exactly like flashing any other rom, only difference being that you have an axuraXXXX.zip instead of ANYOTHERROM.zip
Cheers.
Just remember to backup your apps, since the new rom will wipe your phone.
To be safe, you may want to make a nandroid backup in CWR... always nice to have something to fall back on.
The guide has more detail like these steps, but yes, everyone is right in saying just download it and flash it. I think it's important to backup everything.
The Noob Guide is really well written. My problem now is I cant find the file to download!
A Rom you mean? You can find those in the development forum along with other tools you may need to run/flash it.
Here's a link just in case you don't know where that is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=711
Yes, the ROM. I went to the daily bible thread and tried to click "Download" on the Axura subsection. It gave me an "Error 404 - file not found".
Just open one of the threads in the form link I just gave you and look for the ROM you wanted, then check the first post there for the download link.
I did that. That's when I get the Error 404.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949372
They must have pulled that rom of the server or the host did that. Just go for another one, plenty of options out there and quite frankly Axura isn't exactly the most sought after roms around here.
Axura is truly in need of a 2.2.1 update, but seeing as though Master is happy with his Nexus, it will never be getting one. And quite frankly, Eugene's gingerclone roms, trigger, or any of the i9000 ports run much smoother to me.
Ding forget he has also gotten a thunderbolt, I thought about picking up dev on axura but I have no where near enough time to mess with it, but I agree axura is in dire need of an update to 2.2.1
This post Trigger'd by my Vibrant
THANKS GUYS
I just got Trigger and so far so good.
My only issue is that I couldnt figure out how to restore my apps in Ti. Looked like there were 0 files backed up. Oh well. One at a time.
Alright, I'm unbanned so now I can post the latest iteration of how your phone should be rooted by batch script.
Note: This script is actually still being developed so if I break something in the script by adding something else it will be fixed. I don't have a shift to test on and I don't have any money. From what I know, my friend did indeed test this and it's working 100% so now lets move on to features.
FEATURES:
Wimax backup and restore - after the root process/misc.img flash
MD5 hash check for misc.img before and after.
Temproot
Hboot flash
Choices to ask what you want (Y/N questions)
asks if you already rooted with fre3vo and if so, takes you to the reroot script.
Credits?
OTAking71 and scaryghoul. (Hboot patch)
Otaking again just for beta testing my script on his spare shift.
Agrabren for releasing fre3vo
Me for writing this batch file from nothing but the instructions in the hboot downgrade thread.
Download link?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15069134/fre3atlast_v_2.7.2.zip
Github:https://github.com/xIndirect/Fre3atlast
Note: This script is made by me and may not be modified, reposted, or shared without my permission.
Reason I don't want you to modify it is because of the fact that I don't want anyone to break the script which can break the phones! Remember: Batch is very particular about function calling!
Code:
Changelog:
Updated to 2.7.2
Corrected output for link thats echoed into a text file.
Changed how it provides download links due to wget not cooperating correctly.
Added automatic function of checking MD5
added install.bat script for post-downgrade install of z4root and visionary
added automatic downloading of misc.img if bad md5
added downloading of choice between PG06IMG.zip or the exe RUU to downgrade
added wget to allow for downloading of the aforementioned files.
added device check
maybe some other slight things I'm forgetting
Quick developers note:
Everyone, I wrote Fre3AtLast as an improvement on the original script since it had some un-needed lines in it. I am not going to tolerate anyone else acting childish over this and the difference between devnull's and my script. It's just a more efficient way other than his and I still give him credit for giving me the original idea to create/improve on his script.
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NOICE
Flawless victory.
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Wimax Backup script doesn't quite work, but everything else seems golden.
Add a `mkdir /sdcard/WiMax;` before the DD and you'd probably be good to go.
Figured I mucked up somewhere in the wimax backup script. I''ll add it really quick
Awesome!!!!! worked great!
what are the steps on running this other than having a GB shift that's not rooted temp or perm ?
You just have to extract to your desktop *in its own folder preferably* then you just run the Fre3atlast.bat and poof; you're rooted.
VIDEO
You wouldn't have a video or a step by step guide going through this would you.
Thanks! Worked flawlessly! Unlike a different one I fought with for two days. lol
Cheers!
Syanptic, you dont need one. It tells you what you do by asking you. Just be honest to the script and your rooted
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sounds easy...
It sounds easy, but personally when possible I like to see what I'm about to do, yah know see the step by step to make sure I know whats going on before I dive in.
In the end, I'm just paranoid I'm gonna brick my phone. and hearing "its just that simple" isn't all that comforting for something that took a long time for people to work out.
Also does this requires froyo?
it tells you what its about to do by confirming if you want to do it. Perhaps if you ended up using the script or even reading it, you would have learned that. Im not being a **** but people need to learn to read. Also, it is just that simple. It had to be figured out but the implication of it is much easier than having to find it as is true with everything else.
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Indirect said:
it tells you what its about to do by confirming if you want to do it. Perhaps if you ended up using the script or even reading it, you would have learned that. Im not being a **** but people need to learn to read. Also, it is just that simple. It had to be figured out but the implication of it is much easier than having to find it as is true with everything else.
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Yeah, I got that, in fact I opened the .bat in notepad.
lets see what instructions it outputs.
-have you rooted before? y/n
-clearing cache
-if the misc.img MD5 as well as the the original MD5. (I am assuming its outputting a code sum to check if the file is good)
-there are only 2 times this will stop... run? y/n
-if you want to continue hit y, if not n
-this is happening if you want to flash Hboot misc.img to be able to downgrade. -this is from saying N to the first choice (i assume this references the have you rooted before question
-congrats, your rooted, thank people
now I may have missed something, but that's not exactly explanation. Also no where in this thread does it say if you can or can't use this in gingerbread.
Your response is why I typically avoid forums and rooting, people offer help and then chastise you and or call you stupid for asking questions. If you think its a dumb question that you don't feel you need to answer just don't respond. Its better off that way than insulting people that came to you for help.
Clearly, I am hesitant about rooting my phone. I know enough to know that if you do something wrong when trying to root a device you can brick it. You can't really blame me for wanting to understand what I'm about to do. Also, saying I would know if I ran it is pointless, the reason I asked the question is because I wanted to know what it did BEFORE I ran it.
I am a little confused at this point from all the different posts saying you need this or you need that or beware if your using this so on and so forth. Yeah, I'm not a master programmer, its not my field. I don't have all the time in the world to figure this out on my own. If HTC would just open up root I would probably use that. But that's not the case so I'm here. Have some freaking courtesy.
what am I missing//? "error: device not found"
AllanGreg said:
what am I missing//? "error: device not found"
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I had to install HTC Sync before it would work.
http://dl3.htc.com/application/HTCSyncv3.0.5579.exe
SynapticMeltdown said:
It sounds easy, but personally when possible I like to see what I'm about to do, yah know see the step by step to make sure I know whats going on before I dive in.
In the end, I'm just paranoid I'm gonna brick my phone. and hearing "its just that simple" isn't all that comforting for something that took a long time for people to work out.
Also does this requires froyo?
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With all due respect to Indirect read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277448
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With all due respect to Indirect read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277448
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I agree that anyone rooting should read the downgrade information provided by scary, but tbh i wish i would have used the one click root when i first started. I have neither the time nor inclination to learn anymore about rooting than what it take to make my phone to run awesomely, and there are many root-users just like me.
im not going to run a batch on my phone unless its been tested and verified on an actual shift.
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Yeah, I got that, in fact I opened the .bat in notepad.
lets see what instructions it outputs.
-have you rooted before? y/n
-clearing cache
-if the misc.img MD5 as well as the the original MD5. (I am assuming its outputting a code sum to check if the file is good)
-there are only 2 times this will stop... run? y/n
-if you want to continue hit y, if not n
-this is happening if you want to flash Hboot misc.img to be able to downgrade. -this is from saying N to the first choice (i assume this references the have you rooted before question
-congrats, your rooted, thank people
now I may have missed something, but that's not exactly explanation. Also no where in this thread does it say if you can or can't use this in gingerbread.
Your response is why I typically avoid forums and rooting, people offer help and then chastise you and or call you stupid for asking questions. If you think its a dumb question that you don't feel you need to answer just don't respond. Its better off that way than insulting people that came to you for help.
Clearly, I am hesitant about rooting my phone. I know enough to know that if you do something wrong when trying to root a device you can brick it. You can't really blame me for wanting to understand what I'm about to do. Also, saying I would know if I ran it is pointless, the reason I asked the question is because I wanted to know what it did BEFORE I ran it.
I am a little confused at this point from all the different posts saying you need this or you need that or beware if your using this so on and so forth. Yeah, I'm not a master programmer, its not my field. I don't have all the time in the world to figure this out on my own. If HTC would just open up root I would probably use that. But that's not the case so I'm here. Have some freaking courtesy.
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Indirect is just mad that he broke his hand
If you haven't already I'd read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255474 Scary does a good job of explaining what you're doing. You might actually find that you prefer to do the whole process manually. It's not hard, it's just a matter of following the instructions. It's very satisfying to root manually, you really feel that you've earned it.
And to answer your question, the actual perm rooting does require you to be on Froyo but the downgrade from Gingerbread to Froyo is part of this process.
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Indirect is just mad that he broke his hand
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lol
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Jesusice is right, I'm pissed that i broke my hand. He's mad thats hes married and not getting laid as much as me. :3
Anyway, this has been tested and verified on a shift, multiple actually. I think that if you cant use this script, it's user-error as it does a decent job in explaining. It asks if you rooted before, if no, it roots, flashes hboot (after confirmation for flashing hboot as well) then it even backs up wimax for you.
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It sounds easy, but personally when possible I like to see what I'm about to do, yah know see the step by step to make sure I know whats going on before I dive in.
In the end, I'm just paranoid I'm gonna brick my phone. and hearing "its just that simple" isn't all that comforting for something that took a long time for people to work out.
Also does this requires froyo?
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If i'm not mistaken this downgrades you and also roots you. Also you have to take risk if you wanna root your phone. Its a big plunge yes but out of all the comments not one person has bricked their phone and also this has been tested many times before. If you too scared to do this than you might not want to root your phone in the first place
Hi Everyone,
I have spent hours trying to root, get S-Off and back up my HTC Desire Z.
It's the first time I have done it and I'm a complete newbie to all of this and it's way out of my level of proficiency.
Even though the guides have been written very well this whole thing is really beyond me.
Is there a paid service or is there someone on here who has done this before a few times that could do this for me remotely? I'd be happy to pay and sit here while you work your magic.
Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction.
Thanks!
Jason
umm, its often not the best idea to give someone access to your computer remotely, but your choice. id suggest trying to find someone local to help you. but there is always more options, often free
first of all there is little expertise needed to do it yourself, and I suggest learning how to root and why the rooting process itself works, as in the future you are bound to run into issues and not understand them, this could lead you to inadvertently brick your phone. for the most part having a rooted phone allows you to do anything to it, meaning a brick is much more possible.
I suggest reading up a bit on the process, finding out what benifits it has, and if you really need this. my guess is you want custom roms and the ablitity to use rooted apps, great, we all do. so do a little reasearch on the pros and cons and you will feel much better about it.
use google, its helpfull, search "cyanogen wiki g2 root" and "xda wiki vision root" and similar terms to find the proper rooting guides. also "reasons to root android"
read through the guides, log onto freenode irc #g2root (google it) and there will be many helpful people there that can explain what to do and why it works.
you'll be much happier and much more well informed. this will help you understand the process so future devices won't be overly complicated to you and lessen the chance for a brick, good luck!
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
You get good at it the same way you get to Carnegie Hall: practice.
Sent from Spaceball One.
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Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction.
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Hi mate,
I'm kinda in the same boat as you but I agree with the others, just stick at practising and you'll get better at it. You've managed to get root right? So that is the hardest part over and you did it. Flashing new ROM should be the easy part.
You can get real time help from the more experience members of this forum by going to this chat site:
Or you could join the irc channel, #G2ROOT on http://webchat.freenode.net/
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where the likes of Nipqer and Setherio will be able to assist providing you ask nicely.
Go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912&page=65 and ask away.
There aren't many guides here that actually work. Trust me, I've had trouble with other G2 phones. The process of downgrading and then rooting the phone is still difficult. The only guide I've ever found to work is this one. Just go down where it says "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD ". It explains how to downgrade, root, and install custom recovery onto your phone.
I can give you a few pointers from the guide.
#1 Get the Android SDK kit. You'll need it just to be able to do anything.
#2 Know some DOS. You may need to get yourself into the Android SDK directory or other directories. For example, cd "" is a great command. All you do is browse to where you need to go in Windows Explorer and right click the bar on top and select "copy address". Just paste that address between the quotations and you would have done half the work in modifying your phone. Also, you can paste stuff right into DOS by right clicking and selecting paste.
#3 Know some Terminal commands. Using "ADB shell" starts a terminal like shell that isn't dos, but is done through dos. Some commands need to be done in pure dos and some through ADB shell. The $ in adb shell means no root, and # means root.
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The only guide I've ever found to work is this one.
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That's the same guide that I used last night to root and it worked perfectly for me. I did have issues with the temp-root to backup but Nipqer helped me out in IRC. It didn't end up working (the backup) but we decided that it didn't matter too much (I just used a different backup utility that did not require root).
I suggest you not to look for a payment method but to try it your self, use a guide or ask help to a friend (or here on xda), it's not so hard.
Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
To get root just install supersu
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Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
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Did a Google search for "sugar qct" and I see a couple of million hits for "The Sugar Act"... :laugh:
Tried Root Genius, and it, of course doesn't work...
If you happen to find a link for the app or method you stated, I would be eternally grateful... My lovely wife and I upgraded our phones to the Cricket 6055U, and, since, while not an Android developer, per se, can find my way around the device without being scared off...
So, with due respect, I'd ask if you have the app or name correct?
Thanks, friend, and best respect.
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Oops... was premature... found it and am giving it a try... I'll post my results after I give it a shot...
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f606/vf-895n-smart-prime-6-stock-rom-flash-tool-2033867/
This should help with setting up sugar. The only difference here is to update it and you also need a username and password that I don't have on me at the moment. It will be a few hours until I get home but I will update asap.
Edit: nevermind lol, good luck friend. You may need a decent battery percentage as well
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Did a Google search for "sugar qct" and I see a couple of million hits for "The Sugar Act"... :laugh:
Tried Root Genius, and it, of course doesn't work...
If you happen to find a link for the app or method you stated, I would be eternally grateful... My lovely wife and I upgraded our phones to the Cricket 6055U, and, since, while not an Android developer, per se, can find my way around the device without being scared off...
So, with due respect, I'd ask if you have the app or name correct?
Thanks, friend, and best respect.
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Oops... was premature... found it and am giving it a try... I'll post my results after I give it a shot...
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OK... apparently I'm an idiot... Running Windows 10 Pro, and the installer says it's going to install to an appropriate folder on C:\... yet, trying to find it, it really is weird.... I'm going to try on a VMWare Win 7 virtual PC, and see if I'm able to find it there, and move it to my actual C: drive...
If it works, I'll be grateful for your contribution and praise you to the highest heaven! :laugh:
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OK... apparently I'm an idiot... Running Windows 10 Pro, and the installer says it's going to install to an appropriate folder on C:\... yet, trying to find it, it really is weird.... I'm going to try on a VMWare Win 7 virtual PC, and see if I'm able to find it there, and move it to my actual C: drive...
If it works, I'll be grateful for your contribution and praise you to the highest heaven! :laugh:
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Can't seem to get the beast to work...
If you would be so kind, would there be any way you'd be able to write up a concise step-by-step thing, if you've made it work... I've got the .chm file open on my desktop, and have spent a few hours trying to make it work to no avail.
Again, if it worked for you, your process would be welcome.
Cricket Alcatel Idol 4, 6055U
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Can't seem to get the beast to work...
If you would be so kind, would there be any way you'd be able to write up a concise step-by-step thing, if you've made it work... I've got the .chm file open on my desktop, and have spent a few hours trying to make it work to no avail.
Again, if it worked for you, your process would be welcome.
Cricket Alcatel Idol 4, 6055U
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My point is that the site recommended seems to insist on Lollipop on the small beast... and there doesn't seem to be a recommendation for the .bin files, and, when installing on Win 10, it seems to install the Sugar app into some directory on my C: drive that is really not that accessible... Did it using a VMWare Win 7 32-bit virtual, and was able to access the directory, copy and paste to my regular C: drive (old Windows geek since Win 3.11... and DOS 3), and it seemed to run... (of course, running as Administrator), but it really doesn't seem to work for me... Again, I freely admit that I'm likely not doing something right, but even after some research and the included .chm file, I seem to be missing something.
Again, and begging your indulgence for seeming like a noob or a rube, but if I'm not making it happen, I rather think that the tips would be lost on someone for whom this is their first Android device...
Kinda frustrating, as, even though I've been a tech-support guy and database developer for more than 30 years, this thing has me stymied...
I found it fascinating for the *#*# command, earlier, from another noble soul, and, obviously, I also found that the device as configured says, basically... "Don't give a damn... you can turn this sucker on, but as soon as you exit this menu, I'm gonna turn it off again."
Just a little frustrating, and it seems that most of the tips and tricks elsewhere seem to be thinking that new owners of the 6055U are running Lollipop.... aaarrrgggghhh....
If it needs Lollipop to work, and if there's a relatively painless way to downgrade, and then upgrade from a ROM, I'm good with that... the Idol 3 seemed to require that, and it worked well for me, with just an evening's work. This one? Cricket seems to have had a warped sense of humor about it... I seriously dig the device, and, since my Idol 3 broke, and my lovely wife's LG G-Stylo (which was a pain in the ass, and next-to-impossible to root, and then be just perpetually stuck at the logo screen with an unfixable boot loop, if one screwed it up, and just required sending the beast back to LG, as long as one took out Cricket's warranty plan... <sigh>), we took the plunge on this one...
Not much for which I require root, but, since I spent good money on some legit apps (and lucked into a few ... ahem... not legit apps that worked for me), these things require root... I know there's a way to do it, and the Sugar app seems promising, but, mildly autistic guy that I am (and 60 years old, with a memory that doesn't work as it used to), a slimmed-down step-by-step doc would be helpful... should some noble soul put such together...
Apparently, the root method has worked for at least one member here.... But this weird old Jewish hippie doesn't see the mental diagram....
Any help would be welcome, my friends and mishpocheh... ("dear family" --- been here enough years, albeit a relatively quiet member, that y'all might as well be family... )
Hey everyone, sorry about the confusion. I installed on Windows 10 pro with no issues. As far as the page I linked you can disregard everything but the app itself. The update that downloads is marshmallow, and I've had no issues overwriting the latest version. I may have gotten sugar from a different location though, as soon as I get a chance I will do a better write up with everything. A helpful way to find the install directory would be right click on the shortcut from the start menu and click find Target / open file location. If it brings you to the folder with the shortcuts do it again and you will have the install directory. The app should be in (install dir)/tool and the downloaded updates go in (install dir)/bin under a folder that only shows up once you start the process within sugar. I will try to compile the information into a more user friendly format tonight but I can't make any promises on that.
Also just to clarify, I didn't use any chm file
I'm wondering if you could upload your version you have on your pc. I just spent the last month in jail here in Orlando fighting a case and the only proof I've got is on my phone on a phone that I deleted my videos on. I really need the videos back too get a not guilty if I gotta pay for it it's cool but I'm out on bond and all the recover videos apps require root
I got this to work last night. Typed up some instructions but didn't get them posted. They're on my PC at home and I'm at work.
Basically use the copy of sugar in the download package in this thread and then start it and let it update https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/recovery-vodafone-prime-tab-7-t3548560
Those are the basic instructions too except we don't need to swap out bout and use the TWRP from deckersu thread.
Once flashed it'll automatically reboot. I found you had to make sure you caught this and booted into TWRP right away don't let the phone boot. Then transfer SuperSU in TWRP and flash.
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Asadullah said:
I'm wondering if you could upload your version you have on your pc. I just spent the last month in jail here in Orlando fighting a case and the only proof I've got is on my phone on a phone that I deleted my videos on. I really need the videos back too get a not guilty if I gotta pay for it it's cool but I'm out on bond an ind all the recover videos apps require root
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FYI this root method wipes your phone so I don't know if this will help your situation or not.
In sugar there is an option to not wipe, it's under session settings or something to that effect
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In sugar there is an option to not wipe, it's under session settings or something to that effect
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Wish I had noticed that!! Oh well, stoked to have root and it's good to start fresh. Got Xposed installed today and finally got that annoying charging light turned off. Working on getting wifi tetherng working. Then if I can figure out how to get the dialer to be friends with Google voice this phone will have all its annoyance fixed
Thanks so much for figuring this out and sharing!!
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In sugar there is an option to not wipe, it's under session settings or something to that effect
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Appreciate the help
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/recovery-vodafone-prime-tab-7-t3548560.
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Thank you for finding this thread, it is the same one I found but I couldn't remember where it was the other day when I started this thread. Hopefully this will help the people who have been having issues, although I will admit a more painless method would be preferable. I'm currently working on modifying a dirtycow exploit to simply flash the recovery and reboot into twrp, if I get it to work I will zip it all up and post it here.
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Wish I had noticed that!! Oh well, stoked to have root and it's good to start fresh. Got Xposed installed today and finally got that annoying charging light turned off. Working on getting wifi tetherng working. Then if I can figure out how to get the dialer to be friends with Google voice this phone will have all its annoyance fixed
Thanks so much for figuring this out and sharing!!
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I got wifi tethering working I did a lot of things but I believe that did it was adding net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to my build.prop then I went into system/app and changed serviceentitlement.apk into serviceentitlement.oat using es file Explorer
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I got wifi tethering working I did a lot of things but I believe that did it was adding net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to my build.prop then I went into system/app and changed serviceentitlement.apk into serviceentitlement.oat using es file Explorer
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I just tested this and it indeed does work. Great find friend!
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I got wifi tethering working I did a lot of things but I believe that did it was adding net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to my build.prop then I went into system/app and changed serviceentitlement.apk into serviceentitlement.oat using es file Explorer
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Thanks for figuring this out!!! I'd been messing with it for a few days. The renaming the apk to .oat was the piece I was missing. That and a reboot got it working!!
dbgr said:
Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
To get root just install supersu
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so im getting ready to purchase this device so there is root and twrp for it or no
Dude, did you read the thread at all? I don't mind helping but you gotta do your part. Yes there is TWRP and Root
dbgr said:
Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
To get root just install supersu
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do you hold volume down when it reboots
link22534 said:
do you hold volume down when it reboots
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It's volume up and power