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ameo freeze every day serveral times

Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Hi tvrman.
For starters, install Sprite backup (on one of the CD's you got with the Ameo). This will eradicate the need for a full install after a hard reset in the future!
I suggest you do a full hard reset anyway then install Sprite Backup utility.
Only put back your essential apps one by one with 1/2 a days gap between each installation and test the turn off turn on function.
Be sure to use the supplied X-Button application to ensure you properly clode apps down after you're finished with them....or use Wisbar Advance 2, which will do it for you....except for Active Sync (this will always remain active unless shut down manually in memory menu).
I have not once suffered the problem you have in over a months use of the Ameo....might be a faulty unit or a buggy ROM. What version ROM are you using?
Anyway, if all goes well over the next 3 days, do a full backup and save a copy to your storage card or micro drive and be sure to copy a copy over to your PC...that should future peoof you having to do a full install again in the future. And be sure only to back up, if you have no problems with the device and the problems you mentioned earlier. Otherwise you will allways restore the bugs in the device after a hard reset.
Hope this helps. keep us updated on how you get on.

Mackaby007
thanks for you professional answer, i was not aware that spd backup
was on the cd which was delivered at the ameo.
Well yesterday i found out that one of the programs (profimail)
which i'm using serveral times a day for my mail, that this is the problem
I found out that yesterday i didn't use profimail but the built in mail the
whole day and the ameo did not freeze at all the whole day
tried to turn it off an on the whole day and no problems at all,
yesterday late i start profimail and check serveral mails, i close profimail
and turn the device off, later turn it on and a black screen it would not
turn on
After soft reset everthing works.
So i will check today again without using profimail and see what's happends
again.
i'll let you know....

hi,
I had the same problem.
My solution was to format the mini-sd card.
So what i did:
1. copied all data on de minisd in a cardreader to a directory on pc
2. Formatted (not quick) the minisd
3. Copied all data back to the minisd.

All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Have you got a password to lock your phone try removing that see if it still locks , i was having the same issue

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert
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No such issue here! WA2 runs like a dream on my Ameo...even better than it did on my Hermes or Prophet! I'm using the 2.8.0.2 version of WA2 without WAD.

WA2 + WAD
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?

skin
iPhone skin ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Software/iPhone.rar
I use a lot of apps. I also use the following plugins on WAD:
SPB Diary
Profiles for Windows Mobile
Windows Life Messenger

QAN said:
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?
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I'll give the skin a test run in an hour, but I refuse to use plug-ins again. They have always caused me problems, but WA2 never has. What version were you running?

Tried the i-phone skin and have experienced no issues whatsoever.
Maybe the Problem is WAD and your plug-ins.

WAD keep on giving problems like this...it's a sin for such an interesting application...here it is because I gave up to use it.

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
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I did some searching and found some suggestions it might be the skin I was using. I changed the skin and no more freezing.
Robert

trayap.exe
Since I removed the trayap.exe from the init part of the registry I did not have any freezing anymore. I will try WA2 again to see if this solves my problem.
By the way, I am using the latest beta's of WA2 and WAD

hi all
i find that if i use the off button to turn off the backlight whilst media player is running it jams the machine, requiring a reboot. i know that i can usethe light button on the keyboard but i sometimes forget that media player is running (ie. paused).

I have the same freezing problem now after a few weeks of usage.
The device was running very nicely but now, without installing anything further or adding anything to the device, it freezes randomly.
It likes to freeze when the backlight goes off, while I play MP3 files or have a phone conversation using bluetooth.
In the past 4 days I have softreset the device no less than 81 times.
I suspect the Microdrive is to blame. Is it sensitive to movement?
I will remove all my software and other files from the microdrive and see if things improve.
In the mean time, has anyone else experienced random and frequent freezing?
Oh, I have the Dopod U1000 branded device with the latest firmware.

ok, I had it with this. 16 more soft resets within 4 hours.
I hard reset the device. So far I see no random freezing, but I didn't install anything extra yet except ozVGA and VJBigPhone. And both of them on the internal memory, so nothing on the microdrive.

reboot loop

sometimes when i soft reset my mogul it goes into a sort of reboot loop, it will reset before loading the today screen
i have an app that lets me boot into a "safe mode" with all today plugins, autorun items and nonessential services disabled, however this too reboots (it resets before even loading the today screen, it resets at the wm6 splash screen)
any ideas? i suspect its some app i have installed, just seems weird that it would happen before anything else loads

When this happens, simply remove the SD card and the loop will stop.
Also, it seems that this has stopped if you have the most current ROM.

heh, i never even thought about pulling the SD card *kicks self*
ive been hesitent to get the latest rom because i dont want to reinstall all my apps and tweaks again, especially when i know ill have to do it for rev.A anyway, lol
thanks for the help, nice to see another chicagoan here (im in the south subs)

Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?

Those programs aren't really the cause...there have been reports of users who don't have them installed that had the reboot loop anyways. I have actually had the reboot loop after a hard reset with no installed programs and reg tweaks...

ScottC said:
Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
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no and no
havent had the problem again yet, so i havent been able to try the SD thing, but it makes sense since its happenening before autorun apps and services load

jamesus said:
Those programs aren't really the cause...
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I didn't say they were the cause, I was just trying to run past some programs that are known to cause these symptoms.
To flatout say that they are not the cause is just wrong. There is a combination of HTC home and the Audio manager that'll force the unit into a reboot loop you can't get out of.

So no one has found a cause for this? How would this even be feasible if you have startup programs installed on the SD card? I also wanted to put all mail downloads and attachments on the SD, but if I have to pull it out, WM6 creates a Storage Card folder and my actual SD becomes Storage Card 2. It's a pain to have to delete and rename and such especially considering how often the device has to be reset...

Althought the cause is not exactly known, it has been speculated to be a ROM issue. Since flashing to the latest ROM, I have not one reboot loop, and this has been for a few months now.

Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?

sbddude said:
Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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This was present in the 2.08 ROM and was fixed with the 2.09 ROM.

I installed the latest DCD rom no programs installed and it just keeps on looping sometimes it stops for a hr or two and than starts looping again

I tried re-installing the original sprint rom but the same thing keeps on hapening

Are you running Spb Pocket Plus? There are known issues by the developers regarding memory, battery, power meters in the Pocket Plus Today Plugin. For more info, go to Spb Club:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/index.php

I tried everything, I put back the original Sprint rom didn't help. I went back to sprint they tried, coudlln't fix it, I got a new Phone out of the box.
They still have radio 1.32 and Rom 2.09 the blutooth works excellent on this.

I've had to return 2 phones in the last 2 months. My first phone would just freeze up for no reason. I could use the phone for a couple of hours then it freezed. Well the couple of hours soon became a few minutes than only for about a minute. If I took the battery out for awhile then I could turn it on again for a few minutes. It was as if the battery or cpu was getting hot and then freezing up.
The next phone worked good for 2 days and then all of a sudden it just died at the sprint logo. It boots up and shows the rom version with the sprint logo than the rom text disappears and its stuck at the sprint logo. It won't boot any further. It will stay on the sprint logo and the backlight will even go off after a few minutes. Strange... I am about to take this phone back tomorrow.
So far I've had nothing but bad experience with the durability of these phones. Once I get it set up properly it dies... :-(

i got a mogul aswell, nvr happened to me sorry can't help..

I just installed DCD2.3.2-Telus (several times) along with Titan_Radio_3.27.0. At first it worked wonderfully. The second I install anything to do with the GPS though, the system goes into a reboot loop. Actually it even started doing it last night without installing any navigation software.
- Google Maps
- TomTom 6
- Live Search
^^ Those are the 3 I've tried so far and all three have lead into reboot loops. I just flash the ROM again and everything is okay (for a while).
I've also tried running dcd_titan_2.1.0_telus and got the same problem once I installed one of the above Apps.
Does WM6 create dump files like in Windows so I can figure out what the hell is causing this? I want my GPS to work!!!!
After the reboot loops start, I tried removing the SD card as mentionned but it did nothing. Keep in mind I installed the programs to my internal memory.
Update: After flashing the ROM again to 2.3.2, the second I insert my SD card that also triggers the reboot loop.
Update #2: With the stock Rom, it seems to be working fine again. I think it's a problem with the GPS chip itself?

After spending the last few days trying to figure this out, I said the heck with it and contacted HTC to see what they have to say. Will post their reply once I get it. Hopefully there is a fix, because I hate this!! Now, I can't set my Spb Backup to run on auto, otherwise I wake up to the splash screen again....and again.....and again! I get so angry as I wait anxiuosly to see the result, today screen or verizon, and then *buzz*, I'm going crazy!

I had the same problem as you with my XV-6800 using the stock ROM and it always would go into reboot mode unless I ejected the sd card first. I could only put the card back in after it booted up. I also removed two programs from the device's main memory (Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and a task switcher).
I'm currently running SPB mobile shell and SPB Pocket Plus (for the task manager) and it's working fine now.
The only thing I can suggest is to remove one program at a time and reboot to see if maybe there is software conflict

touch diamond automatically resets itself?

So after installing Ultimate launcher, I tried to add the htc home plug in, which apparently you aren't supposed to do, and it send my diamond into a stage of continuous soft resets. Device would reset, get to the windows mobile 6.1 screen and then reset again over and over. So i hard reset, and everything was ok again. Then, I tried to install the htc start icon, which was working on my phone before, and it sent my phone into another cycle of resets! any idea why this is happening?

Funny you should say that, I bought another one because mine did that too, but it would HARD RESET after I started in install apps after I flashed a new ROM. It cant be the rom, so not sure what caused it. I left the battery out overnight, then flashed HARD SPL again (it was a different one), radio, and then a new rom, no probs as of yet.

yeah it's really wierd, I Had the htc start icon (same file) in internal storage working on my phone before this happened, and now when I try and reinstall it, this cycle happens. seems wierd after a full reset

Yeah I would install HD Manila and it would happen right away, but after I letit sit without the battery it hasnt done it, I read somewhere it has something to do with Volitile

not sure exactly what that means, but so far the htc icon was the only cab file that made my phone do this again, all the others installed fine. very wierd, it's like the file became corrupt even though it was perfectly fine a couple days ago

Need help with today screen failing to boot up

Okay, so yesterday i installed Skyfire and SPB Insight. It was allright, reboot was fine, but i didn't like the software so i uninstalled them.
After that, the phone works fine, then i reboot it and it just doesnt reboot. It passed the SE logo, Xperia splash, and the Windows Mobile Logo. It then stops while loading my today plugin. Nothing i can do about it.
I reset it through the reset button, and it only managed to load my phone 1 time out of 5 reboot. By now im thinking that it there were conflict with my plugin after that uninstall so i just Hard Reset my phone, and load the backup from SPB (only contact, task, email and messages, no program)
It then goes well, until the problem happened again
I had less software installed (didn't use a lot of it last time around) and all the software i have now was just fine when i had them installed in my phone a while ago. So whatever the problem was, it survived through hard reset. Unfortunately
I suspect this has something to do with today screen. All plugin that i have now (added one) are SPB Wireless monitor, SPB Backup, Beejive. I only use SPB wireless as my plugin, the rest is not.
So what should i do now? What might be the problem? Im on R1A, so i suspect it might be a bug, and im hanging on to wait till R3A comes out...or should i just flash custom ROM?
If anybody could shed some light on this, i would be very gratefull.
Regards
Sheen

give the battery the full " charge "

Have you checked |START|SETTINGS|PERSONAL|TODAY|ITEMS| to make sure your today screen items are checked?

@lakeg
Full charge?
Its not about the battery....the phone has no problem with hardware, it just stucks in that today screen unable to load the plugin
Any idea?

buzz83 said:
Have you checked |START|SETTINGS|PERSONAL|TODAY|ITEMS| to make sure your today screen items are checked?
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Yes, i did unchecked the Skyfire and SPB insight before i uninstalled them.
After Hard Reset i only have the Date, SPB Wireless, Messages, Calendar, and Lock device checked.
Also i might add, after i unsinstalled them my today screen was behaving weird. The today items that i use was swapping order, i tried to change them around again, soft reset, and the problem happened
Edit: Totally off topic, u live in Newcastle mate? i use to live there in Jesmond

mr_sheen said:
After Hard Reset i only have the Date, SPB Wireless, Messages, Calendar, and Lock device checked.
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If you are still having problems after a hard reset (|START|SETTINGS|SYSTEM|CLEAR STORAGE|) there might have been a change to your registry which is stuffing things up. Might be best to reflash your rom or flash a new one (Touch-It 7.1 is great!)
Edit: Totally off topic, u live in Newcastle mate? i use to live there in Jesmond
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Yep. I live in Stockton but work in Hamilton. Its a small world

buzz83 said:
If you are still having problems after a hard reset (|START|SETTINGS|SYSTEM|CLEAR STORAGE|) there might have been a change to your registry which is stuffing things up. Might be best to reflash your rom or flash a new one (Touch-It 7.1 is great!)
I did the hard reset via the hardware button method. Is there any different with the Clear Storage method?
And correct me if im wrong, but through hard reset isn't that means that we "reset" everything back to factory state? i mean the registry should just be reset back to default isn't it?
I'll hang on a bit while waiting for R3A, if it doesn't come out in 2 weeks or so i'll probably flash one of itje's ROM...but again, how about the change in registry that stuffed my phone up?
confusing
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Not sure if it makes any difference what so ever. I also don't know if registry changes revert back after a hard reset. It just seems odd that you are still having issues after a hard reset...
Anyway... nothing a new rom won't fix.
Goodluck with it

buzz83 said:
Not sure if it makes any difference what so ever. I also don't know if registry changes revert back after a hard reset. It just seems odd that you are still having issues after a hard reset...
Anyway... nothing a new rom won't fix.
Goodluck with it
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alrighty then, thanks for ur help then mate

just an update on my problem,
It seems that the culprit behind it all is my provider. Yes, u read it right...the provider. My Cellular provider has been having problem lately with their services. Dropped calls, late sms, and most annoying of all a slow/barely useable internet conection. The signal would shows that its fine, but in reality it doesn't. It just shows that i have signal but the network sometimes doesnt work.
This i think might be the problem why my phone stuck on today screen. It sometimes shows that i have no signal and then just freeze, or it sometimes shows that i have signal but freeze anyway. My solution to this is that i put my phone into flight mode every time i want to soft reset it, no problem so far....it goes away smoothly into the today screen.
i'll keep u guys updated if this method fails

Nope...it still doesnt work...
i hard reset my phone twice today because the problem still persist....its driving me nuts
Can anybody help? please....
All i can do now is wait patiently for R3A and hope it'll fix this problem....if not, im giving up on my X1...so frustrating...

Unable To Start HTC Sense...?

Hi all -
Earlier today I had my HD2 plugged in my computer's usb port (just to charge it). Shortly after I unplugged it, the phone screen kept going black. I had to keep pressing a button to get it to come back up, and everytime, about 2-3 seconds later, it would go blank again.
So I turned it off/on, and when it came on, it said "unable to start HTC sense, tape here to try again." I tried tapping, but nothing. I tried changing to windows theme then back to sense, and nothing.
Right now I have the Today screen switched to windows default. I would like to try to get Sense back without a hard reset (I just had to reset the phone a couple months ago). If I can't do that, at least temporarily I would like to solve the phone going blank issue, as it continues to happen on and off.
Thanks,
Luder

Try here..... good luck.. .
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594275

yeah... thanks for the link. I tried everything in the previous threads and none of it worked.
is there a way to back up everything to the computer or sd card? I figure I'll have to reinstall everything... which sucks, this phone has let me down twice now in about 3 months.

luderdune said:
yeah... thanks for the link. I tried everything in the previous threads and none of it worked.
is there a way to back up everything to the computer or sd card? I figure I'll have to reinstall everything... which sucks, this phone has let me down twice now in about 3 months.
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I've had yesterday exactly the "same" problem, but found out the problem to be CHT 1.8.5...
I unistalled CHT and sense started. Tried restoring a CHT settings from a backup and got back the same problem... So uninstalled CHT again, reinstalled it and reconfigured CHT manually and now all is working...
So my question is: do you have any mod installed?

thegios said:
I've had yesterday exactly the "same" problem, but found out the problem to be CHT 1.8.5...
I unistalled CHT and sense started. Tried restoring a CHT settings from a backup and got back the same problem... So uninstalled CHT again, reinstalled it and reconfigured CHT manually and now all is working...
So my question is: do you have any mod installed?
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Just uninstalled CHT and it Sense launched.. Will resinstall/config...
Thanks!

yesterday i had the same issue. i was going to do a hard reset. but i remembered that i deleted some mp3s from sd card and sense crashed when i wanted to open sense music player. after that sense didn't want to start. apparently sense player crashed. unfortunatelly i had player widget on one of CHT screens. that was the problem. i uninstalled CHT 1.8.5, deleted musi player cache from Application Data/HTC/AudioManager, installed CHT 1.8.5 again. sense is working again without problems. i think that clearing the cache would help without uninstalling CHT but i was drunk last night and i didn't think clearly ;]