Hello, is there a way to get or enable uma on nexus one ?
can anyone help, thanks
As far as I know, nobody has implemented UMA on Android. In order to do so would probably require support for the UMA protocol in the Android framework instead of an add-on application.
That being said, there's probably nothing hardware-wise stopping anyone from doing this.
As of now, no. UMA is usually installed by the carrier and this is an "unlocked" phone.I get AWFUL service in my house and would KILL to have this available, but to no avail....
There are some VOIP apps, but most are difficult to set up and problematic. I used truphone which was simple, but the delay from their voice to mine was always 7 seconds+ and they though I wasn't on the line anymore. This is over an average 1.4mbps wireless N/G/B Router.
So Skype has signed a deal with Verizon, and Nokia, here is hoping that Google voice goes true VOIP and pairs with T-mobile.
As for the meantime, anyone have any results with any amps or repeaters?
gururise said:
As far as I know, nobody has implemented UMA on Android. In order to do so would probably require support for the UMA protocol in the Android framework instead of an add-on application.
That being said, there's probably nothing hardware-wise stopping anyone from doing this.
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great! cdma nexus one here i come
stilv said:
great! cdma nexus one here i come
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What does CDMA have to do with anything?
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Does anyone know what the situation is with users trying to use VoIP with a Wing please? I am awaiting the new aSerg ROM (for some unknown reason he took VoIP out of his ROMs relatively early on) or the TTran one but in the meantime I am using the curious hard SPL unlocker ROM
I installed Schaps VoIP software which I got for my Wizard and when I tried to run it, the app crashed. So I ran WM6VoIP which I also got for my Wizard (etc) and everything installed smoothly and runs smoothly and all the data enters properly
However on the TODAY screen; all I can get is SERVICE BLOCKED.
Is this the use of the wrong software or is it an attempt by t-Mob to prevent users using anything other than their own service (lots of people on these boards seem to have asked about using their VoIP service!) and if so, is anyone working on a fix for this please? Or do I just assume that the new ROMs will address this issue?
Also, does anyone know if the earpiece on the Wing takes the VoIP signal or if it comes through the speakers or only through the hands free headset as on other HTC devices such as the Wizard?
wouldn't edge be too slow for voip?
i think this (and network congestion and possible violation of TOS) is the reason that voip was taken out of alot of roms. For alot of carriers, the term "unlimited" really means "5gb or so depending on how we feel".
fzzyrn said:
wouldn't edge be too slow for voip?
i think this (and network congestion and possible violation of TOS) is the reason that voip was taken out of alot of roms. For alot of carriers, the term "unlimited" really means "5gb or so depending on how we feel".
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really?! is that just for the tzones hack or also the total internet add on as well? (the limit your talking about)
So do you guys think t-mob blocks VoIP
And do people go along with this blocking accordingly? Doesnt sound like XDA to me?
If it works on the Wizard and Blue Angel, why should it work so badly on a Wing? Is it an inferior unit to those?
i just tested skype, through fring, on my wing. works fine.
http://www.fring.com/
its not reliable through edge, but with wifi it works well.
Then I wonder what is blocking my service?
Kazzx said:
i just tested skype, through fring, on my wing. works fine.
http://www.fring.com/
its not reliable through edge, but with wifi it works well.
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Then I wonder what is blocking my service? I dont use Edge and as i say I have used these files successfully on Wizards, Hermeses and BlueAngels before and got VoIP service. (Even without overclocking)
In effect it was ME blocking my service
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Then I wonder what is blocking my service?
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What is blocking my service is not paying enough attention to the settings: I failed to enable Internet Calling 'Whenever Available'.
Snot working yet but as soon as I enabled it, VoIP suddenly became "available"
I've been trying to search for a solution to this, and haven't found anything yet on this topic. I keep seeing SIP and programs that require you to connect to a VoIP server, but I am not sure if this will accomplish the same goal. Basically I like how the Blackberry UMA technology connects via WiFi from overseas, and lets you make calls back to the US using your regular plan minutes with no long distance charges. Is there any way to do the same thing on the HD2 (US version)? I know the antenna's are not the same technology.
There is also an option for internet calling when you go to Settings Tab>Menu>All Settings>Personal>Phone>Internet. It reads:
Internet Calling
To set the calling network for your next call, select Internet Calling on the Home Screen.
Does this even do anything?
I too would be very interested in something like this as my reception at my home - inside or out - is very weak.
I have tried several different radios as well, but I'm not having any luck.
Ditto.. I could totally use this feature. Does anyone know if you must have hardware that supports it or is it just software that runs on the phone ?
As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.
I have truphone, witch works great, but only for outgoing calls. I need something that works through wifi that I can get incoming calls as well as outgoing. This is the one and only thing that makes me miss my blackberry. If I wasn't merely 9 months into my 2 year contract I could afford the mytouch 4g or the G2 and enjoy uma, but I don't have 500 plus dollars for yet another new phone. Trust me I'd love a new Mytouch 4G but it's at least another year until I can get one. I know this is off topic but does anyone have any hands on knowledge about the signal boosters they sell online? what ones work? cuz I get like 1 bar in my house and it comes and goes but soon as i'm 3 doors up I have 5 bars and 3g. So I definitely need something.
I was searching for just the same thing and came across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380803
post 23 explains it, so now all thats needed is adaptation, but I'm not a programer.
Here are the files I did download, but I haven't tested them, nor would know how to "make" them work.
Hope someone can make this work, I get 0 service at home, cause I live in a rural area, but work in a metro.
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As far as I know both the hardware and software must support UMA in order for it to work. For instance, I could use UMA calling on my Shadow 2009, but could'nt on my Shadow 2007, even though they ran the same build of WinMo. From what I understand UMA has to be built into the WiFi chip in order for it to work.
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But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.
Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.
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But how does that explain the Wi-fi calling feature that is added through custom rom flashes for the Samsung Vibrant and the Nexus One? Both those devices never had UMA from the beginning but was added through custom flashes later on.
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Yeah, Damenloader is right. How come there's a rom that gives the Vibrant and the Nexus UMA wifi calling ? Anybody ? I'd REALLY like to get UMA on my HD2.
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Are you guys sure you're not confusing Wi-Fi calling for UMA? These are two different technologies. Wi-Fi calling is simply using a messenger program or SIP server to make calls using Wi-Fi. It's free to other Wi-Fi users or charged to account credits for phone numbers (Fringo, Skype, Nimbuzz, Google Voice). SIP servers work the same way (SIP Gate, etc.), you have to have an account with credit to make Wi-Fi calls to phone numbers.
Both of these Wi-Fi calling options require you to purchase calling credit to make calls to telephone numbers.
The idea behind UMA is that you do not have to purchase credit through a third party, but instead you use the minutes on your T-Mobile plan. For example, if you make a Wi-Fi call with a Blackberry (UMA-enabled phone), you would be connected through T-Mobile's servers (not 3rd party, ie: Skype), and they would simply deduct the minutes from your monthly plan. It would work the same with UMA as it would with a regular phone call through wireless service, free t-motbile to t-mobile, nights and weekends, etc.
I have searched this information thoroughly and have only come to conclude that UMA capability has to be built into the phone, via a chip or other. So far I have not seen anything about UMA being accessible through a program install or software mod.
If you simply want Wi-Fi calling it is possible with the HD2, as I have already done it with Skype and SIP Gate. It will be free if the person you are calling also has Skype, Nimbuzz, Fringo, etc. If you don't mind paying 2-10 cents/minute, then you can purchase the credit and make Wi-Fi calls to telephone numbers as well.
Hope this answers your question.
cu2cool, I believe you may have it a little wrong on the part of UMA. Like in the link I posted before, UMA isn't hardware or chip dependent, though phones like Blackberrys have a dedicated chip for the purpose. UMA is software dependent, and most likely radio dependent. My proof is in this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116 taken from a Nexus1 thread, which phone didn't have UMA support before some crafty guys worked it out. Don't get me wrong I'm no expert on the subject, just from reading around, I'm fairly certain its "possible" and all it should take is a crafty person with the know-how to make it work.
Edit: Just found this (actually had it opened for weeks and forgot I had it) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843433&page=6 a dev page for WIP on UMA-HD2_TMo-Android.
I finally just forked over the cash for a Mytouch 4G, and it was money well spent even if just for the wifi calling alone.
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I think I just saw something that might help. It came out on the 11th of February. http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/windows-mobile-voip-sip-updated/
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/motorola-charm-to-include-uma/
This story is of particular interest to me as I think UMA is a kickass feature. Does anybody know anything about how this is going to work on the charm? Does anyone have a system dump of the charm rom yet? I'd love to poke around and see what's in there.
If I could get UMA working on my nexus I'd never need another phone. I can't even count how many times my wife has been able to use her blackberry via wifi to make calls and then makes fun of my 'superphone'. ...sigh...
It's called Google Voice.
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It's called Google Voice.
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Not really; it's not a replacement for UMA. You can't be in a dead zone and be making/receiving calls and texts over WiFi only.
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Not really; it's not a replacement for UMA. You can't be in a dead zone and be making/receiving calls and texts over WiFi only.
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I do that with Google Voice and Sipdroid currently
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I do that with Google Voice and Sipdroid currently
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I guess you can hack a solution if you give everyone your Google Voice number (or forward all calls to it), and have it forwarded to a DID or other number, having that number expose SIP credentials (or use in conjunction with Gizmo/PBXes/Sip Sorcery), and finally use Sipdroid to register and receive calls and dial out. Whew.
Not that I haven't done it before , but that is hardly what UMA can do for you; a seamless connection to the provider without the need of any of that mumbo jumbo (not to mention reliance on everything in your VoIP chain working smoothly all the time)
just out of curiosity though; do you have your setup such that all of your calls/texts are sent/received through the same number so that it's all transparent to everyone else?
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I guess you can hack a solution if you give everyone your Google Voice number (or forward all calls to it), and have it forwarded to a DID or other number, having that number expose SIP credentials (or use in conjunction with Gizmo/PBXes/Sip Sorcery), and finally use Sipdroid to register and receive calls and dial out. Whew.
Not that I haven't done it before , but that is hardly what UMA can do for you; a seamless connection to the provider without the need of any of that mumbo jumbo (not to mention reliance on everything in your VoIP chain working smoothly all the time)
just out of curiosity though; do you have your setup such that all of your calls/texts are sent/received through the same number so that it's all transparent to everyone else?
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I would have to admit, it was a bit of pain(time) to setup. It does fine as an UMA replacement until T-Mobile decide that their coverage is not perfect enough yet and work with google to implement.
As for my setup. Well once I go underground, anyone with my regular mobile number can call and reach me as if I was on T-Mobile same way. As for texts, nope, not yet at least, they would have to text my google number. The only bad side about this setup is that sipdroid does not keep the call going over wifi with the screen off. So your phone gets rather hot after 30mins. Go figure.
Also thanks to this setup, I also take calls on my laptop with both linux and Windows..
One last thing to note since the Charm has UMALite. A user commented on that TmoNews link and said this:
Only calls can be made via UMA. Text/VM notification/MMS will not go work. So like on a TMO Blackberry, UMA gives you full functionality via UMA. UMALite does not. Oh and one more thing,if you originate a call via UMALite, it will not hand it over to gsm or vice versa.
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+ 1 on this.i have heard the vibrant has this feature but i cannot verify.i have sent the developer of the vibrant for cm several messages regarding this issue and cannot get a response.ive even offered a reward to someone that can successfully port it to my nexus.i had a bberry with this feature and its awesome when you are in a building most of the day and have no signal.all of these other features mentioned in this thread,while excellent in their own way,are no comparison to UMA.
InGeNeTiCs said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/motorola-charm-to-include-uma/
This story is of particular interest to me as I think UMA is a kickass feature. Does anybody know anything about how this is going to work on the charm? Does anyone have a system dump of the charm rom yet? I'd love to poke around and see what's in there.
If I could get UMA working on my nexus I'd never need another phone. I can't even count how many times my wife has been able to use her blackberry via wifi to make calls and then makes fun of my 'superphone'. ...sigh...
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Hi all, just wanted to know if any of the android builds or winmo roms allow WiFi calling, because I get no service in my house in nyc..Ty all
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BUMP. Cannot get any service within my college dorm either (yet outside, there are 5 bars and no network connectivity issues). I've been reading up on T-mobile wireless frequencies and their inability to effectively penetrate walls and other surfaces.
Here is the forum post from the Nexus boards (unfortunately a bit above my technological knowledge).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116
Apparently to get wifi calling working, kernel-deep implementation must be applied before the app is even installed.
Google voice, although I believe you have to use a different number. On the plus side you can use gvoice over 3g as well
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dung8604 said:
Google voice, although I believe you have to use a different number. On the plus side you can use gvoice over 3g as well
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Calls with GV android still go out over a standard cellular network so therefore this doesn't work in the case where you have no network access. An alternative is to use a SIP service in combination with GV which is terribly unreliable (I can speak from experience of using a variety of SIP services, et.al) and also uses a different telephone number which isn't ideal in my case. Thank you for the suggestion though.
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Calls with GV android still go out over a standard cellular network so therefore this doesn't work in the case where you have no network access. An alternative is to use a SIP service in combination with GV which is terribly unreliable (I can speak from experience of using a variety of SIP services, et.al) and also uses a different telephone number which isn't ideal in my case. Thank you for the suggestion though.
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LOL, are we at the same school? No signal whatsoever when I was in my freshman dorm... Damn the walls were thick!
I had a backberry back then, which supports Wifi calling.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774672
looks like cmyxlgo has it going in this thread (link above). do you know if this still takes minutes from your plan.
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looks like cmyxlgo has it going in this thread (link above). do you know if this still takes minutes from your plan.
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Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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thanks, that is what i was afraid of. they also got rid of "my Faves", which eliminated free calling with google voice. has anyone had any luck with fring ?
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Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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So, if you travel internationaly you're not charged roaming if you use your phone over wifi calling?. You just use your plan minutes as if they were domestic?
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So, if you travel internationaly you're not charged roaming if you use your phone over wifi calling?. You just use your plan minutes as if they were domestic?
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WIFI Calling takes your call from anywhere in the world and routes it back to the states as if you were next to a T-Mobile tower. This doesn't mean that you can call a number that would be classified as roaming at no cost. For example, if you are in a London hotel and connect your phone via wifi to call a local London restaurant for reservations, this would be considered an international phone call. However, if you just call your friends and family with their US based area codes, you would just be using your minutes.
Source:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/t-mobile-androids-getting-wi-fi-calling/
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WIFI Calling takes your call from anywhere in the world and routes it back to the states as if you were next to a T-Mobile tower. This doesn't mean that you can call a number that would be classified as roaming at no cost. For example, if you are in a London hotel and connect your phone via wifi to call a local London restaurant for reservations, this would be considered an international phone call. However, if you just call your friends and family with their US based area codes, you would just be using your minutes.
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http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/t-mobile-androids-getting-wi-fi-calling/
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Understood, thank you. Do you know if the sms work the same way or is only for voice?
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Understood, thank you. Do you know if the sms work the same way or is only for voice?
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Yeah SMS works the same way. I really wish I could get this to work for me as well. But Wifi calling doesn't work on the newest HD2 Android builds.
Has anybody been able to get WIFI calling to work on TMOUS, NAND?
Doesn't seem that the Devs really care about this. It's hard to even find any info. I wish this could be done as Then I could replace my wife's blackberry with UMA with my Spare HD2.
I see one dev who seems to care. Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927671
Notice where it says:
Coming Soon:
Kineto GAN interface(based on CM kernel style to help work on T-Mo US Wifi Calling)
Kineto is the company that created an app that can do wifi calling for certain android phones and the app was (I think) successfully ported to the Nexus One. It doesn't do cell tower to wifi handoffs because that is apparently a chip-based feature and this is purely a software solution.
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I see one dev who seems to care. Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927671
Notice where it says:
Coming Soon:
Kineto GAN interface(based on CM kernel style to help work on T-Mo US Wifi Calling)
Kineto is the company that created an app that can do wifi calling for certain android phones and the app was (I think) successfully ported to the Nexus One. It doesn't do cell tower to wifi handoffs because that is apparently a chip-based feature and this is purely a software solution.
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Yep. One of the smartest user comments all day
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i know people are going to hate me for this thread.... but it is really important to me to be able to text from my phone in places where i have no service but am able to connect to wifi.... so is it at all possible to do UMA or is it actually a hardware limitation???
...please dont hate me lols.
I don't know what the heck UMA is, I Googled it up with "xda" tag ..
Found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904575
Which lead me to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843433&page=6
Which is WiFi Calling,
lols, well uma is actually not the same as wifi calling, like i had it on my crackberry, and it would replace my service completely if i were on wifi, but with the wifi calling thing only lets you place calls and not sms over wifi.... lols, oh well, UMA probably isnt possible anyway.
If you have Google Voice - not the "call phone from gmail" version, the full fledged one with a phone number, you can send text messages over wifi.
It is right now only available in the US, but if you know how to find it, you can activate Google Voice from elsewhere too
UMA is alive and well on the HD2. I have the same situation you do at work with very bad signal but it doesn't matter. Voice and text is flawless.
A word of warning, though - we have 5 HD2's in our family that are configured exactly the same. Of the 5, 3 work without any problem at all with UMA calling and texting and the other two have this strange freezing problem. No idea why they are different because they shouldn't be.
Anyway, the thread with the app is here.
All credit goes to Tytung for his incredible work.
Also, if you're familiar with the original HotSpot @ Home calling, this does not support warm handoffs between cell tower and wifi signal and vice versa.
Hope this is what you were looking for.