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I got a used wizard today,it is a few weeks old I also got a cradle with it.
I pluged in the cradle to the USB port and the charger to power, after playing with it for 1-2 hours I placed the wizard on the cradle to charge and after a few mins i noticed that it was over heating. I removed it from the cradle right away and noticed that the battery was droping 1% every minute or so. After it was down to 27% i removed the charger and left only the usb connection and placed the wizard on the cradle again. it was charging fine, when it was up to 90% removed it from the cradle and again was droping fast.
When it was down to around 25-30% of the battery I did a soft reset and since then I can never get it to start again also the red charging light does not show.
What the heck is wrong with it? I also get a light burning smell from the bottom of the wizard where the connector is located.
Any help?
I need your lights guys.
Don't like the sound of the light burning smell, that sounds like an electrical fault. It looks like your battery has died and the wizard battery setup is well known to do this. You need to plug it into the official mains charger (not the usb one) as this has an output of 1A, enough to kick start the wizard battery into life and start the charging. You need to wait a short while though before the light comes on. If this fails try to get a new battery and try that. Any more light burning smells and it needs to go back to the supplier.
I would suggest that you send it back to replace/repair. The rapid dropping of the battery power suggest that it is using power somewhere (illegally). I've heard cases of battery caught on fire, etc. and I won't suggest you to use it anymore until you sort out the 'burning' smell.
First of all thanks for your replys.
I pluged the charger on it and the red charging light came on after a while.
charged for over 6 hours and its still red? I think after been charged should change to green? right?
anyways after all that still doesnt want to turn on. I got it to start a couple of times but only to the point that shows the splash screen with the rom numbers and then it turns back off.
Should I give it a smash across the room on the wall? done that with some other things and worked just kiding.
Forgot to add that up to the point when i did the soft reset the device was working fine except the charge drop. Soft reset was done while it was working ( turned on)..... if thats any help.
i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info
fonec said:
i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info
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That ain't gonna do jack sh1t to it. If it can't start to get into bootloader, it can't flash....and it's not a flash issue.
Usually the red light means power but not charging - happens to my qtek 9100 when I let it get too flat and I have to remove and insert the battery while the mains adaptor is attached - others have to 'jump start' the battery by directly connecting to a PSU - I wouldn't do this with yours.
From what you have said it sounds like a short somewhere. Any signs of water damage? Warranty? What Wizard do you have and what country are you in?
Richard
I got the wiza 200 O2 xda mini S from a guy in UK from ebay. The idiot sold me a cradle for it with an adaptor that says 12V on it (Like an idiot that I am i just noticed that) but then again how am I supposed to think that he gave me an adaptor that its not made for it when it says on the back of it "for Imate - Kjam". Do you guys think thats what burned the **** out of the unit ?
dont forget that some times turns on shows the ROMS numbers and turns off.
No water damage... I think its on warranty... I live in Greece.
Might not be the cradle - it could be it steps down internally to 5v. Use a meter and check what it outputs to the phone. Warranty with XDA's are 2 years to the *original* purchaser. As they are only supplied with an airtime agreement then that isn't you.
Richard
have you tried changing batteries to a new one? Seriously, thats the easiest thing you could do right now and you could actually get results.
Ok this is what I did.
Removed the baterry from the device,
got a 12V 1 Amp power supply that I had lying around and give it a few shots connecting it to the battery giving it an electro shock.
(If you're going to try this be very carefull.<<<< DONT LEAVE the power supply connected to the battery>>>> just give it a few shots 1 second on and off.
That was it.
It started working, device turned on and now its charging (I think) yellow light is on.
I'm going to leave it on for a few hours and see what happens.
Wish me good luck. I'll let you know soon.
ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.
SmartMan said:
ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.
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Hey man, sorry to hear about that.
The best you can do is to claim your money from ebay.
You probably killed it when you pluged in the 12V PSU. That's 230% of the normal Volts! Otherwise sell it for parts.
I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.
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I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.
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Doubt it. Did you ask the seller for help before opening the phone and voiding the original warranty on the device?
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ok... this is what happend.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
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Not a good idea IMO as now the blame is on you as previously he may have been able to get warranty service from the original vendor.
Richard
I did ask.
He is not the original buyer.
what was I suposed to do.... track back 2-3 buyers to find the original... send it to him so he can have it repaired? Anyway it was out of warranty because of the burned fuse that says that some other charger was used with it.
I had a similar thing happen but fortunately not as bad as yours. Twice now my battery has mysteriously drained completely. The last time when I tried to turn the unit on, it flashed the boot screen for a couple of seconds then poof, no more juice. When I plugged it into the USB port, nothing, no lights, no charge, no recognition from Activesync, I thought the unit was fried. I use Tmobile and got to admit they did send me a replacement fairly quickly. Before I packed up my unit I thought maybe I should plug it in using the wall charger and presto, it came on and is working fine. I have no idea what causes this but do know that if the battery is completely discharged the USB port can not over come this to put a charge on.
Same thing happened to me, kind of strange though. The charge was perhaps 70% to the best of my knowledge. I flashed it with Mr. Clean ROM and booted it up.. it came in fine into WM5, then it started the installation of the 3 progs or whatever comes with Mr. Clean.. after the second finished the unit just died *poff*. Screen blank, no responce to power buttons or any other buttons for that matter.
I've tried taking out the battery for different intervals of time, no luck. I've tried using the AC charger, no luck. No lights, sounds, telepathy or matrix ****.. it just lies there like a dummy phone.. hmm what to do. Bought it from a guy in UK (im in sweden) on eBay, don't think I will have much luck there.. even though it's brand new...
Any thouhgts?
I have had this problem - I bought a replacement battery and all is now fine. Another thread in this group states that the battery cannot charge without the OS up - so if the battery is completely discharged then it is impossible to charge through the phone. The only solution seems to be somehow to charge the battery directly - as appears to have been done earlier in this thread.
Chris
p.s. if anyone knows of another way to do it I'd be interested to hear as I'd like to revive my old battery and keep it as a spare
Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Problem indeed.... Firstly, I wish I could offer some constructive solutions, but afraid not.... it does sound like a worn battery, and maybe worth trying (or borrowing) another one to flash?
I take it as you refer to it as an 'Exec' that it is the O2 branded one? If it is, from my experience with the O2 technical support, they really don't have a clue. I would assume that they would send an exec straight to HTC for testing. It's a complete last resort, but if you were to tell them that your unit was dead and they were to take it in, they wouldn't be able to solve the problem before they sent it back to HTC. This is of course after you have clarified it's not just a dead battery cell.
Best of luck with the thread and hoping someone a bit more experienced can help.
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery remo....
good luck
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
kecido said:
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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thanks for all the help
1 it will not turn or power ,no led no screen
2 battery dose get hot when charging
3 screen has not been dimmed
its back at o2 shop now we will see if they repair it and ill report back !!!!!!!!!
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
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hi thanks for the reply i have had the same on a m600 ,would not charge from usb or car kit but did start with mains charger
i have tryed hard reset but it will not do that either
battery is stuck at 3.7v even after trying to discharge it with a small bulb
thanks
John...
This is something I've had happen in the past.
Try taking the battery out, and put it into a ziplock back, and place it in the freezer for a few hours. I know, I know, it sounds ridiculous. But sometimes, just sometimes, it will reactivate the cells, and you'll be able to charge it after that.
well done o2 uk
well as said before took my phone back to the O2 shop and sent it off to the service centre. The report came back that the main board US .not only did i get a new exec but But a new boxed one and a full set of all original parts !!
i had this problem when i first got my SPV m5000..i took it to the orange shop...(the people where nice) they kept it for few testing and said...
battary was faulty...so they gave me a new battery XD
Hi. Hope someone can help. Was using my phone and all was fine, i found some fluff stuck in the usb/charging port so cleaned it out with a pin, since then i have had a usb symbol on the top of the screen, then when i put it on charge i get a red led come on at the top whereas i used to get an orange one. I assume that the phone isnt turning on now as the battery is dead but does anyone have any other ideas, could i have bent something when i cleaned out the usb port. Thanks . any help woukd be appreaciated
Anyone? I miss my phone and am stuck with a sony w800
All fixed. Used a pin to starighten the pins on the usb and done the battery in and out lots of times while on charge trick to get rid of rlod. Thansk Mike
I have HD2, had an android installed, everything was working perfectly until I've bought a cheap chinese recharger, at first android started to lag, tried to restart the phone and it cound't get past HTC logo after MALGR screen, I couldn't even get into multicolor screen to do a hard reset, simply VOL DOWN and POWER buttons didn't do nothing(in MALGR vol DOWN AND UP were working perfectly) and now it doesn't even boot at all...have no sign of life.
Does it mean my phone is bricked or maybe there is a chance it's a battery.
I'd start all over, HardSPL, rooting, reflashing, EVERYTHING (Maybe Task29? Never tried it before but its supposed to help) - I'm not a dev myself, but thats the first thing i would try to do - sorry I cant tell you what exactly is going wrong - maybe start by charging via USB afterwards
Could be a duff charger. Do you have a usb lead? You could try charging of the PC to see if you can get some line in it!
is the charger just a mains battery charger or usb ?,
only ask as i had to get just a battery charger from ebay as my usb on my phone has broke so i couldnt charge it via usb lead, so i bought 2 mains battery chargers and 2 extra batterys ,
it sounds like its just a dead battery, buy a new one from ebay as they are cheap enough, and hopefully that should work .
First thanxx for responding, guys!
I was "bending" and "torturing" the phone and the battery for a whole day and a half night, and realized that all I have is a bad luck - literally.
But at least it's not bricked, but it's pretty normal, because I did nothing to trigger that.
It's definitely a battery that was completely dead, so I just cut some old charger and charged it with my fingers holding wires against that little metal rectangles..
but that wasn't the end of my troubles..
now the pc just doesn't recognize the phone most of the times in the HSPL bootloader(sometimes it does, but still it won't flash or do anything), I have this active sync installed..
later I'll try at my friends place..
It's almost two years I have my HD2, so probably its life sources are just finished, but I won't give up until I'll try everything..
I'll let you know the results
Finally after a lot of efforts it's reanimated!
Gotta drink some bourbon for that! Cheers everyone!
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Finally after a lot of efforts it's reanimated!
Gotta drink some bourbon for that! Cheers everyone!
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Hey folks, i have a HD2 which isn't turning on. I received a call and it just switched off. Now there is no activity in it at all. No led when connected to a charger. I had MIUI installed on the phone.
The repair people say that the motherboard needs to be replaced which would cost approx 12000INR.
Any way i could revive it back?
Please suggest. Thank you!
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Hey folks, i have a HD2 which isn't turning on. I received a call and it just switched off. Now there is no activity in it at all. No led when connected to a charger. I had MIUI installed on the phone.
The repair people say that the motherboard needs to be replaced which would cost approx 12000INR.
Any way i could revive it back?
Please suggest. Thank you!
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You can try the the freezer trick, put the device in a zip lock bag and put it in the freezer for a few minutes and then see if you can turn it on or charge it. You can also take a old USB cable and cut the mico USB end off and strip the wires back then touch the read to the + on the battery and the black to the - on the battery for a minute or two and then try to boot the device. I sorta souds like you were using MAGLDR and the battery died. You can not charge the device while it is off with MAGLDR. So I would try charging the battery first.
Thank you for replying. You're right i was using Magdlr. I'll try what you said
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I've got the exact sam prob, the HD2 was using MAGLDR, and now it won't start (except for a few times it did), but I honestly can't figure how - since once it had been charged on an external batery charger, and then it turned on and worked for a while, but now it won't work with a charged battery...because I tried using it with another HD2 phone's battery which also has MAGLDR and which works (even with my phone's battery).
The pins have been changed, and it worked then also for a while I've been said, but it's not working again now.
Any help please?
TIA
P.S. I've tried ziplock...15min...nothing :/ How to try the USB? Which wires should I connect to which pins please?
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You can try the the freezer trick, put the device in a zip lock bag and put it in the freezer for a few minutes and then see if you can turn it on or charge it. You can also take a old USB cable and cut the mico USB end off and strip the wires back then touch the read to the + on the battery and the black to the - on the battery for a minute or two and then try to boot the device. I sorta souds like you were using MAGLDR and the battery died. You can not charge the device while it is off with MAGLDR. So I would try charging the battery first.
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something like this
https://www.google.com.hk/search?um....0.0.258.258.2-1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.lFN-ufsMSJw
but be very carefull, if you have an external batt. charger that would be best
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Which wires should I connect to which pins please?
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clue in post 2
T-Macgnolia said:
You can also take a old USB cable and cut the mico USB end off and strip the wires back then touch the read to the + on the battery and the black to the - on the battery for a minute or two
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or mini usb, or even an old usb printer cable, with the chunky end, , it doesn't matter which type.
Thanks samsamuel,
Seen the +/- signs on the back of the battery late, after having meassured the voltage, which is 4.14V (should I do the USB charge then even and how long is it safe since my battery powers up another HD2)?
TIA
if teh battery works in another device, then no, theres no point, its not that.
4.14 is fine, i think it goes up to about 4.2/4.3 when full, drops to the low 3.x when drained.
If the freezer trick didn't help either, then its gotta be either hardware, or something totally catastrophic, so if its an option for you, id try JTAG, failing that, id be considering using it for parts, , buying one with a cracked screen perhaps, and swapping your screen into it, ,
dont take my word for it, though, read learn and try things, you never know.