password self-change (changes on its own) - HD2 General

1.
This is really weird: some 4 weeks ago it happened that my phone passoword on my first HD2 self-changed , after battery went very low...Initially I though my daughter intercepted my pwd and changed, but this cannot be, since too young (6 y.o.) and she never playd with it...I used a four digit phone password: 1357
A message says: " the password you typed is incorrect" and prompt me to re-enter
I had to hard reset...
2.
some 3-4 days ago, my second HD2 went under the same issue: while battery was low (under 8%) I changed the battery with a fresh one. Then the password -self changed!
I did a hard reset
Details of both my HD2s:
ROM freyberry
lite_WMphone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606932
(which is really fast and good, by the way)
3.
HD Blackstone
Now few minutes ago, after I installed swype keyboard cab, my third phone (a HD phone, NOT HD2) auto-changed its password!
Same problem
Questions:
1. Am I running crazy or is this a known issue?
2. Is there a Virus which is known to cause such an effect, on WM phones?
Currently I do not use any AV on my Phones. I use kaspersky 9.x on my laptop
Thanks a lot and waiting
Saulo

one more detail: now my HD is NOT accessible anymore...so I am trying to type different pwds: the result is that sometimes the phone is silent (the message "the password you typed is incorrect" does not appear).
Some other times a new message asks to input this sequence: a1b2c3, before I am enabled to re-enter my lost pwd...
Please help...
Saulo

For the first 2 I don't know, did you properly turn the phone off before removing battery, or did you just take it out without a ful shutdown?
About the 3rd one, which Swype version have you used? see this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639901&highlight=swype

well, in the case of HD (NOT HD2), the issue just happened few minutes ago: battery was 40%. I simply installed swype 3.9. Then the software asked for restart.
I did it (Software restart)
Then the password changed on its own...I am really scared of this phenomena, which I never had during last 8 years of using Windows Mobile phones...all this nightmare started 4 weeks ago.
Thanks and waiting for your feedback
Saulo

saulo866 said:
well, in the case of HD (NOT HD2), the issue just happened few minutes ago: battery was 40%. I simply installed swype 3.9. Then the software asked for restart.
I did it (Software restart)
Then the password changed on its own...I am really scared of this phenomena, which I never had during last 8 years of using Windows Mobile phones...all this nightmare started 4 weeks ago.
Thanks and waiting for your feedback
Saulo
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Did you read the link in the above answer from kilrah? Swype 3.9 causes it.

Yes Samuel.
Is there a cure? I am backing up my Phone and I like Swype 3.9 a lot...
Thanks and waiting

saulo866 said:
Yes Samuel.
Is there a cure? I am backing up my Phone and I like Swype 3.9 a lot...
Thanks and waiting
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Sorry, not read about a cure except not using swype. (I use swype, but i've no idea which version it is,, and i dont use a password so cant say if its teh bad one or not,,, it just says swype.cab.)

saulo866 said:
Yes Samuel.
Is there a cure? I am backing up my Phone and I like Swype 3.9 a lot...
Thanks and waiting
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There is a cure: MTTY your phone and flash a ROM that has Swype 3.9 included. No problem.
Quite a few great ROMs do, including both variants of OzROM. I'm using one myself, and Swype 3.9 works flawlessly on it.

Dear Donald
Thas for your advice1
MTTY: I have read and it looks rather complicated...if I flash with a Stock ROM (like 1.48) and then with a cooked ROM which includes SWYPE will it be the same?
besides: Why do I need MTTY, since except this pwd auto-change issue I am experiencing no other flaws?
Thanks and waiting for your suggestions
Saulo

There are many reports of HD2s suddenly "forget" the password in this Forum but the actual cause(s) is still unknown. Some said it's bcoz of Swype, whereas for me it happened after resetting for a registry tweak but pretty sure that it's a bug/problem related to the WinMo phone lock. Now I've switched to S2U2 lock which works fine so far (still with Swype in my HD2).

Dear Byron
1.
Thanks for your insight: can you expand your feedback on S2U2? I would like to hear from you, before switching from default device LOCK 4 digit password (which would be more than enough for me) to this new utility.
2.
In my case HD2 DID NOT forget! If so the device would be unlocked. No, the device CHANGED the device lock code! Terrible. I needed to perfomr a hard reset in order to access my phone again, thus I was luck I had done a backup few days ago. I only lost 3 days of new contacts and SMS/emails.
Thank you and waiting
Saulo

To me this is not new. To provide a slightly different perspective, my previous phone to this was the ETEN M700 phone (under WinMo 6.1). That Windows lock-password change occasionally disappears when I either swap batteries or soft-reset the phone.
No surprises to hear that it might happen in HTC HD2, which is why I'm wary of installing a Windows lock password to it.

I've just had it happen to me.
In my case I am using ozrom with swype cooked in.
Interesting I noticed something extra that hasn't been mentioned.
I powered my phone off properly last night and when I switched it on in the morning the first thing that came up was an activesync prompt asking me to enter my new activesync password.
The password on the domain that I sync with hasn't changed. Upon attempting to enter the domain password, the normal phone lock comes up and simply won't accept any passwords - even after the a1b2c3 prompt.
So to me it looks like its not just loosing the phone password but something in the password store is being completely corrupted and only a hard reset and setting everything up again clears it :/

Gah!
It happened again! I was just tweaking the last few settings and the phone wanted a soft reboot. When it came back it wouldn't accept my pin
This time swype was not enabled. Installed, yes. Enabled, no!
I had an O2 XDA (Orbit II I think) before this and never had a single problem with the lock. Then again I never flashed it with a cooked rom...

I resolved by disabling the windows default lock and using S2U2...very good applications, but not really a full locking application.
Thank you
Saulo

I'm using S2U2 at the moment. It hasn't solved the phone losing its passwords (it lost the ActiveSync password when I turned it on this morning).
It does mean that I don't have to hard reset it when it does loose the password though.
I have also noticed that S2U2 doesn't stop the phone from being accidentally turned off by the power button being held down whilst its in my pocket though.

beddo said:
So to me it looks like its not just loosing the phone password but something in the password store is being completely corrupted and only a hard reset and setting everything up again clears it :/
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Has anyone had problems with swype 3.9 if the phone is not locked with a PIN?
I have seen reports with passwords for email accounts being lost, and the pin for locking the phone being changed. But I have not seen anyone having problems if they did not lock the phone...

christos299 said:
I have seen reports with passwords for email accounts being lost, and the pin for locking the phone being changed. But I have not seen anyone having problems if they did not lock the phone...
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It is important to point out that in my case swype was cooked into the rom and installed, but not enabled. I have not actually used swype.
What I have now done is used mtty before reflashing the phone and the phone has now been stable since I did it on Saturday..fingers crossed as I had done everything else before including a hard reset after flashing the phone.

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i do not have swype nor did i ever have it installed. I have only tweaked my phone through the registry and never had a problem. MY phone has run down passed critical multiple times and never had a problem until i did a battery pull today without shutting down the phone. It has been downhill from there
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Has anyone solved this problem yet?
If not, if i reset my phone what will i lose?
Also this seems pretty scary; so how can i lock someone out the phone without locking myself out? I dont want a silly slidelock that doesnt secure my device from unauthorized personnel.
Thanks in advance

the password reset is the same for he TP2/Tilt2's. i had to bootload and reflash to fix the problem

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problem with manila2d.exe.. pls help! >_<

hi.. new user here..
just this morning when i woke up, my Touchflo isn't working anymore. an error message showed up saying that there is a problem with Manila2D.exe
i tried soft-resetting my device but it still doesn't fix the problem. the touchflo is enabled in the today settings.
any thoughts on what to do about this?
btw, i have a htc touch 3G, touchflo version 3.0 build 31508
thanks for the help! >_<
jbrian09 said:
hi.. new user here..
just this morning when i woke up, my Touchflo isn't working anymore. an error message showed up saying that there is a problem with Manila2D.exe
i tried soft-resetting my device but it still doesn't fix the problem. the touchflo is enabled in the today settings.
any thoughts on what to do about this?
btw, i have a htc touch 3G, touchflo version 3.0 build 31508
thanks for the help! >_<
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A Hard Reset will probably fix it, but you will lose everything on your phone, so backup your programs / Personal data first.
Ta
Dave
just a thought, did you try to first disable touchflo (so you get standard windows mobile start screen) , soft reset and then enable touchflo again?
jbrian09 said:
hi.. new user here..
just this morning when i woke up, my Touchflo isn't working anymore. an error message showed up saying that there is a problem with Manila2D.exe
i tried soft-resetting my device but it still doesn't fix the problem. the touchflo is enabled in the today settings.
any thoughts on what to do about this?
btw, i have a htc touch 3G, touchflo version 3.0 build 31508
thanks for the help! >_<
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hi jbrian09,
did you try the hard reset? did it work?
i'm also encountering the same problem with my htc touch 3G phone
same problem here
hi guys,
i have the same problem here. i've tried to deselect Touchflo from today and soft reset and only then re-enable Touchflo, sadly it still doesn't work.
even more frustrating is the fact that this has happened at least 3 times before on 3 separate occasions. everytime it happened it had to backup all my data (Thank God for Pimbackup) and hard reset. This is seriously frustrating, it sucks that HTC would put out a phone that works this badly.
What's worse is that after the first time this happened, I was unable to re-install Mapking because it only works on a freshly formatted SD card.
So i guess in the end all we can do is hard reset the phone everytime this happens. it just happened to me again today and as much as i LOVE the Touchflo interface, I'm giving it the boot.
Probably gonna use something like SPB Mobile shell instead, until I can afford to get rid of this phone and get a blackberry.
This whole experience has really ruined my confidence in HTC phones.
rakuen said:
hi guys,
i have the same problem here. i've tried to deselect Touchflo from today and soft reset and only then re-enable Touchflo, sadly it still doesn't work.
even more frustrating is the fact that this has happened at least 3 times before on 3 separate occasions. everytime it happened it had to backup all my data (Thank God for Pimbackup) and hard reset. This is seriously frustrating, it sucks that HTC would put out a phone that works this badly.
What's worse is that after the first time this happened, I was unable to re-install Mapking because it only works on a freshly formatted SD card.
So i guess in the end all we can do is hard reset the phone everytime this happens. it just happened to me again today and as much as i LOVE the Touchflo interface, I'm giving it the boot.
Probably gonna use something like SPB Mobile shell instead, until I can afford to get rid of this phone and get a blackberry.
This whole experience has really ruined my confidence in HTC phones.
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Why don't you try to reinstall M2D, the xda version.
I've used Jade for a year now, never once it failed me. Installing and reinstalling several apps many many times, heavily customised my M2D.... no problem.
Reinstalling Mapking should not requires a freshly formatted SD card. I've reinstalled it, when I accidently deleted it... no problem.
I have problem like this, when i got the phone it was with HTC Touch Flo, when i put my card in it and start the phone Touch Flo disappeared, and now its not even in today-items. Please help me or give me a link to working Manila 2D for my Touch 3g, thanx in advance

HD2 Keeps losing settings

About once every three times I soft reset my phone it wipes all the settings, mail account, wifi keys, facebook login, my-phone sync login, data connection settings the bloody lot. Have the HTC wwe 1.66 stock rom installed with CHT. Anybody else have this problem? Any ideas on how to stop it from happening again?
Do I need a special handshake or something to get a reply on here?
lol, not as far as I know...
I'm on 1.66 WWE with CHT installed and I've never lost any settings on soft reset.
I had this problem with my stock 1.66 ROM and also had CHT installed too.
I first thought it might be CHT 1.7.0, but uninstalling it still didnt fix the fact that the login details for Live Messenger/My Phone/Marketplace/Facebook weren't being saved properly (ie: kept prompting me each time).
I've hard reset to fix the login details issue and so far it's ok. I'm running a minimum amount of apps to see what might have caused it (no AEB Plus, no BsB Tweaks, no CHT; FB/Marketplace/My Phone/Google Maps/Opera 10/SPB Wireless installed)
Mmmm, might bite the bullet and flash the tmob 1.72 rom. It's a pain in the arse though got atleast 50 apps installed and it's not running to bad but when it needs resetting I have to put all the settings in again. Acutally it's just occured to me that just before the last settings loss, I had the non stopping vibration problem that's been happening on and off every month or so (the settings probably got wiped the last time this happened too)
I was going to open a thread like this myself, but luckily I found one already opened.
I am on a 2.10 tmous based rom, and I have the habit to switch out a battery when it's empty to put in a new charged one, so I just open the cover while the phone is on (either in standby or not) remove the battery and put in the other one, having the same effect of a soft reset after all.
I never associated this beahviour with the sudden resets... anyway I keep losing email account and wifi info as well! I do not use facebook (lucky me) nor myphone or other services, but for sure my mail accounts get wiped every once in a while, and when trying to connect to home network I get a "new network" message. I am definitly tired of adding them manually each time, nor I am confortable creating a provisioning XML with clear passwords inside
That's a real pain.
Slightly different problem happened yesterday, only lost my home router's pass key this time - everything else stayed put. Am getting past the irritation of finding the pass keys and typing them in by saving them in a hidden file on my phone, when one goes I just copy and paste it in - back up running in seconds.
Similar in my case. I have cooked ROM Hypnosis V 4.0 with latest hotfixes and tweaks and after SR phone lost some settings like light, notifications and other, which i change in registry...
Have you flashed that 1.72 rom yet? Its much better than the useless ****e they shipped our phones with. I havent had to hard reset once since I flashed
Before it was a weekly occurence lol
Seriously though, I never had that on the old rom or this one.
I think you'll find it worthwhile updating (if you havent already).
1.72 is not WWE, so i don't.

You mean to tell me i cant lock my phone?

Im using a HD2. Soooo.... I woke up this morning to a dead battery. No problem since i didnt charge my phone b4 i went to sleep. So i turn my phone on an plug it into the charger. I wait for everything to load and then i put my 4digit password in and what happens? "Password Incorrect".... So i enter it several more times until It goes to the "a1b2c3" screen. I returned my last hd2 because of this same problem. So the 2 questions im asking are Can i lock my phone without this happening again and have anyone else experienced the same thing?
mr.biwo said:
Im using a HD2. Soooo.... I woke up this morning to a dead battery. No problem since i didnt charge my phone b4 i went to sleep. So i turn my phone on an plug it into the charger. I wait for everything to load and then i put my 4digit password in and what happens? "Password Incorrect".... So i enter it several more times until It goes to the "a1b2c3" screen. I returned my last hd2 because of this same problem. So the 2 questions im asking are Can i lock my phone without this happening again and have anyone else experienced the same thing?
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Just curious are you using the Swype Keyboard, or did you install a diff version of Swype ... Have seen other posts about people not being able to Unlock their phone and it was Swype related ...
Just thought I would mention it ....
yeaa it happens sometimes as it happened with me too...just dont use it as there are several other options which are much much more reliable, two that i have used myself with no problems are "s2u2" and "throttlelock"...i suggest you use either of these locks instead of the stock lock. Sadly you will have to format your phone using the hardware buttons but i forgot how to do it...sorry...
This happened to me also. Only way around it was to hard reset the device. I didn't have Swype or any other SIP installed.
switch to other phone lock
I think it's a known issue with the stock WinMo phone lock, which tends to "forget" your password randomly. I experienced it twice. Disable it and use other phone lock apps like S2U2 as suggested by rickssj4 above. It never happened again.

Phone Lock Code CHANGES after Soft reset?

This is confusing!
I just carried out a soft reset on my device, carried out the same way I always soft reset my device. But after tapping in my lock code, keep getting message stating the code is incorrect.
This has baffled me, as I haven't even installed any new Apps, or carried out any new tweaks. It's as if the PHONE has changed the lock code after doing A SOFT RESET!
This happened to anyone else?
usually associated with installing swype 3.9 on a non tmous phone, although i also half remember similar behavour with exchange (not sure of this bit though)
oh, did you change the lockscreen in cookies? it gives a warning about not using passwords when messing with cookies lockscreen settings.
I haven't even installed any new Apps, or carried out any new tweaks.
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i mentioned this above...
I may be wrong, but I clearly remember that soon after the discussion in here became lively since more people started to own the device, this problem has been reported several times even on pristine phones, where the phone would not simply change the code, but forget it altogether :-/
That's why I've never enabled it even if it would be a useful feature.
ephestione said:
I may be wrong, but I clearly remember that soon after the discussion in here became lively since more people started to own the device, this problem has been reported several times even on pristine phones, where the phone would not simply change the code, but forget it altogether :-/
That's why I've never enabled it even if it would be a useful feature.
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I never forget my code, as I use the same code as I always have done. So im still baffled about this
this happened to me on my omnia like two years ago. just a little soft reset and i had to hard reset to be able to use my phone again. i had to get all my contacts and data back manually and this was the time i figured why are there so many backup programs for winmo.... didn't know anything about this OS before..
now i just use sim PIN, never had trouble..
Luckily I got SPB backup installed, and have it set to do automatic backup every monday morning @ 3am, but still wondering why the phone lock code.changed simply by doing a soft reset :-/
xtreme__boi said:
Luckily I got SPB backup installed, and have it set to do automatic backup every monday morning @ 3am, but still wondering why the phone lock code.changed simply by doing a soft reset :-/
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I've had this happen a couple of times. The best I can come up with is something must write to the code's area whilst the phone is on. Like a buffer overflow... I had it happen on the stock ROM, and also on a custom ROM, but it hasn't happened recently... (I'm now on a recent 23xxx Energy ROM).

HD2 keeps forgetting my password, requires hard reset...read

No, this is not a one time thing, and I'm not talking about internet passwords.
My HD2 is literally forgetting my unlock code.
Background: This happens roughly once a month. There's been no consistencies with the problem (different ROMs, even). What happens is, I will turn on my device (or soft reset), and when the lock screen appears, it will repeatedly tell me my password is incorrect. After a while, it will stop telling me my password is incorrect, and simply do nothing when I click the unlock button.
Soft-reset, pulling the battery, removing the SIM, etc, does not help. Every boot after the boot it forgets my password gives me the same results.
My password has been the same all three times this has happened, and the only way around it is a hard reset. I'm trying to find a solution to this, as it is very aggravating to keep losing all my data.
If you have any questions, let me know. And thanks for your help!
it used to happen to me too....so stopped using the password thingy. try pocketshield its an excellent alternative.
i remember reading in several similar posts that (some versions of) swype are known to cause this issue. i believe the safest way to install swype, if you are so inclined, is to install it FIRST, and THEN set up your PIN.
still, if you are not using swype, your issue does sound like the weirdest of the bunch!
ASCIIker said:
i remember reading in several similar posts that (some versions of) swype are known to cause this issue. i believe the safest way to install swype, if you are so inclined, is to install it FIRST, and THEN set up your PIN.
still, if you are not using swype, your issue does sound like the weirdest of the bunch!
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Nope, I don't even have Swype installed...
What's weird is, it's not after installing anything. The phone will literally work for days, and then after a soft reset, locks me out.
Checking out Pocketshield, looks like it might be a better solution.
Update
Found this, but I haven't tried it to see if it's the same problem as mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768815
Guess I'll be waiting until my phone breaks again...
u may want to read this as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610419

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