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Can't get 8525 to work under Vista (32 bit)

Hi all, I have a frustrating problem with my Cingular 8525. I just formatted the comp and installed Vista Ultimate on it fresh. I downloaded WMDC but I can't get it to recognize my phone for the life of me. It keeps saying "connecting" forever and never does. I have done all sorts of installs, re-installs, hard resets, but I can't get it to detect at all! Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

NYKUNLV said:
Hi all, I have a frustrating problem with my Cingular 8525. I just formatted the comp and installed Vista Ultimate on it fresh. I downloaded WMDC but I can't get it to recognize my phone for the life of me. It keeps saying "connecting" forever and never does. I have done all sorts of installs, re-installs, hard resets, but I can't get it to detect at all! Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.
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first try to install the driver of your device.. go to device manager and look for unknown device at OTHERS..
good night and good luck

The driver is installed... it displays HTC USB Sync. I am getting frustrated . Stupid Vista.

USE the search function dude
Hermes vista config guide

Also make sure you dont have any firewalls active. I have had issues syncing my phone with my computer when using AVG's firewall. I simply disabled the firewall and it fixed my problems.

mrvanx said:
USE the search function dude
Hermes vista config guide
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I already tried that guide... still not working. Ill try disabling the firewall

go to settings->connections->usb to pc and then check Enable Advanced network functionality.
If that doesn't work remove/uninstall htc sync device, unplug device and plug in device to reinstall the htc sync device after you have set the usb to pc connection settings.

Also try using a different USB cable and plugging it into a different port, you never know, it could just be something defective.
But I'm putting my money on the firewall

I had a problem connecting my 8525 to my Vista machine. It would say connecting but it would never finish 'connecting'. It took a while but finally I figured out what was causing it. It was the 'recording' .wav files in the notes directory that were causing the issue. If you have any .wav files in your notes directory I'd suggest moving them to say your SD card or deleting them. That fixed the 'connecting' problem for me and since I did that it's been syncronizing fine ever since.

I tried everything listed in here at once.... something worked I should have done each step by step to pinpoint what exactly... but its working now. Thanks everyone!

NYKUNLV said:
I tried everything listed in here at once.... something worked I should have done each step by step to pinpoint what exactly... but its working now. Thanks everyone!
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Same for me. I had a load of problems getting the Mobile Device Center working with my HTC TyTN. First I was unable to even install the driver when I first connected my device. The "add new hardware" wizard always tried to connect to Windows Update and install an updated driver which then failed. The solution was to let it fail and manually install an older driver from the list using the icon in Device Manager. After that I could start Windows Update and download the latest update.
Then I had the same problems as you describe. When I started WMDC it just hung while displaying "Connecting". Looking in the task manager I noticed that the wmdc.exe process was consuming more and more memory, up until something like 250 MB, after which WMDC just showed "Error". Finally I got it to work. It is hard to pinpoint exactly what I did to fix it. I know that the "advanced network features" under USB in connection settings on the TyTN need to be ticked and the device showing as a Windows Mobile Device instead of HTC USB Sync.
Initially I did a hard reset of the TyTN. Further, I manually unistalled and reinstalled the driver in Device Manager a couple of times. I tried to reboot both the computer and the TyTN several times. Also, I did restart the "Windows Mobile-based device connectivity" service after plugging in the cable. Finally it just recognized my device and I could setup the partnership. Now I can sync over bluetooth too and skip the cable.
HTC phone support was not very helpful with this problem. "We will call you back". Yeah right.

Mobile cofiguration:
Dopod 838 Pro
LVSW 4/17/07 WM6
Hard SPL
PC configuration:
Windows Vista Business Edition
I encountered the same problem. Currently able to sync back by hard resetting my device. The USB to PC connection on settings does not appear to affect the sync problem.
I suspect that the problem arise when I originally sync with an XP machine.

What worked for me was to enable the advanced usb setting on the phone as mentioned...then while the phone is still plugged in, I removed everything associated with the phone from device manager on the pc. Once that was done, I unplugged the cable, waited a few seconds, and plugged it back in (with the advanced usb settings still checked.) Worked like a charm with WMDC.

I had problems with all sorts of "connectivity" in Vista, including connecting up my Trinity, and setting up my xbox 360 as a media extender.
As soon as I uninstalled MS One Care it all started working.

Frozen Shag control and lost WLAN in vista

Greetings every one
I have searched through the threads to try and find a solution to my problem and I have tried hard and soft restart on Snapvu, F2 and F3 but nothing works
I am having a little trouble with my Shift 9500 running Vista. All was well until about a week ago when I lost WLAN. When I attempted to turn on WLAN in the SHAG Control, SHAG control freezes and vista tells me that the "program is not responding". Sound is also muted.
I do, however, have a network symbol in the notification area that tells me it is not connected, when I ask vista to diagnose the problem it tells me to install a network card and the software. So, I reinstall the Marvell Wi-Fi driver, downloaded from the HTC website, but still no effect and the same thing keeps happening.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

I have the same problem now. Got original preinstalled Vista and even after Hard reset WLAN seems to be turned on in Control Center but the WLAN card is not even seen on hardware list. Got latest Marvell driver installed. It's rather not hardware problem as WLAN used to work before hard reset. Maybe it has to do with Microsoft hot fixes (have automatic updates enabled) but run without SP1. It's driving me crazy when trying to enable WLAN or Bluetooth it takes minutes like you. Any ideas plase? Thanks

aprach said:
I have the same problem now. Got original preinstalled Vista and even after Hard reset WLAN seems to be turned on in Control Center but the WLAN card is not even seen on hardware list. Got latest Marvell driver installed. It's rather not hardware problem as WLAN used to work before hard reset. Maybe it has to do with Microsoft hot fixes (have automatic updates enabled) but run without SP1. It's driving me crazy when trying to enable WLAN or Bluetooth it takes minutes like you. Any ideas plase? Thanks
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Well just an update, I did hard Vista reset and it helped. got fully functional wlan device, but still don't know what caused that. basically i see preinstalled vista here is damn unstable and never seen so many blue screens before :/

aprach said:
Well just an update, I did hard Vista reset and it helped. got fully functional wlan device, but still don't know what caused that. basically i see preinstalled vista here is damn unstable and never seen so many blue screens before :/
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I just posted a message earlier about issues I've been having with WiFi now resolved by changing advanced settings in the chip set. Maybe of some use? If you can't even see the Marvell maybe the only choice IS to do a hard restore, or maybe even trying the copying of the sdbus.sys from the XP page into system32/driver and trying again...that's probably what I would do.
I must admit, most of my issues with WiFI started when I updated to the new driver from HTC....downhill from there.

And note their instructions don't tell you in which order to install the WiFi driver - yet all the others are very specific. Maybe that's where it all goes horribly wrong? I did mine last for reference.

FOOFTR said:
And note their instructions don't tell you in which order to install the WiFi driver - yet all the others are very specific. Maybe that's where it all goes horribly wrong? I did mine last for reference.
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I'd suggest if everything works fine then no need to upgrade and take this risk... i simply ignored new htc drivers )

Hey Fooftr )
How are you? Managed to overwhelm this damn WLAN? I was happy too early. Even though my automatic MS updates were disabled after hard reset and I haven't even touched new htc drivers, my WLAN dissapeared again under Vista after some time.
Have installed latest Marvell sd8686.sys drivers from htc and the only result I got is 'Device manager' indicates WLAN card drivers where loaded but device cannot start (Code: 10). Did simple uninstall and even after reboot Vista finds no WLAN device at all. Did same with SD Host and here it's finem Vista finds it and reinstalls drivers. I'm still patient as really like this ****, I mean shift )
I've also replace sdbus.sys (81KB) file with mine laptop one 87KB but no difference.
The only networking actions I've been doing were related to installation of NDIS drivers together with the first WinMo sync. Maybe this is it? Don't know and wouldn't like to hard reset it again. Also XP is not an option until touchscreen and sdhc support is solved.
Guys any thoughts? Ideas? Does anyone have the same problem with vanishing WLAN device? Again it works after hard reset so it's not a hardware prob imo.
Cheers Shifters ;o)

Silence means either I'm alone with the problem or there are others but no solution found
I did some progress yesterday and GOT MY WLAN working fine now. I've been trying to play with HTC Marvell driver folders content as despite of WLAN setup file there are other toolkits attached by HTC. IT's not ideal and does enable WIFI fine but enables BT as well however BT device cannot find any other devices - later down below about BT.
PLS READ THIS FIRST BEFORE YOU TRY, it's just my observation and may be only my case.
If you guys have the same experience with WLAN device as I do please try to do following, it helped in my case and now have all WLAN and BT enabled and visible in Vista SP1 after sleep/restart, whatever.
1. My Vista config is as follows:
- SP1 installed (eng)
- all updates installed from Microsoft Update
- all HTC drivers installed except Vitakey which I hear on other threads is causing some headaches.
* although I have all above installed I don;t think it;s a prerequisite. You only need latest Marvell drivers from HTC website.
2. Pls note, although latest Marvell WLAN drivers are installed I used to see no devices.
3. I've described what is a behaviour when I install drivers, devices appear for a few seconds on the list and dissapear at the end of installation.
4. So I went to WLAN folder /Wifidrvpatch/TOOLKITS and found HTCMEDIA.INI file with number of commands.
5. At the end of the file you can find three commands related to ECTKit.exe and vcpj_TSinstall.exe
6. What I did yesterday what enabled my devices? Started to launch them to see what will happen.
I launched three application but I'm not sure which one helped, my devices started to apeparing on th list after ECTKit.exe with one of parameters added.
7. Launch Device Manager and expand Network adapters. Right click on desktop 'My computer' and choose 'Manage'. From the list then choose 'Device Manager'. IF you don't see NEtwork adapters on the list it's probably same as in my case. go to next step.
8. Click Start->Run->cmd
change your path (using 'cd' command) to be in marvellwifi/wifidrvpatch/toolkits/tool where ECTKit.exe is located.
Launch ECTKit.exe by typing ECTKit.exe /EnableAllDevice
after that my devices appeared on the list.
As I said I launched three execs this evening. First was vcpj_TSinstall.exe (then clicked on install) but haven't noticed any change, dvices were hidden and shift was not much busy with this exec. Second I launched ECTKit.exe /RestoreAllDevice (Still no devices on the list BUT I've noticed Computer Management tool (the one you've opened to see devices) has indicated under 'System Tools->'EVent Viewer' -> 'Windows Logs' -> 'Security' that one of sys files is not loaded due to hash issue. IT's called CCDEVIO.sys and used to fail EVERYTIME when I tried to install MArvell drivers before (have checked logs history).
As the third command launched was ECTKit.exe /EnableAllDevice and this one helped.
What I suspect in my case CCDEVIO.sys may be causing problems but not sure. For example this sys file is trying to be loaded when I open WindowsMediaPlayer and fails as well so I'm not sure. Anyway that's the only misbehaviour I've noticed related to drivers installation.
Now about BT. It's also enabled. Got access to all functions, etc but there are two problems with BT.
1. My shift cannot find any other BT devices but can be found by my HTC Kaiser with no problems (still with limited number of services shared).
2. BT blue LED under the display flashes all the time now ) Well even if I disable BT Radio device and other BT related it does still blinks ) Well I don;t care anyway at least got it visible and can play further to force it to work. It';s still better than not having it at all.
LAst but not least this trick has not helped to frozen Shift Control Center tool. It freezes if I want to Turn ON/OFF WIFI/BT for coupel of minutes, then indicated device is ON or OFF, I can close it but it does not communicate with devices at all - meaning if I turn my WLAN ON thru control center it's not turning ON. Need to go to Network Adapters window under NEtwork Sharing Center and simply enable it. It's till fine as shagctrl sucks anyway, no brightness can be adjusted and when I try to access Settings, after 10-20 seconds got message 'Get EC firmware version failed' and settings opens (this error was observed even after my Vist agot hard reset some time ago and even after I installed latest EC drivers from HTC site)...
I'm not sure how HTC tests their drivers in testing environment but they probably outsource it to well known business oriented countries )
Sorry for long story but maybe it will help some of you. I'm damn happy got my WIFI working as do not need BT for now

aprach said:
Silence means either I'm alone with the problem or there are others but no solution found
I did some progress yesterday and GOT MY WLAN working fine now. I've been trying to play with HTC Marvell driver folders content as despite of WLAN setup file there are other toolkits attached by HTC. IT's not ideal and does enable WIFI fine but enables BT as well however BT device cannot find any other devices - later down below about BT.
PLS READ THIS FIRST BEFORE YOU TRY, it's just my observation and may be only my case.
If you guys have the same experience with WLAN device as I do please try to do following, it helped in my case and now have all WLAN and BT enabled and visible in Vista SP1 after sleep/restart, whatever.
1. My Vista config is as follows:
- SP1 installed (eng)
- all updates installed from Microsoft Update
- all HTC drivers installed except Vitakey which I hear on other threads is causing some headaches.
* although I have all above installed I don;t think it;s a prerequisite. You only need latest Marvell drivers from HTC website.
2. Pls note, although latest Marvell WLAN drivers are installed I used to see no devices.
3. I've described what is a behaviour when I install drivers, devices appear for a few seconds on the list and dissapear at the end of installation.
4. So I went to WLAN folder /Wifidrvpatch/TOOLKITS and found HTCMEDIA.INI file with number of commands.
5. At the end of the file you can find three commands related to ECTKit.exe and vcpj_TSinstall.exe
6. What I did yesterday what enabled my devices? Started to launch them to see what will happen.
I launched three application but I'm not sure which one helped, my devices started to apeparing on th list after ECTKit.exe with one of parameters added.
7. Launch Device Manager and expand Network adapters. Right click on desktop 'My computer' and choose 'Manage'. From the list then choose 'Device Manager'. IF you don't see NEtwork adapters on the list it's probably same as in my case. go to next step.
8. Click Start->Run->cmd
change your path (using 'cd' command) to be in marvellwifi/wifidrvpatch/toolkits/tool where ECTKit.exe is located.
Launch ECTKit.exe by typing ECTKit.exe /EnableAllDevice
after that my devices appeared on the list.
As I said I launched three execs this evening. First was vcpj_TSinstall.exe (then clicked on install) but haven't noticed any change, dvices were hidden and shift was not much busy with this exec. Second I launched ECTKit.exe /RestoreAllDevice (Still no devices on the list BUT I've noticed Computer Management tool (the one you've opened to see devices) has indicated under 'System Tools->'EVent Viewer' -> 'Windows Logs' -> 'Security' that one of sys files is not loaded due to hash issue. IT's called CCDEVIO.sys and used to fail EVERYTIME when I tried to install MArvell drivers before (have checked logs history).
As the third command launched was ECTKit.exe /EnableAllDevice and this one helped.
What I suspect in my case CCDEVIO.sys may be causing problems but not sure. For example this sys file is trying to be loaded when I open WindowsMediaPlayer and fails as well so I'm not sure. Anyway that's the only misbehaviour I've noticed related to drivers installation.
Now about BT. It's also enabled. Got access to all functions, etc but there are two problems with BT.
1. My shift cannot find any other BT devices but can be found by my HTC Kaiser with no problems (still with limited number of services shared).
2. BT blue LED under the display flashes all the time now ) Well even if I disable BT Radio device and other BT related it does still blinks ) Well I don;t care anyway at least got it visible and can play further to force it to work. It';s still better than not having it at all.
LAst but not least this trick has not helped to frozen Shift Control Center tool. It freezes if I want to Turn ON/OFF WIFI/BT for coupel of minutes, then indicated device is ON or OFF, I can close it but it does not communicate with devices at all - meaning if I turn my WLAN ON thru control center it's not turning ON. Need to go to Network Adapters window under NEtwork Sharing Center and simply enable it. It's till fine as shagctrl sucks anyway, no brightness can be adjusted and when I try to access Settings, after 10-20 seconds got message 'Get EC firmware version failed' and settings opens (this error was observed even after my Vist agot hard reset some time ago and even after I installed latest EC drivers from HTC site)...
I'm not sure how HTC tests their drivers in testing environment but they probably outsource it to well known business oriented countries )
Sorry for long story but maybe it will help some of you. I'm damn happy got my WIFI working as do not need BT for now
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Hello,
I have a similar issue withe Marvell Wifi adapter.
I restored the system to the manufacturer settings pressing F3 while booting and the problem remains:
If the Shift is powered off or hybernated more than 30 minutes and then powered on, then Wifi works well, the adapter appears in the device manager, and I can power it on or off with HTC comunication administrator (the progran which opens when you push the upper right button).
If, whith Wifi working, I suspend, reboot or power off the shift for less than 30 minutes, the Marvel wifi adaptor dissapears from the device manager, Wifi doesn't work and I can't enable or disable it from the HTC comunication administrator.
I have restored the system to manufacturer settings pressing the F3 button while booting for three times without success.
Anybody knows how to fix that problem or may I send the unit to the SAT?
Thank you very much

henryfabu said:
Hello,
I have a similar issue withe Marvell Wifi adapter.
I restored the system to the manufacturer settings pressing F3 while booting and the problem remains:
If the Shift is powered off or hybernated more than 30 minutes and then powered on, then Wifi works well, the adapter appears in the device manager, and I can power it on or off with HTC comunication administrator (the progran which opens when you push the upper right button).
If, whith Wifi working, I suspend, reboot or power off the shift for less than 30 minutes, the Marvel wifi adaptor dissapears from the device manager, Wifi doesn't work and I can't enable or disable it from the HTC comunication administrator.
I have restored the system to manufacturer settings pressing the F3 button while booting for three times without success.
Anybody knows how to fix that problem or may I send the unit to the SAT?
Thank you very much
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Hey, seems it's very unstable. Can you imagine I was to early happy with my findings :/ My WIFI appears and dissapears randomly but the behaviour is a bit different from yours. Mine is available even right after reboot (pess than 30 mins). What I do to solve it is when after turning on there is no device on the list I simply launch drivers installation and do not wait till the end. When I see BT/WIFI devices in Computer Management successfully identified (installation still runs) I simply kill the installer thru "Task Manager" without waiting for completion (as every time after completion devices again dissapear). With that I have a control over WIFI. It's a bit annoying but I can rely on that everytime so far.
Keep observing my shift behaviour what potentialy can impact that and even with WinMo synced and 3G working on WinMo side WIFI is still available. Last time it dissapeared after battery removal for 5 minutes max (to insert new SIM card).
BTW, once you have your BT available can you find external devices using BT built-in software? I cannot...
Even with that I damn like the SHIFT and find it very useful.
Will stay in touch

No WiFi on my Shift?

My HTC Shift doesn't seem to have a Wi-Fi connection. I can't even see it in Device Manager.
Have I got a model without integrated Wi-Fi? Or is there a way to install it? Drivers don't work. It's on its original Vista installation from scratch and its the first time the device has been booted since I purchased it.
EDIT: OK, found it by enabling it from the connection manager icon in the tray!

WiFi Solved ....for now

Those of you having similar issues as I have been describing recently I have (I hope) got a solution to you (I'm now using full XP tablet). In my advanced tab under device manager (Marvell) I changed power save mode from default to "IEEE 802.11 etc" and Radio Off to enable....everything else per how the driver loads it...almost the second I changed the Power Save mode it picked up all the local networks.
Good luck guys and gal;s....some better XP Tab instructions coming soon I hope. I could never use Vista again!

Ah, spoke too soon...it's stopped working again....damned thing....suspect it is the chip, or antenna or somehtign else. XP says it is still working 100% but it can't see any networks.
Now looking for an SD card WiFi that works in Windows (almost all are only WinMo)....

Wifi Problem

My shift cannot view any wireless network. I tried different OS - windows 7, windows XP but nothing. Even after a restore to factory settings with Fn+F3 and windows Vista with all drivers right installed, the problem insists.
When I go to the "device manager" it shows that Marvell sd8686 driver is right installed and the green light of wireless is working. I tried everything , even taking out the battery - no good.
This is 100% not a wifi-router problem because any other PC is capable of detecting my wireless network.
Any help appreciated ! Thanks

apoparis said:
My shift cannot view any wireless network. I tried different OS - windows 7, windows XP but nothing. Even after a restore to factory settings with Fn+F3 and windows Vista with all drivers right installed, the problem insists.
When I go to the "device manager" it shows that Marvell sd8686 driver is right installed and the green light of wireless is working. I tried everything , even taking out the battery - no good.
This is 100% not a wifi-router problem because any other PC is capable of detecting my wireless network.
Any help appreciated ! Thanks
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I fear the shift has a defectosity with the Wifi card. Mine has the same problem since last winter, and I couldn't find any way around. As sending it back will cost me an amazing 100$ thanks to HTC policy for north america, I just passed on this one and put my shift on retreat.
If anybody solves this without relying to sending it back, I'm all hears

Check your router settings
I had a similar problem where it would not detect my home wifi network. My router is capable of Wireless N, B, and G. N is no problem, but mixing B & G (the router can support both modes) creates issues. Try setting your router to B or G mode only, (and configure the shift to be the same - through the WiFi Driver settings), and hopefully that will work.

Thaihugo you were right. This is a hardware problem. I found a cheaper solution. A usb wifi adapter. Now I can detect and connect to all networks.